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A20163 An ansvvere to one question Wherevpon dependet[h] the resolution of all controuersies, doubts, and questions, which are, or can be made about matters of faith[.] Wherefore it is dilige[n]tly, & carefully reade, and duely pondered, after prayer made to God for the light of his grace, without which it cannot be rightly vnderstood in such sort as is fit. Permissu superiorum. 1628 (1628) STC 660; ESTC S115860 8,090 24

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as appeareth by the Texts afore-cited Therefore the Authority of Doctours and Pastours of the Visible Church in all ages is Infallible in all points with vnanime consent or by their full Aucthoritie they teach to be deuine Truth whether the poynt be great or littell Fundamentall or not Fundamentall or whether they bring proofe for that they teach out of Scripture or not For in the afoure said text there is no such Limitation of great or little Fundamentall or not Fundamentall points of Truth Nor any such reflrictiue Condition of proouing what they teach out of Scripture Seendly I prooue the same by Sentences of ancient Fathers First S. Irenaeus S. Iren. l. 3. cap. 4. who liued in the next age to the Apostles sayth We ought not to seeke Truth from others which we may easily receaue from the Church Sith the Apostles haue layd vp in it as in a rich tresury or storehouse most fully those things which are of Truth c. And a litle after to shew that this is not meant with onely Limitatiō of Fundamentall points he addeth saying and if controuersie arise euen about some small questiōs should we not haue recourse to the most ancient Church in which the Apostles did Cōuerse and take from them what is certaine and cleare in this question And further to shew that it is not necessary that this Church must prooue euery thing she doth teach out of Scripture he presently addeth What if the Apostles had left vs no Scripture ought wee not to haue followed the Order of Tradition 2. Tert. lib. de Praesiript Tereullian saith The order of things doth require that this Question should first be propounded to whome doth faith belonge as if he should say which is the true Church Whose are the Scriptures from whome by whome when and to whome was the Discipline deliuered by which we are made Christians for where the trueth of Christian Discipline and Faith shall appeare to be there shal be the Trueth of Scriptures and expositions and all Christian Traditions By which we may learne that although to one who doth beleeue Scriptures we may out of them prooue which is the true Church yet to proceed according to right order of things the true ancient alwaies Visible continued Church is to be found first and from the true Church we must finde which be true Scriptures which true Expositions and all true Christian Traditions 3. S. Cyprian saith S. Cyprian lib. 1. c. 3. That from no other roote do Herisies and Schismes springe but from this that men doe not obey the Priest of God neither do consider that in the Church there is on Priest and one Iudge for the time in steed of Christ 4. S. Basill saith S. Basil lib. de Spiritu sancto c. 27. The Doctrines which are in the Church now proposed and Preached we haue partly from the written Doctrine partly from the Traditions of the Apostles brought vnto vs in mistery both which are of like force to piety 5. S. Chrsyost vpō these words 2. Thess 4.14 S. Crysostome vpon those wordes hold the traditions c. saith Hence it is euedent that the Apostles did not Deliuer all in writing but many thinges without writing and that the one and the other are a like worthy of Credit 6. S. August lib. contra epistolam fun damenti cap. 5. S. Augustine attributeth so much to the Authority of the Church that he saith I would not beleeue the Gospell it selfe if the Authority of the Church did not induce me And speaking of a poynt which could not be prooued out of Scripture Lib. 1. cōtra Crescon c. 32. or 33. he saith The Truth of Scripture is holden by vs when we do that which pleaseth the whole Church which the Authority of the same Scriptures doth cōmēd because holy scripture cannot deceiuē whosoeuer is afraid to be deceiued with the obscurity of this Question Let him aske the Iudgment of the Church which without all ambiguity the holy Scripture doth Demonstrate Epist 118. c. 1. And in his Epistle he affirmeth That it is most insolent madnes to dispute against that which the Church doth vniuersally practize See Saint Augustine de vtilitate credendi cap. 10. vsque adsinem libri S. Vincētius Lirinensis in his goulden treatise against he resie c. 1. Lastly S. Vincentius Lirinensis liuing neere to S Augustines time first aduiseth as a Rule to Discerne and to preserue vs from heresy to Ioyne the authority of the Catholick Church her Tradition and Interpretation to the written Word of God in regard the height of Scripture is such as euery man doth not take it in one and the same sense but so many sensuall men so many sensuall senses of it may be made And he assureth that this Church of Christ is so diligent and wary a keeper of Doctrine Deliuered as a sacred Depositunn vnto her that nihil in his permut at nihil minuit nihil addit she neuer chaungeth any thing to wit by misinterpretation of the sense and meaninge of any point of Faith nor diminisheth any thing to wit by Denying what was once held for a point of Faith nor addeth anie thing to witt by affirming any thing to be a Deuine Truth which was no at first for such Deliuered by Christ his Apostles And a little after he sheweth that although it may seeme that the Church in the Decrees of her Coūsels may haue made some addition or change yet indeede the addition or change is not in substance or in sense but only being excited by nouell Heretiques she setteth downe in writinge what from our Elders shee receiued by only Traditiō and the better to expresse in words what was infoulded in ancient Beleife she somtymes giueth to an old article not a new sense but a new name as for example the Conncell of Nice added the word Consubstansttiall and the Lateran Councell the word Transubstantiation with out any mutation of the Sense of the Article 3 I prooue the same Verity by these ensuing plaine reasons The first Reason If the Authority of the Church be not Infallible but as the Authority of other men onely fallible and such as may erre and hath erred in any one point proposed as a deuine Truth by Vnanimous Consent or ful authority of it It will follow that we neuer haue nor can haue according to the ordinary Course of Gods prouidence anie Infallible certainty of any other Point of our Faith proposed by the Vnanimous Consent or full Authority of the same Church For if it can erre and hath erred in any ponit so Deliured we may iustly feare and haue no assured ground to assure that she teacheth Infallible Truth in any fo the rest As S. Augustin sayth of holy Scrirture if we once admit any vntruth to be in any one parte of it we shall thereby take away all infallible authority and credit from it in all the rest But if we neyther