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of_o bind_v &_o lose_v give_v by_o christ_n himself_o to_o the_o pastor_n of_o his_o church_n in_o most_o general_a and_o ample_a manner_n 16._o mat._n 16._o and_o to_o this_o i_o add_v that_o which_o sir_n humphrey_n for_o his_o own_o advantage_n omit_v in_o the_o citation_n of_o both_o durand_n &_o antoninus_n to_o wit_n that_o they_o both_o allege_v the_o testimony_n of_o s._n gregory_n for_o the_o use_n &_o actual_a grant_n of_o indulgence_n 3._o gregorius_n tamen_fw-la loquor_fw-la quâ—_n etiam_fw-la indulgentias_fw-la româ—_n iustituit_fw-la instationibus_fw-la ut_fw-la dicitur_fw-la durand_n id_fw-la 4._o send_v d._n 20._o q._n 3._o which_o pope_n say_v they_o be_v report_v to_o have_v institute_v the_o roman_a station_n which_o word_n of_o durand_n &_o the_o like_a of_o s._n antoninus_n if_o the_o knight_n have_v rehearse_v as_o he_o ought_v to_o have_v do_v according_a to_o the_o law_n of_o plain_a deal_n the_o use_n of_o indulgence_n will_v have_v appear_v not_o to_o be_v 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be_v that_o our_o irreligious_a adversary_n intend_v chief_o to_o diminish_v in_o this_o occasion_n it_o be_v most_o apparent_a that_o s._n augustin_n strong_o maintain_v it_o in_o his_o second_o of_o baptism_n cap._n 1._o say_v quis_fw-la nesciat_fw-la illum_fw-la apostolatus_fw-la petri_n principatum_fw-la cuilibet_fw-la episcopatui_fw-la esse_fw-la praeferendum_fw-la that_o be_v who_o can_v be_v ignorant_a that_o principality_n or_o soveraintie_n of_o peter_n apostolate_a be_v to_o be_v prefer_v before_o any_o episcopate_n or_o bishopric_n and_o in_o his_o 15._o sermon_n of_o the_o saint_n he_o speak_v yet_o more_o plain_a to_o this_o purpose_n affirm_v that_o our_o saviour_n do_v nominate_v s._n peter_n for_o the_o foundation_n of_o the_o church_n &_o ideo_fw-la digne_fw-fr fundamentum_fw-la hoc_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la colit_fw-la supra_fw-la quod_fw-la ecclesiastici_fw-la officij_fw-la altitudo_fw-la consurgit_fw-la and_o therefore_o say_v s._n augustin_n the_o church_n deserve_o honour_v this_o
the_o knight_n calumnious_a proceed_n against_o he_o 99_o vos_fw-fr enim_fw-la sicut_fw-la a_o luthero_n didicistis_fw-la scripturas_fw-la sanctas_fw-la faciles_fw-la ad_fw-la intelligendum_fw-la &_o interpretandum_fw-la esse_fw-la putatis_fw-la &_o sic_fw-la eas_fw-la hactenus_fw-la vestro_fw-la sensis_fw-la intellexistis_fw-la &_o interpretati_fw-la estis_fw-la at_o si_fw-la hanc_fw-la solam_fw-la regulam_fw-la fidei_fw-la christus_fw-la in_o ecclesia_fw-la reliquisset_fw-la quid_fw-la aliud_fw-la quam_fw-la gladium_fw-la delphicum_fw-la haberemê°_n etc._n etc._n quomodo_fw-la interpretari_fw-la scripturas_fw-la ad_fw-la libidinem_fw-la proprij_fw-la sensus_fw-la sit_fw-la ut_fw-la habere_fw-la delphicum_fw-la gladium_fw-la contr_n sad._n p._n 99_o lessius_fw-la be_v ill_a cite_v for_o in_o his_o 11._o reason_n he_o have_v none_o of_o those_o word_n quote_v by_o sir_n humphrey_n yet_o in_o his_o table_n he_o have_v those_o scriptura_fw-la quâ_fw-la ratione_fw-la nasus_fw-la cereus_fw-la regula_fw-la lesbia_fw-la etc._n etc._n nuncupetur_fw-la cite_v for_o this_o his_o own_o page_n 130._o of_o his_o consult_v where_o yet_o he_o have_v not_o those_o formal_a word_n which_o sir_n humphrey_n cite_v but_o only_o some_o other_o to_o that_o sense_n yet_o the_o truth_n be_v he_o do_v not_o apply_v either_o the_o word_n or_o the_o sense_n to_o the_o romanist_n but_o to_o the_o novelist_n say_v of_o they_o and_o their_o interpretation_n of_o scripture_n by_o their_o private_a spirit_n scripturam_fw-la autem_fw-la cuique_fw-la pro_fw-la svo_fw-la captu_fw-la &_o iudicio_fw-la intelligit_fw-la unde_fw-la cum_fw-la se_fw-la putant_fw-la scripturam_fw-la habere_fw-la regulam_fw-la credendi_fw-la loco_fw-la scripturae_fw-la habent_fw-la imaginationem_fw-la propriam_fw-la etc._n etc._n so_o that_o here_o we_o find_v no_o blasphemy_n in_o lessius_fw-la but_o imposture_n in_o sir_n humphrey_n it_o be_v true_a lessius_fw-la in_o his_o disputation_n of_o antichrist_n have_v those_o formal_a word_n cite_v by_o sir_n humphrey_n in_o his_o page_n of_o the_o same_o number_n where_o he_o say_v the_o scripture_n be_v call_v by_o catholic_n a_o nose_n of_o wax_n &_o a_o lesbious_a rule_n etc._n etc._n but_o he_o present_o explicate_v in_o what_o sense_n to_o wit_n when_o it_o be_v take_v for_o the_o bare_a word_n or_o letter_n only_o seclude_v the_o sense_n of_o the_o church_n &_o the_o interpretation_n of_o father_n as_o say_v he_o it_o be_v take_v by_o heretic_n so_o that_o it_o be_v plain_a that_o lessius_fw-la do_v not_o say_v that_o catholic_n call_v the_o true_a scripture_n together_o with_o the_o true_a sense_n a_o nose_n of_o wax_n but_o only_o the_o naked_a text_n &_o as_o it_o be_v abuse_v by_o corrupter_n 131._o lessius_fw-la demonstr_n 15._o p._n 131._o an_fw-mi non_fw-la regula_fw-la illis_fw-la lesbian_n quam_fw-la omnibus_fw-la suis_fw-la imaginationibus_fw-la quantumuis_fw-la absurdis_fw-la accommodant_fw-la &_o seruire_fw-la faciunt_fw-la qui_fw-la per_fw-la antichristum_n designari_fw-la volunt_fw-la non_fw-la unum_fw-la hominem_fw-la sed_fw-la plurimorum_fw-la seriem_fw-la etc._n etc._n and_o present_o apud_fw-la catholicos_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la regula_fw-la lesbian_n quia_fw-la est_fw-la animata_fw-la vero_fw-la nimirum_fw-la sensu_fw-la qui_fw-la contrarijs_fw-la placitis_fw-la aptari_fw-la nequit_fw-la among_o catholic_n say_v lessius_fw-la the_o scripture_n be_v not_o a_o lesbie_n rule_n because_o it_o be_v animate_v with_o true_a sense_n which_o can_v be_v apply_v to_o contrary_a opinion_n by_o which_o word_n it_o be_v evident_a that_o this_o author_n be_v mighty_o wrong_v be_v he_o have_v the_o very_a negative_a proposition_n to_o that_o be_v impose_v upon_o he_o in_o the_o citation_n of_o pighius_fw-la sir_n humphrey_n ought_v to_o have_v continue_v his_o rehearsal_n from_o the_o begin_n of_o his_o word_n to_o the_o end_n of_o the_o period_n of_o the_o author_n whole_a passage_n &_o then_o it_o will_v 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tongue_n which_o be_v the_o only_a point_n in_o controversy_n the_o reformer_n defend_v touth_n &_o nail_v the_o affirmative_a &_o the_o romanist_n the_o negative_a nay_o bellarmin_n be_v so_o far_o from_o confess_v the_o reformer_n doctrine_n in_o this_o particular_a that_o he_o expresselie_o affirm_v in_o the_o same_o place_n that_o the_o divine_a office_n in_o those_o primative_a time_n be_v celebrate_v in_o greek_a which_o all_o the_o people_n do_v not_o understand_v &_o yet_o clear_v this_o whole_a question_n so_o far_o that_o if_o sir_n humphrey_n have_v use_v any_o spark_n of_o sincerity_n in_o cite_v beauty_n word_n home_n &_o true_o they_o will_v have_v take_v away_o all_o doubt_n concern_v his_o meaning_n whereas_o by_o leave_v out_o deceitfullie_o the_o latter_a part_n of_o his_o clause_n he_o cause_v in_o his_o reader_n a_o previdicate_a opinion_n of_o the_o true_a sense_n touch_v which_o and_o the_o faithless_a proceed_n of_o our_o adversary_n about_o the_o same_o the_o 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he_o have_v utter_v &_o defend_v obstinate_o in_o my_o opinion_n he_o have_v deserve_v the_o fygot_v almost_o as_o well_o as_o his_o adversary_n martin_n but_o i_o persuade_v myself_o the_o discretion_n of_o prieras_n be_v great_a than_o so_o and_o in_o the_o same_o manner_n i_o vehementlie_o suspect_v our_o adversary_n have_v use_v some_o of_o his_o gipsian_a sleight_n in_o the_o citation_n of_o the_o place_n he_o quote_v but_o yet_o be_v meaning_n be_v only_o that_o indulgence_n that_o be_v the_o present_a use_n of_o they_o be_v not_o manifest_o declare_v unto_o we_o by_o scripture_n &_o father_n as_o his_o word_n cite_v here_o in_o the_o margin_n insinuate_v absolute_o grant_v both_o the_o power_n &_o practice_v of_o they_o 1._o indulgentia_fw-la nobis_fw-la per_fw-la scripturam_fw-la minime_fw-la innotuit_fw-la licet_fw-la inducatur_fw-la illud_fw-la 2._o cor._n 2._o si_fw-mi quid_fw-la donavi_fw-la vobis_fw-la sed_fw-la nec_fw-la per_fw-la dicta_fw-la antiquorun_v doctorum_fw-la 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authority_n of_o scripture_n of_o all_o this_o i_o say_v i_o need_v to_o make_v no_o further_o discussion_n in_o regard_n the_o apparent_a falsity_n of_o it_o do_v sufficient_o confute_v itself_o &_o show_n that_o it_o proceed_v rather_o from_o a_o man_n malicious_o affect_v &_o ignorant_a of_o the_o state_n of_o the_o question_n &_o more_o dispose_v to_o caville_v then_o careful_a to_o attain_v to_o the_o truth_n of_o the_o doctrine_n for_o suppose_v the_o abuse_n be_v never_o so_o true_a which_o as_o in_o all_o other_o thing_n so_o in_o this_o i_o confess_v there_o have_v be_v some_o especial_o in_o the_o questor_n or_o inferior_a administrator_n of_o indulgence_n &_o may_v be_v more_o nevertheless_o these_o abuse_n of_o particular_a man_n do_v not_o impeach_v the_o power_n &_o authority_n &_o lawful_a use_n of_o the_o same_o which_o only_o be_v that_o which_o my_o adversary_n &_o i_o have_v now_o in_o question_n and_o so_o now_o for_o conclusion_n of_o this_o matter_n we_o may_v 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