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A10967	An historical dialogue touching antichrist and poperie, drawen and published for the common benefit and comfort of our church in these dangerous daies, & against the desperate attemptes of the vowed aduersaries of Iesus Christ, his gospell, and this florishing state. by Thomas Rogers. Allowed by auctoritie.	Rogers, Thomas, d. 1616.	1589 (1589)	STC 21237; ESTC S112075	54,518	126

especially for that soueraigne auctoritie hee had both to teach and reueale the wil of God cōcerning the redemption of man T. What was his auctoritie Z. Such as we are both enioined and that by a voice from the excellent glorie to heare him threatned to answere for the same if we despice his doctrine T. What were his giftes Z. Most diuine For he was the brightnes of the glorie and th'ingraued forme of God ful of grace and truth yea so full that all the fulnes of the Godhead dwelleth bodilie in him T. What was his doctrine Z. As were his qualities such was his doctrine euen most heauenlie For all thinges which hee hath heard from his Father hath he made knowen vnto vs and they are committed vnto writing that we might beleeue and that through beleeuing we might haue life through his name T. Now tell mee how Christ is diuested of this office and the Pope of Rome made the great Prophet of the Church of God Z. I haue mentioned nothing from the holie Scriptures touching either th'auctoritie or the giftes or the doctrine of Christ but the Pope is made to match that I say not to surpasse our Sauiour Christ in al and euerie of these respectes and therefore as great for power as Soueraigne for giftes as diuine for doctrine as Christ him-selfe T. I would see that confirmed Z. Who knoweth not that God is more pleased in his sonne Christ than they are delighted in their Father the Pope This is my beloued sonne heare him saith God And of the Pope this is our welbeloued Father in whom wee are delighted hear him say the papistes For whatsoeuer hee determineth is a knowen truth and that which he condemneth is a knowen error His lawes euen all of them are to be taken as confirmed by the mouth euen of God himselfe And whatsoeuer hee saith it is truth and he cannot erre Is not this to make the Pope of equall auctoritie with Iesus Christ T. To denie that is euen to gain-say an open truth Z. Moreouer that which latelie I alleaged though to an other purpose doth fitlie proue also that he is takē for giftes diuine partes to be as singular as our Sauiour Christ when they say of him an sainct Iohn said of Christ that of his fulnes wee do all receaue And that his doctrine is made equiualent with the Gospel of Iesus Christ it appeareth manie waies T. Shew that thing Z. He that will reade the bookes of Sentences especially the workes of Gabriel Biel shal finde that they make four sortes or degrees of the law of God T. What are they Z. The first degree be the lawes reuealed immediatlie from God him-selfe be written in the holie Bible especiallie in the Gospels penned through the wil of Christ for our better attainment of euerlasting happines T. What heare I Zelotes Is the word of God the first degree of Gods law be there moe lawes which are to be nombred among the lawes of God besides the holy Scriptures And among those bookes of the sacred Scriptures are the workes of the Euangelistes to be reputed but for lawes Z. That is their iudgement T. Proceede then and tel me what be the other lawes of God besides the holie Scriptures Z. The next are the Phansies and dreames either taken by tradition from man to man or deriued from the Scriptures by their false corrupt erronious pharisaical interpreting of them such are most of the Articles of the popish Creede sometimes drawen from the written word I graunt but rarelie agreeing with the sense of the holy ghost to th'analogie of the catholique faith T. And be the Articles of their faith lawes and their expositions to be accompted for the verie lawes of God Z. It is their opinion T. What bee their other lawes which they say are the verie lawes euen of God himselfe Z. They are of two sortes of one are the Canon lawes the Decretals Sixtes Clementines Extrauagantes and the like of thother sort be the Reuelations false Religions and Rules as of S. Bridget S. Frācis S. Dominick and that lame Spaniard Layola the founder of the Iesuitical viperous generation either penned or auctorized and made currant by the Popes of Rome T. And are men bound to take these and euerie of them euen as the verie lawes of Iesus Christ himselfe Z. Euen as the lawes of Christ. And how in cōparison of the Pope his lawes traditions ordinances and expositions they thinke of the holie Scripture it would carefullie be obserued T. What thinke they of the holie Scriptures Z. He was a Popish Bishop that sometime demaunded of a reuerend Father and afterward a blessed Martyr of Iesus Christ whether the people might not bee ordered without the holie Scriptures And he was à Cardinal of Rome that writ how there might be a Church without the Scriptures And another of that stampe whose name I now remember not said plainlie it had gone better with the Church had there bin no Scripture at all T. These are particular men you shew not the cōmon iudgement of the Romish church Z. It is written of the Circumcellian heretikes that they not onelie exercised most violent persecutions vpon the bodies of Sainctes but also burned to ashes in the fire euen the most holie bookes of God which wee call the Scriptures T. So did Herod afore them and the wicked Israelites afore them also but what of that Z. Their burning of those bookes notified vnto the world in what price and estimacion they had the most pretious word of God T. Yet this is nothing to the Papistes of whom our speech is Z. Yes verie much For they doing the same thing that is burning those bookes do shew thereby in what reuerend accompt they haue the holie word God T. Haue they burned the Scriptures of God as did the Circumcellian heretikes and other impes of Satan Z. Not onlie the Scriptures they haue burned but also in as barberous maner as euer was heard haue they burned into ashes the bodies of men onely for hauing I saie not the whole Bible but euen a litle fragment of the same euen the Lordes praier in the English tong and not allowing the same idolatrouslie to bee said vnto dead Sainctes And how that good Deane of Paules in Lōdon D. Colet should haue bin condemned for an heritike and burned it is notoriouslie wel knowen T. But wherfore Z. For translating the Pater Noster forsooth into English And againe how they haue cited tossed threatned and troubled of good people some for hauing the Newe Testament some the Gospel after S. Mathew some Th'actes of the Apostles some Th'epistles of S. Paul some the Reuelatiō of Sainct Iohn yea some for learning or teaching euen the verie groundes of all true Religion as namely the ten Commaundements the Creed the Lords praier some but for saying

in English Blessed bee they that heare the word of God and keepe it it is worthilie recorded and to th'euerlasting shame and reproch of Poperie to be remembred T. But the daies are now changed For by their diuulgating the whole new Testament into a vulgar tong they declare themselues to haue a religious care of Gods word Z. Cardinall Cusanus was of that mind that he thought how as the Church by time doth alter so th' interpretacion of the Scripture also may varie whereby that in Th' apostles time was a truth in these daies shalbe an error and contrariwise our papistes in deede though not in word seeme to be of his minde els would they neuer allow that in these daies for good which their fathers condemned as wicked and damnable I meane the hauing the Scriptures in a vulgar tong yet this proueth no whit that they haue in estimation the Scriptures of God T. Why not Z. Marke I beseech you Albeit they haue translated the New Testament into English which for all that most impiouslie they haue done and sacrilegiouslie yet when they holde either as Hosius that there is none other expresse word of God but onely this word Ama or Dilige Loue thou or as another that the gospel is nothing els but the determination of the Church or as the same Hosius that whatsoeuer the church of Rome teacheth that is th' expresse word of God but whatsoeuer is taught contrarie to the sence and cōsent of the Romish church is th' expresse word of the deuil or as Harding doth that to the interpretation which the Church of Rome giueth of the Scriptures whatsoeuer it be is the od and onlie true sence of Gods word it is apparāt that hold what they list for the letre they make their owne imaginations determinations senses consent and expositions euen the verie word of God reiecting thereby in comparison thereof the most holie writinges of the blessed Prophets and Apostles who we know wrote not by the wil of mā but through th' instinct of the holie ghost And this being established by th' auctoritie of the Pope doth not it seat the Pope in the propheticall Chaire not of Moses but euen of Christ himselfe T. Vndoubtedlie Z. And yet end they not here but giue vnto the same Pope that auctoritie which neither Christ would take vnto himselfe nor yet could giue vnto anie creature beside T. What may that be Z. Euen an absolute auctoritie to dispense against the law of God against the law of nature against th' epistles of S. Paul against the whole new Testament and against al the commaundements of God For with these and against all these they say the Pope at his pleasure can dispence T. But so cannot Christ himselfe do For what soeuer his written word any where doth condemne as il and vngodlie by no dispensation can he make it good godlie and allowable at any time Z. It were an endles thing to mention the most horrible dispensations proceeding from time to time from th' infinite power of this arrogant aduersarie of Christ I will therefore mention one of them for the horriblenes thereof which plainlie sheweth what spirite it is that possesseth the Pope T. Shew that I pray you Z. The time was some thirtie yeares ago when the popish preachers in their open sermons published that to kill a Lutheran it was a worke gratefull to God and meritorious But of late not yet fiue yeares ago for à natural and often sworne Subiect and seruant to murther his liege soueraigne it was not onely permitted as pardonal by a dispensation from the pope but also iudged meritorious by a cardinals letre as wherby he should merit much in heauen T. An Indian great man as I haue heard being tormented most cruellie by the barbarous Spaniardes grew into such a detestacion of that mercilesse Nation that he chose rather to go presentlie into Hel then with the Spaniardes to enioy blisse in Heauen For my part Zelotes rather would I chuse to bee for euer debarred from that ioyful paradise of euerlasting happines than to be admitted into heauen by such a meritorious worke Z. The time was and still is that they hold howe by doing good man may merit heauē which yet is erronious doctrine z much derogatorie to the merits of Christ what titles then may wee geue to them which maintaine that murther yea and the murther of Gods annointed is meritorious deserueth a reward from God T. I am of your minde and I thinke euen Satan himselfe can hardlie perpetrate a more execrable sinne But here stay we Zelotes I see now ful clerely blessed be God therefore that al poperie is most lothsome and horrible and there is none ende of citing the most cursed opinions which Papistes do maintaine they are so manie You haue sufficiently proued the pope to vsurpe euen all th' office of our S. Christ and so indeed to bee reputed of our aduersaries for verie Christ but thereby knowen of vs to be verie Antichrist And because others also as Sainct Francis and the Virgin Marie of whom you haue spoken haue the same roialties dignities and offices giuen vnto them by the Papistes which appertaine vnto Christ and vnto none besides the conclusion is that the Gospel of Christ in truth is but à verie toie or fable counted among the Papistes Z. Be it therefore knowen vnto al men by these presentes that whosoeuer is a subiect to the Pope is a traitor to God that I say not to his Countrie and a contemner of Christ and of all Christianity so-wel as the Pope with whom he may assuredlie exspect for euer to be dāned vnlesse in time through the grace of God he leaue his wicked opinions imbrace the sincere gospel of Iesus Christ at this houre in England professed embraced of all States ratified by most wholesome lawes prospered miraculously by al happie successe most constantlie against all manner Aduersaries and deuilish attemptes defended by by the most gratious glorious and victorious Prince Elizabeth whom th' almightie so preserue that she may liue still see the prosperous successe of this truth and th' ouerthrow of all enimies of the same to the great glorie of God hir owne euerlasting comfort Amen a Reuel 17. b Reuel 19. v. 7. 21. v. 9. Demonstr 2. Test. Rhem. annot Iohn 16. v. 13. 17. vers 17. Ephes. 5. v. 24. 29. 1. Tim. 3. v. 13. c N. Sād de vi●ib Monar lib. 8. d Catech Triden in exposit Symb. e Whitak against W. Reinoldes c. 5. f Theol. Wirtemb contra Bellar. p 254. g Fla. Illyricus contra mend Papist h Heshusius de 600. erroribus pontif i Theod. Beza epist. 1. k Caluinus epist S regi Poloniae f. 169. i M Latimer his last wordes in his confer with B. Ridley bout the Lords Supper m Gen. 39. v. 7. 8. c. n