Selected quad for the lemma: scripture_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
scripture_n	church_n	prove_v	tradition_n	8,242	5	9.3362	5	true

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A93867	A precept for the baptisme of infants out of the New Testament. Where the matter is first proved from three severall scriptures, that there is such a word of command. Secondly it is vindicated, as from the exceptions of the separation, so in special from the cavils of Mr. Robert Everard in a late treatise of his intituled Baby-Baptisme routed. / By Nathaniel Stephens minister of the Gospel and Fennie-Drayton in Leicester-Shire.	Stephens, Nathaniel, 1606?-1678.	1651 (1651)	Wing S5451; Thomason E623_9; ESTC R206373	68,618	79

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like_a argument_n have_v mr._n swan_n and_o mr._n bosse_n so_o far_o mr._n everard_n here_o now_o if_o by_o mr._n swan_n he_o intend_v i_o i_o be_o sure_a neither_o he_o nor_o his_o party_n ever_o hear_v any_o such_o argument_n from_o i_o for_o the_o baptise_v of_o infant_n and_o i_o be_o sure_a if_o he_o be_v put_v to_o it_o he_o can_v prove_v what_o he_o affirm_v therefore_o reader_n take_v notice_n that_o mr._n everard_n will_v not_o stick_v to_o print_v falsehood_n for_o his_o advantage_n and_o glory_n and_o the_o pluck_n down_o and_o dishonour_v the_o party_n which_o he_o do_v oppose_v that_o i_o do_v he_o no_o wrong_n observe_v these_o passage_n follow_v he_o come_v to_o withibrook_n congregation_n with_o other_o of_o his_o party_n of_o esen-hall_n the_o six_o of_o october_n the_o day_n when_o they_o sell_v their_o book_n aforesaid_a thither_o they_o come_v to_o require_v satisfaction_n for_o he_o then_o say_v i_o have_v asperse_v he_o at_o which_o time_n i_o offer_v he_o satisfaction_n if_o he_o come_v to_o deal_v with_o i_o as_o a_o brother_n i_o urge_v his_o breach_n of_o our_o saviour_n rule_n if_o thy_o brother_n sin_n against_o thou_o etc._n etc._n mat._n 18.15_o he_o say_v he_o know_v the_o text_n and_o further_o he_o and_o other_o answer_v i_o be_v no_o brother_n but_o a_o heathen_a they_o also_o say_v all_o out_o of_o the_o order_n they_o walk_v in_o be_v heathen_n against_o which_o i_o thus_o argue_v if_o all_o out_o of_o their_o order_n be_v heathen_n than_o stranger_n to_o the_o covenant_n of_o promise_n have_v no_o hope_n without_o god_n in_o the_o world_n so_o be_v a_o heathen_a define_v eph._n 2.12_o and_o if_o without_o god_n and_o without_o hope_n then_o without_o salvation_n and_o then_o indeed_o no_o true_a church_n but_o do_v mr._n everard_n and_o his_o friend_n think_v that_o all_o out_o of_o their_o order_n be_v heathen_n or_o do_v they_o not_o go_v against_o their_o light_n when_o they_o thus_o say_v if_o their_o conscience_n speak_v the_o same_o language_n that_o all_o be_v pagan_n they_o must_v judge_v they_o so_o either_o because_o they_o be_v stranger_n from_o the_o covenant_n of_o promise_n or_o because_o they_o be_v not_o baptize_v after_o their_o manner_n if_o heathen_n because_o stranger_n from_o the_o covenant_n of_o promise_n then_o no_o hope_n of_o salvation_n than_o a_o necessity_n of_o condemnation_n to_o all_o out_o of_o their_o order_n but_o if_o heathen_n because_o not_o baptize_v after_o their_o manner_n than_o their_o baptism_n only_o will_v make_v christian_n of_o heathen_n and_o none_o can_v be_v save_v without_o their_o baptism_n second_o if_o they_o say_v all_o be_v gentile_n out_o of_o their_o order_n because_o the_o outward_a court_n be_v tread_v down_o by_o all_o those_o out_o of_o their_o order_n this_o will_v help_v nothing_o because_o it_o will_v follow_v upon_o their_o own_o principy_n that_o there_o be_v no_o outward_a court_n nor_o church_n ministerial_a nor_o ordinance_n to_o 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