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A90624 A vindication of The preacher sent, or A vvarrant for publick preaching without ordination. Wherein is further discovered. 1. That some gifted men unordained, are Gospel preachers. 2. That officers sustain not a relation (as officers) to the universal Church; and other weighty questions concerning election and ordination, are opened and cleared. In answer to two books. 1. Vindiciæ ministrij evangelici revindicatæ or the Preacher (pretendly) sent, sent back again. By Dr. Colling of Norwich. 2. Quo warranto, or a moderate enquiry into the warrantableness of the preaching of gifted and unordained persons. By Mr. Pool, at the desire and appointment of the Provincial Assembly of London. With a reply to the exceptions of Mr. Hudson and Dr. Collings against the epistle to the preacher sent. / Published by Frederick Woodal, minister of the Gospel at Woodbridge in Suffolk. Samuel Petto minister of the GospeI [sic] at Sandcraft in Suffolk. Woodall, Frederick, b. 1614.; Petto, Samuel, 1624?-1711. 1659 (1659) Wing P1902; Thomason E1728_2; ESTC R204138 152,808 253

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apply_v to_o the_o church_n so_o that_o according_a to_o the_o scripture_n use_v of_o it_o the_o advantage_n be_v on_o our_o part_n 2_o cor._n 8._o 19_o he_o think_v the_o people_n do_v not_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d for_o object_n 1._o they_o be_v say_v to_o ordain_v they_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d not_o to_o themselves_o mr._n pool_n pag._n 125._o ans_fw-fr he_o confess_v that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v take_v for_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o therefore_o this_o can_v deny_v it_o to_o be_v the_o people_n or_o church_n act._n object_n 2._o the_o same_o person_n be_v say_v to_o ordain_v in_o several_a city_n and_o church_n and_o so_o have_v a_o authority_n over_o several_a church_n pag._n 25._o answ_n 1._o if_o the_o person_n be_v the_o same_o yet_o 1._o they_o do_v not_o as_o the_o manner_n of_o some_o be_v ordain_v in_o one_o church_n ●or_a another_o at_o lystra_n for_o antioch_n but_o in_o every_o church_n respective_o it_o be_v not_o all_o upon_o one_o day_n 2._o they_o be_v say_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d who_o go_v before_o other_o and_o be_v chief_a in_o choose_v 2._o it_o be_v not_o evident_a that_o the_o person_n be_v the_o same_o i●_n a_o parliament_n be_v to_o be_v choose_v and_o the_o supreme_a magistrate_n shall_v send_v man_n into_o the_o several_a county_n to_o observe_v the_o people_n election_n it_o may_v be_v say_v as_o it_o be_v here_o and_o when_o they_o have_v choose_v they_o parliament_n man_n by_o suffrage_n in_o every_o county_n etc._n etc._n though_o those_o man_n so_o send_v have_v no_o hand_n in_o the_o election_n so_o if_o paul_n and_o barnabas_n have_v be_v only_a spectator_n and_o eye-witness_n of_o the_o several_a church_n election_n yet_o all_o may_v have_v be_v say_v
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to_o another_o nor_o of_o its_o be_v a_o ordinary_a presbytery_n which_o be_v mention_v 1_o tim._n 4._o 14._o nay_o there_o be_v not_o a_o word_n in_o scripture_n for_o a_o ordinary_a officer_n act_v in_o ordination_n out_o of_o the_o particular_a church_n he_o be_v over_o upon_o a_o ordinary_a call_n and_o so_o the_o scripture_n silence_n be_v as_o much_o argumentative_a in_o case_n a_o church_n have_v no_o officer_n in_o it_o against_o ordination_n by_o officer_n of_o other_o church_n our_o officer_n as_o against_o ordination_n by_o the_o people_n object_n 2._o there_o be_v the_o same_o reason_n for_o the_o apostle_n be_v a_o precedent_n for_o minister_n baptise_v and_o not_o the_o people_n and_o for_o their_o ordain_v and_o not_o the_o people_n pag._n 158._o ans_fw-fr we_o have_v reason_n against_o the_o people_n baptise_v which_o be_v not_o fetch_v from_o the_o precedent_n of_o the_o apostle_n baptise_v and_o which_o speak_v not_o against_o the_o people_n act_v in_o ordination_n 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evidence_n that_o stumbler_n at_o and_o opposer_n of_o the_o word_n in_o respect_n of_o he_o that_o teach_v may_v be_v say_v to_o be_v teach_v this_o be_v all_o we_o produce_v it_o for_o as_o any_o reader_n may_v see_v and_o this_o it_o clear_o prove_v that_o no_o mere_a man_n can_v be_v a_o officer_n to_o such_o we_o prove_v but_o it_o be_v by_o other_o medium_n not_o by_o that_o text_n neither_o can_v any_o inferrence_n be_v draw_v from_o our_o word_n against_o christ_n be_v a_o officer_n to_o such_o especial_o see_v christ_n be_v a_o extraordinary_a person_n even_o the_o lawmaker_n and_o determiner_n who_o man_n shall_v be_v officer_n to_o as_o to_o the_o apostle_n in_o a_o large_a sense_n they_o be_v officer_n to_o heathen_n but_o not_o officer_n over_o they_o or_o in_o a_o strict_a sense_n as_o we_o have_v show_v in_o this_o book_n ch._n 7._o 2._o the_o second_o we_o own_o if_o the_o rest_n of_o our_o word_n be_v add_v to_o it_o neither_o have_v he_o disprove_v it_o we_o will_v 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selfe-contradicting_a passage_n we_o answer_v 1._o we_o can_v find_v nothing_o like_o a_o contradiction_n in_o our_o word_n if_o pag._n 20_o and_o 149._o be_v compare_v for_o if_o a_o man_n may_v lawful_o preach_v yet_o may_v there_o not_o be_v divers_a thing_n pre-required_n unto_o his_o preach_v here_o or_o there_o may_v not_o a_o man_n have_v power_n to_o preach_v and_o yet_o want_v requisite_n unto_o the_o exercise_n of_o that_o power_n in_o this_o or_o that_o place_n do_v not_o they_o say_v a_o man_n may_v have_v power_n and_o yet_o without_o the_o consent_n of_o some_o or_o a_o special_a call_n may_v not_o exercise_v that_o power_n in_o such_o a_o place_n jus_fw-la diu._n min._n pag._n 144_o do_v not_o mr._n pool_n express_o assert_v it_o pag._n 6._o yea_o he_o say_v pag._n 48._o it_o be_v true_a no_o preacher_n be_v in_o scripture_n oblige_v to_o preach_v in_o such_o or_o such_o a_o place_n etc._n etc._n what_o do_v we_o say_v more_o we_o may_v turn_v his_o word_n pag._n 163._o upon_o himself_o &_o say_v how_o can_v a_o man_n preach_v but_o he_o must_v preach_v in_o this_o or_o that_o place_n quod_fw-la nusquam_fw-la fit_a non_fw-la fit_n so_o that_o the_o contradiction_n if_o it_o be_v one_o be_v as_o much_o he_o as_o we_o 2_o it_o be_v his_o gross_a mistake_n to_o say_v that_o we_o be_v guilty_a of_o selfe-contradiction_n in_o the_o other_o two_o particular_n which_o he_o mention_v pag._n 163._o for_o what_o he_o rehearse_v out_o of_o our_o book_n pag._n 300._o to_o make_v one_o part_n of_o the_o contradiction_n be_v a_o objection_n of_o they_o they_o be_v not_o our_o word_n but_o the_o word_n of_o the_o provincial_a assembly_n jus._n divin_n min._n pag._n 133._o and_o that_o which_o he_o make_v the_o other_o part_n of_o the_o contradiction_n be_v our_o answer_n to_o the_o aforesaid_a objection_n and_o so_o we_o do_v but_o oppose_v they_o pag._n 302._o not_o contradict_v ourselves_o they_o be_v their_o word_n from_o p._n 300._o l._n 21._o to_o p._n 301._o lin_v 14._o &_o this_o he_o may_v easy_o have_v see_v though_o it_o be_v not_o print_v in_o a_o different_a character_n and_o now_o we_o shall_v put_v mr._n pool_n in_o mind_n of_o some_o of_o he_o 1._o novel_a and_o strange_a passage_n 2._o selfe-contradiction_n 3._o repugnancy_n to_o the_o provincial_a assembly_n who_o case_n he_o plead_v &_o the_o dr._n 1._o novel_a &_o strange_a passage_n 1._o he_o say_v that_o a_o minister_n may_v be_v a_o minister_n though_o he_o have_v no_o particular_a church_n to_o which_o he_o stand_v relate_v p._n 11._o &_o by_o minister_n he_o intend_v a_o officer_n pag._n 10._o 2._o he_o say_v that_o heathen_n be_v a_o part_n of_o christ_n body_n pag._n 13._o and_o therefore_o be_v the_o object_n and_o
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notion_n what_o airy_a speculation_n how_o often_o be_v people_n serve_v with_o bone_n instead_o of_o bread_n how_o oft_o have_v they_o froth_n for_o drink_v they_o that_o condemn_v too_o much_o lead_v in_o a_o window_n because_o it_o hinder_v light_a may_v be_v offend_v with_o paint_a glass_n we_o confess_v and_o deny_v not_o we_o have_v see_v thief_n and_o murderer_n go_v out_o and_o in_o at_o this_o door_n as_o also_o in_o the_o other_o way_n who_o deserve_v indeed_o that_o their_o mouth_n shall_v be_v stop_v but_o their_o evil_n flow_v not_o from_o our_o principle_n but_o from_o the_o abuse_n thereof_o not_o from_o the_o principle_n as_o state_v by_o we_o although_o mr._n pool_n in_o his_o epistle_n think_v it_o do_v very_o loose_o because_o though_o we_o assert_v it_o inexpedient_a mischievous_a and_o uncomfortable_a to_o preach_v without_o approbation_n from_o other_o yet_o we_o say_v in_o some_o case_n for_o aught_o we_o know_v it_o may_v be_v so_o do_v preacher_n sent._n pag._n 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qualification_n the_o rule_n need_v not_o be_v fix_v by_o we_o where_o it_o be_v fix_v as_o in_o rule_n of_o examination_n unto_o ordination_n it_o be_v rare_o observe_v and_o a_o man_n may_v be_v qualify_v for_o one_o place_n or_o people_n not_o for_o another_o 3._o if_o he_o mean_v the_o order_n of_o reducement_n in_o case_n error_n or_o heresy_n be_v preach_v or_o the_o liberty_n any_o way_n abuse_v the_o rule_n be_v fix_v mat._n 18_o 15_o 16._o the_o church_n have_v power_n over_o preacher_n and_o over_o pastor_n coloss_n 4._o 17._o 1_o corin._n 5._o 12._o rev._n 2._o ver_fw-la 2._o thou_o have_v try_v they_o which_o say_v they_o be_v apostle_n and_o be_v not_o and_o have_v find_v they_o liar_n that_o church_n and_o the_o angel_n thereof_o be_v commend_v for_o try_v of_o preacher_n those_o that_o may_v and_o disapprove_v may_v approve_v where_o there_o be_v cause_n here_o be_v a_o scripture_n rule_v for_o approbation_n of_o preacher_n and_o that_o not_o so_o much_o as_o in_o order_n to_o ordination_n courteous_a reader_n we_o desire_v thou_o to_o take_v notice_n of_o these_o few_o follow_a particular_n 1._o that_o we_o do_v not_o repeat_v all_o the_o word_n of_o dr._n collings_n or_o mr._n pool_n but_o what_o be_v most_o material_a in_o their_o argument_n which_o liberty_n they_o have_v take_v to_o themselves_o in_o reply_v to_o we_o 2._o that_o although_o we_o have_v cause_n to_o complain_v that_o many_o argument_n in_o our_o former_a book_n yet_o remain_v untouched_a and_o some_o but_o slight_o wound_v be_v bury_v alive_a with_o too_o much_o of_o the_o dust_n and_o ash_n of_o reproach_n cast_v upon_o they_o yet_o hope_v and_o expect_v that_o the_o determine_a reader_n will_v examine_v and_o compare_v argument_n and_o answer_n impartial_o we_o shall_v be_v silent_a 3._o that_o very_o many_o of_o mr._n pool_n argument_n and_o reply_n be_v draw_v from_o the_o apostle_n and_o that_o in_o matter_n wherein_o they_o act_v as_o extraordinary_a officer_n also_o necessity_n be_v often_o urge_v against_o we_o whereas_o necessity_n can_v just_o be_v plead_v to_o justify_v act_n unless_o it_o be_v in_o natural_a duty_n their_o instance_n of_o the_o shewbread_n reach_v no_o further_o it_o be_v a_o natural_a duty_n to_o eat_v that_o for_o the_o preservation_n of_o life_n to_o kill_v a_o man_n in_o self-defence_n be_v a_o natural_a duty_n which_o may_v further_o answer_v what_o mr._n pool_n say_v pag._n 102._o about_o necessity_n we_o say_v to_o defend_v the_o life_n of_o a_o man_n or_o to_o take_v away_o the_o life_n of_o a_o murderer_n be_v not_o a_o peculiar_a work_n to_o a_o magistrate_n but_o to_o command_v person_n to_o the_o one_o and_o the_o other_o be_v the_o magistrate_n work_v and_o this_o a_o private_a man_n may_v not_o do_v in_o a_o case_n of_o necessity_n and_o if_o they_o will_v grant_v preach_v to_o be_v a_o natural_a duty_n how_o can_v they_o deny_v gift_v man_n liberty_n for_o do_v of_o it_o 4._o that_o thou_o be_v to_o expect_v this_o the_o last_o thou_o shall_v receive_v from_o we_o in_o this_o controversy_n we_o can_v absolute_o promise_v it_o because_o the_o righteous_a and_o the_o wise_a and_o their_o work_n be_v in_o the_o hand_n of_o god_n eccles_n 9_o 1._o but_o be_v very_o much_o incline_v unto_o it_o among_o other_o upon_o these_o ground_n because_o we_o have_v speak_v full_o to_o the_o matter_n in_o our_o former_a and_o this_o book_n and_o there_o be_v no_o end_n of_o word_n neither_o do_v we_o love_v always_o to_o be_v wade_v in_o a_o controversy_n which_o divert_v from_o more_o practical_a thing_n at_o present_a and_o at_o the_o last_o must_v be_v leave_v to_o the_o reader_n to_o judge_v and_o we_o will_v not_o by_o multiply_a reply_n carry_v thou_o away_o from_o those_o argument_n we_o use_v in_o the_o first_o book_n which_o they_o have_v leave_v behind_o without_o any_o thingof_n
particular_a yet_o as_o church-officer_n no_o place_n in_o nor_o power_n over_o any_o but_o particular_n it_o be_v usual_a to_o apply_v general_a term_n indeterminate_o to_o particular_a thing_n as_o to_o say_v the_o wife_n be_v bind_v the_o man_n be_v the_o head_n of_o the_o woman_n i._n e._n this_o and_o that_o man_n wife_n etc._n etc._n so_o set_v in_o the_o church_n i._n e._n in_o this_o and_o that_o and_o the_o other_o church_n mr._n h._n repli_v further_o several_a body_n be_v one_o body_n generica_o not_o integraty_a because_o not_o unite_v by_o one_o external_a bond_n but_o the_o universal_a church_n be_v unite_v into_o one_o body_n by_o bond_n of_o the_o same_o sovereign_n the_o same_o law_n covenant_n etc._n etc._n pa._n 6._o answ_n either_o particular_a association_n be_v no_o institution_n of_o christ_n or_o they_o have_v several_a union_n law_n act_n and_o end_n man_n as_o man_n have_v their_o union_n law_n act_n etc._n etc._n man_n as_o army_n as_o body_n politic_a have_v their_o union_n law_n act_n differ_v so_o christian_n as_o christian_n have_v their_o law_n proper_a to_o that_o state_n christian_n as_o a_o common_a wealth_n their_o law_n proper_a to_o that_o state_n and_o differ_v from_o the_o other_o law_n if_o church_n union_n be_v one_o and_o that_o catholic_n union_n then_o schism_n the_o breach_n of_o that_o union_n must_v be_v as_o the_o catholic_a breach_n so_o that_o though_o a_o member_n cease_v worship_v with_o this_o assembly_n in_o this_o place_n yet_o if_o he_o worship_v with_o any_o assembly_n part_n of_o the_o church_n catholic_a in_o any_o place_n he_o be_v no_o schismatic_a upon_o which_o reason_n the_o loud_a outcry_n against_o sepration_n be_v unjust_a as_o it_o be_v unreasonable_a upon_o a_o other_o account_n we_o therefore_o yet_o renounce_v the_o name_n and_o thing_n of_o a_o church_n of_o church_n or_o a_o visable_v catholic_n church_n form_v unto_o fellowship_n in_o new_a testament_n ordinance_n in_o which_o term_n we_o 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its_o part_n collective_o consider_v no_o church_n of_o church_n be_v real_o distinct_a from_o all_o particular_a church_n ergo_fw-la there_o be_v no_o such_o church_n except_o dr._n c._n mr._n h._n there_o be_v a_o fallacy_n in_o the_o argument_n it_o be_v a_o maxim_n in_o logic_n totum_fw-la reipsa_fw-la non_fw-la dissert_v a_o partibus_fw-la simul_fw-la sumptis_fw-la &_o vnitis_fw-la answ_n our_o argument_n be_v right_o according_a to_o that_o rule_n part_n simul_fw-la sumptae_fw-la do_v not_o constitute_v a_o totum_fw-la except_o they_o be_v unite_v or_o the_o whole_a differ_v from_o all_o the_o part_n collective_o consider_v though_o unitive_o consider_v it_o differ_v not_o suppose_v ten_o heap_n of_o corn_n in_o one_o room_n contain_v all_o the_o corn_n which_o be_v in_o the_o world_n which_o afterward_o be_v reduce_v into_o one_o great_a heap_n when_o they_o be_v ten_o they_o be_v not_o one_o and_o when_o they_o be_v one_o they_o be_v not_o ten_o of_o the_o suppose_a union_n of_o the_o universal_a political_a church_n something_o have_v be_v speak_v already_o and_o more_o will_v occur_v under_o the_o head_n of_o union_n 3._o there_o be_v no_o universal_a visible_a meeting_n to_o worship_n god_n ergo_fw-la no_o universal_a visible_a church_n for_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d signify_v congregation_n or_o assembly_n company_n meet_v together_o except_o dr._n collings_n there_o be_v a_o universal_a meeting_n of_o the_o church_n catholic_n visible_a at_o the_o throne_n of_o grace_n etc._n etc._n answ_n we_o wonder_v at_o his_o discourse_n upon_o this_o argument_n for_o from_o our_o instance_n of_o the_o church_n of_o the_o firstborn_a gather_v indeed_o in_o one_o spirit_n unite_v unto_o one_o head_n meet_v invisible_o in_o one_o worship_n he_o will_v obtain_v this_o that_o although_o there_o be_v no_o local_a meeting_n yet_o there_o may_v be_v a_o visible_a church_n when_o it_o speak_v plain_o thus_o much_o viz._n as_o invisible_a union_n and_o invisible_a communion_n be_v necessary_a unto_o the_o be_v of_o the_o invisible_a so_o visible_a union_n &_o visible_a communion_n be_v necessary_a to_o the_o be_v of_o the_o visible_a church_n although_o we_o may_v be_v present_a with_o dr._n collings_n in_o spirit_n and_o he_o with_o we_o never_o come_v together_o in_o the_o same_o place_n yet_o visible_o present_a we_o can_v be_v nor_o in_o the_o performance_n of_o any_o visible_a work_n exc._n mr._n h._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d signify_v a_o call_n out_o not_o a_o call_n together_o the_o particular_a congregation_n be_v rather_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d then_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d answ_n that_o particular_a congregation_n and_o assembly_n of_o people_n whether_o civil_a or_o sacred_a be_v in_o scripture_n always_o term_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d never_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d mr_n h._n can_v be_v ignorant_a what_o he_o write_v therefore_o be_v not_o a_o corrective_a from_o the_o writing_n of_o weak_a man_n but_o for_o the_o scripture_n of_o the_o most_o wise_a god_n by_o which_o alone_o we_o desire_v to_o measure_v our_o notion_n and_o expression_n in_o this_o controversy_n be_v it_o so_o that_o the_o scottish_a word_n kirk_n and_o the_o english_a word_n church_n come_v from_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d which_o signify_v the_o lord_n all_o assembly_n be_v not_o so_o proper_o the_o lord_n as_o church-assembly_n as_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d yet_o as_o be_v the_o church_n so_o be_v the_o union_n thereof_o so_o the_o work_n and_o meeting_n thereunto_o the_o universal_a church_n be_v the_o general_a assembly_n heb._n 12._o 23._o meeting_n in_o one_o place_n spiritual_o and_o invisible_o they_o be_v all_o come_v to_o mount_n zion_n to_o the_o city_n of_o the_o live_a god_n to_o the_o heavenly_a jerusalem_n heb._n 12._o 22._o they_o be_v all_o choose_v out_o of_o the_o world_n 10._o 15._o 19_o i._n e._n call_v
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both_o which_o we_o mention_v preacher_n sent._n pag._n 203_o 204._o argue_v that_o none_o else_o may_v act_v herein_o nor_o will_v officer_n be_v useless_a and_o un-necessary_a as_o to_o those_o act_n if_o gift_a man_n may_v preach_v and_o the_o church_n act_n in_o government_n and_o this_o answer_v divers_a of_o his_o exception_n pag._n 103._o 104._o only_o we_o shall_v add_v that_o his_o strain_v one_o of_o our_o similitude_n to_o make_v it_o run_v on_o four_o foot_n for_o the_o draw_v this_o out_o of_o it_o that_o gift_a man_n may_v preach_v or_o may_v let_v it_o a_o lone_n and_o then_o add_v many_o line_n pag._n 103._o to_o disprove_v what_o himself_o have_v wrest_v out_o of_o it_o be_v far_o from_o a_o candied_a deal_n with_o we_o especial_o see_v the_o very_a word_n of_o our_o similitude_n do_v plain_o deny_v this_o sense_n of_o it_o and_o these_o word_n he_o have_v conceal_v our_o similitude_n run_v thus_o a_o christian_a friend_n or_o neighbour_n may_v and_o aught_o to_o 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etc._n that_o we_o be_v persuade_v no_o impartial_a reader_n who_o shall_v compare_v his_o book_n and_o we_o together_o will_v in_o the_o least_o question_n it_o by_o all_o that_o he_o have_v say_v 2._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d do_v answer_v to_o the_o question_n if_o it_o be_v ask_v who_o do_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d vid._n preacher_n sent._n p._n 243._o 3._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v dicitur_fw-la qui_fw-la praeest_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d see_v dr._n ames_n bellarm._n eneru._n t._n 2._o pag._n 97._o and_o thus_o paul_n and_o barnabas_n may_v be_v say_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d though_o they_o only_o go_v before_o the_o church_n in_o the_o choice_n as_o we_o prove_v preacher_n sent._n pag._n 230._o etc._n etc._n the_o people_n have_v their_o free_a election_n but_o least_o there_o shall_v any_o tumult_n arise_v paul_n and_o barnabas_n fit_a as_o chief_a moderator_n say_v calvin_n in_o loc_n and_o therefore_o if_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v 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〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d into_o it_o unless_o it_o can_v be_v prove_v that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v use_v to_o express_v a_o choice_n in_o a_o assembly_n by_o the_o suffrage_n only_o of_o one_o or_o two_o nothing_o be_v say_v to_o the_o case_n act_v 14._o 23._o or_o against_o our_o argument_n paul_n and_o barnabas_n be_v but_o two_o there_o can_v be_v no_o place_n for_o suffrage_n say_v the_o london_n minister_n jus._n divin_n min._n pag._n 130._o according_a to_o their_o grammar_n as_o well_o as_o we_o two_o person_n can_v not_o make_v suffrage_n he_o require_v why_o can_v not_o paul_n and_o 129._o vind._n rev._n pag._n 129._o barnabas_n make_v suffrage_n sure_o they_o make_v two_o and_o that_o be_v the_o plural_a number_n sure_o we_o
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officer_n towards_o convertible_a 10._o mr._n poole_n p._n 10._o heathen_n than_o they_o be_v no●_n officer_n only_o to_o their_o particular_a congregation_n but_o minister_n be_v officer_n and_o act_n as_o officer_n towards_o convertible_a heathen_n to_o prove_v his_o minor_a he_o say_v 1._o that_o apostles_n be_v constitute_v officer_n before_o the_o visible_a gospel_n church_n be_v erect_v be_v undeniable_a 2_o such_o be_v clear_o express_v mat._n 28._o ver_fw-la 19_o 20._o to_o be_v the_o primary_n and_o immediate_a object_n of_o the_o apostical_a office_n and_o relation_n answ_n 1._o there_o be_v multitude_n baptize_v by_o john_n before_o the_o apostle_n be_v constitute_v officer_n mat._n 3._o ver_fw-la 5_o 6._o and_o either_o there_o must_v be_v some_o visible_a gospel_n church_n then_o erect_v to_o which_o these_o baptise_a person_n be_v relate_v and_o then_o his_o argument_n be_v untrue_a or_o else_o that_o must_v be_v a_o truth_n which_o he_o call_v a_o monstrous_a paradox_n pag._n 28._o viz._n that_o baptism_n do_v not_o admit_v or_o make_v a_o man_n to_o stand_v in_o relation_n to_o any_o church_n for_o they_o be_v member_n of_o the_o jewish_a church_n before_o and_o so_o be_v not_o admit_v into_o that_o by_o their_o baptism_n and_o if_o no_o gospel_n church_n be_v at_o this_o time_n erect_v than_o their_o baptism_n do_v not_o admit_v they_o into_o any_o church_n at_o all_o 2._o many_o do_v visible_o stand_v in_o relation_n to_o christ_n before_o the_o apostle_n be_v constitute_v officer_n or_o have_v that_o mission_n mat._n 28._o therefore_o either_o his_o argument_n p._n 29._o must_v be_v false_a or_o else_o this_o his_o position_n p._n 10._o that_o apostle_n be_v constitute_v officer_n before_o the_o visible_a gospel_n church_n be_v erect_v can_v be_v true_a of_o which_o he_o say_v it_o be_v a_o plain_a case_n and_o undeniable_a 3._o if_o the_o essence_n of_o the_o church_n have_v be_v preserve_v in_o the_o apostle_n in_o case_n all_o convert_v christian_n have_v dye_v as_o he_o suppose_v pag._n 10._o how_o can_v he_o deny_v the_o church_n to_o have_v a_o be_v the_o apostle_n have_v a_o be_v in_o who_o he_o say_v the_o essence_n of_o the_o church_n be_v 4._o we_o desire_v our_o distinction_n former_o mention_v may_v be_v remember_v we_o grant_v the_o apostle_n be_v and_o other_o be_v in_o a_o general_a sense_n officer_n to_o heathen_n but_o we_o deny_v that_o they_o be_v or_o that_o other_o be_v officer_n to_o heathen_n in_o a_o special_a sense_n namely_o as_o over_o they_o in_o the_o lord_n and_o this_o answer_v his_o supposition_n pag._n 10._o of_o christian_n die_v and_o none_o remain_v to_o be_v preach_v to_o but_o heathen_n and_o also_o take_v off_o his_o charge_n against_o we_o in_o the_o same_o page_n for_o deny_v apostle_n to_o be_v officer_n unto_o heathen_n 5._o apostle_n be_v extraordinary_a officer_n our_o question_n be_v only_o about_o ordinary_a officer_n and_o therefore_o all_o he_o say_v be_v beside_o the_o question_n if_o apostles_n be_v before_o the_o visible_a gospel_n church_n be_v erect_v and_o if_o apostle_n act_v as_o officer_n towards_o convertible_a heathen_n yet_o see_v they_o be_v extraordinary_a officer_n it_o will_v not_o follow_v thence_o that_o ordinary_a officer_n act_v as_o officer_n towards_o convertible_a heathen_n object_n apostle_n and_o pastor_n be_v parallel_v in_o this_o case_n ephes_n 4._o vers_fw-la 11._o 12._o etc._n etc._n the_o body_n of_o christ_n in_o its_o latitude_n be_v the_o correlatum_fw-la or_o the_o object_n of_o the_o pastoral_a office_n but_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n include_v heathen_n therefore_o heathen_n to_o be_v convert_v be_v the_o object_n and_o correlate_n of_o the_o pastoral_a office_n that_o heathen_n be_v a_o part_n of_o christ_n body_n he_o think_v evident_a they_o be_v call_v his_o sheep_n joh._n 10._o ver_fw-la 16._o he_o lay_v down_o his_o life_n for_o they_o which_o he_o do_v only_o for_o his_o body_n eph._n 5._o etc._n etc._n mr._n poole_n pag._n 12._o 13._o answ_n 1._o if_o by_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n eph._n 4._o ver_fw-la 11._o 12._o we_o must_v as_o mr._n poole_n say_v pag._n 12._o necessary_o understand_v the_o whole_a collection_n of_o all_o christ_n member_n in_o all_o age_n of_o the_o church_n all_o which_o in_o scripture_n phrase_n go_v to_o the_o make_v up_o of_o christ_n body_n etc._n etc._n then_o it_o be_v the_o mystical_a body_n of_o christ_n that_o be_v intend_v consist_v of_o the_o whole_a number_n of_o the_o elect_a redeem_v justify_v or_o sanctify_a one_o and_o these_o only_a and_o if_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n include_v heathen_n and_o visible_o unconvert_v one_o as_o mr._n poole_n suppose_v it_o do_v here_o than_o it_o must_v be_v take_v in_o this_o sense_n but_o that_o minister_n shall_v be_v officer_n or_o act_v as_o officer_n to_o this_o mystical_a
church_n jus_fw-la diu._n min._n pag._n 139._o and_o mr._n poole_n say_v pag._n 25._o in_o scripture_n there_o be_v ne_fw-fr 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d quidem_fw-la of_o any_o other_o door_n of_o admission_n and_o call_v the_o contrary_a a_o monstrous_a paradox_n pag._n 28._o and_o how_o he_o can_v deny_v it_o to_o be_v their_o assertion_n or_o free_v himself_o from_o self-contradiction_n in_o these_o expression_n we_o know_v not_o for_o what_o difference_n be_v there_o between_o be_v made_n a_o church-member_n by_o baptism_n and_o be_v admit_v into_o the_o church_n by_o baptism_n and_o how_o can_v one_o be_v a_o church-member_n fore_o baptism_n and_o yet_o be_v admit_v into_o the_o church_n by_o baptism_n especial_o if_o there_o be_v not_o any_o other_o door_n of_o admission_n how_o can_v those_o that_o be_v within_o the_o church_n already_o be_v say_v without_o a_o loss_n of_o membership_n to_o be_v admit_v into_o it_o by_o any_o after_o act_v sure_o admission_n be_v of_o those_o who_o be_v without_o and_o no_o member_n not_o of_o those_o who_o be_v within_o and_o be_v church-member_n the_o scripture_n know_v no_o such_o thing_n as_o a_o be_v church-member_n inchoate_n either_o they_o be_v church-member_n or_o not_o if_o they_o be_v church-member_n as_o he_o confess_v they_o be_v before_o baptism_n than_o they_o be_v admit_v for_o membership_n presuppose_v admission_n 2._o as_o well_o may_v we_o say_v that_o man_n be_v officer_n by_o a_o church_n election_n before_o ordination_n and_o only_o the_o solemn_a admission_n into_o the_o office_n or_o rather_o exercise_v of_o it_o to_o be_v by_o ordination_n as_o he_o may_v assert_v a_o admission_n by_o baptism_n after_o membership_n and_o then_o the_o essence_n of_o the_o call_v to_o office_n be_v not_o in_o ordination_n 3._o if_o infant_n church-membership_a be_v as_o he_o say_v pag._n 24._o the_o ground_n of_o their_o baptism_n than_o they_o be_v visible_a church-member_n before_o their_o be_v baptise_a for_o the_o ground_n of_o a_o action_n must_v be_v visible_a before_o act_v and_o so_o their_o visible_a admission_n into_o the_o church_n be_v not_o by_o baptism_n but_o before_o it_o and_o in_o convert_n profession_n of_o faith_n which_o he_o suppose_v they_o church-member_n by_o must_v first_o be_v visible_a and_o so_o their_o visible_a admission_n into_o the_o church_n be_v antecedaneous_a to_o and_o be_v not_o by_o their_o baptism_n and_o as_o public_a as_o their_o profession_n be_v so_o public_a be_v their_o visible_a church-membership_a or_o admission_n into_o the_o church_n before_o baptism_n as_o to_o what_o follow_v pag._n 24._o 25._o we_o former_o do_v and_o still_o do_v deny_v that_o a_o minister_n eject_v a_o man_n just_o out_o of_o his_o own_o church_n eject_v he_o juridical_o out_o of_o all_o other_o church_n for_o this_o see_v our_o answer_n to_o dr._n collings_n epistle_n object_n if_o he_o be_v not_o juridical_o eject_v out_o of_o other_o church_n than_o he_o be_v in_o a_o capacity_n of_o be_v receive_v into_o other_o church_n which_o what_o horrid_a confusion_n it_o will_v introduce_v etc._n etc._n mr._n poole_n pag._n 24._o answ_n it_o will_v not_o follow_v for_o that_o sin_n which_o make_v the_o ejection_n just_a will_v make_v another_o church_n admission_n unjust_a yet_o mens_fw-la incapacity_n to_o be_v receive_v by_o other_o church_n do_v not_o arise_v from_o their_o be_v cast_v out_o of_o those_o church_n but_o from_o the_o want_n of_o such_o qualification_n as_o be_v perquisite_a to_o admission_n into_o church-fellowship_n he_o grant_v p._n 25._o that_o when_o a_o minister_n be_v juridical_o eject_v out_o of_o office_n in_o a_o particular_a church_n by_o deposition_n he_o cease_v to_o be_v a_o officer_n to_o the_o universal_a church_n whence_o we_o infer_v that_o if_o he_o repent_v and_o become_v a_o officer_n again_o he_o must_v have_v a_o new_a ordination_n or_o else_o he_o may_v of_o no_o officer_n become_v a_o officer_n without_o ordination_n and_o so_o ordination_n be_v not_o essential_a to_o office_n that_o which_o follow_v pag._n 25._o be_v but_o a_o repetition_n of_o what_o he_o have_v say_v and_o be_v answer_v before_o that_o such_o as_o be_v convert_v from_o heathenism_n may_v join_v as_o member_n to_o some_o church_n and_o so_o be_v baptize_v we_o prove_v preacher_n sent._n pag._n 289._o he_o repli_v nothing_o to_o the_o proof_n of_o it_o yet_o charge_v we_o for_o obtrude_a uncouth_a notion_n upon_o the_o world_n without_o evident_a proof_n etc._n etc._n and_o he_o that_o say_v pag._n 24._o they_o be_v church-member_n inchoate_v before_o baptism_n and_o who_o make_v so_o little_a a_o matter_n of_o admission_n into_o a_o particular_a church_n shall_v not_o stumble_v at_o this_o notion_n and_o what_o be_v say_v to_o show_v that_o admission_n be_v not_o by_o baptism_n will_v not_o be_v far_o from_o a_o proof_n of_o it_o our_o argument_n preacher_n sent._n pag._n 292._o plain_o show_v that_o their_o assertion_n run_v they_o upon_o anabaptism_n mr._n poole_n pag._n 26._o 27._o give_v a_o double_a reason_n against_o it_o 1._o that_o a_o excommunicate_a person_n ordinary_o be_v a_o church-member_n though_o a_o disease_a member_n 2_o thes_n 3._o etc._n etc._n 2._o though_o his_o baptism_n cease_v at_o present_a actual_o and_o real_o as_o to_o all_o the_o actual_a privilege_n of_o it_o so_o cease_v that_o while_n he_o repent_v not_o he_o be_v to_o be_v look_v upon_o after_o a_o sort_n as_o a_o unbaptised_a person_n yet_o when_o he_o do_v repent_v and_o readmit_v himself_o to_o the_o church_n he_o need_v no_o new_a baptism_n forasmuch_o as_o god_n be_v please_v to_o impute_v to_o he_o his_o former_a baptism_n and_o the_o church_n accept_v of_o it_o etc._n etc._n answ_n 1._o anabaptism_n unavoidable_o follow_v upon_o their_o assertion_n thus_o he_o that_o cease_v to_o be_v a_o member_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n his_o baptism_n cease_v say_v they_o jus_n divin_n min._n pag._n 146._o but_o he_o that_o be_v excommunicate_a cease_v say_v they_o to_o be_v a_o member_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n for_o they_o tell_v we_o excommunication_n eject_v out_o of_o that_o church_n jus_n divin_n min._n pag._n 139._o ergo_fw-la he_o that_o be_v excommunicate_a his_o baptism_n cease_v ergo_fw-la if_o he_o be_v readmit_v he_o must_v be_v rebaptise_v or_o else_o be_v in_o the_o church_n unbaptise_v sure_o mr._n poole_n will_v not_o say_v that_o one_o may_v be_v eject_v out_o of_o and_o yet_o remain_v a_o member_n of_o the_o church_n for_o it_o be_v a_o contradiction_n to_o say_v that_o one_o be_v out_o of_o and_o yet_o in_o the_o church_n at_o the_o same_o time_n and_o contrary_a to_o 1_o corin._n 5._o 12._o which_o prove_v that_o those_o who_o be_v without_o be_v not_o within_o yet_o he_o have_v no_o other_o way_n to_o save_v the_o london_n minister_n from_o the_o dint_n of_o the_o forego_n conclusion_n to_o help_v they_o out_o of_o this_o labyrinth_n mr._n poole_n tell_v we_o that_o a_o excommunicate_a person_n be_v a_o church-member_n still_o but_o this_o be_v not_o to_o defend_v but_o to_o contradict_v they_o who_o cause_n he_o undertake_v to_o to_o plead_v for_o they_o tell_v we_o a_o excommunicate_a person_n be_v eject_v out_o of_o the_o church_n and_o mr._n poole_n say_v he_o be_v a_o member_n of_o the_o church_n still_o this_o therefore_o may_v suffice_v for_o the_o defence_n of_o what_o we_o have_v say_v but_o we_o shall_v add_v a_o few_o word_n 2._o it_o be_v the_o judgement_n of_o many_o that_o the_o withdraw_v mention_v 2_o thes_n 3._o ver_fw-la 6._o 14._o vast_o differ_v from_o excommunication_n because_o after_o the_o one_o a_o man_n be_v to_o be_v deem_v as_o a_o brother_n and_o after_o the_o other_o he_o be_v to_o be_v account_v as_o a_o heathen_a and_o a_o publican_n mat._n 18._o ver_fw-la 17._o and_o if_o so_o this_o be_v no_o proof_n that_o excommunicate_a person_n be_v church-member_n see_v the_o text_n speak_v nothing_o of_o excommunication_n but_o only_o of_o withdraw_v 3._o we_o observe_v his_o halt_n here_o he_o do_v not_o say_v a_o excommunicate_a person_n always_o but_o ordinary_o be_v a_o member_n as_o if_o excommunication_n do_v sometime_o make_v a_o man_n cease_v to_o be_v a_o church-member_n but_o ordinary_o not_o which_o there_o be_v no_o syllable_n in_o scripture_n for_o and_o much_o against_o it_o mat._n 18_o v._n 17._o excommunicate_a person_n be_v to_o be_v deem_v as_o heathen_n and_o publican_n ergo_fw-la not_o as_o church-member_n that_o such_o as_o be_v excommunicate_a for_o blasphemy_n deny_v christ_n to_o be_v the_o messiah_n or_o renounce_v some_o such_o grand_a article_n of_o faith_n shall_v still_o be_v a_o church-member_n be_v strange_a doctrine_n yet_o this_o must_v be_v or_o else_o his_o argument_n pag._n 26._o be_v nought_o for_o it_o may_v be_v say_v he_o who_o be_v under_o a_o church_n
ordinance_n appoint_v for_o his_o good_a be_v according_a to_o mr._n poole_n a_o church-member_n but_o he_o who_o be_v excommunicate_a for_o blasphemy_n deny_v christ_n etc._n etc._n be_v under_o a_o church-ordinance_n for_o his_o good_a ergo_fw-la according_a to_o mr._n pool_n he_o who_o be_v excomunicate_v for_o blasphemy_n deny_v christ_n etc._n etc._n be_v a_o church-member_n and_o that_o the_o same_o ordinance_n of_o excommunication_n do_v pass_v upon_o some_o and_o cut_v they_o off_o from_o church-membership_a and_o pass_v upon_o other_o and_o leave_v they_o member_n still_o let_v he_o prove_v 4._o neither_o they_o in_o their_o jus_fw-la divin_n min._n nor_o we_o in_o our_o former_a book_n do_v speak_v of_o the_o cease_n of_o baptism_n as_o to_o the_o actual_a privilege_n of_o it_o or_o as_o to_o man_n account_n only_o or_o chief_o but_o about_o the_o cease_n of_o the_o water_n baptism_n itself_o and_o therefore_o what_o mr._n pool_n s●ith_o p._n 27._o be_v altogether_o beside_o the_o question_n neither_o do_v his_o instance_n of_o circumcision_n help_v he_o for_o if_o any_o turn_v heathen_a or_o idolater_n and_o renounce_v his_o circumcision_n yet_o he_o remain_v a_o circumcise_a person_n and_o his_o circumcision_n may_v be_v a_o witness_n against_o he_o though_o he_o be_v to_o be_v repute_v as_o a_o heathen_a while_o such_o and_o so_o we_o apprehend_v though_o a_o baptize_v person_n cease_v by_o excommunication_n to_o be_v a_o member_n of_o any_o visible_a church_n yet_o this_o baptism_n cease_v not_o but_o if_o it_o do_v real_o cease_v as_o they_o say_v it_o do_v rebaptise_v will_v necessary_o be_v infer_v 5._o if_o baptism_n itself_o about_o which_o the_o question_n be_v do_v cease_v upon_o the_o cessation_n of_o membership_n in_o the_o visible_a church_n that_o upon_o the_o person_n repentance_n the_o lord_n shall_v impute_v his_o former_a baptism_n to_o he_o be_v such_o a_o notion_n as_o to_o use_v his_o own_o phrase_n in_o scripture_n there_o be_v ne_fw-fr 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d quidem_fw-la of_o any_o such_o thing_n 6._o if_o a_o man_n cease_v to_o be_v a_o member_n of_o a_o particular_a church_n shall_v make_v his_o baptism_n cease_v upon_o its_o be_v the_o door_n of_o admission_n into_o that_o as_o they_o assert_v then_o a_o pari_fw-la a_o man_n cease_v to_o be_v a_o member_n of_o the_o catholic_a church_n by_o excommunication_n or_o otherwise_o will_v make_v his_o baptism_n ceasesupon_o its_o be_v the_o door_n of_o admission_n into_o that_o &_o so_o rebaptise_v must_v follow_v upon_o readmission_n so_o that_o this_o fall_v heavy_a upon_o their_o principle_n but_o it_o touch_v not_o we_o because_o we_o deny_v baptism_n to_o be_v the_o door_n of_o admission_n into_o an●_n church_n and_o this_o answer_v what_o he_o say_v pag._n 27._o he_o say_v pag._n 28._o we_o grant_v that_o baptism_n be_v a_o sign_n of_o a_o man_n admission_n to_o the_o church_n reply_n he_o much_o mistake_v we_o for_o we_o do_v not_o grant_v that_o its_o sacramental_a use_n be_v to_o be_v a_o sign_n of_o admission_n into_o the_o church_n but_o in_o regard_n church-member-ship_n be_v pre-required_n unto_o baptism_n hence_o as_o thing_n consequential_a be_v sign_n of_o what_o be_v antecedent_n and_o fruit_n a_o sign_n of_o a_o tree_n so_o baptism_n if_o orderly_o administer_v be_v a_o sign_n of_o admission_n into_o a_o church_n we_o grant_v it_o to_o be_v a_o sign_n of_o one_o be_v engage_v for_o the_o profession_n of_o the_o name_n of_o christ_n he_o ask_v pag._n 28._o what_o be_v a_o church_n but_o a_o company_n of_o man_n profess_v the_o name_n of_o christ_n reply_n 1._o we_o speak_v only_o of_o a_o subsequent_a sign_n which_o presupposech_v his_o be_v admit_v into_o the_o church_n and_o be_v engage_v for_o the_o name_n of_o christ_n and_o so_o be_v not_o the_o door_n of_o admission_n 2._o a_o company_n of_o unbaptised_a person_n may_v profess_v the_o name_n of_o christ_n ergo_fw-la according_a to_o mr._n pool_n they_o be_v a_o church_n and_o then_o baptism_n can_v be_v the_o door_n of_o admission_n into_o the_o church_n we_o say_v baptism_n make_v not_o a_o man_n to_o stand_v in_o relation_n to_o any_o church_n by_o which_o we_o intend_v only_o this_o that_o baptism_n do_v not_o admit_v a_o man_n into_o any_o church_n mr._n pool_n pag._n 28_o call_v this_o a_o monstrous_a paradox_n which_o shall_v not_o have_v be_v dictate_v without_o any_o proof_n etc._n etc._n reply_n we_o have_v not_o mere_o dictate_v it_o but_o have_v give_v clear_a proof_n for_o it_o preacher_n send_v pag._n 284._o 286._o 292_o 293._o himself_n grant_v that_o both_o infant_n and_o otner_n be_v church-member_n inchoate_v before_o baptism_n pag._n 24._o church-membership_a be_v a_o relation_n and_o as_o it_o be_v gross_o improper_a to_o say_v that_o a_o man_n be_v a_o father_n or_o master_n etc._n etc._n inchoate_n but_o not_o a_o complete_a father_n or_o master_n so_o its_o improper_a to_o say_v that_o one_o be_v enchoate_n only_o a_o church-member_n and_o therefore_o they_o be_v admit_v not_o by_o but_o before_o baptism_n but_o that_o baptism_n do_v not_o make_v man_n member_n of_o the_o church_n be_v large_o prove_v in_o the_o answer_n of_o new-england_n elder_n to_o the_o 32._o question_n pag._n 12_o to_o 20._o ob._n 1._o we_o be_v all_o baptize_v into_o one_o body_n 1_o corin._n 12._o 13._o by_o which_o it_o be_v most_o evident_a that_o baptism_n give_v a_o man_n relation_n to_o some_o body_n etc._n etc._n mr._n pool_n pag._n 28._o ans_fw-fr the_o whole_a stress_n of_o this_o argument_n depend_v upon_o translate_n the_o preposition_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d into_o whereas_o it_o be_v frequent_o use_v to_o signify_v in_o be_v mat._n 2._o ver_fw-la 23._o he_o come_v and_o dwell_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o a_o city_n etc._n etc._n so_o 1_o peter_n 5._o 12._o act_n 2._o 27._o luke_n 11._o 7._o mark_v 1._o v._o 9_o be_v baptize_v of_o john_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o jordan_n and_o hence_o v._o 5._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o the_o river_n jordan_n that_o which_o be_v express_v by_o i●_n in_o one_o verse_n be_v express_v by_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o the_o other_o all_o which_o clear_o show_v that_o no_o argument_n can_v be_v ground_v upon_o its_o signify_v into_o and_o if_o it_o be_v render_v in_o as_o often_o it_o be_v in_o other_o text_n than_o his_o argument_n come_v to_o nothing_o whether_o it_o be_v the_o visible_a or_o invisible_a church_n that_o be_v there_o intend_a for_o it_o run_v thus_o by_o one_o spirit_n we_o be_v all_o baptize_v in_o one_o body_n &_o then_o they_o be_v first_o in_o that_o body_n &_o baptize_v after_o &_o so_o baptism_n be_v not_o the_o door_n of_o admission_n or_o do_v not_o give_v relation_n to_o that_o body_n 2._o a_o antecedent_n entrance_n into_o a_o relation_n be_v usual_o express_v by_o a_o subsequent_a adjunct_n of_o that_o relation_n as_o a_o entrance_n into_o kingly_a government_n be_v express_v by_o coronation_n and_o gen._n 45._o 10._o the_o sceptre_n shall_v not_o depart_v etc._n etc._n i._n c._n there_o shall_v be_v one_o to_o bear_v the_o sceptre_n there_o become_v governor_n be_v denote_v by_o a_o sceptre_n which_o be_v a_o subsequent_a sign_n of_o government_n so_o if_o 〈◊〉_d be_v render_v into_o yet_o it_o may_v be_v only_o a_o adjunct_n privilege_n of_o church-membership_a and_o not_o that_o which_o make_v to_o stand_v in_o relation_n to_o any_o body_n or_o church_n 3._o there_o be_v different_a gift_n and_o grace_n in_o the_o member_n of_o the_o mystical_a body_n of_o christ_n and_o therefore_o these_o can_v prove_v it_o a_o organical_a political_a body_n yet_o what_o do_v the_o apostle_n say_v more_o of_o this_o one_o body_n but_o whatever_o the_o body_n be_v the_o relation_n thereto_o be_v not_o prove_v to_o be_v by_o baptism_n as_o mr._n cartwright_n observe_v on_o gal._n 3._o 27._o where_o we_o be_v say_v to_o put_v on_o christ_n by_o baptism_n it_o be_v the_o usual_a phrase_n of_o the_o scripture_n which_o give_v that_o unto_o the_o sarcrament_n which_o be_v due_a unto_o the_o thing_n whereof_o it_o be_v a_o sacrament_n so_o here_o ob._n 2._o that_o which_o make_v a_o man_n visible_o stand_v in_o relation_n to_o christ_n that_o make_v he_o visible_o to_o stand_v in_o relation_n to_o the_o church_n but_o baptism_n make_v a_o man_n visible_o to_o stand_v in_o relation_n to_o christ_n ergo_fw-la answ_n both_o proposition_n be_v false_a 1._o his_o major_n be_v untrue_a because_o a_o visible_a relation_n to_o christ_n must_v precede_v or_o go_v before_o a_o visible_a relation_n to_o the_o church_n for_o none_o but_o visible_a saint_n or_o believer_n be_v to_o be_v admit_v into_o church_n relation_n act_v 2._o v._o 47._o they_o be_v save_v once_o i._n e._n
pag._n 35._o deny_v the_o major_a and_o say_v a_o minister_n be_v not_o oblige_v actual_o to_o feed_v all_o his_o flock_n and_o add_v every_o apostle_n be_v a_o catholics_n pastor_n and_o so_o have_v the_o whole_a church_n for_o his_o flock_n mat._n 28._o 19_o 20._o but_o every_o apostle_n be_v not_o oblige_v actual_o to_o feed_v the_o whole_a church_n and_o all_o nation_n etc._n etc._n answ_n 1._o his_o denial_n of_o the_o major_n be_v little_o better_a than_o a_o denial_n of_o the_o very_a word_n of_o scripture_n for_o the_o apostle_n say_v act_n 20._o 28._o take_v heed_n to_o all_o the_o flock_n over_o the_o which_o the_o holy_a ghost_n have_v make_v you_o overseer_n to_o feed_v the_o church_n etc._n etc._n be_v it_o not_o plain_a that_o actual_a feed_n be_v enjoin_v and_o that_o not_o only_o some_o but_o all_o a_o man_n flock_n be_v thus_o to_o be_v say_v 2._o this_o do_v not_o answer_v our_o argument_n but_o leave_v we_o under_o a_o new_a seem_a difficulty_n 3._o if_o his_o reason_n shall_v be_v whole_o grant_v we_o do_v not_o see_v how_o it_o justify_v his_o denial_n of_o our_o major_n or_o take_v away_o the_o force_n of_o our_o argument_n and_o have_v he_o not_o leave_v out_o the_o conclusion_n of_o his_o syllogism_n he_o may_v easy_o have_v see_v it_o himself_o for_o the_o utmost_a he_o can_v conclude_v from_o those_o premise_n be_v but_o this_o ergo_fw-la every_o catholic_a pastor_n who_o have_v the_o whole_a church_n for_o his_o flock_n be_v not_o oblige_v actual_o to_o feed_v the_o whole_a church_n all_o nation_n etc._n etc._n and_o what_o be_v all_o this_o to_o the_o purpose_n if_o every_o catholic_a pastor_n or_o every_o one_o who_o have_v the_o whole_a church_n for_o his_o flock_n be_v not_o will_v it_o follow_v hence_o that_o no_o officer_n be_v oblige_v actual_o to_o feed_v all_o his_o flock_n may_v there_o not_o be_v some_o officer_n who_o have_v no_o such_o large_a flock_n and_o may_v stand_v under_o such_o obligation_n if_o every_o apostle_n be_v not_o yet_o may_v not_o every_o ordinary_a officer_n be_v oblige_v actual_o to_o feed_v all_o his_o flock_n what_o shadow_n ofa_fw-mi consequence_n be_v here_o this_o may_v be_v enough_o in_o answer_n to_o that_o which_o he_o suppose_v to_o be_v a_o unanswerable_a reason_n but_o that_o his_o reason_n take_v not_o away_o the_o force_n of_o our_o argument_n we_o may_v evidence_n these_o way_n 1._o because_o the_o impossibility_n of_o every_o apostle_n look_v to_o all_o the_o church_n be_v the_o reason_n which_o himself_o give_v pag._n 7_o 8._o why_o they_o do_v it_o not_o but_o our_o argument_n be_v draw_v from_o a_o command_n to_o ordinary_a officer_n fix_v in_o a_o particular_a church_n all_o which_o it_o be_v possible_a for_o they_o actual_o to_o feed_v and_o so_o the_o case_n run_v not_o parallel_v and_o that_o a_o universal_a church_n shall_v be_v their_o flock_n the_o hundred_o it_o may_v be_v the_o thousand_o part_n whereof_o by_o reason_n of_o their_o fixedness_n in_o a_o particular_a church_n they_o can_v never_o feed_v and_o yet_o be_v command_v to_o feed_v all_o their_o flock_n who_o can_v imagine_v it_o or_o do_v not_o such_o a_o command_v rather_o determine_v their_o particular_a flock_n to_o be_v all_o over_o which_o they_o be_v make_v overseer_n 2._o because_o the_o apostle_n have_v immediate_a direction_n from_o god_n which_o give_v they_o a_o dispensation_n for_o a_o actual_a feed_v every_o church_n 3._o because_o if_o every_o apostle_n be_v not_o command_v actual_o to_o feed_v all_o that_o flock_n or_o all_z those_o church_n that_o they_o have_v liberty_n by_o their_o commission_n to_o act_v as_o officer_n towards_o seeing_z every_o ordinary_a officer_n be_v command_v to_o feed_v all_o the_o flock_n he_o be_v a_o overseer_n to_o acts._n 20._o 28._o hence_o his_o suppose_a unanswerable_a reason_n fail_v in_o the_o main_a thing_n it_o shall_v prove_v if_o mat._n 28._o 19_o 20._o be_v speak_v to_o this_o or_o that_o apostle_n single_o than_o that_o be_v a_o command_n of_o actual_a teach_n and_o baptise_v every_o apostle_n be_v oblige_v actual_o to_o feed_v or_o teach_v all_o nation_n and_o then_o his_o minor_a be_v untrue_a but_o if_o it_o be_v speak_v to_o all_o the_o apostle_n together_o v._o 16._o 19_o 20._o then_o if_o every_o apostle_n be_v not_o oblige_v actual_o to_o feed_v all_o church_n or_o all_o nation_n yet_o all_o the_o apostle_n together_o do_v actual_o feed_v all_o the_o church_n in_o that_o age_n and_o be_v oblige_v to_o do_v it_o and_o all_o officer_n together_o in_o after_o age_n be_v under_o the_o like_a obligation_n yet_o no_o one_o ordinary_a officer_n be_v oblige_v actual_o to_o teach_v all_o nation_n but_o every_o one_o be_v bind_v to_o feed_v all_o the_o flock_n over_o which_o he_o be_v make_v a_o overseer_n arg._n 2._o if_o officer_n now_o be_v actual_o to_o feed_v and_o take_v care_n of_o all_o the_o universal_a church_n than_o their_o power_n be_v as_o extensive_a &_o large_a as_o the_o apostle_n etc._n etc._n pr●_n sent._n p._n 11._o obj._n the_o difference_n between_o apostolical_a and_o pastoral_a power_n lie_v not_o in_o the_o extent_n of_o their_o relation_n but_o in_o the_o independency_n superiority_n and_o singularity_n of_o jurisdiction_n mr._n pool_n pag._n 36._o answ_n 1._o if_o this_o be_v true_a yet_o it_o prove_v what_o we_o produce_v it_o for_o viz._n that_o no_o ordinary_a officer_n be_v command_v actual_o to_o feed_v and_o take_v heed_n to_o all_o the_o unisal_n church_n for_o himself_o grant_v pag._n 6._o that_o it_o be_v peculiar_a to_o the_o apostle_n to_o be_v actual_o minister_n to_o the_o whole_a church_n 2._o but_o that_o the_o difference_n between_o apostolical_a and_o pastoral_a power_n lie_v not_o in_o the_o extent_n of_o their_o relation_n seem_v to_o we_o very_o false_a for_o 1._o apostle_n have_v universality_n of_o jurisdiction_n ergo_fw-la apostles_n have_v generality_n of_o relation_n ordinary_a officer_n have_v not_o universality_n of_o jurisdiction_n ergo_fw-la ordinary_a officer_n have_v not_o generality_n of_o relation_n nomans_n jurisdiction_n can_v be_v extend_v beyond_o his_o relation_n and_o therefore_o none_o can_v deny_v the_o apostle_n universality_n of_o relation_n and_o that_o ordinary_a officer_n have_v so_o extensive_a a_o jurisdiction_n let_v he_o prove_v that_o will_v assert_v it_o 2._o as_o apostles_n have_v general_a relation_n so_o they_o be_v under_o obligation_n to_o actual_a discharge_n of_o the_o duty_n of_o the_o relation_n in_o like_a extent_n 2_o corin._n 11._o 28._o and_o so_o be_v the_o church_n towards_o they_o but_o ordinary_a officer_n be_v not_o under_o a_o obligation_n for_o the_o actual_a discharge_n of_o the_o duty_n of_o their_o relation_n to_o all_o church_n as_o we_o have_v already_o prove_v from_o act_n 20_o 28._o 1_o pet._n 5._o 2._o neither_o be_v all_o church_n under_o such_o obligation_n to_o duty_n towards_o they_o as_o their_o officer_n either_o ●o_o submit_v or_o afford_v maintenance_n etc._n etc._n to_o they_o and_o therefore_o ordinary_a officer_n relation_n do_v not_o extend_v to_o all_o church_n 3._o apostle_n general_a relation_n oblige_v they_o to_o a_o itinerant_a execution_n of_o their_o office_n so_o as_o they_o can_v not_o fix_v in_o any_o church_n but_o ordinary_a officer_n be_v not_o engage_v to_o such_o a_o execution_n but_o by_o divine_a appointment_n be_v fix_v in_o some_o one_o church_n and_o be_v bind_v there_o to_o reside_v which_o be_v inconsistent_a with_o such_o a_o relation_n as_o the_o apostle_n have_v 4._o the_o general_a relation_n of_o the_o apostle_n be_v so_o special_a as_o all_o church_n may_v plead_v a_o like_a interest_n in_o they_o and_o call_v they_o their_o officer_n with_o ordinary_a officer_n it_o be_v not_o so_o our_o brethren_n themselves_o be_v judge_n jus_fw-la diu._n min._n pag._n 143._o if_o ordinary_a officer_n be_v not_o equal_o relate_v to_o all_o church_n they_o be_v not_o at_o all_o relate_v to_o they_o for_o relation_n do_v not_o suscipere_fw-la magis_fw-la &_o minus_fw-la unless_o the_o subject_n or_o foundation_n be_v mutable_a arg._n 3._o minister_n be_v pastor_n only_o to_o they_o who_o they_o can_v exercise_v church_n government_n towards_o as_o well_o as_o teach_v obj._n then_o the_o apostle_n do_v not_o preach_v as_o officer_n to_o heathen_n for_o towards_o such_o they_o can_v not_o exercise_v church-governement_n mr._n pool_n p._n 37._o ans_fw-fr if_o apostles_n do_v preach_v as_o officer_n over_o heathen_n it_o do_v arise_v from_o the_o extraordinariness_n of_o their_o office_n for_o no_o ordinary_a officer_n civil_a or_o military_a can_v act_v as_o officer_n towards_o any_o that_o they_o can_v govern_v and_o have_v the_o rule_n over_o and_o be_v over_o other_o in_o the_o lord_n be_v make_v the_o specificate_a distinguish_a character_n of_o ordinary_a officer_n from_o such_o as_o
be_v true_a we_o full_o prove_v and_o that_o they_o may_v preach_v for_o trial_n sake_n undeniable_o evidence_v that_o the_o gospel_n ow_v a_o preach_a by_o gift_n as_o well_o as_o by_o office_n or_o else_o neither_o election_n nor_o ordination_n do_v constitute_v officer_n for_o they_o have_v neither_o of_o these_o and_o if_o he_o will_v grant_v that_o gift_a man_n may_v preach_v until_o they_o have_v election_n from_o a_o church_n which_o they_o can_v accept_v of_o we_o can_v grant_v that_o then_o they_o be_v to_o submit_v unto_o ordination_n there_o be_v not_o a_o syllable_n in_o scripture_n for_o ordination_n before_o election_n and_o therefore_o a_o man_n may_v preach_v many_o year_n without_o ordination_n if_o he_o want_v election_n all_o that_o time_n and_o may_v plead_v a_o case_n of_o necessity_n as_o well_o as_o he_o that_o preach_v mere_o for_o trial_n sake_n for_o its_o necessary_a a_o man_n shall_v remain_v un-ordained_n until_o he_o can_v take_v up_o ordination_n in_o a_o gospel_n way_n and_o order_n argu._n 2._o our_o second_o argument_n be_v take_v from_o gospel_n command_v 1_o pet._n 4._o 10._o 11._o obj._n 1_o it_o may_v look_v backward_o and_o relate_v to_o hospitality_n it_o may_v look_v forward_o and_o relate_v to_o speak_v and_o minister_a and_o the_o word_n will_v bear_v either_o sense_n but_o both_o sense_n it_o it_o shall_v be_v they_o can_v bear_v that_o be_v a_o undoubted_a truth_n that_o sensus_fw-la unius_fw-la loci_fw-la literalis_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la nisi_fw-la unicus_fw-la etc._n etc._n mr._n poole_n pag._n 44._o answ_n 1._o let_v the_o reader_n observe_v that_o the_o provin_n assem_fw-la in_o their_o jus_fw-la divin_n min_n pag._n 101._o tell_v we_o express_o that_o they_o do_v not_o limit_v the_o word_n gift_n in_o the_o text_n as_o some_o do_v only_o to_o the_o gift_n of_o liberality_n but_o extend_v it_o to_o all_o endowment_n of_o nature_n yea_o to_o all_o spiritual_a gift_n etc._n etc._n and_o it_o be_v not_o fair_a for_o 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three_o verse_n after_o 1_o tim._n 2._o 15._o do_v not_o concern_v all_o woman_n but_o only_o those_o that_o have_v husband_n 4._o that_o church_n authority_n be_v intend_v he_o assert_v but_o have_v not_o prove_v 5._o woman_n may_v usurp_v authority_n though_o it_o be_v not_o over_o husband_n or_o in_o teach_v public_o and_o therefore_o their_o argument_n hence_o be_v without_o proof_n though_o the_o man_n be_v not_o only_o her_o husband_n but_o any_o man_n as_o to_o what_o he_o add_v pag._n 109._o it_o concern_v not_o we_o and_o be_v so_o far_o from_o a_o improvement_n of_o our_o argument_n to_o the_o high_a that_o at_o the_o low_a it_o will_v be_v more_o conclusive_a but_o see_v he_o have_v mention_v it_o we_o shall_v say_v thus_o much_o to_o it_o it_o precept_n express_v be_v prohibition_n by_o consequence_n as_o mr._n pool_n say_v they_o be_v pag._n 98_o 99_o then_o a_o pari_fw-la exception_n express_a be_v concession_n by_o consequence_n and_o so_o the_o except_v woman_n in_o 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reprove_v un-called_n man_n for_o preach_v jerem._n 23._o 21_o 22._o i_o send_v they_o not_o etc._n etc._n to_o part_v of_o our_o answer_n unto_o this_o he_o repli_v thus_o ob._n 1._o this_o be_v a_o little_a too_o gross_a to_o say_v they_o be_v by_o god_n call_v to_o be_v prophet_n of_o who_o god_n profess_v they_o run_v but_o he_o send_v they_o not_o the_o prophet_n have_v no_o other_o call_v then_o this_o or_o at_o least_o this_o be_v god_n usual_a way_n of_o call_v they_o be_v immediate_o inspire_v they_o with_o a_o extraordinary_a message_n 1_o sam._n 3._o 20._o mr._n pool_n p._n 111._o answ_n 1._o send_v do_v not_o make_v prophet_n samuel_n have_v a_o revelation_n yet_o be_v not_o send_v to_o eli_n to_o declare_v it_o he_o be_v force_v to_o draw_v it_o out_o 1_o sam._n 3._o 17._o yet_o samuel_n be_v a_o prophet_n as_o appear_v v._o 20._o jeremiah_n be_v send_v jerem._n 26._o 12._o the_o lord_n send_v i_o to_o prophesy_v against_o this_o house_n and_o against_o this_o city_n all_o the_o word_n that_o you_o have_v hear_v yet_o jeremiah_n be_v a_o prophet_n before_o this_o send_n and_o not_o make_v a_o prophet_n by_o it_o so_o those_o 2_o cron._n 24._o 19_o be_v send_v after_o they_o be_v prophet_n so_o that_o the_o prophet_n have_v a_o new_a mission_n as_o often_o as_o god_n command_v they_o to_o go_v with_o any_o new_a message_n to_o any_o people_n and_o be_v so_o often_o make_v prophet_n if_o send_v be_v as_o he_o suppose_v their_o call_n therefore_o god_n profess_v that_o they_o run_v and_o he_o send_v they_o not_o do_v not_o deny_v they_o to_o be_v prophet_n because_o send_v be_v not_o the_o call_v 2._o there_o be_v a_o send_v which_o do_v not_o authorise_v or_o give_v a_o call_n to_o office_n as_o himself_o confess_v p._n 83._o 87._o and_o let_v he_o prove_v that_o their_o not_o be_v send_v be_v their_o not_o be_v authorize_v to_o be_v prophet_n else_o the_o argument_n be_v vain_a 3._o those_o that_o be_v authorize_v and_o call_v by_o god_n to_o be_v 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now_o he_o have_v a_o word_n from_o god_n to_o declare_v and_o so_o be_v call_v to_o be_v a_o prophet_n yet_o ver_fw-la 18._o he_o run_v without_o be_v send_v so_o that_o as_o a_o false_a prophet_n may_v carry_v a_o truth_n so_o a_o true_a prophet_n may_v carry_v a_o lie_n we_o grant_v preacher_n send_v pag._n 128._o that_o those_o jerem._n 23._o be_v false_a prophet_n in_o respect_n of_o their_o doctrine_n which_o they_o then_o preach_v but_o we_o still_o apprehend_v that_o they_o be_v stand_v prophet_n of_o israel_n and_o true_a prophet_n in_o respect_n of_o their_o call_n and_o we_o prove_v it_o from_o v
that_o be_v much_o more_o they_o be_v moderator_n therein_o object_n 3._o they_o ordain_v who_o go_v away_o commend_v the_o people_n to_o the_o lord_n pag._n 125._o ans_fw-fr paul_n and_o barnabas_n for_o aught_o we_o see_v be_v they_o that_o be_v commend_v and_o the_o church_n the_o person_n commend_v they_o to_o the_o lord_n as_o we_o have_v further_o show_v in_o answer_n to_o dr._n collings_n we_o do_v not_o insist_v so_o much_o upon_o its_o reference_n to_o ver_fw-la 22._o but_o as_o strange_a reference_n be_v find_v in_o scripture_n as_o to_o the_o faint_a conclusion_n which_o he_o mention_v pag._n 126._o we_o firm_o prove_v preacher_n send_v pag._n 231._o 232._o that_o it_o can_v be_v mean_v of_o a_o choose_n or_o ordain_v only_o by_o paul_n and_o barnabas_n and_o that_o be_v enough_o against_o he_o prayer_n use_v in_o manage_v election_n be_v no_o essential_a act_n thereof_o as_o it_o be_v of_o ordination_n and_o so_o the_o tautology_n do_v not_o remain_v on_o our_o part_n as_o he_o suppose_v pag._n 127._o the_o scripture_n neither_o use_v such_o tautology_n nor_o express_v imposition_n of_o hand_n by_o that_o word_n which_o signify_v quite_o another_o thing_n our_o present_a work_n be_v to_o deny_v that_o paul_n and_o barnabas_n only_o do_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o what_o we_o say_v if_o grant_v will_v evince_v this_o and_o this_o answer_v what_o be_v say_v pag_n 127._o what_o we_o have_v reply_v to_o dr._n collings_n about_o church_n fitness_n to_o judge_v of_o ministerial_a ability_n will_v answer_v his_o exception_n pag._n 128._o 129._o we_o shall_v add_v a_o few_o word_n in_o the_o next_o chapter_n chap._n xiii_o concern_v election_n as_o essential_a to_o a_o call_v to_o office_n the_o second_o question_n be_v whether_o the_o essence_n of_o a_o call_v to_o office_n lie_v in_o election_n or_o ordination_n we_o prove_v it_o to_o be_v in_o election_n our_o first_o argument_n be_v ground_v upon_o act._n 14._o 23._o and_o be_v vindicate_v already_o that_o the_o essence_n of_o the_o call_n lie_v not_o in_o ordination_n we_o prove_v divers_a way_n argu._n 1._o ordination_n do_v not_o set_v a_o man_n over_o a_o church_n ergo_fw-la object_n 1._o this_o be_v but_o a_o beg_a the_o question_n pag._n 131._o ans_fw-fr there_o be_v not_o a_o word_n of_o set_v over_o a_o church_n by_o ordination_n in_o the_o question_n it_o be_v a_o apt_a medium_n that_o which_o give_v the_o essence_n of_o the_o call_n do_v set_v over_o a_o church_n ordination_n do_v not_o set_v over_o a_o church_n for_o 1._o a_o man_n may_v be_v ordain_v and_o yet_o be_v over_o no_o church_n at_o all_o 2._o if_o it_o do_v then_o there_o must_v be_v a_o iteration_n of_o ordination_n both_o these_o we_o prove_v preacher_n send_v pag._n 246._o 247._o etc._n etc._n ergo_fw-la ordination_n do_v not_o give_v the_o essence_n o●_n the_o call_n obj._n 2._o election_n may_v be_v necessary_a as_o the_o causa_fw-la sine_fw-la q●a_fw-la non_fw-la and_o yet_o ordination_n may_v be_v the_o causa_fw-la formalis_fw-la of_o the_o call_v pag._n 131._o answ_n 1._o that_o which_o make_v a_o superior_a and_o inferior_a be_v the_o causa_fw-la formalis_fw-la of_o office-power_n and_o that_o which_o set_v over_o a_o church_n do_v so_o and_o therefore_o must_v needs_o be_v more_o than_o a_o causa_fw-la sine_fw-la qua_fw-la non_fw-la even_o the_o cause_n formalis_fw-la of_o office-power_n that_o which_o set_v a_o man_n over_o a_o woman_n as_o her_o head_n be_v the_o causa_fw-la formalis_fw-la of_o the_o conjugal_a relation_n that_o which_o set_v over_o servant_n be_v the_o causa_fw-la formalis_fw-la of_o the_o relation_n of_o a_o master_n so_o here_o 2._o his_o instance_n can_v help_v he_o to_o that_o of_o presentation_n we_o say_v 1._o the_o magna_fw-la charta_fw-la of_o christ_n empower_v a_o church_n to_o elect_n without_o submission_n unto_o other_o man_n 2._o in_o such_o a_o case_n the_o essence_n be_v convey_v in_o election_n the_o gentleman_n approbation_n or_o representation_n be_v only_o a_o causa_fw-la sine_fw-la qua_fw-la non_fw-la exercitii_fw-la 3._o the_o instance_n be_v impertinent_a because_o it_o prove_v not_o a_o call_n to_o office_n but_o a_o civil_a call_n as_o to_o that_o of_o arch-bishop_n it_o be_v a_o beg_v the_o question_n that_o his_o call_n do_v lie_v in_o consecration_n the_o king_n do_v write_v to_o certain_a bishop_n to_o confirm_v the_o election_n now_o confirmation_n follow_v creation_n nor_o can_v the_o essence_n of_o the_o call_v be_v in_o it_o ob._n 3._o his_o ordination_n set_v he_o over_o a_o church_n indefinite_o his_o election_n set_v he_o over_o this_o or_o that_o particular_a church_n pag._n 132._o answ_n 1._o three_o argument_n we_o give_v against_o this_o preacher_n sent._n pag._n 248_o 249._o which_o be_v unanswered_a 2._o we_o will_v know_v which_o set_v over_o give_v the_o call_n to_o exercise_v office-power_n that_o which_o give_v operari_fw-la give_v esse_fw-la man_n can_v challenge_v neither_o audience_n nor_o maintenance_n until_o a_o call_v to_o exercise_v it_o be_v a_o strange_a paradox_n that_o one_o shall_v be_v set_v over_o the_o catholic_a church_n when_o yet_o he_o may_v just_o be_v deny_v a_o liberty_n to_o exercrse_v office-power_n in_o any_o particular_a church_n 3._o his_o instance_n of_o a_o dr._n of_o physic_n be_v impertinent_a physician_n be_v not_o ruler_n be_v not_o over_o any_o by_o a_o choice_n or_o otherwise_o neither_o be_v there_o a_o parity_n between_o academical_a and_o ecclesiastical_a preferment_n arg._n 2._o our_o second_o argument_n be_v from_o ordination_n be_v consequential_a to_o a_o man_n have_v the_o essence_n of_o the_o call_v to_o office_n act_v 13._o 2_o 3._o ob._n 1._o there_o be_v a_o ordination_n ad_fw-la munus_fw-la to_o a_o office_n and_o another_o ad_fw-la opus_fw-la to_o a_o work_n this_o text_n speak_v of_o ordination_n to_o a_o work_n pag._n 132._o answ_n we_o believe_v that_o the_o apostle_n have_v no_o ordination_n to_o office_n but_o only_o to_o office-work_n and_o therefore_o his_o ordination_n which_o come_v after_o do_v not_o give_v his_o call_n to_o office_n no_o more_o do_v it_o give_v it_o to_o any_o gospel_n officer_n in_o a_o proper_a sense_n ob._n 2._o they_o gassert_v that_o the_o essence_n of_o the_o call_n lie_v in_o election_n and_o to_o urge_v this_o they_o urge_v the_o election_n of_o a_o apostle_n act_v 1._o as_o in_o that_o election_n so_o in_o this_o ordination_n some_o thing_n be_v extraordinary_a and_o peculiar_a to_o the_o apostle_n viz._n that_o the_o essence_n of_o their_o call_n do_v not_o lie_v in_o this_o ordination_n pag_n 133._o answ_n 1._o this_o be_v a_o gross_a mistake_n for_o we_o do_v not_o as_o he_o injurious_o report_v urge_v the_o election_n of_o a_o apostle_n act._n 1._o to_o prove_v that_o the_o essence_n of_o the_o call_n lie_v in_o election_n we_o plain_o deny_v it_o preacher_n sent._n pag._n 267_o 268._o though_o we_o improve_v their_o objection_n from_o that_o text_n against_o themselves_o it_o be_v to_o prove_v another_o proposition_n that_o we_o urge_v act_n 1._o viz._n that_o the_o power_n of_o election_n belong_v to_o a_o church_n preacher_n sent._n pag._n 216._o and_o therefore_o mr._n pool_n argument_n pag._n 133_o be_v nothing_o to_o we_o 2._o that_o it_o can_v be_v no_o good_a plea_n in_o this_o case_n to_o say_v it_o be_v extraordinory_n in_o that_o particular_a we_o prove_v preacher_n sent._n pag._n 252._o etc._n etc._n 255_o 256._o and_o that_o it_o shall_v be_v a_o complete_a ordination_n in_o all_o the_o act_n and_o requisite_n belong_v to_o it_o and_o yet_o not_o attain_v the_o main_a end_n which_o ●e_n suppose_v be_v the_o giving_z the_o essence_n of_o a_o call_n to_o office_n who_o will_v believe_v it_o the_o apostle_n need_v not_o ordination_n if_o the_o use_n of_o that_o have_v be_v to_o give_v the_o essence_n of_o a_o call_n 3._o this_o clear_o prove_v that_o a_o call_v to_o office_n and_o ordination_n be_v separable_a a_o call_n may_v be_v as_o here_o before_o and_o yet_o a_o complete_a ordination_n in_o all_o its_o act_n come_v afterward_o and_o therefore_o the_o intendment_n of_o ordination_n be_v not_o to_o give_v the_o essence_n unto_o a_o call_n to_o office_n ob._n 5._o peradventure_o paul_n have_v the_o essence_n of_o his_o call_n from_o his_o ordination_n man_n be_v use_v as_o instrument_n yet_o to_o speak_v proper_o it_o be_v not_o man_n but_o god_n that_o be_v paul_n ordainer_n for_o the_o holy_a ghost_n say_v separate_v i_o etc._n etc._n pag._n 135._o ans_fw-fr 1._o this_o be_v gross_a for_o paul_n be_v a_o apostle_n divers_a year_n before_o this_o ordination_n that_o be_v after_o he_o have_v be_v at_o jerusalem_n act_v 12._o 25._o and_o 13._o v._o 2_o 3._o but_o god_n have_v reveal_v christ_n in_o he_o and_o make_v he_o a_o apostle_n above_o three_o year_n before_o
correlate_n of_o the_o pastoral_n office_n ib._n 3._o he_o say_v of_o a_o excomunicate_a person_n that_o while_o he_o repent_v not_o he_o be_v to_o be_v look_v upon_o after_o a_o sort_n as_o a_o unbaptised_a person_n or_o as_o a_o heathen_a yet_o when_o he_o do_v repent_v he_o need_v no_o new_a baptism_n forasmuch_o as_o god_n be_v please_v to_o impute_v to_o he_o his_o former_a baptism_n pa._n 27._o 4._o he_o say_v that_o the_o difference_n between_o apostolical_a and_o pastoral_a power_n lie_v not_o in_o the_o extent_n of_o their_o relation_n pa._n 36._o 5._o he_o say_v vzzah_n be_v punish_v not_o principal_o at_o least_o not_o sole_o because_o he_o do_v touch_v the_o ark_n with_o his_o head_n but_o because_o he_o do_v not_o bear_v it_o upon_o his_o shoulder_n pag._n 99_o which_o be_v against_o 1_o chron._n 13._o 10._o 6._o he_o be_v not_o positive_a in_o it_o but_o give_v it_o as_o his_o opinion_n that_o apostle_n have_v not_o their_o commission_n as_o apostle_n till_o mat._n 28._o pag._n 105_o 106._o 2._o self-contradicting_a passage_n 1._o that_o a_o man_n be_v make_v a_o member_n of_o the_o church_n by_o baptism_n be_v none_o of_o our_o assertion_n pag._n 23._o 1._o what_o a_o monstrous_a paradox_n be_v this_o baptism_n make_v not_o a_o man_n to_o stand_v in_o relation_n to_o any_o church_n p._n 28._o in_o scripture_n there_o be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d quidem_fw-la of_o any_o other_o door_n of_o admission_n p._n 25._o 2._o either_o a_o minister_n eject_v a_o man_n just_o out_o of_o his_o own_o church_n eject_v he_o out_o of_o all_o other_o church_n or_o he_o be_v juridical_o eject_v out_o of_o other_o church_n and_o so_o he_o be_v in_o a_o capacity_n of_o be_v receive_v into_o other_o church_n which_o what_o horrid_a confusion_n it_o will_v introduce_v etc._n etc._n pag._n 24._o 2._o it_o may_v be_v say_v that_o a_o excomunicate_a person_n ordinary_o be_v a_o member_n a_o church-member_n though_o disease_v p._n 26_o 3._o if_o a_o religious_a general_n in_o speak_v to_o his_o army_n principal_o aim_v at_o the_o salvation_n of_o their_o soul_n yet_o this_o be_v not_o preach_v though_o his_o end_n in_o speak_v be_v their_o salvation_n pag._n 41._o 3._o speak_v of_o paul_n he_o say_v the_o end_n of_o the_o actor_n or_o speaker_n be_v pure_o &_o sole_o the_o salvation_n of_o their_o soul_n &_o so_o it_o be_v tru_o and_o may_v proper_o be_v call_v preach_v p._n 41_o 42._o 4._o the_o less_o be_v call_v of_o the_o great_a pag._n 138._o we_o never_o find_v ordination_n practise_v either_o in_o the_o old_a or_o new_a testament_n but_o by_o person_n in_o authority_n towards_o their_o inferior_n pag._n 160._o 4._o he_o say_v it_o be_v not_o any_o prejudice_n to_o the_o extraordinarines_n of_o timothy_n office_n that_o it_o be_v confer_v by_o ordinary_a officer_n pag._n 149._o what_o more_o ordinary_a both_o in_o state_n and_o church_n then_o for_o a_o person_n to_o have_v a_o office_n convey_v to_o he_o viz._n ministerial_o by_o such_o as_o be_v inferior_a to_o he_o p._n 149._o 3_o repugnancy_n to_o the_o provincial_a assembly_n and_o dr._n collings_n 1._o every_o minister_n by_o excommunication_n eject_v member_n out_o of_o the_o church_n catholic_n visi_fw-la ble_n jus._n divin_n min._n pag._n 139._o 1._o it_o may_v be_v say_v a_o excommunicate_a person_n ordinary_o be_v a_o member_n a_o churchmember_v though_o disease_v mr_n pool_n pag._n 26._o 2._o they_o i._n e._n apostle_n and_o evangilist_n be_v virtual_o pastor_n and_o teacher_n they_o differ_v nothing_o from_o they_o but_o the_o extent_n of_o their_o power_n dr._n collings_n pag._n 105_o 2._o the_o difference_n between_o apostolical_a and_o pastoral_a power_n lie_v not_o in_o the_o extent_n of_o their_o relation_n mr._n pool_n p._n 36._o  _fw-fr and_n he_o make_v pastor_n power_n as_o extensive_a as_o as_o he_o suppose_v their_o relation_n to_o be_v pag._n 6._o question_n discuss_v pr._n s._n note_v the_o preacher_n send_v vind._n note_v the_o precede_a treatise_n the_o number_n direct_v to_o the_o page_n in_o either_o of_o the_o treatise_n where_o the_o question_n be_v resolve_v 1._o whether_o there_o be_v a_o universal_a political_a visible_a church_n or_o whether_o there_o be_v a_o church_n of_o church_n a_o visible_a catholic_n church_n form_v unto_o fellowshi●p_n in_o new_a testament_n ordinance_n negate_fw-la epist_n to_o pr._n s._n p._n 4._o 5._o vind._n of_o epist_n 2._o whether_o visible_a saint_n be_v the_o only_a fit_a matter_n for_o a_o visible_a church_n aff._n epist._n to_o pr._n s._n p._n 6._o 3._o who_o be_v visible_a saint_n epist_n to_o pr._n s._n p._n 7._o 4._o whether_o a_o union_n by_o covenant_n consent_n or_o agreement_n be_v necessary_a unto_o memberhood_n in_o a_o visible_a church_n aff._n epist_n to_o pr._n s._n pag._n 9_o 5._o who_o may_v be_v style_v minister_n pr._n s._n pag._n 2_o vind._n p._n 1._o 6._o whether_o office_n be_v a_o relation_n to_o the_o work_n and_o employment_n of_o the_o ministry_n as_o be_v correlate_n or_o to_o a_o church_n preach_v sent._n 4._o vindicat._n pag._n 2._o etc._n etc._n 7._o whether_o office_n be_v a_o relation_n secundum_fw-la esse_fw-la or_o secundum_fw-la dici_fw-la vindicat._n p._n 4._o 5._o 8._o whether_o officer_n stand_v in_o relation_n as_o officer_n to_o a_o universal_a church_n neg._n whether_o to_o a_o particular_a church_n only_o aff_n whether_o to_o heathen_n and_o such_o as_o be_v of_o no_o church_n neg._n pre._n s._n 288._o vind._n p._n 12_o 13._o etc._n etc._n p._n 86._o etc._n etc._n 9_o what_o be_v office_n pr._n s._n 14._o 10_o whether_o there_o be_v a_o difference_n between_o preach_v ex_fw-la officio_fw-la and_o ex_fw-la dono_n aff_n preach_v s._n 18._o 11._o whether_o unbeliever_n may_v come_v into_o churchm●●●ings_n to_o hear_v the_o word_n aff._n pr._n s._n 18._o 12._o what_o be_v preach_v pr._n s._n 20._o 13._o whether_o it_o be_v preach_v when_o in_o private_a aff_n pr._n 8._o 21._o 14._o whether_o it_o be_v preach_v when_o it_o be_v not_o in_o a_o sacred_a assembly_n aff._n pr._n s._n p._n 22_o 23._o 15._o what_o be_v authoritative_a preach_n preach_v s._n 25._o to_o 28._o 16._o whether_o person_n who_o have_v preach_v gift_n and_o grace_n may_v ordinary_o exercise_v those_o gift_n in_o public_a assembly_n though_o they_o be_v not_o ordain_v officer_n affirm_v preach_v s._n 29._o to_o 216._o vind._n pag._n 21._o etc._n etc._n 125._o etc._n etc._n 17._o whether_o election_n ought_v to_o precede_v ordination_n aff._n pr._n s._n 30._o 18._o what_o call_n be_v sufficient_a to_o the_o exercise_n of_o preach_v gift_n pr._n s._n 37._o vind._n 26._o 19_o whether_o from_o gift_a man_n preach_v it_o will_v follow_v that_o gift_a woman_n may_v preach_v or_o that_o man_n gift_v for_o any_o civil_a or_o military_a employment_n may_v act_n therein_o without_o any_o further_o call_v neg._n pr._n s._n 38_o 39_o vind._n 29._o 20._o whether_o it_o belong_v to_o the_o sphere_n place_n and_o call_n of_o gift_a man_n to_o preach_v affirm_v preach_v s._n 40._o 21._o whether_o the_o baptism_n of_o john_n and_o the_o baptism_n of_o christ_n be_v distinguish_v and_o how_o pr._n s._n 69._o 70._o vind._n 66._o to_o 71._o 22._o whether_o teach_v and_o preach_v be_v in_o scripture_n phrase_n the_o same_o aff._n p._n 79._o pr._n s._n 23._o whether_o necessity_n be_v a_o good_a plea_n against_o the_o argument_n from_o act_v 8_o and_o whether_o the_o suppose_a necessity_n make_v officer_n or_o no_o pr._n s._n 86._o to_o 88_o vind._n 33_o 34_o 35._o 141._o 24._o whether_o the_o prophesy_a 1_o corin._n 14._o be_v a_o gift_n or_o a_o office_n preach_v sent._n 90._o vind._n 37._o 145._o whether_o it_o be_v a_o gift_n still_o continue_v aff._n p._n s._n 96._o vindicat._n p._n 41._o 148._o whether_o those_o prophet_n speak_v by_o extraordinary_a revelation_n neg._n preach_v s._n 104_o 105._o vind._n 46_o 151_o 152_o 153._o 25._o what_o be_v not_o and_o what_o be_v the_o mission_n or_o send_v rom._n 15._o preach_v sent._n 121_o to_o 138._o whether_o mission_n be_v ordination_n neg_fw-mi pr._n s._n 123._o vindic._n 63_o 64._o whether_o mission_n authorize_v or_o give_v a_o call_n to_o be_v a_o officer_n or_o to_o preach_v neg_fw-mi pr._n s._n 121._o vindicat_fw-la 156._o 159_o 160._o 26._o whether_o the_o example_n of_o saul_n offer_v sacrifice_n or_o vzzahs_n touch_v the_o ark_n do_v forbid_v gift_v man_n preach_v neg._n pr._n s._n 154_o 155._o vindicat_fw-la 164_o 165._o 27._o whether_o gift_a man_n preach_v do_v make_v officer_n void_a or_o un-necessary_a as_o to_o that_o act_n neg._n pr._n s._n 156._o vindicat_fw-la 55_o 56_o 57_o 28_o whether_o if_o gift_a man_n may_v preach_v will_v it_o follow_v that_o they_o may_v administer_v the_o sacrament_n neg._n pr._n s._n 165_o vind._n 169._o 170._o 29._o whether_o gift_a
their_o relation_n must_v be_v towards_o those_o among_o who_o their_o great_a work_n lie_v mr._n pool_n pag._n 17._o ans_fw-fr 1._o we_o suppose_v he_o intend_v that_o they_o be_v relate_v to_o heathen_n as_o their_o correlate_n else_o he_o speak_v nothing_o to_o the_o question_n and_o then_o 2._o his_o major_n may_v fair_o be_v deny_v the_o fight_v with_o enemy_n etc._n etc._n be_v the_o principal_a ground_n and_o end_n why_o the_o office_n of_o colonel_n captain_n and_o other_o leader_n of_o army_n be_v appoint_v and_o their_o principal_a work_n yet_o those_o enemy_n to_o be_v fight_v with_o be_v not_o the_o correlate_n to_o the_o office_n of_o colonel_n captain_n etc._n etc._n it_o be_v a_o regiment_n that_o be_v the_o correlate_n to_o the_o office_n of_o a_o colonel_n and_o a_o troop_n or_o company_n that_o be_v the_o correlate_n to_o the_o office_n of_o a_o captain_n and_o so_o heathen_n to_o be_v preach_v to_o be_v not_o the_o correlate_n to_o the_o office_n of_o the_o ministry_n but_o particular_a church_n the_o instance_n of_o colonel_n etc._n etc._n show_v that_o a_o man_n great_a work_n may_v lie_v among_o those_o that_o their_o relation_n be_v not_o towards_o 3._o as_o to_o the_o minor_a that_o conversion_n of_o heathen_n and_o such_o as_o be_v without_o the_o church_n be_v a_o great_a work_n of_o officer_n qua_fw-la gift_v may_v be_v grant_v but_o that_o it_o be_v their_o principal_a work_n qua_fw-la officer_n those_o text_n mat._n 28._o and_o eph._n 4._o prove_v not_o the_o office_n of_o pastor_n be_v not_o institute_v until_o church_n be_v constitute_v have_v conversion_n of_o heathen_n be_v their_o principal_a work_n the_o institution_n of_o they_o before_o will_v have_v be_v as_o necessary_a as_o then_o and_o that_o officer_n and_o other_o qua_fw-la gift_v be_v appoint_v by_o christ_n to_o preach_v unto_o unbeliever_n this_o sufficient_o manife_v christ_n care_n for_o that_o great_a work_n the_o conversion_n of_o sinner_n though_o they_o do_v not_o act_v as_o officer_n in_o their_o conversion_n thus_o we_o have_v answer_v his_o argument_n against_o this_o assertion_n that_o minister_n be_v officer_n only_o to_o their_o own_o congregation_n the_o provincial_a assembly_n use_v divers_a argument_n which_o we_o answer_v and_o mr._n pool_n seek_v to_o indicate_v we_o shall_v brief_o reply_v to_o his_o most_o material_a xception_n they_o object_v that_o we_o receive_v member_n of_o other_o congregation_n to_o the_o sacrament_n yet_o the_o administration_n of_o that_o be_v a_o ministerial_a act_n and_o can_v be_v do_v but_o by_o a_o pastor_n or_o teacher_n mr._n pool_n be_v so_o disturb_v at_o our_o answer_n to_o this_o that_o he_o say_v p._n 20._o he_o question_n not_o but_o any_o judicious_a reader_n will_v quick_o discern_v it_o how_o we_o be_v fall_v from_o our_o own_o principle_n and_o pag._n 21._o will_v have_v all_o man_n take_v notice_n of_o that_o and_o also_o that_o we_o have_v through_o incogitancy_n precipitate_v ourselves_o into_o the_o gulf_n of_o annabaptisme_n and_o he_o doubt_v not_o but_o we_o will_v retract_v it_o etc._n etc._n and_o all_o this_o because_o we_o say_v if_o they_o perform_v these_o act_n to_o any_o not_o of_o their_o own_o congregation_n they_o do_v not_o act_v as_o past_a over_o as_o officer_n to_o they_o therein_o ans_fw-fr we_o see_v no_o ground_n to_o retract_v what_o we_o have_v say_v in_o this_o matter_n and_o we_o think_v any_o unprejudiced_a reader_n who_o shall_v view_v our_o whole_a answer_n to_o their_o objection_n preach_v sent._n pag._n 278_o 279_o 280._o will_v apprehend_v that_o there_o be_v more_o strength_n in_o mr._n pool_n flourish_v of_o word_n to_o dazzle_v the_o eye_n of_o the_o weak_a then_o of_o argument_n to_o convince_v the_o judicious_a that_o we_o be_v in_o a_o error_n to_o clear_v the_o case_n 1._o we_o profess_v that_o it_o be_v when_o we_o write_v our_o former_a book_n and_o still_o be_v our_o judgement_n that_o the_o administration_n of_o the_o sacrament_n be_v a_o act_n which_o can_v be_v do_v but_o by_o a_o pastor_n or_o teacher_n none_o but_o a_o officer_n may_v perform_v this_o act_n 2._o yet_o we_o conceive_v a_o officer_n may_v administer_v the_o sacrament_n which_o be_v a_o common_a church_n privilege_n unto_o member_n of_o other_o church_n without_o be_v a_o officer_n over_o they_o for_o if_o any_o such_o relation_n as_o be_v between_o pastor_n and_o the_o member_n of_o his_o flock_n do_v arise_v upon_o that_o act_n than_o a_o obligation_n unto_o the_o mutual_a duty_n of_o the_o relation_n must_v follow_v also_o else_o all_o in_o a_o relation_n be_v not_o bind_v to_o the_o duty_n of_o it_o and_o who_o will_v say_v that_o pastor_n be_v to_o watch_v over_o the_o member_n of_o other_o church_n or_o that_o the_o lord_n have_v make_v they_o overseer_n of_o they_o or_o that_o such_o member_n be_v to_o aford_v maintenance_n etc._n etc._n to_o such_o pastor_n and_o if_o they_o be_v no_o officer_n over_o they_o they_o 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