one and the same Faith Why do not all believe the self same Articles and Divine Verities if the Scripture it self clearly and distinctly propose them to all Where the Rule is certain all that is measur'd by it is Uniform and of the same quantity As is manifest by a Pound by a Quart by an Ell by a Bushel and the like And therefore if the Scripture of it self without the help of any Interpreter be unto Men a sure Rule a certain and stinted measure of Faith it doth to all that Read or Hear it measure shape and square out one and the same Belief one and the same Religion one and the same Worship of God. But this is evidently false Ergo evidently also false it is that the Scripture of it self without the help of an Interpreter is a sure Rule and Guide in matters of Faith. For what is more manifest then that several Readers left to the guidance of the Scripture it self and not tyed to any Interpreter do gather out of it several and opposite Faiths and Religions though they use all Humane Diligences to understand them rightly and be never so Learn'd never so well skill'd in the Greek and Hebrew Tongues This is evident by the several branches of Protestants before-nam'd Who all take the Scripture it self as they say and pretend for their Guide and Director in matters of Faith and Religion And yet they differ and contend so infinitely as they do Which differing and contending we must not conceive to spring in them meerly from Malice and the Spirit of Contention But rather from the Obscurity of the Scripture and the depth and profundity of the Mysteries therein contain'd In which our weak understandings may easily mistake and may easily be deluded by the Devil if we want the help of a sure and Infallible Interpreter This I think understanding Protestants will not deny And therefore if they will have the Scripture to be a Sure Rule to direct their Faith and Religion by will they nill they they must admit of and adjoyn to the Scripture a sure un-erring and Infallible Interpreter thereof But such an one it is impossible for them to find unless they will leave the Protestant and return to the Catholick Faith again For seeing they reject the Interpretation of Fathers of Councels of the Ordinary Doctors and Pastors of the Church And hold that the Church of Christ may err yea and hath shamfully and perniciously err'd for above these thousand years where will they find an Vn-erring Interpreter of the Scripture Or in whom hath God plac'd this high most necessary and most important Office If he hath not placed it in the Doctors and Pastors of his Church which he hath ordain'd to Perfect his People and to keep them from wavering in matters of Faith Ephes 4. And which the Holy Ghost hath plac'd in the Flock of Christ Act. 20. To govern the Church of God Hath he placed it in the Temporal Magistrates of Kingdoms and Common-wealths Or in some one Temporal Magistrate to whom God hath committed the Teaching and directing of all Nations If God hath not placed this most needful Office in General Councels consisting of the Learned Sages and Prelates of the Church hath he plac'd it in the Parliaments of England consisting for the most part of unlearned Lay-men I think no Sober Protestant will say so Neither will any Vnderstanding Protestant I think fly here to the private Spirit And make thereby every Crack-brain'd Scripturist an Infallible Interpreter of Gods Word For if hither he fly not only a Quaker an Anabaptist a Presbyterian but a Taylor also a Button-maker Weaver or Cobler will make his Party good with any Doctor the Protestants have and dart Text for Text with him for whole Hours together without loosing one Inch of ground Till Church Authority the deadly Weapon of the Papists be urg'd against him By urging which against these Fanatick People Protestant Prelates do not a little or sleightly Wound themselves they being as blame-worthy indeed if not much more for resisting the Authority of the Catholick Church of Christ as these are for resisting the Authority of the Church of England Nevertheless I approve not but detest the Male-peart boldness of these and the like Ignorants Who transgressing the bounds to them prescrib'd and entring upon to their own Perdition the smoaking mount of the Holy Scriptures Exod. 19. wherein God doth speak to Moses and Aaron and deliver his Sacred Oracles to be by them made known to his People dare take upon them to interpret the same and to search into and Sense the Profound Mysteries of God wickedly betrampling with their Impure Feet and Polluting with their base Conceits those pure but deep Fountains of Heavenly Verities It being their Duty to Learn and not to Teach Yet I cannot but pitty their Mislead Zeal Which if it were steer'd by the True Church of Christ would Inrich their Souls with the precious Jewels of many Christian Virtues whereas now it is likely to be the utter ruine of them Neither can I but greatly blame those who to draw these weak and unwary People off and to seperate them from the Breast of the Catholick Church At which they were securely nourish'd with the Milk of Celestial Doctrine Meat befiting their state and Weakness did put the Bible into their Prophane Hands inviting them to the Gospel to the Pure Light and Liberty of the Gospel And assuring them that those Sacred Volumes were easie to be understood and that in them they were to seek for the Truth of Gods Religion as being ordain'd by him for the Reading and Instruction of all And to facilitate this desir'd separation those New Teachers spar'd not to Disgrace with all Art and Cunning the Rank and Dignity of the Prelates of the Church and to Vilify Church-Authority Proclaiming it to be Tyrannical And that to urge men to believe as the Church doth Teach was no less than plain Butchering of Consciences But when these New Masters had effected what they sought and by the help of Temporal Power had brought Multitudes of People under their Command Then presently they stept into the place of the Antient Prelates Took their Authority upon them and in matters of Faith and Religion would have all to dance after their Pipe all to believe not what they themselves Learn'd out of the Book of God but what these men thought fit to propose That Book now being too hard for Vulgar People for the Unlearn'd sort Who now must stand below and not ascend and enter upon that obscure and smoking Mountain But must hear Moses and Aaron must hear Authoriz'd Teachers must obey the voice of the Church viz. Of Saxony of Geneva of England and must follow in Saxony one Faith in Geneva another in England another Now they must learn the Law of God from the mouth of Teachers allow'd of by the Commonwealth and be ty'd to believe what they propose And therefore in Saxony
the Protestant Profession be Christ's True Religion and the Pure Light of his Gospel but hath ever made use to effect this admirable work of his Power and Mercy of the Blind and Superstitious Religion of the Papists That God for the space of above a thousand years in the Conversion of Heathen Nations and their Kings hath ever made use of Papistry is evident out of the Histories of former times which relates the Conversion of Nations Yea even in these latter times in which since the rising of the Protestant Religion the Faith of Christ hath been infinitely spread in the East and West-Indies and in divers vast Islands of the Sea amongst Heathen and Barbarous Nations God hath utterly neglected the True Religion and the pure Light of the Gospel that is the Protestant Religion And hath made use only of Papistry to make these Nations Blessed in Christ Now is not this a very likely thing if Papistry be a False and Protestancy the True Religion As likely certainly it is as that the Sea doth burn as that the Sun is dark and Snow black For to speak plain English If Protestancy be Gods Religion and Papistry the Devils in regard that God cannot in very deed be Author of both these Religions they being opposite and contrary one to the other How can God neglect the Protestant Religion and make use of Papistry to spread the Faith of his Son over the World to make thereby the Nations of the Earth Blessed in him Nay how can they be made Blessed in Christ by the help of the Devils Religion How can it become the Wisdom and Goodness of God to neglect his own Religion and to spread increase and exalt the Devils To neglect the True Light of the Gospel and to delude the Nations of the Earth with the Superstitions of Papistry Who then is so short and dim sighted that he doth not see that even from hence is most clearly prov'd that the Protestant Profession is not Gods Religion is not the Pure Light of the Gospel ordain'd by God to give Light to the Gentiles and to make them Blessed in Christ But a late and new Invention suggested by the Enemy of God to destroy in these Northern parts of the World that Religion which God made use of heretofore to root out Him and his Idolatrous Worship and to make these Nations Blessed in his Son I conclude then this Question with this Syllogism That is Gods Religion and the True Gospel and Doctrine of Christ which is Preached over the World to spread therein the Name and Faith of Christ for a Testimony to all Nations But Papistry and not Protestancy is so Preach'd over the World Ergo Papistry and not Protestancy is Gods Religion and the True Gospel and Doctrine of Christ The Major is certain and clear out of the Words of Christ Matth. 24. above-related The Minor is certain and also clear out of the Histories of former Times and also of this present Age. The conclusion follows well And so it rests demonstrated that the Holy Catholick Roman Faith Nick-nam'd Papistry is Gods Religion and the True Gospel of Christ Which will appear yet more clearly out of the Questions following Question V. Whether it be not a very inconsiderate thing and full of danger to prefer in matters of Faith and Religion the Teaching of Men before the Word of God ALthough the Arguments of the precedent Questions be firm and strong and sufficient to make Considerate Protestants to look about them yet many of them will be little mov'd therewith because they are possess'd with a strong imagination that Their Religion is grounded upon the word of God is squar'd out thereby and wholly or at least very much cleans'd from the Doctrines of men To free them from which false and dangerous Conceit and Perswasion I here demand Whether it be not a thing of great Inconsideration and of no small danger to prefer in matters of Faith and Religion the Teaching of Men the Doctrine of This or That Preacher before the Word of God Yea in effect to hazard and pawn ones Soul that the Teaching of these or those new Masters is truer and rather to be follow'd than the express word of God it self This will seem to Protestants a strange demand because they esteem Papists not a little culpable for relying too much upon the Doctrines of Men And therefore they will here bid me take my self by the Nose Nevertheless whatsoever they imagine I will easily here free Papists and prove them guilty of preferring the Doctrines of Men before the express Word of God. That Papists are not guilty of this Crime is clear enough First Because no Text of the Word of God taken in its proper Sense and as the Antient Fathers the general Councels the ever visible Catholick Church of Christ did take it doth directly contradict any Article held by the Roman Church For example no Text doth say that we are not justify'd by Faith and Good-Works That Works of Grace done in the state of Grace are not Meritorious That the Body of Christ is not really in the Holy Eucharist That Lawful Priests have not Power as Gods Instruments to Absolve from Sins rightly Confess'd That no Satisfaction is necessarily requir'd on our Parts That there is no Purgatory That it is not Lawful or Profitable to Pray to Saints to Honour them as Sanctify'd Creatures to respect Reverently their Reliques to have Holy Pictures and Reverently to regard them for the Love of Christ or his Saints and the like No Text I say of the Word of God doth expresly condemn These and the like Articles believ'd by Catholicks Though many make expresly for them as Catholick Divines do shew Secondly Although all True Catholicks do Humbly and Obediently believe as the Church Teaches And thereupon do firmly imbrace divers Articles propos'd by Her which are not in express Terms found in the Scriptures Yet in these very Points they do not believe the Doctrines of men or prefer the Doctrines of men before the express Word of God or hazard their Souls that the Teaching of Their Pastors is truer or rather to be follow'd than the Word of God But in these particular Articles they rely upon the Authority of God and believe the Word of God speaking in and by his Church which will not be hard to shew For the Office of Preaching the Word of God by Christ committed to his Apostles dy'd not with them but continu'd with their Successors And so the Preaching of their Successors was the Preaching of the Word of God not only in the first Age after the Apostles but in all succeeding Ages the Holy Ghost Ever abiding with them John 14. And Teaching them all Truth in matters of Faith John 16. Moreover in the Ages after the Apostles not only those who had Skill and Means to Read the Scriptures But those also who could not Read them might believe in Christ and might be Saved by him And consequently
they must not budge from Luther in Geneva from Calvin in England from the Belief Establish'd by Parliament Which if they do presently they are urg'd and sometimes born down by Church Authority Presently excellent and pithy Sentences extolling Church Authority and shewing the Necessity thereof are Alleadg'd Magnify'd urg'd in Sermons in Books out of the Scripture out of Tertullian St. Cyprian Lirinensis and other Fathers Notwithstanding that these very Sentences through the sides of these poor Ignorants do deadly stab the Hearts of those which alleadge them for disobeying that very Church Authority which these Sentences speak of and commend But with what Equity if I may be so bold as to ask with what Security of Conscience do these Authoriz'd Teachers proceed against these Zealous Ignorants for following that Belief which they gather out of the Word of God put into their Hands by these their Teachers and force them to follow another which by the very Rules and Tenets of these men they cannot but esteem Superstitious May they not justly say If the Scripture only be the Rule of Faith why do ye not permit us to believe what we find therein If it be easie to be understood why do you punish us for holding that Doctrine which we gather out of it If it be not easie why do you put it into our Hands If we are not bound to believe in Points of Faith any thing that is not expresly in the Scripture why will ye force us to believe and practice that which there we find not If Church Authority is to be rejected why do you interpose yours If it be a Butchering of Consciences to force men to Believe as the Church doth Teach Why do you force us to Believe as you Teach If you contemn the Authority of the â—ver Visible Church why do you force us to Reverence and to stoop to yours What signes do you shew what Miracles do you work to demonstrate unto us that your Church Authority is rather to be Follow'd rather to be Obey'd than the Church Authority of the Antient Fathers of the General Councels of the ever Visible Church of Christ If Church Authority be to be Follow'd be to be Reverenc'd be to be Obey'd Restore Us to that which Hoary Autiquity which Succession of Prelates which Consent of Nations which Excellent Sanctity which Manifest Miracles do commend unto Us. If it is to be rejected leave us to Gods Word and force not our Consciences against that Light which shineth unto us in Reading the same Thus may these misled People now complain against those who having drawn them out of the Bosom of the Catholick Church do now endeavour to Inthrawl them to themselves But much more terrible I fear will be the Bill of Complaint which one day they are likely to put up at the Chancery Bar of Heaven if a speedy and serious Course be not taken to restore these misled Souls again to the secure feeding of their Mother Church Which God of his Mercy bring to pass for the Eternal Happiness both of Them and their Leaders Question VII If God hath left no sure and un-erring Interpreter of his Word in Matters of Faith How can it be defended That the Holy Scriptures are not Unprofitable and even Pernicious to Mankind PErchance some Protestants not able to give a satisfying Answer to my Question about the Interpreter of the Scriptures will affirm That God hath not ordained any certain Interpreter of those his Sacred Oracles but hath left them to the scanning and guess of all Readers whatsoever But then I demand How it can be defended that these Divine Books are not hurtful yea and even pernicious to Mankind For evident it is that they may be taken in divers and opposite Senses Yea evident it is that they are de facto so taken by several Learned Men. Who following no surer Interpreter than the strength of their own Wit and Learning do gather out of them contrary Faiths and Religions and several worships of God Of which some of necessity must be false and hurtful to all that follow them for False Religions are ever hurtful yea plainly pernicious to those which follow them as more clearly hereafter shall appear And indeed three things are questionable about the Holy Scriptures which without the help of an un-erring Interpreter authorized and enabled by God himself to guide us to the Truth about them can never be rightly and fittingly decided The first is Which Books are Canonical and truly the Word of God And which are not The second is Which Translation is good right authentical and which is not The third is Which is the true and right meaning of the Holy Ghost in this or that Text or Sentence of Scripture touching upon some point of Faith About the sense whereof the Learned do contend Which being so divers People perswaded in their Consciences that the Scriptures are Divine Books and really the Word of God And that by believing them rightly and by following that Religion which they teach they may obtain Life Everlasting Will earnestly endeavour to search out the true meaning of them Which they being not able every where to find by their own natural Forces without the help of a sure Interpreter directed by the Holy Ghost They will pick out divers false Senses yea and Religions out of the Scriptures by mistaking their right meaning Which they will repute the true meaning of them being not tyed to any Interpreter and will defend Tooth and Nail to the assured Perdition of their own Souls and theirs whom they draw after them and to the raising of several Factions endless Contentions and bloody Broils amongst Christian People as we see fallen out since the rising of Luther For each of those who thus search the Scriptures without regarding any Infallible Interpreter will easily perswade himself that is the right meaning of the Holy Ghost which he hath lighted upon and that the true Light of the Gospel which shineth to him in reading and scanning the Word of God and that therefore it standeth him upon if he will not betray the Truth and lose his own Soul to stick firmly thereunto and to strive even to death to maintain the same Yea sometimes such Searchers of God's Word esteem themselves bound in Conscience to bandy with all the force they can against those who seek to Ruine what they would Raise From which manner of perswasions have proceeded not only great varieties of Religions and great Animosity in the defence of them but all the furious Garboils also and bloody Contentions about Religion which now for above these Hundred Years have miserably turmoil'd the Christian World and yet are likely further to turmoil it unless Christian Princes open their Eyes to behold the true Root of these Dissentions and how absolutely necessary it is to admit of some one Infallible and Un-erring Interpreter of God's Word authorized and enabled by the Holy Ghost to deliver the true Sense thereof
particular all the Articles of Faith which the Learned Pastors of the Church believe yet they are bound under the Penalty of Eternal Damnation not to deny wittingly any one of them nor to doubt stubbornly of the truth of them nor to believe wittingly the contrary for he that so doth falleth thereby into the damning Crime of Heresie Which ever includes an Election or Culling out of certain Articles out of the Doctrine of the Church which are imbraced for true and a Rejection of the rest as Doubtful False or Erronious Which presumptuous discarding of Divine Verities revealed by Christ to his Apostles for the direction of Mankind to Eternal Happiness and by them laid up in the Treasury of the Church as a Sacred Depositum 1 Tim. 6. 20. under the sure Custody of the Holy Ghost is no less than High-Treason against Christ our Saviour in regard that it raises a most pernicious Rebellion in his Spiritual Kingdom bringing part thereof again under the Tyranny of the Devil It frustrates the full Operation of his Passion extinguishes the true and right Worship of God despoils Christian People of Divine Faith and thereby of the true means of Salvation It deprives the Saints of due Honour defrauds the Faithful departed of necessary Relief It robbs Heaven of Souls and inriches Hell with innumerable unwary and most unhappy People For which respects it is rightly stiled one of the greatest Sins and of the loudest crying Crimes that is Although I say the Unlearned of the Church are not bound to believe explicitly all Her Sacred Verities yet they are bound not to deny any one of them wittingly even as they are not bound to know all that is in the Sacred Scripture yet they are bound not to deny any thing therein contain'd though it be never so small a thing because all is warranted by the Authority of God which is of equal Force and Worth of equal Truth both in great and in small things which therefore are of equal Certainty it being as far from God to lie and deceive in small things as in great And therefore prudent Men in Matters of Faith and Religion seek no farther than whether this or that be warranted by Gods Authority or no which they learn by the Teaching of the Church guided by the Holy Ghost for there is no other sure and infallible Means on Earth to direct us in the obscure Misteries of Faith about which anew God now reveals nothing but leaves us to the Teaching of his Church guided as I said by the Holy Ghost which makes all Discreet Christians to submit so humbly their Judgements to the Church and to relie so securely upon her Authority God himself assuring them that She is the Pillar and Ground of Truth 1 Tim. 3. 15. The Second Truth is That the Subjects of the Church of Christ are not bound either to know or believe certain disputable Points of Divinity not defin'd by the Church which are controverted among the Learned The pernicious Falshood inferred out of these Truths is That Christian People who are not Learned are not bound under hazard of their Souls to believe those Articles of Faith taught by the the True and Catholick Church of Christ which false Prophets which Heretical Men reputed Learned do question deny and dispute against As though the Bad Proud Rebellious and Ungodly proceeding of these Men were a sufficient Warrant unto others to doubt of the Truth of Gods revealed Verities to mangle and believe by halves his Sacred Religion to disobey their Lawful Prelates to deprive their Souls of the fruitful use of Christs Divine Sacraments to contemn the Doctrine and to forsake the Communion of the Church Which is manifestly absurd and untrue being contrary both to Reason and Scripture as I have shewed Which teach that Christian People in the profound Mysteries of the Christian Religion are bound to be guided by those Doctors and Pastors Act. 20. which God hath placed in his Church and authorised to Teach Direct and Guide them And that they are likewise most deeply obliged to beware of and to shun false Prophets and Heretical Teachers and not to heap to themselves new Masters with itching Ears leaving the Truth of the Pillar of Truth the Church of the Living God and turning to Fables that is either to their own Self-conceits or to the Self-conceits of others which in the Mysteries of the Christian Religion when they swerve from the Doctrine of the Church are no truer than Fables though they be gilded over with the fair Title of the true Light of the Gospel and therefore the Faith of those who are guided by such Conceiters is never Divine never the Gift of God never available to Salvation For the clear understanding of which Assertion Note First That most true it is that God hath revealed many profound Misteries and Divine Verities for Men to believe to be thereby directed fittingly what to hold and to practise for the obtaining of ever-during Happiness Note Secondly That it is also most true that Man of himself without the Aid of Coelestial Grace is not able to believe these Verities fittingly and suitably to his Supernatural End. Note Thirdly That God cannot stir up and draw men by this his Heavenly Grace to believe these Verities unless they be proposed to be believ'd without all mixture of Falshood for if any Falshood be packt in among them and proposed with them for a Divine Truth revealed by God he cannot draw men by his Grace to believe them thus mingled and proposed with Falshood as is manifest because he cannot induce men to believe any Falshood at all And therefore whosoever doth thrust in among some Divine Verities any false Doctrine contrary to that which God hath revealed proposing the same to be believed as a Divine Truth and therein stubbornly contradicting the Teaching of the Church he debars God from co-opperating with his Grace and from drawing People to believe with Divine Faith the Doctrine so mixt and proposed Note Fourthly That Gods revealed Verities will fall out to be of no utility at all to Mankind but rather a Trap to ruine them unless there be some sure un-erring and infallible Proposer of them who doth propose them to Gods People without any mixture of Falshood at all in such sort that he doth not propose any thing as an Article revealed by God which is not so or which is false and contrary to that which God hath indeed reveal'd And therefore that God may draw men by the special aid of his Grace to believe with Divine Faith his revealed Misteries and Verities he must cause them to be proposed to men sincerely and without all mixture of Falshood He I say must cause them to be so proposed because no man of himself without the continual guidance and assistance of the Holy Ghost is able always so to propose them All then that will have Divine Faith must be guided by Gods Proposer of Divine Doctrine and
which the Nations of the Earth were made Blessed But then I demand 1st With what Spectacles do these men who thus Answer see this Invisible Religion Or how do they know there was any such in the World What Text of the Bible what History makes mention thereof 2ly Who were the Preachers of this Invisible Religion Who the Followers What Nations receiv'd it What Sacraments had it What Divine Service or Worship of God In what Churches was it practic'd or Caves or Desarts How did the Followers thereof know one another What Candles did they use at their Meetings all being Invisible amongst them 3ly What Foolish Heretick may not by thus Answering maintain that his Devises were ever extant though Invisibly and that the Nations of the Earth by them have been Blessed yet Invisibly This Answer then being too too Absurd and Ridiculous Will other Protestants hope to evade by saying That although the Faith of the Roman Church grew by degrees to be full of Errors and Superstitions yet the Nations of the Earth were Sav'd thereby and thereby were made truly Blessed in Jesus But then I demand first whether the Faith of the Roman Church be truly Holy truly pleasing to God and profitable to Man or no If it be not how could God draw Men by his Heavenly Grace to believe it But if it be why did Protestants at the first revolt from it Or how durst they lately Persecute it May they securely Persecute and seek to ruine that Religion by which for so many hundred years the Nations of the Earth have been made Blessed in Jesus I believe not Secondly I demand by what Text of Scripture or light of Reason will Protestants maintain that God by his Grace and special operation can draw men to believe a false and Superstitious Religion A Religion that had so great need of Reforming that the World was to be turn'd up-side down and Infinite Tumults and Bloody Broils to be set a foot rather than not to undertake it If God can draw men by his Grace can move and stir them up to imbrace and believe Errors and Superstitions or Religions that are Erronious and Superstitious how is he not in this respect as bad as the Devil Or upon what firm ground can we maintain that the Religion of Moses the Religion of Jesus was Pure and Holy By saying and proving that God was the Author of these Religions That proves nothing if God by his Grace can draw men to believe Errors and Superstitions Thirdly I demand If Jesus was the true Messias and that God did intend to draw the Nations of the Earth to believe in him and to make them Blessed by him was he not able to provide himself of a True Holy and Divine Religion to which with his Honour he might draw them But must he needs make use of a False Blind Superstitious one to the extream Disgrace of himself These Answers then being Absurd and far from satisfying Prudent men To maintain that Jesus is the True Messias and that the Promises of God made to the Patriarchs have been really fulfill'd in him Will considerate Protestants grant and acknowledge that he hath ever had in all Ages a Divine Religion wholly True and truly Saving spread over the World to bring to the Nations thereof the promis'd Blessing If this they will do they shall do like Good Christians But then they must name a Divine Pure and Illustrious Religion different and distinct from Papistry which hath Converted the Nations of the Earth to Jesus and in all Ages hath made them Blessed in him Which is impossible for them to do Or else they must acknowledge and grant that Papistry is a Divine Religion is wholly true is the True Light of the Gospel of Christ is his only Saving Faith and abundantly apt and able to bring to the Nations of the Earth the Promis'd Blessing all which is most true as I hope they will grant rather then deny that Jesus was the True Messias and Saviour of the World as some Protestants have done to the assured damnation of their Souls Being by this Argument choak'd and not able to find any satisying Answer thereunto unless they would yield that Papistry is a Holy and Saving Religion and the true Light of the Gospel of Christ Which they being unwilling to yield unto either for shame or for their extream hatred thereof turn'd either Jews Turks or Atheists and so made sure their Eternal Damnation But our Protestants I hope will be Wiser and will rather return to the Faith of their Noble Progenitors in which they may assuredly be Sav'd than run into so great madness and thereby perish Eternally Question XI Did the Church of Christ err heretofore because Christ could not preserve her from erring or because he would not MY Eleventh Demand of Protestants is if the Church of Christ hath err'd as they say in her Doctrine of Faith from whence proceeded this her erring Did this happen because Christ could not keep her from erring or because he would not If he could not how is he God How is he Omnipotent How is it True that he had All Power given him both in Heaven and Earth Mat. 28. 18. If Christ could enable his Apostles to Preach his Religion over the World without danger of erring and of deluding the Nations of the Earth why could he not also Enable their Successors the Ordinary Doctors and Pastors of his Church to Teach and continue the same Religion in all succeeding Ages without danger of erring and of misleading his People If God could direct men to write his Holy Scriptures without danger of erring why can he not direct men to explicate the same Holy Scriptures in all Ages without danger of erring in matters of Faith Well then Protestants must say that Christ could have preserv'd his Church in all Ages from danger of erring in her Doctrine of Faith but would not But why would he not Did the Increase of his own Credit and Glory move him to this neglect or the good of Mankind Not the Increase of his own Credit For what Credit Honour Glory could acrew and arise to him by the erring of his Church Doth this commend his Workmanship in Founding her His Wisdom Goodness Power in Governing her I think not Nay could it become the Wisdom of a Discreet man to take so great Pains and to suffer so Painful and Ignominious a Death as Christ did for the Founding of an Erring Church which should Delude and Mislead the World Would any Honest Protestant if he had the like Power that Christ had have Founded so miserable a Church as they esteem Christ to have Founded I believe not Was it then the good of Mankind that invited Christ to Constitute an erring Church Truly no. For no good can come to men by such a Church but rather much harm yea infinite mischief As endless Discord Broils Contentions Bloody Encounters uncertainty in matters of Faith contempt of all Religion
affirm That those Protestants which deny Papistry to be a saving Religion and hold that Papists are not saved are neither of the best Learned nor of the Wisest sort For if they were Learned they would easily gather out of the Doctrine of the Scriptures and the Histories of the Christian Church that to deny Papistry to be a saving Religion is to deny Christ in effect as I have before shewed And if they were discreet and wise they would not so rashly condemn to the pit of Hell the whole Christian World together with their Fore-fathers for so many hundreds of years in which Papistry reigned over the World without any firm ground or urgent reason at all Unless their own mistaking and ignorance must be reputed a firm ground For setting these aside by which their mis-informed and mis-guided Zeal doth take Papistry to be that which it is not what can they bring firm and solid to prove that Papistry is not a saving Religion Will they say that Papists are ignorant of or do not rely upon a certain special Faith by which they esteem themselves to be the Elect of God and to be Cock-sure of Salvation Be it so Neither did the Prophets nor the Apostles nor the Ancient Fathers rely upon this special Faith as is evident by their Lives For they applied themselves to Holy Works to much Prayer to frequent Fasting to great Austerity and Mortification seeking by these means to make sure their Vocation 2 Pet. 1. 10. and really working their Salvation in fear and trembling as the Apostle adviseth Philip. 2. 12. For all which Labour Care and Austerity this special Faith is a Supersedeas as is manifest by the Lives and Actions of those which rely thereon Wherefore if for want of this Sin-nourishing special Faith Papists do perish both Patriarchs Prophets Apostles and the Ancient Fathers yea all the Saints and Holy Servants of God which lived from Adam's time to Luther must perish with them For none of these were acquainted with or relyed upon this special Faith. Otherwise there would have been clear and manifest mention thereof in the Holy Scriptures in which the Holy Ghost not once or twice but most frequently would have inculcated the same if it had been so needful that without it Men could not be saved But seeing that in all his Divine Word he hath made no clear mention thereof Papists cannot be in danger for not relying thereon But rather those which relye thereon are in manifest danger of Eternal Perdition because in so weighty a business as their Everlasting Happiness is they forsaking the received Doctrine of the Christian World in the point of Jurisdiction rely upon a meer chimerical Fiction of their own as at their death they will find What then will these Zealous Precisians exclude Papists from Heaven because they commit Idolatry But this foul and foolish Crime Papists do no where commit but in these Mens mistaking Brains as is evident to all that know what Papists believe But Papists they will say do Err in divers points of Religion and therefore they cannot be saved But do not all Churches Err in these Mens conceipt Are not all subject to Erring Let them then either yield that Erring Religions are saving or else let them boldly teach That Jesus Christ hath not provided the World of any means of Salvation seeing he hath not established therein as these Men imagine any Religion that is not Erring By all which it is clear that in these parts of the World none do doubt but that Papistry is a Saving Religion saving a few unlearned Precisians who doubt of this but very indiscreetly as I have shewed But on the contrary all the Papists in the World who are far more in number than the Protestants are and really far excel them in Learning do not doubt whether the Protestant Religion be Saving or no but most firmly hold upon sure and undeceiving Grounds that it is not and that therefore no Man can be Saved precisely by the help of this Religion Which makes so many understanding Men and Women that know it right well forsake it notwithstanding that it is so easie and so pleasiing to Flesh and Blood and to imbrace Papistry far less agreeable to their Sensual Appetites with so great hazard of their Quiet Preferments Liberty and Goods Which certainly they would never do but to secure their Souls Which security if the Protestant Religion were able to afford no Man of Wit here in England would forsake the same to become a Catholick But no such security is to be found in this Religion but rather certain danger of Eternal Perdition as all do find that throughly search into it Neither are Papists for thus Censuring of the Protestant Religion to be esteemed less charitable then those Protestants which brand not Papistry with so hard a Censure For the Case of Papists and Protestants in this Affair is not alike Because Protestants in believing are at liberty according to their own Positions in regard That as they do not hold that there is upon Earth any Un-erring Church whose teaching all are bound to follow under pain of Damnanation So they do not esteem themselves bound to believe strictly the teaching of any Church or to think that Errors in Points of Faith do indanger Salvation But Papists are not at the like liberty because they believing that the Catholick Church which is no other than that Church which being spread over the World is joined in Communion to the Chair of Peter cannot Err in her Doctrine of Faith by reason of the continual assistance of the Holy Ghost do esteem themselves bound to believe as she teaches And therefore because this Church guided by the Holy Ghost and directed by the Holy Scriptures doth teach that there is but One Faith Ephes 4. but One Fold Joh. 10. That Christian People are bound under pain of Damnation to Obey their Lawful Prelates Heb. 13. And to hear the Voice of the Church Matth. 18. And to listen to the Ordinary Pastors thereof Luk. 10. And that they are in like sort bound to beware of false Prophets that is false Expounders of God's Word to avoid Heretical Teachers such as their Church hath declared Protestant Teachers to be For these and the like respects Catholicks do resolutely hold if they be such as understand their own Religion that by the help precisely of the Protestant Religion no Man can be saved Which they hold not for want of Charity but for Obedience to the Word of God and to the True and Catholick Church of Christ Let not then Protestants blame Catholicks for believing as they do seeing the word of God and so great Authority doth force them thereunto But rather let them blame themselves for following new Teachers contrary to the Doctrine of the Scriptures and for dis-uniting themselves from the True and Catholick Church of Christ out of whose Communion there is No Salvation as our Creeds do teach By all which
and Obedience is very meritorious and pleasing to God That Virginity vow'd and Consecrated to God is better than Matrimony That Bishops and Priests ought to live chaste and single Lives That the Body and Blood of Christ is truly and really in the Blessed Sacrament which Sacrament is also truly and properly a Sacrifice Christ therein being truly offered to his Heavenly Father in an unbloody manner under the forms of Bread and Wine which Sacrifice doth not only represent the Sacrifice of the Cross but it doth also copiously apply the same to those for whom it is Offered both as it is impetratory and also as it is satisfactory That it is not lawful to interpret the Scriptures contrary to the Interpretation of the Church or to reject any parts thereof by Her approved But in this and in all other things appertaining to Faith and Religion we are bound under pain of Damnation to submit our Judgements to the Teaching of the Church and to believe as She doth direct us These and the like Points professed now in the Roman Church were in practice amongst the Primitive Christians which lived presently after the Apostles as is manifest not only by the Records of Antiquity but also by their Practice which clearly sheweth their Faith For Fasting the keeping of Lent the abstaining from Flesh on Fridays the Vowing of Virginity of perpetual Chastity Monastical Discipline the wearing of Hair-cloth and other like Austerities the single Life of the Clergy and the like were in use and did wonderfully flourish amongst them Insomuch that Sebastianus Francus a Learned Anabaptist searching most curiously among the Writers of former Ages after the Protestant Religion and finding no Footsteps thereof in all Antiquity even up to the Apostles times he freely and boldly affirmeth in his Epistle of abrogating all Ecclesiastical Statutes That presently after the Apostles times all things were turned upside down c. and that for certain through the work of Antichrist the External Church together with the Faith and Sacraments vanished away presently after the Apostles departure Into which Blasphemy this Learned Protestant would never have fallen if he could have found any certain signs of the Protestant Religion among the Primitive Christians which lived presently after the Apostles or could have inclined his Conscience to outface the matter with stout lying as many of his Fellows do to conceal the Truth in this point from the Eyes of well-meaning People The same in effect is affirmed by Coelius Secundus Curio a Learned Protestant also in his Book of the Amplitude of the Kingdom of God Lib. I. pag. 43. Are we ignorant saith he in how great Darkness and Blindness the World hath continued almost from the Apostles Age to these our times in which beyond all expectation the Lord hath begun to manifest himself The Protestant Author of the Book Entituled Antichristus or Prognostica finis mundi pag. 13. affirms likewise That from the Apostles times till Luther the Gospel had never open passage To that there can no doubt be made but that the first Christians who lived presently after the Apostles did forsake and abandon the easie pleasing and sweet Liberty of the Protestant Religion if ever they were taught it by the Apostles and fell of themselves through all the world to believe and practice the hard and harsh Discipline of Papistry contrary to the custom of Mankind The which how improbable yea how impossible it is Who is so senseless that he doth not see Which improbability and moral impossibility will appear yet much more clearly if we take into our consideration that not only a few ignorant People must be thought thus to have neglected and abandoned the Doctrine and Discipline of Christ and of his Apostles if that indeed was such as is now believed and practised by Protestants and to have preferred without any necessity without any Utility yea with manifest peril of their Souls Fasting before Feasting Pennance before Pleasure Labour before Ease course Dyet before Dainties hard Couches before Beds of Down rough Hair-cloth before soft cloathing a mortified chaste and single Life before the delights of Wedlock seeking foolishly as Protestants imagine to curb and bring under the Appetites of the Flesh and to rid themselves of the molesting temptations thereof rather by severe harsh and cruel usage of their Bodies than by the pleasing remedy of a Female Consort as Protestant Ministers use to do Not only I say the ignorant and vulgar sort must be thought thus to have neglected the sweet liberty of the Protestant Gospel if ever the Apostles had settled them in it and to have embraced foolishly and madly the hard and severe Discipline of Papistry but the better sort also even the Learned and Holy Fathers of the primitive Church such as were Dionisius Ignatius Cyprian Athanasius Basil the Great Gregory the Divine Chrysostome Hierom Ambrose Augustine and others the chief and principal Lights after the Apostles of the Church of Christ All which were either real Practisers or Praisers of Monastical Discipline of the chaste and single life of vowed Virginity and the like which they would never have done most certainly if these things had been contrary to the Doctrine and practice of Christ and of the Apostles and against the true liberty of his Divine Gospel of which they could not be ignorant being so excellently skilled in the Scriptures as they were and living so near the times of those Blessed Founders of the Christian Religion as they did And so the Doctrine and Discipline of the Ancient Fathers and of the Christians of the primitive Church which really was the same in substance that is now in use in the Roman Church do evidently convince that the Apostles were not Protestants neither in Doctrine nor in Practice but rather that truly and really they were Papists in regard that they were strict Practisers and Teachers of those many points in Papistry which so clearly shined in their Disciples and Successors the Pastors and People of the primitive Church which is so certain out of the Doctrine of the Antient Fathers and other Records of Antiquity that it cannot be denyed with any colour of Truth And therefore the Conceipt of those Protestants who imagine that the Apostles practised and taught the easie Discipline and Belly-pleasing liberty of their new Gospel is but a meer fancy a vain and empty Dream there being no colourable ground thereof at all neither in the Word of God nor in the Records of Antiquity Out of which Records how little may be expected to prove that the Apostles were Protestants doth sufficiently appear by that which hath been said For if by them it doth appear as most certainly it doth that much Fasting great austerity of life Monastical Discipline the vowing of Virginity of perpetual chastity and single life in the Clergy did greatly flourish among the first Christians what Hop can there be to gather from thence that the Apostles were Protestants certainly none