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A47152 Immediate revelation, or, Jesus Christ the eternall Son of God revealed in man and revealing the knowledge of God and the things of his kingdom immediately : or, the Holy Ghost, the Holy Spirit of promise, the spirit of prophecy poured forth and inspiring man and induing him with power from on high ... not ceased, but remaining a standing and perpetual ordinance in the Church of Christ and being of indispensible necessity as to the whole body in general ... / writ by George Keith, prisoner of the truth in the Tolbooth of Aberdein, the 29th of the third moneth, 1665. Keith, George, 1639?-1716. 1668 (1668) Wing K175; ESTC R28754 117,830 152

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body fitly joyned together and compacted by that which every joynt supplieth according to the effectual working in the measure of every part maketh increase of the Body You see how it is said This Head this Foundation This Corner-stone hath an effectual Working in the Measure of every part for it is a living Stone a Stone which is Life and Spirit and so breathes Life in every part and member of the Body Whereby every Member also becomes a living Stone 1 Pet. 2. 5. A Temple of the Holy Ghost which is therein 1 Cor. 6. 19. So the holy Spirit of Christ dwels in the whole Body and in every Member and is not divided but is one in all and in every one Now mark further Christ is this Foundation as Peter confessed him Revealed not by Flesh and Blood but by his Father which is in Heaven Christ must be revealed by the Father before he become a Foundation this is that which bu●…eth which edifieth the effectual working in every part the Revelation of the Arm of the Lord in mans heart This is that which diggeth deep beyond all the earth and sand and that which is Corruptible till it come to the Incorruptible The Word of God which abideth for ever and is able to carry the Building and bear it up against all the storms that can affault it Whosoever cometh to me saith Christ and heareth my sarings and doth them he is like a man that built an house and d●…gged deep and laid the Foundation on a Rock and this is himself Lo●… now he saith He that builds on the true Foundation on the Rock he diggeth deep for it and he heareth Christ himself and not only heareth but doeth So he must dig deep beyond all words till he come to the Power wherein the Kingdom standeth 1 Cor. 4. 20. In Power and not in Words he must dig deep beyond all Words till he come to the eternal Word which Created the Heavens and the Earth and is the Foundation which upholds them and hereupon must this new Crea●…ion be builded for nothing else can carry the weight of it and as is touched already this Foundation must be revealed not by Flesh and Blood but by God himself or else it cannot be come into and so cannot be built upon No man cometh unto me s●…th Christ unless the Father draw him and he who hath heared and learned of the Father cometh to him John 9. 44. 45. See how this agreeth with that which Christ said to Peter Flesh and Blood hath not revealed this unto thee This Rock on which I will build my Church but my Father in Heaven it must be the Revelation of the Father which must give the knowledg of it The living knowledge the knowledge which is life eternal for this Foundation being Life its effectual working is to quicken that which is dead that it may become a Member and it draws to it self by the vertue and power of its life and by the drawings a feeling of the life which draws is begotten and this feeling is the true knowledge and hereby man comes to know infallibly the true Foundation he discerns it in the feeling and so he can distinguish it from that which is Corruptible and is not able to bear up the building And therefore now ye who have not come to the revelation of the Father and of his Son ye have not yet seen the Foundation and how can ye Build on it If ye have not heard Christs words from his own mouth and do them not and if ye have not digged deep beyond all Words yea and thoughts and comprehensions of the carnal Mind if ye have not digged so deep till ye come to the Power wherein the kingdom of God stands your building is but on the Sand and that Church whatsoever which is not builded on this Foundation Christ Jesus immediately revealed both in the whole Body and in every Member thereof is not the true Church but a Synagogue of Sathan a vile Harlot Mystery Babylon the Mother of Fornicators for the true Church is one in all ages past present and to come and it hath ever had one Foundation which is Jesus Christ the same yesterday and to day and for ever and there is one Body and one Spirit one hope one Lord one Faith one Baptism Ephes. 4. 4 5. Now what was this Foundation of the Church of God before ever Scripture was writ before Moses and the Prophets and Apostles which came after who wrot the Scriptures Was it not Jesus Christ the Word which was in the beginning had it any other Foundation and what gave them the knowledge of this Foundation and builded them upon it when they had no Scripture and whereupon was their faith founded by the hearing of what word did they come by their Faith seeing then the Scriptures was not writ it was even the Word which came from God himself and taught them immediately and many of them believed when they had no man to speak unto them The Word of the Lord came unto Abraham when he was in his own country saying unto him Get thee out from among thy kindred and from thy Fathers house out of thy country unto the Land that I will shew thee and there was no man brought this message to him for those among whom he lived were Idolaters but God spoke to him by his own immediate Word and he heard and believed and it was counted to him for Righteousness Thus ye may see how Abraham's Faith came by the hearing of the Word of God proceeding from his own mouth Now every Believer is the Seed of Abraham Gal. 3. 29. And this Faith is the same Faith with his for there is but one Faith and it hath the same Foundation the Word of God proceeding immediately from himself for no other Word is able to beget it but the same Word of power which begot the Faith of Abraham for Faith is the gift of God it is a Supernatural thing and therefore it must have a supernatural Cause it must stand in the power of God the Word of Power which was in the Beginning 1 Cor. 2. 5. For nothing else is able to bear the weight of 〈◊〉 and so Isaac and Iacob heard God and believed And the Word of the Lord came unto Moses and he believed And so many others we read of who heard God himself and now the 〈◊〉 being one in all and having one foundation it follows manifestly That every believer must hear the Word of the Lord which proceedeth out of his own Mouth on which alone that one Faith is builded And to this one Foundation Moses and all the Prophets and Apostles testified and b●…ar witness So did Jesus Christ himself in the daies of his Flesh. Let us begin with Moses after he had fully declared unto the Iews as he had received them from the Lord all the Laws pertaining to the first Covenant and have writ them in a book and had given them
Minister from the Spirit nor have received any ordinance there-from as is Manifest both from their Principles and Practises The 7th of the 4th Month 1668. G. K. FINIS POSTSCRIPT RObert Barron his Book Entituled Apodipis Catholica de formali objecto fidei coming to my hands after the finishing of what I had writ concerning Immediate Revelation its remaining a standing Ordnance in the Church I found it fit to cite such particular places directing the Reader to his Words where at large he may see them Where he declareth his Doctrine concerning Immediate or inward Revelation Ex parte Objecti and ex parte Subjecti affirming that ex parte Objecti to be Ceased which con●…th the Prophets and Pen-men of the Scriptures to have had and that only this Revelation Ex parte Objecti is Revelation properly simply and according to the more usual way of speaking in the Scripture so called see Tract●… 9. Authors Duplic Puncto 2 Num. 13. 14. 15. Again a few leaves after puncto bt●… num 6. and num 5. Immediately preceeding he saith that which moves the Mind to give one assent to Truth objectively or by way of Object is Medium cognitum a known Midst it must be known and apprehended by the Mind that it may move it to assent but that which moveth effectively upon the part of Subject or Power which he calleth Revelation Ex parte Subjecti is Medium incognitum an unknown mid'st because saith he these helps upon the part of the subject may co-operate to produce one assent of Faith although they are not felt or known by us Let the Reader take a view of these places where he shall see that I have truly set down his Doctrine and his very words in that paper concerning Immediate Revelation and Tract 9. Quest. 8. Num. 5. He saith they falsly assert that we believe the authority of the Scriptures for or because of the inward testimony of the Spirit for we believe saith he the Divine Authority of the Scripture not for another thing but for the Scripture it self because that act of Faith whereby the Authority of the Scripture is believed leaneth upon the Scripture it self as it 's principal Foundation Some will say saith he some Orthodox Theologues speak far otherwayes for they most frequently affirm the Scripture authority to be believed for or because of the Inward Testimony of the Spirit ●…o which he roundly answereth and I desire the Reader to mark the answer whereby he may perceive either their or his Deceipt whereby they give poor people to believe that they deny not the Spirits Testimony or inward Teaching but when it comes to the point their false cover is taken off and they falsly deny it although saith he they speak otherwaies yet they think not otherwise for that word for or because of Latine propter is ambiguous and sometimes importeth a respect to the effective cause of assent but sometimes yea more often to the objective cause or Foundation upon which the assent of our mind leaneth c. This Robert Barron after long debate with the Iesuit Turnbull contending against the Papists That the authority of the Church of Rome is not the formal Object or Foundation of Faith or believing of the Scriptures cometh at last to refute their Doctrine which he calleth Errour and saith that it is most easily refuted who maintain the formal Object of Faith i. e. its Foundation to be the inward Revelation of the holy Spirit properly so called and for the Revelation of this Dectrine which Num. 6. he most of all condemneth he bringeth five Arguments Num. 8. Punct 6. Tract 9. And I find it fit to set them down also Word by Word Translated into English out of the Latin in which his book is writ that the Reader in whom the true discerning in any Measure is opened may see the blindness of this man in the things of God notwithstanding of all his Letter knowledge and what a woful condition this poor Nation has been in these many years for all their high pretences to be the most glorious and most purely reformed Church in the Earth and yet this Doctrine of Immediate Revelation wereby alone God can be sufficiently and saveingly known hath been by them and yet is by the present generation accounted so ridiculous that by this Man R. B. called Doctor of Divinity in Aberdeen and of great fame for his learning at home and abroad it is most of all condemned even more than the Popish Doctrine of resolveing their Faith in the Authority of the Church of Rome so that Scripture is fulfilled upon them Isa. 29. 13. 14. His Arguments are as followeth To every one of which as they ly in order I shall return a few words of answer which I hope shall satisfie the discerning and indeed they are so weak frivolous and vain that little or no answer is required were it not that fools some times are to be answered in their folly least they should seem wise in their own eyes as Solomon speaketh First saith he This way of knowing the Truth of the Doctrines of Faith viz. By the internal Revelation of the holy Spirit properly so called is Extraordinary and Prophetical as is Manifest of the aforesaid and consequentially the truth of the Christian Doctrine formerly and commonly is not so made known unto the Faithful Answ. This way of Internal Revelation Prophecy so called hath alwayes been not only Extraordinary but altogether shut up from the unbelieving and such who stuck in the Letter but it h●…h alwayes been common to the true Christians and Saints in all ages being the New Covenant Dispensatory which l●…eth not for ever Isa. 59. 21. That it was Prophetical i. e. Imparted to the Prophets is granted but it follows not that therefore it is not the common priviledge of all Saints who were to have the like precious Faith with them and though it was rare in the days of old yet God hath poured cut according to his Promise Ioel 2. 28 29. Largely upon Sons and Daughters of his Spirit whereby they Prophecy Secondly saith he who imbrace this Errour they confound the gift of Faith and the gift of Prophecy for the most noble k●…nd of prophetical Revelation is that which is by Intellectual speaking or illumination as Thomas and Suarez teach Answ. 1. Who imbrace this supposed Err●…ur but indeed Truth Do not confound the gift of Faith and the gift of Prophecy the spirit of Faith and the spirit of Prophecy is one but the opperations different 1 Cor. 12. 4 5 6. Now if by the gift of Prophecy he understand as he seemeth to do the inward Manifestation or speaking of God Immediately to the mind Faith is hereby wrought viz. God this speaking or Manifesting the truth Immediately in the Mind is the cause of Faith and so as the cause and effect are different so the Prophetical Revelation and the Faith of what is Revealed are different opperations For because God
Immediate Revelation OR Jesus Christ the Eternall Son of God revealed in man and revealing the knowledge of God and the things of his Kingdom immediately OR The Holy Ghost the Holy Spirit of promise the spirit of Prophecy poured forth and inspiring man and induing him with power from on high and baptising him thereunto giving him wisdom understanding and knowledge from above and giving to some utterance and moving them by his own immediate assistance to speak forth and declare the wonderful things of God NOT CEASED But remaining a standing and perpetual Ordinance in the Church of Christ and being of indispensible necessity as to the whole body in general so to every member thereof every true Believer in particular asserted and demonstrated And the objections that have any seeming weight against it answered Prov. 29. 18. Where there is no vision the people Perish Writ by George Keith Prisoner for the Truth in the Tolbooth of Aberdein the 29th of the third Moneth 1665. Printed in the Year 1668. A few words by way of Preface IT hath been in my heart once and again from the Lord to write some things unto the people and especially the Professors of this Nation concerning this great and weighty matter of Immediate Revelation which they say both Teachers and People is ceased we say is remaining and we know it to be so from the blessed experience given us of God therein even that it remaineth and is of necessary continuance in the true Church and among the true Saints and is not only necessary for the preservation safety and comfortable walking of the Saints with God but is also necessary in order to men and womens becoming Saints for through Immediate Revelation it is that any man who is naturally void of the true and saving knowledge of God and acquaintance with him comes to attain it The discussing of this controversie is of very great weight for this error of theirs concerning Immediate Revelation is such a Fundamental one that the greatest part of their other errors are built on it and indeed the whole superstructure of their Church and Ministry and Worship at to its outward constitution so that if this their foundation be found and discovered to be false viz. That there is no Immmediate Revelations now a dayes as the common priviledge of the Saints then down falls the whole superstructure of the outward constitution of their Church Ministry and Worship which all of necessity must be false if the foundation on which they are builded be such And here I shal instance several particulars of great weight which are all built upon this false foundation aforesaid 1. That the Scriptures outward testimony is most necessary and that no true and saving Knowledge of God is to be attained but by the Scriptures being read or heard 2. That there is no immediate furnishing gifting and fitting and qualifying men to be Teachers in the Church by immediate inspiration and pouring forth of the spirit of prophesie without any respect had to sex or humane qualifications of better learning such as was frequent in 〈◊〉 Apostles times as in Acts 2. 1. Cor. 14. All this say they is ceased so James Durham a noted man among the Presbyterians saith pag. 471. in his digression concerning prophecying that as it is taken for an immediate revealing of Gospel truths it is now ceased so say they generally hence their Divinity Schools and Colledges are come up both among Papists and Protestants whereby young men being sent of their Relations in order to a lively-hood learn the Art and Trade of preaching and praying and continues so many years till they be licentiated as ever a Shoo maker or other Tradesman serves his Apprenticeship and they make humane learning or the knowledge of Letters and essential qualification to a Minister so as he cannot be a Minister without it but grace only accidentall and not necessary to his being a Minister but to his better being so the aforesaid I. D. now such a learning of the things of God as is taught by man Divinely inspired who teach from the inspiration of God in them and whose care it is to turn and bring up them whom they teach unto the same light life and spirit of God from which they speak that they may learn in that and so come to be partakers with them of the same knowledge and wisdom from the same fountain we dearly own such was the School of the Prophets where the Teachers were the true Prophets of God and taught from Gods spirit in them whose teachings being in the evidence and demonstration of Gods spirit proved effectual unto the Schollars or learners so that they became prophets also and received of the same spirit and this dispensation which was both among Prophets and Apostles we witness to be among us through the mercy and goodness of the Lord at this day even the po●…ring forth the spirit of the Lord no less upon the hearers then was at first upon the Teachers whereby they also are become able to teach others both males and females prophecying or speaking forth the great things of God as the spirit gives utterance declaring the great things of the Gospel in its effectual workings on their own hearts now that Prophecying is frequently taken in Scripture in this sence and not only for a foretelling of things to come is clear from Rom. 12. 6. Rev. 10. 11. 11. 13. 19. 10. compared to Rev. 12. 17. Joel 2. 28. 1 Cor. 14. 24. 31. 3dly Another great error following upon the aforesaid is that no man in these dayes is infallibly assisted to write speak preach or pray or praise as the Prophets and Apostles and Evangelists witnessed of old 4thly That there is no Immediate Call unto the Ministry 5thly That none are to wait for an inward call motion impulse or inspiration and assistance to preach or pray or give thanks so as to forbear until it be given them Nor that any should expect an Immediate Call and impulse or motion to the doing of any thing whatsomever that way being ceased 6thly That the Scriptures are a filled up Canon and the only rule of faith and obedience in all things and no more Scriptures to be writ or given forth from the spirit of the Lord. 7thly That their is no infallible way of discerning the true Ministers and Members of Iesus Christ as who be living and w●…o not whence proceeds that promiscuous m●…t multitude of teachers people where of their Church is composed who are generally void of any experience of a gratious work on their hearts The Controversie truly stated and clearly and distinctly opened Concerning Immediate Revelation whether ceased or remaining and needful to remain in the true Church BEcause in all matters of debate the true State of the controversie is so needful to be known that without the clear and distinct knowledge thereof The arguments brought to prove the thing affirmed do not so manifestly convince nor
measure testifie hereto even the Kingdom come with power and great glory and more abundantly coming in the Revelation and appearance of Jesus Christ the second time unto salvation and we are made to sing that song Isay 25. 9. 〈◊〉 this is our God he is come he is come we have waited for him he is cloathed with the gar●…nts of Salvation we will be glad and r●…yce in him We will remember his love more then Wine 1. Ca●… And further the usefulness of this principle concerning Immediate Revelation and the spirit of Prophesie yet remaining and to remain a standing perpetual indispensible necessary ordinance of God i●… the true Church being demonstrated will appear seeing it is the hinge and foundation of all the other weighty differences betwixt these of the national way and us for this principle being asserted and demonstrated to be of indispensible necessity in the church and the grand and main ordinance the foundation ordinance of all the other ordinances so much cryed up in opposition to this the foundation of the true Church Ministry Worship c. Then will it appear that these who deny and manifestly oppose this principle and the assertors of it whatever be there pretences are no church of Christ but Babylon and their Ministers no true Ministers of Christ but her Merchants and their worship no true worship but Idolatry and consequently that our separating from their Church Ministry and Worship is justifiable and we ought to separate therefrom as we would escape the Plagues that are to be poured forth on Babylon and all who seek to uphold her And now I proceed to the Arguments or reasons tending to demonstrate what is asserted and though the earthly carnal mind which ever accounted the way and wisdome of God foolishness fancy and madness will account all that can be said for it light frivolous and inconsequential yet I am assured of it that it shall have weight with them who have any the true Nobility of understanding and it shall reach the seed and principle of God in their consciences and hereto I shall be made manifest and the arguments brought shall be of force for I have not fetched them from my own wisdom neither has it taught me them but in the measure of the heavenly wisdom given me of God have I learned them and though I cite Scriptures and make use of them in arguing this point yet I can truly say it I have not my knowledge therefrom neither shall I dare to use striving words any further then the things by them declared in some measure are opened in my understanding and interpreted unto me from that spirit of truth which gave them forth and this gives me aright to speak and make use of them Argument 1. There is no other way to God but by the Revelation of his son he dwells in the light inaccessible which the mortal or natural understanding cannot approach unto clouds and darkness are round about him he filleth all things but is apprehended by nothing but that which cometh from himself is begotten of himself and leadeth unto himself the eye of flesh cannot see God neither can it see any thing which is beyond its sphear the earthly can only apprehend the earthly nothing can reach further then its proper object wherewith it is bounded and limited Now God is not the object of the eye of flesh I do not mean the bodily eye this is as uncapable hereof as that the carnal mind the natural man the eye and understanding in man which can judge of things earthly and pass a true judgement upon them and have a certain infallible knowledge of them in the capacity it is placed in and can be wi●…e as to these things and find out many secret things in nature and demonstrate them sufficiently to a mans understanding yet this is blind in respect of God it cannot know him with the true knowledge when it stretches it self to know him it is confounded and dashed more then if the bodily eye would set it self to look upon the Sun it is blinded with his beams and yet it will be medling and trying and searching into this mistery but it cannot by searching find out God he dwels in any other principle then it can reach unto and nothing can reach beyond its principle he dwels in the light here is his habitation and therefore in the light he can only be known that can only reveal him and it is somewhat begot of the light the child of light which has its element its habitation its principle in the light which can see and understand God and know him this is that which Christ taught himself in the dayes of his flesh and is recorded in Scriptures no man knoweth the Father save the Son and he to whom the Son reveals him Matthew 11. 27. Now if any should object and say he means an outward Revelation a mediate not Immediate Revelation this will be manifestly confuted by what is said already and is yet to be said for that you call the outward or mediate Revelation write words spoken from without though the best of words uttered from Christ in the dayes of his flesh or from any of the Apostles or Prophets and yet recorded in the Scriptures cannot reveal the Father nor the Son either they point only at that which reveals and were spoken and write for that end that people might come to the principle of true knowledge in themselves for first let us begin with Moses he was a man sent of God and of Christ he was inspired with the holy spirit Christ spoke in him to the people of the Jews and all these words could not reveal God nor his Son unto them the vail hung before Moses face and remains upon their hearts to this day in the reading of Moses words and by this vail their minds are blinded then come down to the Prophets who were sent of God come to David to Isaiah the evangelical Prophet so called who had very clear and glorious discoveries of God and his Son Jesus Christ yet could their words reveal God unto the people of the Iews or can they at this day no the vail remains then come to Jesus Christ himself who spoke to them in the dayes of his flesh face to face did his words reveal him or his Father unto them did they not mistake him for all this he stood in the midst of them and they knew him not for their eyes were held were blinded and thorough their ignorance they crucified him the Lord of glory but could the Apostles words reveal him either nay for they continued blind and persecuted them unto death as deceivers and blasphemers the god of this world have blinded that eye in them which could know the glorious appearance of him either in the dayes of his flesh or in his spiritual appearance in his people So then it is clear neither any of the Prophets or Apostles though they were lights yet they were
word of life declare we unto you that ye also may have fellowship with us and truly our fellowship is with the Father and with his Son Jesus Christ Lo how he decla●…eth that his fellowship was with the Son Jesus Christ. Though long before now his appearance after the Flesh was removed yet he had fellowship with that Life which remained and more gloriously appeared after he was taken up the Life which was in the beginning that he that heard saw and handled not with that which is born of the Flesh but of the Spirit and was partaker off even that Divine Nature or Life 2 Pet. 1. 4. And this Apostle Iohn calls it by other names such as the seed of God the Anointing or Unction the Truth c. And in Revel He calls it the Lamb and the Word of God And thus I have gone thorow Moses Prophets Christ himself in the dayes of his Flesh and his Apostles their Testimony concerning this Foundation or fundamental Principle which as they witnessed a Foundation and Fountain of Blessedness Life Joy and peace in themselves a substance beyond all Shaddows Words Pleasures Representations Comprehensions or Thoughts so they pointed their Hearers hereto and this was the work of their Ministry That people being brought to he●…r see handle and pareake of this Life in themselves they might have fellowship with them therein and so let People try themselves and the Churches they are Members off if they be built on this Foundation the Word of Life which was in the beginning or if they have never come to know any other Foundation as yet but words from without and from which they never knew any other ground to believe them but here say from man and not hearing the voice of God himself their Foundation is but false their Faith false their Church and Worship and their whole Religon is false and vain Argument II. And this was it to witt the Revelation of J●…us Christ and the hearing of his own Voice by which these who heard the Ministers and Apostles sent by him believed their words and the things by them declared for had it not been this they comeing forth declaring of such unheard of things and so unlike so unprobable so foolish to the wisdom of Flesh and Blood they could never have been received nor gained such ground upon the World as they did This is somewhat touched before but is some-what more fully to be treated of here being so weighty This was it that gave to the people a proof of their Ministracy and Call and message that it was of God he who sent them Christ the Word which was in the beginning and spoke in them to the people the same spoke and beas Testimony to the same words and things declared by the words in the Hearts and Consciences of the hearers and this made them and their Doctrine Manifest they had no other proof so sufficient as this and this without any other was sufficient and so necessary that nothing else could certainly perswade them for many of the Prophets wrought no Miracles nor did they alwaies tell of things to come and how many were Converted to the Faith who never saw any outward Miracle wrought and these who were past feeling or discerning the witness of God in themselves would not believe for all the Miracles or other outward appearance they called them devilry and the like for their hearts were hardned and the heart that is hardned hath the ear that should hear stopped and the eye blinded so was it with Pharaoh and his servants yea and many times with the people of the Iews themselves but they who had the ear to hear the inward ear in the sensible heart did hear and such a power oft times went along with the Messengers of the Lord that it rent the hard Rockie heart and broke it in pieces and made i●… sensible and quickned the dead and opened an ear to hear the word in themselves and so the Lords Messengers declaring in the power and Word of God that spoke in them they directed them to hear that Word in themselves He that hath an 〈◊〉 to ●…ear said Iohn let him hear what the Spiri●… saith to the Churches And Ie●…miah said If ye will not hear within in secret as I have read it in a Latin Translation my Soul shall weep for you Hear the word of the Lord said they this was their Authority their Proof they had not a●… he and as this cleared their Call and the truth of their Message in themselves so did it in their hearers and nothing else could do it but that Word the word of Truth the word of Faith to which Moses pointed the Iews and Paul the Romans in their hearts and this made them Manifest and their Doctrine and witnessed to them was a Seal of confirmation unto it I have given him said the Lord as it is writ Isa. 55. 4. For a witness to the People and Revel 1. 5. He is called the faithfull witness See further Mal. 3. 5. Mica 1. 2. Clear Testimonies for this and he who believed had the witness in himself 1 Iohn 5. 10. He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness Christ the witness in himself and in the Testimony of this witness which said Amen to the words spoken thorow the Lords Messengers stood ther Faith not in their words but in the word in themselves testifying thereto and they believed not because they heard them but because they heard himself as did the Samaritans John 4. 42. And this is the Testimony of God which is greater than the Testimony of Man for which it is blessed and so their Faith stands in that which cannot be shaken let men be shaken and tossed and driven to another thing or testimony yet the Foundation of the Lord standeth sure having this Seal this Witness in ones self and the Faith that comes thus stands in the power of God the word of Power which witnesseth in them God speaking himself in them and this is the so called formal object of Faith Papists and Protestants so contend for both agreeing in this That it is God speaking which is the formal object But quoth the Papists It is the speaking in the Church of Rome and so upon the matter They make it her Tradition No quoth the now Protestant the degenerate Protestant for the pure primitive Protestants owned the true Foundation with us though their discovery of it was but little God speaking in the Scriptures is the object formal of our Faith or Foundation of it viz. The chief moving cause or medium ex parte Objecti why the Scriptures are to be believed which is in effect to make the Scriptures themselves it for they deny that God speaks in Man's heart or reveals immediately in man by voice or word of mouth from himself by way of object So that that which is heard seen or felt is not any object imrevealed from God himself that word it self
give the understanding sense true interpretation of them Jesus Christ he himself is the great Interpreter the one of a Thousand J●… 33. 23. Even he who met the two Disciples in 〈◊〉 w●…y going to Ema●…s and beginning at Moses and all the 〈◊〉 expounded into them in all the Scriptures the things concerning himself and it is clear that he spoke outwardly to them by word of Mouth so he spoke inwardly by his Spirit into their hearts and therefore they said one to another Did not our hearts burn within us while he talked with us by the way and while he opened to us the Scriptures Luke 24. 27 32. Now what made this burning of their hearts within them but the powerful appearance of his Spirit which wrought in them as fire which dispelled these clou●…y mists of Darkness which covered as a vaile the eye of their understandings whereby they could not perceive the things written of him and 't is said concerning the other Disciples and Apostles ver 45. Then opened he their understandings that they might understand the Scriptures And that the words spoke from without could not do this is clear from his own Testimony Iohn 6. 63. It is the Spirit which quickneth the Flesh profiteth nothing the Words that I speak unto you they are Spirit and they are Life and Job 32. 8. The Inspiration of the Almighty gives understanding This is that which opens the Scriptures else they are a sealed book and how weak and dark were the Disciples whilst Christ abode with them in his bodily appearance how many things were shut up from them even although they had some knowledg which Flesh and Blood had not revealed to them but his Father in Heaven yet the Spirit not being pouered forth in such a measure of glorious Manifestation as afterwards they received till then they were Ignorant of many things See Iohn 14. 9. Iohn 16. 16. 17. Compared with 25. Math. 16. 8. 9. Math. 16. 21. 22. Iohn 11. 13. Iohn 13. 28. Luke 9. 44. Luke 9. 33. Math 17. 23. Acts 1. 6. And especially the mistery of his Dying and Rising again and the coming of his Kingdom was much hid from them therefore he said Iohn 16. 12 13. I have yet many things to say unto you but ye cannot bear them now Howbeit when the Spirit of Truth is Come he will guide you into all Truth for he shall not speak of himself but whatsoever he shall hear that shall he speak c. And so when the Spirit was poured out then their understandings were opened and they called to remembrance many things spoke by him in the daies of his Flesh and then they understood them No Prophecy of the Scripture saith Peter is of any private Interpretation 2 Pe●… 1. 20. But according to the Greek and Bezars Translation the words are more plain No Prophecy of the Scripture is of a Man 's own Interpretation Prophecy Explications the Man who spoke the Scriptures from the Spirit of God was not to Interpret them of himself nor in his own will so neither was any other to Interpret them but that Spirit which first gave them forth was to Interpret them For the things of God knoweth no Man save the Spirit of God 1 Cor. 2. 11. And if it be so among Men T●…t the Law maker is only admitted in point of Controversie the expounder of the Law and if he who writes a Book amongst men be accounted the fittest to Interpret or give the sence or meaning of his words how much more is it necessary that the Spirit of the Lord which gave forth the Scriptures be the expounder of them especially seeing the Scriptures declare of such things that are so Mysterious to the natural understanding of Man or to his natural reason that they are quite above its comprehending or conceiving of them I say not contrary to his Reason to witt that Spirit Principle or faculty in Man which can judge truly or certainly of things Natural and this is also of God but the Mysteries of Salvation whereof the Scriptures treat though they be not contrary as is said yet they are above the reach of this Principle or Power of discerning as the things of reason are above the things of the senses bodily so the things of Faith are above the things of Reason to witt that Reason or Principle which can judge truly of things Natural for I Like not to contend about words I acknowledg the Principle of Faith is and may be fitly called rational and the believer is the most rational man in the World and the very wisdom of God is Reason or Understanding and that wisdom wherewith he denies his servants from above is also reason but it 's not the Natural reason for before man was endued with the Heavenly Wisdom he had the Natural Reason or Understanding but then he neither had nor could have the knowledge of the things of God to witt The Misteries of Salvation This is that which the Apostle plainly declares 1 Cor. 2. 14. But the Natural Man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God for they are foolishness unto him neither can he know them because they are spiritually discerned Lo how he makes them impossible to be known to the Natural Man or understanding because the knowledge of them stands in an other Principle in that which is born of the Spirit of God the Seed of God that can only know them they are spiritually discerned And this further Consideration will yet make it more appear That man of himself without the Revelation and Inspiration of the Spirit of God cannot understand the things of God and so cannot Interpret the Scriptures declaring of them because Man as he stands in the Fall and not come to be Regenerate lives and is quite sunkinto a Wisdom Knowledg and Understanding that is altogether contrary to the wisdom of God and the true knowledg of God it is true as is already said there is somewhat in man which Judgeth truly and pertinently of things Natural and this of it self is not contrary to the wisdom of God but a gift of God and is of good use to Man were it in its right place and by this man properly is a Man he has a rational Principle in him whereby in this he excells the Beast of the Field but now man in the Fall stands not in this Principle it rules not in him there is another birth in man which Lords it and rules in him and this birth is of the Devils begetting and hereby Man is a Child of the Devill For this Seed whereof this Birth is begotten was sown into mans heart when he Fell and it has ever propagated and spread it self through Adams Posterity since and this Seed and Birth has a Wisdom and Knowledge which is Carnal Earthly and Devilish and is direct opposite and contrary to the wisdom of God as every thing of this birth is contrary to every thing of the birth of the Spirit
Learning Now I acknowledg that some Scriptures are more plain and open than others and the spiritual man the understanding man who has revealed a true Judgment and pure discerning from the Lord he can know what Scripture is more plain and what more obscure and so standing in the wisdom of God and in his Counsel he may compare Scripture with Scripture and Spiritualls with Spiritualls and so he may open up the obscure from the plain and reason and reduce consequents From the more plain to open up the more obscure and this which reasons which co●…p 〈◊〉 which judges in him of Scriptures and what consequence may be drawn must be that of the Spirit of the Lords begetting in him which cannot judge amiss but it alwaies judges righteous Judgment and so the opening up the Scripture more obscure from the more plain will be of good service in its place to the hearer for the speaker opening Scripture in the wisdom and Power of God reaches the seed in Man and the plainest Scripture is apt to reach and the Lord standeth near to testifie to the words so interpreted and this witness in Man's Conscience answers to the truth of what is declared and so I acknowledg there is great use and service in the interpreting of Scriptures when the interpreter hath his gift of God and keeps within his measure and speaks according to the analogie or proportion of Faith according to what is revealed to him the measure of the gift of Christ Ephes. 4. 7. This is that which Paul makes the rule of interpretation See 2 Cor. 10. 13. We will not boast said he of things without our measure but according to the measure of the rule which God hath described unto us see further Rom. 15. 18. 19. 2 Cor. 4. 13. Rom. 12. 3. compared with Phil. 6. 3 15. 16. Lo how in this place he presses no man further to believe him or be of the same mind with him then according to what God hath revealed to him if any man be other wayes minded God shall reveal even this to him nevertheless whereto we have already attained let us walk by the same rule see how he makes the measure of attainment The Rule but now a man medling with the interpretation of Scripture in his own wisdom out of the wisdom of God how can he but err if he come to read and compare Scripture with Scripture and so to open up one Scripture from another with that eye which cannot but Judge amiss the Light of the Body is the Eye if therefore the Eye be single the whole body is full of Light but if the Light in him be Darkness how great is his Darkness the Eye of that wisdom in him which is contrary to the wisdom of God being Judge in him it must of necessity Judge amiss especially seeing that Scripture words in themselves abstracting from the mind of the Spirit of Christ which such have not are admittable of different Interpretations not only different readings according to the Translations which differ but the same word being rightly Translated may in themselves rightly considered have different meanings how then shall the meaning of the Spirit be had without its own reaching what an impossible thing were it to hit right upon the true sense or interpretation without the Spirit of God though there were nothing in m●…n that had a byass or prejudice against the Truth but now that Spirit which is of this World and is contrary to the Spirit of God and his truth being Judge in him this makes it far more impossible So it 's a thing of great weight and concernment for a man to know of what Spirit he is what Spirit is Judge in him what Spirit leads him what eye is open in him for according to this so will be the interpretation of Scripture for although they say that Scripture expounds Scripture yet at best it 's but that by which it is expounded but now that Spirit or Principle or Wisdom in man which compares Scripture with Scripture which reasons and draweth consequences and judges of them that is the interpreter So the result of all is such is the Judgment and Interpretation according to the right or wrong Spirit which rules in him and the wrong Spirit cannot but wrest add to and take from Scripture and the Curse is pronounced against it and the right Spirit the Spirit of God and the eye which it opens in man cannot judge amiss it passeth alwaies Righteous Judgment And O that men would consider this so weighty a thing who go on so rashly to meddle with Scripture and give meanings to it what Spirit they are of what is that in them which gives the meaning of it if it be not the heavenly wisdom it cannot but wrest and what is the reason that there are so many different Religions in the World and opinions one contrary to another whereas the Truth and true Religion is but one and so many hundred different interpretations of Scripture but that mens minds are gone from the Spirit of truth which would make them all of one mind and open the like eye in all and then all would judg as unanimously of Scripture as now the bodily eye judges of things visible men make no contest or jarring about what they see looking upon the same objects through the same midst with the like eye which being sound makes all their judgments one and till men come to the one Spirit which opens the like eye in all they can never be of one mind and whereas people so much ask at us whom made ye judge of interpreting of Scripture I say the measure of the gift in every one the measure of the wisdom given of God and till Man come to this and judges in it or rather it in him he steps up into the place of Judgment which belongs not to him and he ought not to Judge And I may shut up all concerning this particular with a word of advice to such who are so ready to meddle with Interpretation of Scriptures giving meanings on them and are so confident they are right and yet many of them are not come to the fear of God which is the beginning of that wisdom which only can judge aright of Scriptures To such I say Take heed to your Spirits be jealous over them know what Spirit ye are of for on this thing depends all if this be not known if ye be in the doubt concerning this ye know nothing yet truly for the Principle being doubtful the foundation being uncertain so much of necessity be the whole superstructure Argument 13. And now as I have demonstrated how that by the Revelation of the Spirit of Jesus Christ in Man he only can know God and the things of his Kingdom and the Scriptures with their interpretation so I am to show that hereby can man only know himself and the state he stands in before God whether Justified or Condemned without this he
next proof is 2 Pet. 1. 19. We have a more sure word of Prophecy c. Answ. Supposing but not at all granting hereby he meaned the Scriptures writ or spoke from without he points them to this but till the day dawn and the Day star arise Now some were come to the day and were Children of the day and had the day star arisen in them and then they needed not the Light of the Moon or night starrs But I have shewed before this word of Prophecy is the word in the Heart which was in the beginning before Scriptures was and is that word that came to David Isai Ieremiah and inspired them from which the Scripture came and this Word in my heart maketh me believe the Scriptures and is the more sure and Manifest Word or the most sure as it s in Beza's Translation even surer than Scripture Words which outward violence can rob me off or I may forget them but this remaineth for ever and here lyeth a great deceipt in them where Scripture speaks of the Word and it's Vertue and Excellency and Sufficiency O say they This is Scripture whereas I have shewed though the Scriptures declare of that word yet they are not it but came from it and point to it again for the word is Christ which was in the beginning The next proof Heb. 1. 1 2. This directly proves against them as I have shewed before God spoke to the Fathers in the Prophets but to us in the Son that is more Immediately The next proof Luk. 16. 29. 31. This proves that Moses and the Prophets Testimony is of greater weight then if any should arise and testifie from the dead but it proves nothing that we should stick only to what is written by them for much was writ after nor does it prefer Moses and the Prophets Testimony to the Testimony of the Spirit of Christ this is more certain and satisfactory and the end of their Testimony Their next proof is Ephes. 2. 20. Hereby they would prove That the writeings of the Prophets and Apostles were the foundation of the Church but this Scripture sayes nothing of that kind for Jesus Christ is the Foundation of Prophets and Apostles and the chief or undermost Corner-Stone he is both Foundation-Stone Corner-Stone and Cop-Stone also the First and the Last and there is no other Foundation saith Paul himself 1 Cor. 3. 11. and that Scripture is fully cleared above Their next proof 2 Pet. 3. 15. 16. 17. But of all the Scriptures they have brought this proves least for them but much against them for it mentions Pauls Epistles and Writings which we own and their usefulness also in their place but it sayes nothing that either his Writing or any other are a compleat Cannon or Rule or that Revelation is Ceased but it sayes some things in them are hard to be understood which the unlearned and unstable wrest c. Then I say there is the more need of Revelation to make a man Learned and to open up these hard things seeing only the Spirit of Wisdom and Revelation can sufficiently do it as is above Demonstrated The next proof is Gal. 1. 8 9. If any man or an Angel from Heaven Preach any other Gospel unto you let him be accursed Answer The Gospel was Preached unto Abraham saith the Scripture Gal. 3. 8. as well as unto us and it was Preached unto Abel Enoch Noah and to all believers who lived before Scripture was writ in a book and it was spoken into their Hearts by the Spirit of Jesus Christ and the Saints who then lived and were Inspired of God preached the Gospel and the Gospel is the same in all Generations for it is the everlasting Gospel Rev. 4. 6. But now the Declarations Discoveries and Manifestations of this one Gospel hath been many and different under the Law more darkly in the time of the Prophets more Manifestly in the time of the Apostles yet more Manifestly and yet all one Gospel and we Preach no other but the same everlasting Gospel which is the Power of God unto Salvation Rom. 1. 16. The last proof is 2 Thess. 2. 2. Wherein Paul beseeches them not to be shaken in mind or troubled neither by Spirit nor Word nor Letter as from him as that that day of Christ were at hand but this proves nothing against the Inspiration of the Spirit of God as if it were then ceased or to cease for it continued with him and many others long afterwards only it proves they should not recite any such Doctrine a●… that That day were suddenly to come he speaks of though some should 〈◊〉 it as proceeding from the Spirit or from Pauls Words or Letters and so that they might not be deceived by pretenders as is said because some has falsely pretended to the Spirit it follows not that none have it in reality And thus I have gone thorow all their Proofs and shewed that they prove no such thing as is intended by them but are abused O j. 5. We much suspect this Doctrine of Immediate Revelation and are feared to receive it lest people coming to this slight the Scriptures and a Ministry Worship and Ordinances for we find you so doing who say ye are come to it and what use hath Scripture or Ministr●… if God teach Immediately by the Immediate Revelation of his Spirit Answ. This Doctrine ought not to be suspected by any-honest hearted Man or Woman for it will never teach any to slight the Scriptures but on the contrary They will never know how to use or esteem the Scriptures aright till they come to that Life and Spirit which gave them forth and to which they point and these who were formerly Inspired of God and were taught of him Immediately used and esteemed the Scriptures nor slighted any Ministry Worship or Ordinances of Jesus Christ as neither do we and we acknowledge the Ministry who are sent of God is both useful and comfortable to us and we are bound to hear them and acknowledge them and at all times have we found their Ministry usefull and refreshing unto us having Ministered of the Life and their Gospel came unto us not in Word only but in Power and in the holy Ghost and in much Assurance as Pauls did unto them 1 Thess. 1. 5. And we have also been refreshed with their Prayers in the heart and found the fruit of them and now in our measures are brought to the same Life and yet their Ministry will alwayes be dear and comfortable to us but not absolutely necessary being come to a Teacher even the Spirit of Jesus Christ that cannot be removed into a Corner from us when all men may and be seperated from us and we from them as to bodily presence but indeed who come to the Teachings and Ministry of the Spirit of Christ in themselves this will lead them as it hath done us from the Natural Ministry Worship and Ordinances for that they neither Worship nor