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hate the Church of Rome 3. So that the Reformed have had a Church and their Religion before Luther A Refutation of this shift of the Jesuites That because Luther was in Error in Regard of his doctrine of Consubstantiation Therefore his Refutations of their Opinions and Doctrines is not to be considerable 1. THis is a strange shift indeed for is it not a miserable perverseness in the Jesuites and others Popish Doctors and Writers that being not able to maintain their own Heresies against Luther they will think to escape in the Judgement of Men from being condemned because Luther himself in one point of Doctrine erred 2. May no man convince Error but such an one as is free from Error at all Himself 3. The Scriptures are left unto us to be our Rule of Truth by them must all Doctrine be squared and directed they sit in the highest Seat of Judgement to give Sentence in every Cause 4. With Them did Luther cut down the Popish Errors 5. But one Error of Luther cannot serve to excuse infinite Errors in the Popish Church The Reformed of England France Holland c. do not Believe whatsoever the late Writers have said 1. WE are not so addicted in these Reformed Churches as to Believe whatsoever the late Writers have said 2. We are no more partial unto them in this behalf then we are unto the Ancient Fathers 3. Our Religion and Faith hangeth not upon the sayings of Men be they old or young but onely upon the Canonical Scriptures of God 4. And if they be against us so long as Scripture is for us our Cause is good and we will not be ashamed thereof 5. From hence it followeth That therefore most false is it that the Papists say That our Divity resteth upon these late Writers and young Fathers whom the Jesuites and other Popish Doctors do so scornfully compare with the Old Fathers 6. We use not to alledge for proofs authentical of any Doctrine and as the Rule of our Faith Calvin Bucer or others 7. But our Traditive and Use is this Thus saith the Lord Thus say the Prophets Thus say the Apostles Thus the Evangelists Thus it is written in the Scriptures Thus we read in some Book of the Old or of the New Testament Again If Luther or any other Learned Man among the Protestants or of the Reformed in the Churches above mentioned have either Interpreted the Scripture in somthing amiss or have doubted of some one Book of Scripture whereof doubt also hath been made of old in the Church of Christ we are not to defend their Expositions or to approve their Judgement Again The particular Opinions of Luther and Lutherans are not to be objected by the Papists against the Reformation of England France the United Provinces c. 1. FOr these Reformed Churches are not bound to justifie all Luthers sayings and the Lutherans and their private Opinions no more then the Papists will be content to avouch whatsoever hath been spoken or published by any one or other famous man of their Sect. 2. Which thing if they will take upon them to perform then let them profess it or else they offer us the more injury that object still against us a saying which was never either uttered or allowed by us 3. This might suffice men of indifferent Reason § Of Luthers Error concerning the Bodily Presence in the Sacrament LVther retained this Error of his old leaven wherewith in time of Papistry his Judgement was corrupted § Another Answer of the Reformed to the Objection made by the Jesuites against Luther in regard of his Error of Consubstantiation That therefore his Refutation of their Doctrine is not to be considerable THe Reformed again return this answer to that Objection 1. That although Luther therein somthing swarved from the Truth yet that he might bring in other Causes assured thereof out of the Word of God reject the Opinions of such as dissent from the same word 2. Otherwise no Man in Defence of Gods Truth may challenge or bid Defiance to the Adversaries thereof seeing they have no Priviledge or Charter granted to them but that themselves also may be deceived § Again Concerning Luther 1. LVther say the Reformed was an excellent Man and a worthy servant of Christ 2. Whose Ministery especially it pleased God to use in revealing to these Times the Son of Perdition who fitteth in the Temple of God and advanceth himself above God 3. Yet Luther was a Man 4. And therefore no marvel if he were not exempted altogether as from Ignorance so also from Infirmities § Concerning the Contention between Luther and Zuinglius about the Sacrament of the Lords Supper 1. 1. THis Contention and Dissention was a very hard one hotly debated in many Books 2. And the same hath continued since to the great hinderance of the Gospel and offence of many 3. In which contrary Writings and Discourses are found oftentimes harder speeches of either against other then were to be wished 4. Now do come in the Popish Writers like crafty enemies and gathering a heap of such speeches out of sundry of their Books do insert the same in their Books to make their Readers acquainted therewith that seeing such earnest contention among the chiefest Professors of the Gospel they may be further withdrawn in alienation of mind from the love and liking thereof 2. Examination of that matter 1. THose speeches of either against other which are harder oftentimes then were to be wished are yet such as the godly Servants of the Lord in contention about the Truth somtimes are moved to utter against their Brethren 1. S. Paul openly and sharply reprehended S. Peter to his face whereat wicked Porphyrie catched a like occasion to rail at Christian Religion long since as our Adversaries do at these dayes 2. What a violent and troublesome contention was there between Theophilus of Alexandria and good Chrysostome of Constantinople 3. Who knoweth not how sharply Cyrillus a learned and wise Bishop of Alexandria hath written against Theodoretus a good and Catholick Bishop in a Controversie touching the Catholique Faith both Bishops both Catholiques both Learned both Godly both Excellent Pillars of the Church And yet he that readeth both their Writings would think that both were dangerous Enemies of the Church and of the Faith of Christ and to be avoided of all Christians 2. So in the Books of Luther and of Zuinglius and of those that maintain either part appeareth we grant great sharpness and bitterness of Dissention who all notwithstanding if we set the heat of Dissention aside were as godly as learned as zealous Christians as the World had any The Reformed Religion and Church are not Heretical 1. WHat if the Romish Church condemned Luther Shall we say therefore that Luther is an Heretick 2. The Church of Jerusalem condemned Christ and Him and his they would have denyed to be the true Church but for all their Denial it was not less the true Church 3. The
as much as the Apostles had taken Pains To Teach That All Sacrifices had Ended in Christ They did Delight to call their Sacrifices Immolations Oblations Sacrifices They call The Lords Table His Altar The Commemoration of his Death in the Sacrament The Sacrifice of the Altar A Holy Host They call the Bishops and Ministers Priests The Deacons Levites c. Manners of Speech among Them well understood Which in those Ages were not Hurtful But in the Following More Ignorant And farther off from the Light have notwithstanding been the Cause of great Abuses Because they are Passed from the Figure to the Thing And from an Improperty of Words in an Error of Doctrine 2. The Gentiles Also had a Multitude of Gods To them All They Had Builded Temples Founded Altars and Sacrifices Suddenly and at a clap To Restrain Them To the Service of one God which is all Spirit And his Service all Spiritual They who were Carnal Besotted after Pomps and Ceremonies And after the Wood And Stones Was found by Humane Prudence Both Scandalous and Impudent In Regard That these Gentiles were to be Edified And not Destroyed Fed said They with milk Before They were Fed with Solid Meat For Thus this Place of Scripture was Abused Whereas Then the First Antiquity had bluntly contested That to have Many Gods was to have None That to Serve Any Creature was to forsake the Creator It was found sweet by Succession of Times To Transform Their Gods into Saints Their Goddesses into She Saints To put our Apostles and our Martyrs in Their Place To Dedicate unto Them Their Temples And Their Altars To Give them some Priests And some High Priests To Appoint To Them Holy Dayes And Honours And Services 3. Now As Humane Wit is Blind in the Things of God It Happened That under the Shadow To Draw to Christ The Jewes and the Gentiles Those Good Folks by a Laps of some Ages did Introduce mildly in the Church Both The Judaisme And the Paganisme We understand Their Ceremonies And their Outward Pomps Their Superstitions And Vanities And which is worse Many of their Presumptions And Anticipated opinions in the Doctrine it self The Religion And Church of Rome Is not Now What it was in the Beginning 1. TO Judge aright of the Roman Church we say that there is great difference between that which is now And that which was in the time of the Apostles And some Ages after their Death 2. That which was in the Time of the Apostles was Pure and Orthodox So that her Faith was spoken of throughout the whole world Rom. 1.8 3. After the Death of the Apostles during some Ages she hath been also a true Church But not the onely True Church Not the Catholick or Universal Church But a Part of the same As was the Church of Greece of Syria of Egypt And of other Places She hath been a True Church but not so Pure as in the Apostles time Errors betimes having begun to creep in her 4. But the Roman Church which is now is an Impure and Heretical Church And more Heretical than any one that ever was before Since the Plague of Antichristianisme have sticked unto her it is no more the Chaste Spouse of Christ but an Harlot And an Adulteresse It is no more a sound and vigorous body but a body full of ulcers and soars In a word she is no more Pure and Orthodox as she was before but Impure and Heterodox 5. Which we prove by two strong and Irrefragable Arguments The 1. is because the greater part of her Faith and belief is contary to holy Scriptures And consequently is meer Heresie The 2. is because a great part of the Ancient Heresies which have been condemned by the Ancient and Orthodox Church are received in her and approved by her 6. I have said 1. That the now Church of Rome is Impure Heretical because the greater part of her Faith and belief is contrary to holy Scriptures 1. Scriptures forbids the use of Images in matter of Religion and Divine Worship The Church of Rome receives and maintains them 2. The Scripture teacheth us that the bloud of Christ doth cleanse us from all sin The Church of Rome doth establish another Purgatory 3. The Scripture teacheth us that of our selves we are not able to think any good Thing but but that all our sufficiencie is from God The Church of Rome will that by the strength of our Free-will we may do good works And make the said strength to cooperate with the Grace of God 4. The Scripture will that we pray and speak in the Church in a known Tongue All the Service of the Church of Rome is in an unknown Language 5. The Scripture doth ordain that in the Sacrament of the Lords Supper all drink of the Cup The Church of Rome hath forbid it to the Laity 6. The Scripture presents us Jesus Christ as the only Mediator between God and Men The Church of Rome doth forge a great number of Mediatours who are to help us with their Merits and with their Suffrages 7. The Scripture doth warn us concerning Christ Acts 3.21 That the Heaven must receive him until the time of restitution of all things The Church of Rome will in some sort make him to come down every day from Heaven in a million of Places And moreover exposes him under the accidents of bread to divers ignominies 8. In a word there is no Proposition mentioned against us in the Church of Rome whereof we may not be able to find the Antithesis in the Word of God In that regard there are many to be found in the said Church of Rome which are asham'd of the abovesaid Errors And except the brainlesse Spirits and resolved to maintain even the grosest Abuses few Persons will there be found who entirely keep their Religion And in some Points thereof do not find something wanting 7. I have said 2. that the now Church of Rome is Impure and Heretical because a great part of the Ancient Heresies which have been condemned by the Ancient and Orthodox Church are received in her and approved by her Those Heresies meet in her and do compound a part of Popery As all the Waters of Rivers and Springs do meet in the Sea The Devil hath made them to rise up again upon the stage in the Roman Church with some small disguising Her so insolent contempt and debasing of Holy Scriptures she hath common with all kinds of Hereticks to whom such a thing is usual She doth borrow from the Pharisees the nonwritton Traditions And the Merit of Works She borroweth from the Basilidians and the Carpoeratians the worshipping of Images She hath from the Marcosians of whom Epiphanius doth speak And from the Eutichians against whom Theodoret and Vigilius doe so excellently dispute the Error of Transubstantiation She hath from the Messalians the Euchetes her vain repetitions of Prayers by number She hath from the Manichees the Montanists the Marcionites the
Depart out of thy Mouth Nor out of the Mouth of thy Seed Nor out of the Mouth of thy Seeds Seed saith the Lord from henceforth and for ever And Such Like Answer to this Third Objection 1. TO what Purpose doth this Objection serve the Popish Writers Or what Argument may the Perpetuity Of Christs Universal Church afford Them against our former Assertion 2. We Believe and Confesse to the Comfort of our Souls That Christs Church hath continued And shall never fail so long as the world endureth 3. And we account it a prophane Heresie to teach that Christs Universal Church hath Perished from the Earth at any Time For this Assertion shaketh the Foundation of all Faith and Religion 4. But the Popish Writers who makes this Objection Should prove by invincible evidence of Scripture That the Catholick Universal Church of Christ is nothing Else But the Outward Succession of the Roman See If They can Prove This They should Prove their Objection Soundly And should confute our Opinion Truely 5. But it is a Thing which They cannot Doe They cannot bring us Either Texts of Scriptures or Reasons To shew that Christs Church Either is the Popes Succession Or Else dependeth upon the same See 6. For as Touching External Shew And Succession of Churches The Scriptures have foretold Apoc. 12. and 13.16 That Antichrist shall Seduce Great and Small Rich and Poor Free and Bond And that the Church shall flie into the Wildernesse And there Remain Of all which no word could be true If the Catholick Church were tied To the Popes Chaire And the Popes Chaire were the Rock That cannot be removed 7. And yet notwithstanding this General Dispersion And the Flight of the Church under Antichrist The Catholick Church shall for all That Continue 8. Although not in that outward strength And Glory In which sometimes it hath appeared And Flourished 4. Objection Of the Popish Writers Against the above Exercitations That the Now Church of Rome is Changed And is not Now what it was in the Beginning What Impudence is This say the said Writers There was never Heresie that Assaulted the Church of Rome Of which it carried not the Victory As Over the Donatists Over Jovinian Over Pelagius the Britain And over Others Answer to this Fourth Objection 1. THe Triumphs of which the Popish Writers do boast of Are no more proper to the Now or Latter Church of Rome Then the Triumphs of old Rome Over Pyrrhus Over Annibal Over Perses Over Antiochus are to be esteemed the Triumphs of Rome Now Being 2. And for the pretended Victory over Pelagius the Britain we say that he Triumphed over the Popish Kingdome For did he not Teach That Grace was imbred in Nature And the Popish Crew of Jesuites Defendeth the same Who seeth not then Pelagius sitting in the Popish Triumphant Chariot Popery is not of the first and Primary Antiquity That is many of the present Doctrines of the Church of Rome And in what Time Errors were received in it 1. PApists are not able to produce any Record Expresse and direct testimony Canon of Council or Ecclesiastical constitution For their burning Lights in the Church at noon day before the Decree of Pope Sabinianus in the year of our Lord 605. 2. Nor for Rome to be the Head of all Churches before Pope Boniface the Third in the year 606. 3. Nor for the Invocation of Saints in their Publick Lithurgy before Boniface the Fifth in the year 618. 4. Nor for their Latine Service thrust upon all Churches before Pope Vitalian in the year 666 which is the very number of the name of the Beast 5. Nor for the Cutting of the Host into three parts and offering one part for the Souls in Purgatory before Pope Sergius in the year 688. 6. Nor for setting up Images in Churches Generally and worshipping them before Pope Adrian the First and the Second Council of Nice in the year 787. 7. Nor for Canonization of Saints departed before Leo the Third about the year 800. 8. Nor for the Orall Manducation of Christs Body in the Sacrament before Pope Nicholas the Second in the year 1053. 9. Nor for the entire number of seven Sacraments before Peter Lombard in the year 1140. 10. Nor for Indulgences before Engenius the third in the year 1145. 11. Nor for Transubstantiation of the Bread into Christs body before the Fourth Council of Lateran in the year 1215. 12. Nor for the Elevation of the Host that the People might adore it before Honorius the Third in the year 1216. 13. Nor for any Jubilee before Pope Boniface the Eighth in the yeer 1300. 14. Nor for the Carrying the Sacrament in Procession under a Canopy before Pope Vrban the Fifth In the year 1262. 15. Nor for the Day and half Communion before the Council at Constance in the year 1416. 16. Nor for the suspending the Efficacy of Sacramental Consecration upon the Priests Intention before the Council at Florence in the year 1439. 17. Nor for the Popes Superiority to General Councils before the Sixt Council at Lateran under Leo the Tenth in the year 1517. 18. Nor the vulgar Latine Translation to be held for Authentical And upon no pretended Cause whatsoever to be reiected before the fourth Session of the Council of Trent in the year 1546. 19. Nor for the Second book of the Macchabees and the Apocryphal Additions to Hester and Daniel with the History of Bell and the Dragon which S. Jerome termeth a Fable to bereceived for Canonical Scripture before the said Session in the year above named 1. Frande 1. These be the Principles and Grounds of Faith and Worship that the Church of Rome doth Produce 1. Scriptures 2. Traditions of the Apostles 3. The Catholick Church 4. General Councils 5. The Ancient Fathers 6. The Pope which she calls the Supream Pastour of the Church 2. These be the Fraudes of the Church of Rome Concerning all the Principles and Rules above Produced The 1. of those Fraudes is That the Church of Rome careth indeed for none of Them but for the last which is The Determination of her Pope 1. THe Scripture must not be Scripture in any other Sense then as the Pope will Expound So that the Scripture being the Meaning of the Scripture And the Meaing of the Scripture being the Popes Exposition Hereof it followeth That the Scripture is nothing else but the Popes Interpretation 2. So Likewise In Traditions In Doctors In Councils In Churches If any Thing Dissent from the Popes understanding and Determination It is Rejected Abolished Condemned 3. And Finally all Faith all Religion all Divinity of the Church of Rome is only the Popes Sacred will and pleasure Papists give the Churches Authority to the Pope And take all Authority quoad nos from the Scripture So that by the Church they understand the Pope 1. THe Papists 1. take all Authority from the Scripture 2. They give it to the Church And 3. They give the Churches Authority to
the Pope 2. I say 1. That the Papists take all Authority quoad nos from the Scripture which appears in that they teach that it is not the ground or pillar of truth Nor properly and of it self any Cause or Means of Belief or of Charity And that God doth not immediately speak by it Neither is the Holy Ghost joined with the writing of the Scripture And that the Church is not subject to the Scripture And that put case any person living out of the Communion of the Roman Church do read or study the Scripture it is not the word of God to them or of greater Authority then Aesops Fables 3. I have said 2. That the Papists give all Authority to the present Roman Church This appears in that they make it the onely External ground and pillar of Truth The sole Judge of Controversies The principle or first ground and foundation from whence the Scripture in regard of men receiveth all Authority 4. I have said 3. That the Papists give the Churches Authority to the Pope And no Papist in these daies can or will deny This. For 1. the Positive Speeches of their greatest Doctors thereupon manifestly confirms it Ecelesiae nomine saith Gregorius de Valentia intelligimur ejus Caput Romanum Pontisicem Tom. 3. Dist 1. q. 1. part 1. pag 30. And Bannes 9.2 q. 1. Ar. 10. Animadvertendum est cum Cajetano c. quod apud Thomam pro eodem omnino reputatur Authoritas Ecclesiae universalis Authoritas Concilii Et Authoritas Summi Pontisicis 2. The same Assertion followeth upon the main principles of their Doctrine which are That the Pope is the prime subject of Ecclesiastical Authority And that the whole Authority of all the Body and of all the Members thereof is derived by and from him And that the promise of the perpetual Assistance of the Holy Ghost And the Infallible judgement and the Supream Authority And other Priviledges are intailed upon his Tribunal The 2. of those Fraudes is That The Pope also is Taught by the Papists To be the true and Lawful Interpreter of the Sense of the Scriptures And the Supream Judge of Controversies Concerning Faith and Divine Worship 1. IT is most clear that the Jesuites make both the Scripture it self and the Interpretation of it to Depend upon the Authority of the Church 2. And the Church they call not the whole Multitude of Christians and Faithful Men 3. But they Restrain both the Name and the Nature of the Church 1. unto their Bishops 2. If Thereupon we Reformed object That their Bishops may Differ touching the Sense of the Scriptures so shall we be uncertain and shall not resolve which of them to Believe but they help this and Answer That General Councils must Decide and Determine all Questions and Controversies 3. Shall we then Rest in them No more then in then the other For the Pope must be Judge over the Councils 4. So in the Conclusion The whole Interpretation of Holy Scriptures is transferred to the Pope and must be fetched out of his Breast yea and as a proper Right he so challengeth the Power of Interpreting of the Scripture That whatsoever he thinketh That must be accounted the Sense and Meaning of them Refutation of this Doctrine of the Jesuits by the Reformed Doctors 1. THat which hath been said above is the Jesuites constant and perpetual property and disposition in interpreting the Scriptures 2. Which is full of Dotage Error and Falsehood void of Advise Knowledge and Wisdome 3. For what an Absurd and horrible Thing is it that the Sense and Meaning of the Holy Scripture should depend upon one mans Judgement and Voice 4. Specially being such a one as commonly the Bishops of Rome have been Unlearned Wicked Heretical 5. And hence have proceeded all the following goodly Interpretations 1. Take Eate That is you Priests say Private Masses 2. Drink ye all of This That is onely the Priests must Drink 3. Be ye Holy for I am Holy Therefore it is unlawful for the Ministers of the Word to marry a Wife Exception of the Jesuites Which of the Popes or what Catholick Writer ever concluded this out of that place Answer to this Exception Pope Syricius did first of all so Collect And after him Pope Innocent As it may be read in Gratian Dist. 31. cap. Tenere and Dist 82. cap. Proposuisti cap. Plurimos 4. This is another like Interpretation Give not holy things unto Doggs Therefore the people must be forbidden to read the Scriptures 5. What should we number up Innumerable more of the Popes and Papists Interpretations By which they do nothing but pervert and wrest the Scriptures In Particular These be the Frauds of the Church of Rome Concerning Her first Principle Which is the Scripture 1. Fraud The Papists making Shew to Receive the Scriptures for Ground and Rule of Faith Do Disgrace Them in Joyning Traditions with Them 1. FOr as the Scriptures are Grounds And Rule of true Doctrine So are They onely Grounds And Rule 2. And as in Matters of Faith Arguments ought principally to be drawn from Them so such Arguments onely conclude necessarily As even the Schoolman Thomas Aquinas doth Directly confesse 1. Part. 1. Quaest. Artic. 8. Ad. 2. 2. Fraud The Church of Rome which Produceth Scriptures for one of Her Principles And Rules hath indeed no sufficient Scriptures FOr in making an old rotten Translation which we may boldly call so being compared with the Original Word of Scripture to be the Authentical Word of God and denying the Original Faithful Texts which Moses the Prophets the Apostles the Evangelists did write to be the Word of God What doth she else but plainly as it were with one dash of a Penne Cancel the whole Scriptures 2. This Homely Latin Translation is the Papists Scripture 3. Coined and Canonized of late in the Councel of Trent And never before 4. And other Scripture have They none §. Of the Corruption of the vulgar Latine Translation more Fully 1. THe Reader of the vulgar Latin Translation may manifestly perceive That in it are manifold and almost infinite Faults of all sorts 1. By Adding 2. By O●●●●ing 3. By Mis●●●ing Of Letters Of Points Of 〈◊〉 And 〈…〉 4. By wrong interpreting the Original Text. 2. Wh●●●●●●lts The Popish Doctors shall never 〈…〉 ●●prove or Justifie Though They 〈◊〉 th●●selves never so much with Traveling and ●●●ing and seeking some Defence 3. When They have said what They can say for Maintenance of These Corruptions it shall for all that Appear By all Learning and Evidence of Reason that They have Neither the Old nor the New Testament in the Entire and Original Truth thereof Refutation of the Excessive Praises that the Semiminarie Priests of Rhemes gives to the English Rhemish Translation 1. 1. LEt the Seminarie Priests of Rhemes give what Commendation they will to their English Translation 2. We Reformed say against it That that Translation is the worst of all the Translations
the Ancient Fathers are not in such Assertions contrary to themselves 2. Were not the Apostles Holy Men when they dreamed of an Earthly Kingdom in this World Yet this Opinion is contrarie to a principal Article of our Faith Were They void of Holiness when they believed that the Gospel was to be preached to the Jews onely Which is greatly Derogatory to the Grace of God and Salvation of his people Then every Error doth not overthrow all holiness in the servants of God 3. In the Primitive Church many Holy Fathers were infected with the Error of Christs Reigning a thousand years on earth who notwithstanding are worthily accounted Saints of God 4. Cyprian and many Godly Bishops with him erred about the Baptism Ministred by Hereticks Yet lost they not for all that the Opinion and Name of Holy Bishops and Fathers 5. All such errors mentioned were such as in the before named Fathers did not raze the Foundation of the Gospel § There is great difference between the Errors of the Antient Fathers And those of the present Church of Rome And Popish Doctors 1. THe Fathers slipt a little The Popish Doctors and Papists are fallen headlong into the pit 2. The Fathers were overseen through infirmitle The Popish Doctors and Papists are blind of Malice 5. The Fathers scattered some Darnel in the Lords Field The Popish Doctors and Papists have plucked up by the Roots the good Corn. 4. The Fathers have suffered losse of this building being not agreeable to the foundation yet are saved The Popish Doctors and Papists overthrow indirectly and by good consequence the foundation it self And therefore continuing in these opinions what hope can they have to be saved § Examination of these words of Luther reproved by the Popish Writers That he was not moved though a thousand Austins Cyprians Churches be against him The Popish Writers BY these words say the Popish Writers Luther did shew that he was unmeasurable Arrogant and wilful Answer to that Accusation and Presumption 1. LVther's Spirit was far from this Insolent and Immoderate Presumption as may by his own words appear ‖ Contra Regem Angliae For he saith not that he more setteth by his own private judgment then he doth by all the Fathers and Doctors But he saith That he setteth against the sayings of the Fathers of Men of Angels of Devils the Word of the onely Eternal Majestie the Gospel And again immediately he saith The Word of God is above all The Majestie of God maketh with me That I care not though a thousand Augustines and Cyprians stood against we 2. Is this to set his private judgment against All the Fathers Is this Pride Is this Presumption Must Gods word and Majesty and Gospel yield to the judgment of Fathers be they never so many 3. Luther did not think so but meant this by the words alledged against him If Augustine or Gyprian or any other Father maintain any thing against Gods Word Luther or any other Minister of Christ may in such Case preferre his Judgement warranted by the word of God before theirs 4. If the Popish Doctors deny this they are not worthy to be called Christians 5. And yet closely They doe deny it in that they reprove Luther and condemn him for saying the same §. Objections against this Answer of the Reformed by the Popish Writers 1. Objection YOu Reformed say the said Writers can bring no Instance that ever the Ancient Fathers did so Answer of the Reformed to that Objection 1. HAve the Popish Writers forgotten what fell out in the first Council of Nice when the Fathers agreeing to dissolve the Marriage of Ministers were withstood by Paphnutius and yielded in the end Here one Paphnutius Judgement was preferred before all the other three hundreds of Fathers 2. And so oftentimes the Judgement of many hath been corrected by one S. Angustine saith whether of Christ Contra Petil. lib. 3. cap. 6. or of his Church or of any other thing that appertaineth to our Faith and Life I will not say We not to be compared to him that said Though we But as he added If an Angel from Heaven shall Preach any thing besides that ye have received in the Legal and Evangelical Scriptures let him be accursed If we may accurse them how many and whosoever they be that Teach contrary to the Prophetical and Apostolical Scriptures then may we prefer our Judgement in such Cases before them 3. In another place S. Augustine saith August Epist 19. For all these namely Fathers yea above all these the Apostle Paul offereth himself I flie to Him I appeal to Him from all Writers that think otherwise Thus was S. Augustine bold to write even to S. Jerome and feared not any suspicion either of Arrogancy or of Heresie for the same 4. Such Account then must we make of the Truth that we must stand with it against all the world and not for the Reverence of mens Persons give it over or betray it or be afraid to defend it 2. Objection THough the Fathers in the Councils of Nice of Ephesus of Chalcedon had alledged no direct and evident Place against Arius and Nestorius and Eutiches yet the Christian People was bound to believe them grounding themselves onely upon the Catholick and Universal Faith of the Churches before them Answer of the Reformed to that Objection 1. THis is boldly and bluntly spoken 2. These Godly and Catholick Fathers Assembled in Council against these Hereticks Confuted them by the Authority of Gods Word and as it were did cut the throat of their Heresies with the Sword of the Spirit This is onely the Weapon then used And with this they prevailed 3. As likewise have all other godly Councils ever done against the Hereticks and enemies of the Church The Fathers have Errors and the Doctors of the Roman Church do acknowledge it 1. IT is confessed by our Adversaries that the Fathers had their Errors 2. And themselves in divers cases challenge and censure them 3. There is none of the Fathers saith Stapleton in which something erroneous may not be observed And Anselm saith in the books of those holy Doctors which the Church readeth as Authentical some things are found wicked and heretical And Mulhusinus the Jesuite We know the Fathers were men and erred sometimes 4. Before the Pelagian Heresie arose Augustine was deceived in the matter of divine grace and freewill And although the same Father is many times Orthodox in the Question of Purgatory yet at other times he varieth at least doubtfully from his own sounder judgment The Reformed justly exclude from the rule of Faith the Determinations of the Pope 1. WE have said before That the Determinations of the Pope is the onely Rule of Faith in the Roman Church 2. Now then this being the Papists own certain Rule and Ground and Resolution We Reformed would gladly be Enformed How by the same a man may be assured of any Faith It being further also agreed
Reformed Churches 1. THey are the Churches which are entirely Reformed of which by Gods Grace we are Members 2. That is to say those Churches who having the true Marks of the Church have them also with all the Purity which is required in regard of the Doctrine of Faith and in regard of the Worship of God 1. 1. The Socinians 2. The Anabaptists Are not comprehended by the Protestants under the Appellation of Reformed and True Churches Because in their Assemblies the very Notes of the True Church do not appear 1. FOr we do not comprehend under that Appellation those Assemblies who having forsaken Idolatry Superstitions and some Errors of the Roman Church are fallen into others very great and most pernicious Such are the Assemblies of the Socinians or the New Samosatenians And such also are the Assemblies of the Anabaptists In which Assemblies the very Notes and Marks of the true Church do not appear The Reformed Religion is True and Orthodox 1. 1. THe Reformed Churches Faith is sound That appears in their Belief of God the Father Of his onely Son Jesus Christ Of the Holy Ghost Of the Church Of the Sacraments Of the Ministery Of the Scriptures Of Ceremonies And of every part of Christian Belief 2. They abandon and detest as plagues and poysons all those old Heresies which either the Sacred Scriptures or the Ancient Councils have utterly condemned 3. They call home again as much as in them lieth the right Discipline of the Church which our Adversaries have quite brought into a poor and weak case 4. They punish all licentiousness of Life and unruliness of Manners by the Old and long continued Laws And with as much sharpness as is convenient and lieth in their power They maintain still the state of Kingdomes in the same Condition and State of Honour wherein they have found them without any diminution or alteration Reserving unto their Princes their Majesty and Worldly Preheminence safe and without impairing to their possible power 6. They have so gotten themselves away from that Popish Church which the Popes had made a Den of Thieves and wherein nothing was in good frame or like to the Church of God as Lot in times past gat him out of Sodome or Abraham out of Chalde Not upon a desire of Contention but by the warning of God himself 7. They have searched out of the holy Bible which they are sure cannot deceive them their sure Form of Religion and have returned again unto the Primitive Church of the Apostles and of the Ancient Fathers that is to say to the ground and beginning of things unto the very foundations and head-springs of Christs Church The Reformed Churches are the same in kinde with all the good Churches which were before them 1. THe Reformed Churches are the same with all Good Churches that had been in the World before them and do succeed the sound and firm Members of the General Visible Church in whom was the Life of true Religion in the substantial matter of Faith and Godliness 2. But they having shaken off their former Errors they differ from them in manner and quality As a man who was deceived in sundry things when he becomes wiser differs from himself as he was Ignorant 3. And as a sick body when it is healed and a Commonwealth after it hath reformed disorders are in substance the same but differ in in Quality and in Goodness so the Protestant Churches have purged sundry corruptions and perfected that which was defective But are the same in kinde with all the good Churches and Christians that were before them And succeeds them of the General Visible Church in whom was the Life of Faith and of Religion Concerning the Antiquity of the Reformed Religion Jesuites THe Jesuites say That the Reformed for fifteen hundred Years could not spy out one Town one Village one House seasoned with the Doctrine that they follow Now. Answer of the Reformed 1. THe Reformed do answer That such an Accusation is very false for in the Apostles time all Churches all Cities and Towns every Family embraced the same Faith and Religion which now they profess 2. Antichrist that Man of Sin could never prevail so much nor so far in corrupting the Christian Religion and Church but a great multitude of the Saints remained and those whose Names were written in the Book of Life did utterly abhor all those filthy and wicked Superstitions of Antichrist For in the Church of Rome it self even in the worst times of it many were ever found who worshipped the God of their Fathers and kept themselves unpolluted with that horrible Idolatry And this can Histories of all Times witness which we could now Recite Vide Catalog Testium veritatis if it were needful and reckon up to the Jesuites many Houses Villages Towns Cities and Countries where Christ had many and populous Churches 3. We add That the Greek Church could never yet be brought to joyn it self to the Roman Church and it is now as opposite to Her as ever the Reformed was and is 4. Furthermore we answer to this Question of the Jesuites Where was your Church for so many years before Luther That it did never lie so hid but it was discerned by their Pope unless for so many years he persecuted shaddows § Another Answer of the Reformed to the Question of the Jesuites Where was the Reformed Religion before the Reformation made by Luther and other Divines 1. THey answer That the Apostles and the Primitive Church for almost six hundred years after Christ taught as they do 2. They answer That ever since that time there have been some that have contended for the maintenance of the Faith which they profess For Example 1. In matter of Supremacy they taught as the Reformed do till after Gregories time which was six hundred years after Christ yea Gregory himself writing against them of Constantinople held this Language If any shall call himself Vniversal Bishop I say it confidently that he is Antichrist 3. In matter of the Sacrament for a thousand years together that the People received the Wine as vvell as the Bread Aquinas cannot deny 3. In the point of Images at first the Church admitted no Images at all as Erasmus and Gregory sheweth yea Polydore Virgil confesseth That the Fathers condemned Images for fear of Idolatry and this continued till the second Nicene Council But now of late the Trent Council and Bellarmine have given unto them Divine honour 4. Bristow a Popish Doctor confesseth this The Truth is saith he that some have been in all Ages of the Protestants Opinion 5. And Illiricus Flaccus doth remember one Reynerius who discoursing of the Waldenses a People for substance of the Protestants Religion saith in these termes They are in all the Cities of Lombardy and of Provence No Sect hath continued so long Some say it hath been since Pope Sylvesters time Some since the Apostles These Waldenses believe all Articles concerning God but they
State 1. THey trouble the peace of it 2. They corrupt its Children with an impious and strange Religion 3. They make more precious account of a forreign Enemy than of its Dignity 4. They divert the minds of people from true Religion to trouble the peace of the State 5. They estrange the minds of Loyal Subjects from their Lawful Prince 6. And turn all things topsie turvie §. In the State of England as in other States since the last Reformation of the Church extream hath been the cruelty of the Papists towards the Reformed 1. VVHo are the Papists and what is their Religion That the Jesuites and Roman Priests so boldly object cruelty unto the Reformed State of England 2. 1. In Queen Maries time more of them were condemned in that State at one Sessions more executed in one day more consumed in one fire then they can recount to us to have been put to death for the Popes cause at any time or by any kind of death in the whole happy Reign of Queen Elizabeth 2 Let the Jesuites and other Papists then but call to mind the extream cruelty the exquisite Tortures the frequent Martyrdome of the times before the Keign of Queen Elizabeth And if there be in them any mark of Humanity they cannot chuse but confesse that their side hath been extream cruel And that the Englishes Reformed have been sufficiently provoked to severity against them and to have repayed them with the like 3. For what Times can afford such and so many Butcheries of men as was to be seen when the Papists were Lords over the Protestants in England let them tell what Sex or what Age they spared and did not bloodily execute all without difference and distinction Of Learned or Unlearned Of Male or Female Of Old or Young Children Virgins Married Clergie and Layetie Bishops Archbishops escaped not their hands The Martyrs they did beat with Rods their Tongues they pulled out of their Mouths their hands they burned off with Torches They Tormented Crucified Hanged and Beheaded them they burned them alive and toasted them at a soft fire Yea the Infant leaping out of the Mothers belly they received upon the Spears point and cast it into the flaming fire To conclude whatsoever barbarous cruelty could invent that they were not wanting to in execution against them 4. And if their cruelty had ended with the Living and had terminated in their deaths it had been lesse but so raging was their Tyranny that they took up the bodies of Saints interred in the Earth they arreigned them upon a day They accused them at a Bar They condemned them to Death And burned them at a Stake even exdeeding those old Tyrants in Fury and Cruelty 5. Can they name any one such Savage Fact amongst the said Reformed of England 6. Or what was he that was put to Death amongst them Reformed whom every good Man that heard of him judged not worthy of Death threefold more then of Life 7. Therefore let the Papists acknowledge their own cruelty in the State of England and accuse not the English Reformed §. What the Jesuites did alledge for their Justification of coming in England against the Laws of that State THey did alledge That they came thither upon commandment of their Superiours according to the Order of that Religion which they professe Confutation of such an Allegation 1. BUt the English Reformed did demand of the said Jesuites what necessity did lie upon them to obey his Commandement who had no Authority to enjoin them a Journey whether they were willing or unwilling to goe 2. And if that Spanish Soldier Loyola the first Authour of their Jesuitical Society were now alive and should enjoin them to set their Countrey on fire would they obey him we Reformed of England are sure they would never command such a foul fact 3. And yet he might better command and the English Jesuites execute that then this Thing for which they did professe that they were then come in England 4. For whether might it be deemed less to set houses on fire then to cause the Evils and Harms represented before 5. Which yet were the Ends of the Jesuites coming and the Order of their Profession required no less at their hands §. The Soveraign Magistrate in the Reformed State of England hath great Reason to Prohibite the Books of English Jesuites and Seminary Priests 1. THe Books of those man are such as it behooveth the Soveraign Magistrate to stop their passage 2. He must of necessity restrain their Books unless he would suffer the State to be stirred to Sedition the Church in danger of Heresie and Mens minds filled with cursed Opinions 3. For if Magistrates ought carefully to prevent lest the infection of the Plague be from other places brought into their Cities much more care is to be had that pestilent and pernicious Books be not openly spread abroad out of which simple and unlearned men do suck Poyson of deadly Error 4. Neither is the Reformed State of England the first that have taken this Course 5. It may be remembred in Queen Maries Time that they proceeded by Martial Law against all those with whom any of the Reformed Books were found If this was in the Reformed of that Time a matter worthy of Death so that they were by and by drawn to punishment as men guilty of High Treason and that without any Judicial Proceedings what reason have the English Jesuites and Seminary Priests that are in Rome Rhemes and other places abroad to look that their Books should now have such free liberty to be every where publickly sold Of Heretical Churches and Religions Of Heresies and Hereticks 1. HEresie is some opinion in matter of Faith repugnant and contrary to the Word of God being of some chosen out to themselves and wilfully maintained 2. And an Heretick is a person wilfully and stiffly maintaining false Opinions against the Scriptures after due admonition 3. There be three things required to an Heretick first that it be an Error about some Article of Christian Faith Secondly that it be contrary to the evidence and clear truth of holy Scripture soundly and generally held by the holy Catholick Church of God in the earth Thirdly that it be stoutly and obstinately maintained after conviction and lawfull admonition 4. The Doctors of the Roman Church do erre which account such Opinions for Heresies as are not condemned but rather taught in the Word of God which is the onely Rule of saving Truth 5. It is to be noted that Heresies are compared in Scriptures to whores because they are stored with cunning pranks and a thousand entisements to make men ill advised to swerve from the right way See Revel 14.4 6. As on the contrary in the said Scriptures simplicity of Faith is called Virginity See 2 Cor. 11. v. 2. 7. The Difference which is between Heresie and Schisme is as the Difference which is between Faith and Charity Heresie is the Poyson of Faith and infecteth
with Reason By the Authority of Scriptures 2. For indeed as the same Augustine hath taught us Epist 111. Ad Fortunatum We must not have any Mens Disputations Howsoever They be Men of sound Judgement and worthy Praise In like Estimation as the Canonical Scriptures 3. Such an understander saith the same Augustine Am. 7. In Reading other Mens Writings Such would I have other Men to be of Mine §. Consequently This Power and Authority is not to be Attributed to any Creature 1. NOt to the Ancient Fathers And Their Writings 2. Not to the Church 3. Not to the Counsels 4. Not to The Pope A Part or Joined with a General Council 3. Because They have not the Conditions of a Supreame Interpreter of the Scriptures And Judge of Controversies 3. Which Conditions are the following 1. It is required of a Supreame Interpreter and Judge of Controversies That It sayes Infalliblie the Truth And Cannot Erre 2. It is Required that It be not Partial 3. It is Required That no Appeale or Provocation may be made from it 4. It is Required That it might produce a certain knowledge and Belief in the Minds of Men. And by a Certain Spiritual Power so bind in some manner the Dissenting Parties That They willingly obey unto the Truth And give Assent unto it §. What Force have in Matters of Religion Arguments taken from Reason 1. 1. THe Argument that is Grounded only upon Reason In Matters of Religion And Faith we Reformed grant most unfeignedly to be no lawful weapon to fight the Lords warfare 2. And therefore whatsoever any of the Christians have said against Philosophy and Reason when Philosophy and Reason did disagree and doth from the Faith Which in the Scripture we Learn All That we Reformed do Allow with all our Hearts 3. And never used thus any Argument taken from Natural Reason In Matters of Religion against Any Adversary 4. For Reason must submit it self to Faith we know Faith must not be Restrained or stitched according to Reason 2. But when Reason is not Controlled of Faith Then we think That no Adversary in Points of Belief will Deny but that an Argument Builded upon Reason Maketh a necessary Proofe The Controversies Concerning Religion In Disputations Either Publick Or Private Most be Devided only by the Holy Scriptures According to the Doctrine of the Reformed ANTITHESIS 1. THe Popish Doctors do Reject this Doctrine For They will not enter in Combate with the Reformed onely with the Scriptures They Account themselves Disarmed If they must fight with Them only with this weapon 2. For this is their Language to the Reformed Doctors You Boast much of your valour But whether think you is he valorous or Fearful who dare not otherwise buckle with his Adversary But upon Condition he may forbid Him what Weapons he List And choose for Himself what he List Now say They to Them Here is your valour You forbid us the Weapons Of the Church Of the Counsels And of the Fathers And you onely leave us the Weapons of the Scriptures Answer of the Reformed Doctors To this Language of the Popish 1. HE that will overcome in the Case of Religion must only use those Weapons which are Allowed in this kind of Fight For it is not lawful here As it is in War to take any weapon by which you can wound your Enemy But weapons must be fetched out of the Armory of the Scriptures And of the Spirit of God Or Else There will be no foiling of an Adversary 2. And This is That which the Scriptures do warrant 3. And the Emperour Constantine commanded the Fathers of the Nicene Council to use against the Arrians And to end Controversies The Books of the Evangelists And of the Apostles And of the Oracles of the old Prophets Theodoret. Lib. 1. Cap. 6. 4. And the like teacheth Hilarie De Trinit Lib. 7. And Augustine Epist 3. And Contra Liter Petil. Donat. Lib. 3. Cap. 6. And in Divers others Places The Supreame Authority of Establishing Conserving and Reforming Religion doth belong to the Prince and Soveraign Magistrate 1. VVHich we say and maintain against the Doctors of the Church of Rome who leaves to the Prince only to defend that Religion which hath been established and approved by the Clergy 2. But more belongeth to the Prince and all that which is propunded in the Head 3. Which we prove 1. By the Right of Pagan Princes For among all the Pagans and Gentiles although the solemn administration did belong to their Priests yet the Supream Authority of setling reforming and defending Religion did ever belong to the Magistrate 4. And that 2. we should not think that the Pagan Princes did erre in that we are to know That the Supream Magistrate among the Israelites and among the Christians did assume to themselves the same Right God himself would have the Ceremonies concerning Religion to be setled and established by Moses the Civil Magistrate And not by Aaron the High Priest And after the Death of Moses the Care concerning Religion was devoled to Joshua the Governour and Magistrate And not to the Priest During the Government of the said Joshua The Ark was removed The Idolls were pulled down And by him was renewed the Religious Covevant between God and the People It is manifest also that David and Solomon and Josiah And Hezekiah did exercise their Royal Power in establishing and Reforming Religion And in overthrowing and rooting out Superstition and Idolatry If any one doubts of the exercise of the Power of Christian Emperours about the matter of Religion let him read the Code And the Novell Constitutions And there he shall find Laws made by them Concerning the Catholick Faith Concerning Sacraments Concerning the Churches Concerning Synods Concerning the Pastors of the Church Concerning Hereticks And in a word concerning the whole matter of Religion 5. And it is an Errour to teach that the Care of things doth not belong to the Office of the Supream Magistrate For as sayes very well S. Augustine Princes do serve God in this August contra Crescon lib. ● cap. 51. as they are Princes If they Injoin good things in their States and Dominions And forbid that which is Evil Not only in regard of that which belongeth to Divine Religion 6. To the two former Arguments let us join a third one to prove that the Supream Authority concerning Religion doth belong to the Prince and Soveraign Magistrate This Argument is taken from the necessity or at least from the convenience of the Thing It is a thing very necessary that there be one to whom the Supream authority doth belong to Injoin that which belongeth to Religion To forbid the Things that are hurtful and contrary to Religion And to punish those that are Rebellious For the outward worship of God shall vanish away Heresies will rise and Increase as also Blasphemies unlesse there be one armed with the Sword who may by fear and by a coactive power restrain the
Popes Supremacy 7. Their Superstitious Fasts 8. Their Worshipping of Images 9. Their praying unto Saints 10. Their praying for the Dead 11. Their Satisfaction 12. Their Forgivenesse by Works of Penance 13. And for many more the like Points of their false Doctrine 2. 1. And therefore they will be rather Tried and Judged by the Writings of the Fathers then by Scriptures 2. Although for a Fashion in Defence of some of the Points above propounded they pretend Scriptures Yet being easily beaten from them they fall at last to Rail on Them as not containing sufficient Doctrine and rather will be Tried and Judged as we have said By the Writings of Fathers 3. At whose Hands albeit they find not such Relief as they would make Men to Believe in no one Point of Controversie between us and them As hath been oftentimes plainly proved by many Doctors of the Reformed Church And by Bishop Jewel notably 4. 1 Notwithstanding by Reason of the Fathers manifold oversights and slips 2. And the Corruption that daily increased in the Church They may bring somewhat such as it is for their Maintenance 5. Wherefore in That we Reformed will not admit the Fathers for Judges in Matters of Religion but hold them hard to the Trial of the Scriptures 6. Which the Papists cannot abide This puts them out of patience and driveth them into vehement passions 7. But let them mend themselves where they can They shall never get more at our Hands Then that which we have said before concerning the Scriptures and the Fathers 8. This is then a very true saying that our Adversaries Doctrine cannot stand unlesse we Reformed will allow for Good those Things That in the writings of the Fathers are most Faulty §. Again of this Matter more briefly 1. IT is a peculiar Thing to the Popish Doctors that they even greedily hunt after and pursue whatsoever is Faulty in any Ancient Author As if all the Fathers Errors served to make up the Body and Faith of their Religion 2. They rake up even out of the Fathers oversights watsoever seemeth to favour their Errors Papists suck Errors from the Fathers unsound Speeches And of a small Error of the Fathers do occasionally procreate a great one 1. AS Horseleaches suck the naughtie blood out of the veins So Papists excerpt that which is most imperfect and unsound from the Fathers 2. And thus Popery according to D. Whitaker is a patcht Coverlet framed of the Fathers Errors and sewed together 3. Moreover the Papists of a small error of the Fathers may occasionally procreate a great one As from praying for the dead used in one respect by the Fathers The grosse praying for the dead with a reference to purgatory 4. And so we have great cause to tax the slipperie dealing of Popish Hucksters in abusing the Fathers Frauds concerning Councils Another Principle of the Church of Rome 1. Fraud Of many Frauds and Slights committed in the last Councils of the Church of Rome 1. THat before they were Assembled their Decisions were Debated And concluded at Rome 2. That notwithstanding all Disputations And Proof done on the contrarie they passed by absolute Authority 3. That the Holy Ghost or rather the Spirit of Satan was brought there from Rome weekly by the Post 4. That the Presidents in them and those who did Dispute in them and those who Concluded in them did Respire nothing but the good will of the Popes And did Aime onely at this to obey and please Them 5. By that it evidently appears That it is not much needful to produce Proofs that such Assemblies might have erred 6. On the contrarie it should be found strange if they could have concluded any thing without Error 2. Fraud This is a great slight of the Popes in these last Times to oppose themselves to the holding of Councels believing that they would Decree against them Against the Roman Clergie And against the Court of Rome CLement the 7 th Pope of Rome very much versed in Affairs of State even during the Life of his Predecessor Adrian the 6th had still maintained That in the Occurrences of that Time the Councel to make use of the Mean of Councels was most pernitious 2. And commonly did say That Councels were profitable whensoever any other thing should be Handled then the Popes Authoritie But when it came to be Debated That then there was nothing more pernicious 3. For as in former times the Popes weapons were to have Recourse unto the Councels So in those Times the Safety of the Papacy did consist to shun and avoid them 4. And so much the more that Leo the 10. his predecessors having already condemned Luthers Doctrine This same matter could no more be referred to a Councel to Examine it And Deliberate upon it without wronging the Authority of the Holy See 3. Fraud Observation This was a great Fraud and Sleight in the Court of Rome to endeavour as much as could be done to suppresse the Relation of what was passed in the Councel of Trent 1. MAny clear sighted persons have done what they were able to do to suppresse the Historie and Relation of that which did passe in the Councel of Trent 2. Whereupon we say That it is true That the Great Things deserves to be held in some Mysterious Secret But it is when the publick Good requires that it should be so 3. But when the Ignorance of the whole is notably wrongful to one of the parties and Advantagious to the other It is no marvel if in Contrarie Intentions and Ends it is proceeded also by opposite and contrarie waies 4. And here it is true and received the Common and Famous Sentence That with more Reason it is endeavoured to avoid Losse then to get profit Addition Of the History of the Council of Trent written by Patre Paulo 1. AS the Council of Trent holds the first Ranck among the Affairs happened in Christendome in the former Age and which also may happen in the following Times 2. So may it be said in very Truth That the History which we have of the said Council by Patre Paulo is the most Excellent of the Histories that have been written in that time and perhaps surpassing the others which had been written afore 3. For if we have a Regard to the Matter which it contains we shall find there those of the Religion and of the State and if exactly we consider the Form of it we shall find that nothing is wanting in it 4. He that shall Read it carefully shall not be ashamed to confesse that he hath received much profit by the Reading of it For in the Discourses which by Digression are made in it by its Author concerning Religion and the Church There is a Depth of Learning A Clearnesse of Wit And a Solidity of Judgement most Admirable As also a true free and bold Decision of many Points of Importance which are in Controversies between the Reformed Churches and the Romane Fraud The Acts
the Reformed to that Reason That is false 1. For the Sixth African Council and the Chalcedon Council had their Authoritie without the Pope 2. And Emperours Patriarchs and Bishops have Confirmed Councils 3. And the Council of Constantinople by Letters desired the Confirmation of the Decrees from Theodosius the Emperour Fraud This is a Fraud of the Church of Rome in Regard of another of her Principles That is the Catholick Church That because the Scripture maketh Honorable Mention of the Church The Roman Church is that true Church of Christ of which the Scripture speaketh so often 1. VVE Reformed acknowledge That both in the Old and New Testament there is every where honorable mention made of the Church And that it is called A Holy City A Fruitful Vineyard An High Hill A Direct Path The onely Dove The Kingdom of Heaven The Spouse and Bodie of Christ The Pillar of Truth The Multitude unto which the Holy Ghost being promised poureth all things needful to Salvation The Congregation against which the Gates of Hell shall never so prevail That they shall utterly extinguish the same The Congregation which who so Repugneth though he confesse Christ with his mouth yet hath he no more to do with Christ then hath a Publican and a heathen man 2. The above-said Titles do not belong to the now Church of Rome 1. FOr on the contrary It is the Babylonish Whore A Branch cut off from the true Vine A Den of Thieves A broad way leading to Destruction The Kingdom of Hell The body of Antichrist A Sink of Errors A great Mother of Fornication The Church of the wicked out of which every Christian ought to depart which Christ shall one day fearfully destroy and give her the just Recompence of all her sins 2. In vain then do the Popish Writers reckon up the praises of the Church unlesse they can demonstrate that they are proper to the Church of Rome 3. Which they shall never be able to do so long as Rome standeth As the Church of Rome is Fraudulous in regard of the Principles of Faith and Worship that she doth produce So is her Doctrine false concerning these Principles 1. Concerning the Traditions that she calleth Apostolical 2. Concerning the Church 3. Concerning General Councils 4. Concerning the Ancient Fathers 5. Concerning the Pope And therefore such Principles are justly excluded by the Reformed from the Rule of Faith 1. The Reformed justly exclude from the Rule of Faith the Traditions called Apostolical by the Papists 1. FOr the Popish Apostolical Traditions are but forged and devised Things and therefore no stay for a man to settle his Conscience upon 2. That they are not such as the Papists sayes Let them tell us if they can which be the Apostles Traditions how many and where they may be found If they cannot satisfie this Demand as they cannot indeed How may they then make any Reckoning of that whereof they have no certain knoledge How can They without falling Build their Faith upon Fantasies such as they are 3. The Apostles Doctrine we have in Writing The Apostles Doctrine we have in writing 4. Other Traditions of the Apostles we receive none for our belief The Scripture is the onely Rule of Faith and not Traditions a part of the Rule of Faith that is That Scripture is a perfect Rule 1. THat I prove in this manner 2 Timoth. 3.15 Apoc. 22.18 1 Cor. 4.6 John 20.31 2. That is the onely Rule whereunto the chiefest properties of a rule do solely belong But the properties of a true and certain rule do onely belong to the holy Scriptures in matters of Faith The rule of Catholick Faith saith Bellarmine must be certain and known De verb. Dei libr. 1. cap. 2. Now there is nothing better known or more certain then the Scripture which appears Because Traditions are far more uncertain than the written word and because many of them are false and uncertain 3. The written word is a Rule of Traditions From whence it follows that it is the onely rule That the written word is a rule of Tradition appeareth by the Doctrine of our Adversaries who acknowledge that no Traditions must be admitted but such as agree with the Scripture Bellarm. de verb. Dei libr. 4. cap. 3. And which are derived from the Scripture and the writings of the Primitive Fathers Bellarm. de Script libr. 4. cap. 3. But those Traditions which are derived from the Scriptures have the same to be their rule And there is nothing more common in the Primitive Fathers then to subject all their writings to be Regulate by the holy Scriptures Therefore such Traditions as are found in the works of the holy Fathers have the holy Scripture to be their rule from whence it followeth that the Scripture is the onely primitive rule of Faith 4. It is that which is acknowledged by some of our Adversaries Gabr. Biel Can. Miss Lect. 71. whereof Ferus saith expresly The holy Scripture is the sole rule of veritie and whatsoever differs or contradicteth the same it is error and cokle with whatsoever shew it come forth Ferus in Matth. lib. 2. in cap. 13. pag. 248. col 1. And another saith The Doctrine of the books of the Prophets and Apostles is alone the foundation of truth and the rule c. Villavincen de formand Concion lib. 2. cap. 2. 2. The Reformed justly exclude from the Rule of Faith the Catholick Church 1. VVE Reformed do Reverence and Love The Catholick Church as the Spouse of Christ 2. But we know that her duty is to hearken only to the voice of Christ her Husband And that she hath no Authority to adde so much as one iota in his Word or any waies to dissent from it 3. And further we know That the Romish Synagogue is not that Catholick Church of Christ whereof we speak 3. The Reformed justly exclude from the Rule of Faith General Councils 1. VVE Reformed doe esteem and regard General Councils in their place We thank God for them We Read Allow and Commend them so far forth as they agree with Gods Word 2. Let therefore their Decrees be examined by Gods Word 3. And if they agree let them be received for that Agreement 4. If not let them be rejected for the contrary 5. But the Argument holdeth not in this Form such a Council decreed so and therefore so must we believe 6. If this Principle were set down for certain and perpetual in Divinity we should have strange Beliefs enow yea surely scarcely should we retain any one true Belief 7. Two famous General Councils have been held in Nice The First And the Second In the First is condemned the Popes Supremacie Can. 6. In the Second is established the Idolatrous Worship of Images The First Belief the Papists will not allow The Second is detested by us Reformed 8. Let Councils therefore be esteemed as they deserve 9. And let them be tried as hath been said § Objection of the Popish
Accusation of being Heretical nothing touches our Reformed Religion and Church For by Gods Grace we are far from all kinde of Heresie and hold no other Doctrine then that which the Prophets and the Apostles and Jesus Christ himself have taught us and which is plainly contained in the Books of Canonical Scripture § The Jesuites maintain the contrary but by a Falfe Ground which is one of their great slights Jesuites 1. THe Doctrine of the Jesuites is That for not to be an Heretick one must have Communion with the Church of Rome and acknowledge the Pope to be Vicar of Christ and Successor of S. Peter in the Quality of Head and Monarch of the Church which Church of Rome they presuppose to be the Catholique Church Answer of the Reformed 1. THe Reformed do answer to that Doctrine of the Jesuites That it must first appear that the Now Church of Rome is the Catholique Church before he that is separated from his Communion can be justly convicted of Heresie which is also to be said concerning the Pope It must appear that he is S. Peters Successor and the Head and Monarch of the Church 2. Which the Jesuites shall never be able to do and yet never have done for since the time that the Ancient Fathers of the Church did call the Church of Rome Catholick Church the course of that Church is turned and the See of Rome hath declined and degenerated from her sincere Faith to detestable falshood 3. Let the Jesuites restore unto us the old Church of Rome and we will never separate our selves from her Communion 4. But of that Church they have nothing left but the Walls and old Rubbish 5. And yet still they brag of the Name of the Catholique Church Exception of the Jesuites SO indeed Calvin answereth say the Jesuites But it shall not serve the Reformeds turn for Optatus say they proveth himself to be in the Catholique Church because he joyned himself to S. Peters Chair Answer of the Reformed to that Exception ANd what do the Jesuites call S. Peters Chair 1. Is it the external Seat or the Succession of the Bishops They shall never prove it 2. And the contrary say the Reformed we can easily object out of Optatus himself Optatus calleth Syricus Bishop of Rome his Fellow and the companion of other Bishops who held a sound and Catholique Judgement with all those Syricus agreed in one Society and Fellowship By their Letters sent one to another as Witnesses of their consenting in Doctrine and lawful Ordination Optatus then proveth that he was a Catholique because he kept the Catholique confession and conjunction with Syricius and with others Bishops 2. Secondly the Reformed do answer that Optatus Argument was good against the Donatists who did separate themselves from the Communion of the Catholique Church while they consented not with these Churches where the Doctrine of the Apostles and a lawful Ordination of Bishops did ever flourish 3. But that is nothing to us Reformed and specially to the Reformed of the Church of England It is not a sound Argument to convince the Reformed of Schisme because they have separated themselves from the Church of Rome The Jesuites do maintain the contrary 1. ANd in that regard thinking to touch the Reformed who have separated themselves from the Church of Rome they produce the Authority of Optatus who did reprove the Separation of the Donatists and did argue them to be Schismatical because they had separated from the communion of the Catholique Church Answer to the Jesuites and Refutation of their Argument 1. A Very good Argument indeed and Augustine observed the same course and it was a good Argument That the communion of the Church should be objected to the Schismatical Donatists which seditiously without cause separated themselves from the Church 2. But this Argument employed by Optatus against the Donatists makes nothing against the Reformed who have separated Themselves from the Church of Rome For the said Reformed deny the Church of Rome to be the Catholique Church 3. And therefore the Jesuites cannot by this Argument of Optatus convince us of Schisme although Optatus might thereby confute the Donatists 4. It must first appear that the Church of Rome be the Catholique Church otherwise the Reformed cannot be convicted of Schisme 5. In the time of Optatus the Church of Rome was the Preserver of Religion the Maintainer of the True Faith and she shined like a Star in the sight of all other Churches 6. No marvel then if the most holy Fathers esteemed much and reverenced this Church and urged the Schismaticks with the example of it and also the Hereticks of their time as a great prejudice unto them 7. But since that time the course of that Church is turned and the See of Rome hath declined and degenerated from her sincere Faith to detestable Falshood 8. Let the Papists as we have said before restore us the old Church of Rome and we will never separate our selves from Her 9. But of that old Church of Rome they have nothing left but the Walls and old Rubbish 10. And yet they still brag of the Name of the Catholique Church Of the Differences in Religion between the Calvinists and the Lutherans 1. THe Jars and Dissentions between the Lutherans and Calvinists are neither many nor so material as to shake or touch the Foundation easily reconcileable if men of any moderation had them in handling 2. The bitter speeches of Luther none can excuse and much less the virulent Pamphlets and Proscriptions of some of his Disciples who in a preposterous imitation of his Zeal are little less then furious But the consequence of Opinions must not be measured by the Passions or Outrages of opiniate men Two Brothers in their choler may renounce each other and disclaim their amity yet that heat cannot dissolve their inward and essential Relation 3. The Divisions of the Lutherans and Calvinists namely of the moderate of either side are rather in formes and phrases of Speech then in substance of Doctrine 4. The first and main Controversie between them is that about Consubstantiation which after occasioned that other of Ubiquity 5. In both these Controversies the main Truth on both sides is out of Controversie That Christ is really and truly exhibited to each faithful Communicant and that in his whole person he is every where The doubt is only in the manner how he is in the Symboles and how in Heaven and Earth which being no part of Faith but a curious nicity inscrutable to the Wit of Man we should all here believe where we cannot understand and not fall a quarrelling about that which we cannot conceive How or why are saucy Questions in Divine Mysteries Just Mart. in Expos Fid. 6. I omit the Questions of Predestination being no less debated in the Roman Schools then in the Reformed 7. Their other Differences in Ceremony or Discipline are diversities without Discord 8. All wise men in the World have ever
thought that in such things each several Church is left to her own Judgement and Liberty so as she keep her self to the general Apostolique Rule of Order and Edification and to the general Judgement and Practise of the Church Universal See Tertull. de virg vetand cap. 1. Fermit apud Cyprian Epist 75. August Epist so Socrat. Hist lib. 5. cap. 21. c. 9. Though the Body of Religion in divers Reformed Churches and Countries be clothed in divers Suits and Fashions yet for substance it may be one in all In all these contestations as it commonly falls out blessed be God they that are for Truth have ever been for Charity and mutual Toleration as appears by their published Writings all tending to Pacification Vide Junii Parae scripta Irenica 10. Luther himself though of a rough and vehement Spirit yet before his death being tempered by milde Melanchton that honour of Germany did much relent and remit of his rigour against Zuinglius and began to approve the good Counsels of Peace Admonit Neustad de Libro Concord cap. 6. p. 236. And 11. Among the Lutherans all are not of the same intractable Disposition As they in Polonia for instance where the followers of Luther and Calvin have long lived together in a fair and brotherly concord and communion notwithstanding their several Opinions which they still retain vide Corpu Confess Et ibi Poloniae consensum 12. Since then our Discords are of no higher Degree we say as Prudentius a Christian Poet of the Unity of his Times It hath been a little violated but is defended by Faith her Sister in whose company being safely come off she laugheth at her wounds as being easily curable Fraud A Discovery and Refutation of a New Way and Subtle Cunnings of a Seminary Priest of Rhemes against the Reformed Religion 1. THis Way and Cunning is to bring continual Allegations of Testimonies out of the Reformed own Writers craftily brought in their Books to shew a dissention of Judgement among the said Reformed Writers that so the Readers of the Books of those Popish Writers may be Induced to think the worse of the Reformed Religion 2. A Refutation of this New Slight and Device THis Device is full of Fraud Dishonesty and Malice taking Advantage of Mens Infirmities and Imperfections against the Eternal Truth of God which the said Popish Doctors cannot by ordinary and lawful kind of Reasoning Refute Concerning the Acknowledgement of a Seminary Priest of Rhemes That three Articles of the Controversies which were propounded by Bishop Jewell in this Sermon at Paul 's Cross in which he made his Callange were and are of weight 1. The Supremacy of the Pope 2. The Corporal Presence 3. And the Sacrifice of the Mass Examination of this Acknowledgement of the Seminary Priest by the Reformed Doctors 1. 1. IN that acknowledgement the Seminary Priest hath uttered his Judgement of the rest of the Articles that are in Controversie that they are not of such weight as his Church would have them to be esteemed 2. And of these three Articles he might with as good Reason have excepted the two latter and so make the first only a matter of weight 3. For that Article indeed is the substantial Point in maintenance whereof all the Popish Writers Labours are bestowed otherwise were it not for defence of their Popes wicked unreasonable Antichristian Monarchy they could easily agree with us for these two and for all the rest we doubt not 2. But what did the Priest in his Acknowledgement think then 1. Of Private Mass Is it a thing of no weight as there he would have it accounted There is not we suppose any thing in the Rome Church more used or better liked 2. What he did think of the half Communion 3. What he did think of the Latine Service 4. What he did think of Images 5. What did he think of the keeping of the Scriptures in a Tongue unknown to the People 6. And what did he think of other such Heads of the Romish Religion 3. 1. Are they of no weight Are they Trifles Are they not worth the striving for 2. Then let the Popish Writers give over all defence of them 1. Let Private Masses be abolished 2. Let the Communion be administred in both kinds according to Christs institution 3. Let the publick prayers be said in the Tongue that every Countrey useth 4. Let Images be burned 5. And all Idolatry forbidden 6. Let it be lawful for the People of all Countries to read the Scripture in their own Language 7. Let there be no controversie about the other Articles 3. For while they stand so stifly in maintenance of all these and others They cannot truly say and bear us in hand That they are not of weight in their Account The Reformed Churches truly and properly so called are Pure and Orthodox Churches And their Faith is sound and not Hereticall as falsly they are termed by the Church of Rome 1. IT is that which must be acknowledged by some certain Notes and Marks For as we judge of Coine by the pair of Gold Weights and of Metals by the Touch-stone and of Glassen and Earthen Pots by the sound so ought we to judge of the Church by her Marks 2. The true Touch-stone of the Church is the Truth It is the Scripture It is the Word of God For the true Sheep of Christ are those who hear the voice who know him and follow him John 10.27 It is the Lords Camp who marcheth after this Pillar And the Apostles Church is builded upon the Foundation of the Apostles and Prophets Jesus Christ himself being the chief Corner-stone Ephes 2.20 We hear saith St. Augustine found Christ in the Scriptures let us also seek there the Church And if they have the Church on their side let them show it onely by the Canonical Books of the Divine Scriptures As to know whether a Line be strait a strait Rule is applied unto it Even also to discern a pure Church from an impure there is no other means than to see and observe whether it doth agree with the Rule of Practice which is the Word of God 3. Under which Word of God the pure Administration of the Sacraments of the Church is also to be comprehended Because the right use of them is prescribed in the Word of God 4. Now by this true and certain mark of the Church we prove that the truly Reformed Churches are pure and Orthodox Churches because from point to point they follow it The Articles of their Doctrine as the generous young Eagle do fixly behold the Sun and without at all feeling the Eye-lids 5. If it were true as it is pretended by our Adversaries of the Church of Rome that the Religion of the said Churches should be false and that they were deceived then it should follow that Christ the Prophets and the Apostles should have deceived them Because they defend their Institutions and imbrace their Doctrine which to think onely
have gotten a greater Measure of Learning and Wisdome then others who have used as great indeavour as themselves 3. And therefore the said Reformed Doctors may think that it is some spice of Pride in the Jesuites and their fellows to object Ignorance unto them 4. Who for any thing that appeareth have no cause to bragge of such knowledge or to challenge more to themselves then they may safely grant to another 5. Besides there are none of the Reformed Doctors how unlearned soever the Jesuites and others their fellows think they are but by the grace of God and the Light of his Word can easily discover the Falshood and Corruption of the Religion of the Church of Rome There is an unity in the Protestants Faith and Concord among the Protestants And how Considerable against the Slanders of Papists 1. WE acknowledge that there be differences and jarres among the Protestants 2. But we deny that there is any such discord or difference among them as dissolveth the unity of Faith Essential to the true Church 3. The difference among the Protestants is no other then such as hath formerly been in the true Church of Christ since the Apostles age which is represented in the end of this Thesis 4. It is not in point of Faith or Primitive Articles of Faith or about things Essential in the object of Faith 1. But the difference is either in accidental probable and secondary points 2. Or touching things difficult in Religion for the searching out of the verity whereof it is profitable that Learned men proceeding modestly do dispute pro and contra 3. Or else the disagreement is personal either among private men or raised by private men Schismatically and Factiously against the Church 5. Now if our Adversaries who object Division unto the Protestant Churches dispute the question of Unity in it self the Scripture and the Fathers and the History of the Church will convince them That Unity in the substance of Faith and of Religion observed by the firmest Members of the Church is simply necessary and an essential property of the Church And other Unity is of the perfection and well being of the Church and yet contingent and variable sometimes greater sometimes less and at no time absolute in all the parts And the same many times is greatly wanting by reason of the Malice of wicked Imps. 6. In the dayes of Constantine wherein it is acknowledged by all men that the visible society of Christians was a true Church There hapned so grievous and unseemly contentions among the Bishops and Pastours that the discord of Christians was brought upon the Stage And Religion was derided and traduced by Infidels 7. Saint Augustine acknowledgeth that the concord of Godly men in this Life wherein they are not perfect but proficient is sometimes interrupted with discord and dissention ariseth even among Brethren and Saints And there be divers things saith he wherein the best learned and most worthy defender of the Catholick rule without prejudice to the Body of Faith do not accord And one of them speaketh more truly then another of the same thing 8. If it be objected that Luther saith that the differences between him and Zuinglius and Calvin are not in small points of Government and Ceremonie c. The Answer to that is that Luthers personal and fretful speech proceeding from passion against such as were contrary minded to him prove that godly men have insirmities and are sometimes over-bitter one against another Like as Cyprian was against Pope Stephen calling him proud ignorant and of a blind and wicked mind and as Epiphanius was against Chrysostome But they are not sufficient to demonstrate that Protestant Churches want the Note of Unity neither doth condemning and Anathematising one another imply dissension in profound points of Religion but may proceed from affection and from want of charity This appeareth by Pope Victor proclaiming Anathema against the East Churches about an Adiapherous Ceremony It appeareth also by Pope Stephen and by Sergius condemning their predecessor Formosus and raking him being defunct out of his Grave c. 2. 1. IF our Adversaries of the Church of Rome will proceed substantially and prove that there is discord of Faith and of Doctrine among the Protestants they must perform these two things 1. They must produce the principal part of Doctrine belonging to the main object of Faith and demonstate that the Protestant Churches which are reputed Orthodox are divided in these For we have nothing to do with Anabaptists Arians c. 2. They must also give instance in such persons as are reputed sound Members and what parts of the several Churches wherein they live Not of Novellists Incendiaries and Extravagants which are condemned and resisted by the sound and best parts of the Church Rom. 16.17 A Representation of good Magistrates and truly Christians towards the Reformed Religion 1. SUch Magistrates are those who have been alwayes zealous lovers of Christs Gospel and who by their godly Wisdom have done their endeavour to advance greatly the Lords cause from time to time And to hinder the practices of the Adversaries 2. True Religious men ought to beseech the Lord to increase in those Godly Magistrates all those Christian vertues to the benefit of Christs Church and of the Common-wealth of all the Estates where the Reformed Churches are gathered and tollerated Concerning the Church and Religion of England touching the Conversion of England by Augustine the Monk 1. GAlfridus Monumetensis writeth that before Augustine the Monk came in England in the time of Gregory the Great Truth was preached there and sincere Doctrine delivered Vide Godofri Mon. de Orig. gest Britan Libr. 8. cap. 4. 2. Augustines pretended conversion of England was onely the planting of some trifling Ceremonies Of the shaking off of the Popes yoak by Henry the Eight King of England 1. IT is a thing much to be admired that Henry the Eight King of England having written against Luther in the Popes behalf and for a reward of his affection and pains having received the glorious Title of Defendor of the Faith yet shortly after withdrew himself from the Popes Jurisdiction and became his open and profest Enemy 2. Which Act did seem to many to have proceeded from a cause very little commendable as if it had been onely in revenge that the Pope crossed him in the fruition of his pleasures 3. But it is most certain that the exquisite consideration both of the Kings and of the Popes proceedings thereupon doth cause us to lift up our minds to an higher cause and obliges us to confess that Gods providence hath been manifested therein in a particular and extraordinary manner 4. And that for the fulfilling in part of S. Johns prophesie Rev. 17.13 16. In these words that those Kings which had one mind and who had given their power and strength unto the Beast shall be them that shall hate the Whore and shall make her desolate and naked and shall