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A35009 The first part of Babel's-builders unmasking themselves as appears by the following judgment from Barbadoes (promoted by George Fox his party, and subscribed by eighty two of them) : with a letter of G.F.'s, G.W's, &c. in answer thereunto, and observations thereupon : also a false prophesie of that lying prophet, Sol. Eccles : whereas the following discourse was formerly printed and privately disposed ... amongst those called Quakers, but finding some of G.F.'s party have since publickly exposed it with slanderous and false charges on the author, this second impression with some small addition, is now made publick ... / Thomas Crisp.; Babel's-builders unmask't. Part 1 Crisp, Thomas, 17th cent.; Fox, George, 1624-1691.; Eccles, Solomon, 1618-1683.; Whitehead, George, 1636?-1723. 1682 (1682) Wing C6951; ESTC R10390 16,901 16

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spirit_n of_o truth_n must_v be_v of_o one_o mind_n they_o can_v be_v otherwise_o these_o word_n be_v of_o one_o mind_n and_o have_v unity_n with_o g._n f_n womens-meeting_n be_v all_o to_o the_o same_o effect_n as_o the_o barbados_n judgement_n only_o that_o be_v more_o naked_a and_o plain_a and_o not_o so_o subtle_o word_v as_o some_o here_o can_v have_v do_v it_o for_o we_o must_v believe_v and_o practise_v just_a as_o they_o do_v or_o will_v have_v we_o or_o else_o no_o unity_n which_o imply_v as_o much_o ●iving_n up_o as_o the_o barbados_n judgement_n do_v as_o be_v further_o manifest_v by_o their_o severe_a judgement_n against_o those_o that_o can_v so_o do_v and_o by_o render_v they_o apostate_n etc._n etc._n and_o g._n f_n etc._n etc._n dislike_n or_o blame_a they_o be_v not_o for_o their_o give_v up_o all_o etc._n etc._n but_o for_o the_o latter_a clause_n of_o the_o judgement_n which_o admit_v that_o a_o particular_a measure_n may_v differ_v or_o not_o agree_v with_o the_o 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their_o power_n over_o the_o conscience_n of_o their_o brethren_n even_o in_o the_o seat_n or_o throne_n of_o christ_n as_o be_v further_a manifest_a from_o r._n b_n anarchy_n etc._n etc._n vindicate_v by_o the_o second-day_n meet_v in_o their_o false_a accuser_n etc._n etc._n page_n 57_o where_o they_o ask_v this_o question_n if_o in_o no_o case_n of_o conscience_n the_o church_n of_o christ_n have_v power_n to_o give_v such_o positive_a sentence_n as_o be_v just_a and_o righteous_a when_o they_o mention_v the_o church_n of_o christ_n in_o respect_n to_o this_o present_a age_n that_o they_o mean_v only_o themselves_o seem_v evident_a from_o the_o say_v r._n b_n anarchy_n etc._n etc._n p._n 43._o also_o judas_n or_o the_o jew_n etc._n etc._n p._n 28._o where_o they_o term_v themselves_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n and_o in_o other_o write_n they_o the_o people_n of_o god_n and_o none_o else_o also_o when_o they_o mention_v the_o government_n and_o good_a ordinance_n of_o christ_n or_o 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