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B06703 The guide in controversies, or, A rational account of the doctrine of Roman-Catholicks concerning the ecclesiastical guide in controversies of religion reflecting on the later writings of Protestants, particularly of Archbishop Lawd and Dr. Stillingfleet on this subject. / By R.H. R. H., 1609-1678. 1667 (1667) Wing W3447A; ESTC R186847 357,072 413

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though_o desire_v nothing_o so_o much_o as_o the_o happiness_n once_o to_o see_v their_o messiah_n or_o live_v in_o his_o day_n yet_o even_o whilst_o they_o converse_v familiar_o with_o he_o and_o receive_v all_o salutary_a doctrine_n from_o he_o confirm_v with_o miracle_n be_v blind_v with_o many_o other_o prejudices_fw-la and_o mistake_v fancy_n concern_v he_o and_o also_o want_v that_o humility_n of_o the_o common_a people_n to_o learn_v this_o truth_n among_o other_o from_o he_o that_o he_o be_v their_o messiah_n can_v never_o persuade_v themselves_o that_o he_o be_v indeed_o such_o a_o person_n and_o so_o perish_v in_o their_o unbelief_n but_o bless_v be_v our_o lord_n who_o mean_a while_n both_o then_o clear_o manifest_v himself_o to_o those_o who_o be_v babe_n i._n e._n humble_a 12.16_o matt._n 11.25_o rom._n 12.16_o and_o not_o wise_a in_o themselves_o and_o since_o upon_o his_o necessary_a departure_n have_v not_o leave_v his_o child_n here_o orphan_n and_o destitute_a 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10._o l._n 32_o deal_n if._n page_n 11._o l._n 14._o r._n be_v page_n 20._o l._n 27._o r._n render_v page_n 25._o l._n 1._o r._n bishop_n page_n 26._o mark_fw-mi r._n 398._o page_n 29._o l._n 22._o r._n 176._o page_n 30._o l._n 14._o r._n which_o council_n mark_fw-mi r._n 10._o and_o 14._o page_n 33._o l._n 21._o r._n contra_v page_n 36._o l._n r._n they_o page_n 38._o 21._o r._n consequent_o page_n 39_o l._n 33._o r._n melchites_n l._n 42._o r._n be_v necessary_a page_n 42._o l._n 10._o r._n one_a these_o page_n 44._o 19_o r._n 37._o page_n 45._o l._n 7._o r._n man_n profess_v page_n 50._o 23._o r._n and_o transubstantiation_n in_o five_o l._n 41._o r._n nice_a page_n 56._o 3._o r._n religion_n for_o so_o none_o will_v be_v schsmaticks_n but_o arch_a heretic_n page_n 73._o ult_n r_o command_n disc_n 2._o page_n 79._o 4._o r._n these_o page_n 80._o 33._o r._n sufficient_a for_o decide_v controversy_n page_n 83._o 8_o r._n there_o be_v consider_v the_o time_n page_n 87._o l._n 15._o r._n colour_n see_v 4_o disc_n §_o 11.12_o page_n 96._o 22._o r._n render_v page_n 103._o 15._o r._n sabellianism_n page_n 104_o 27._o r_o wherein_o ib._n deal_v 28._o r._n but_o page_n 105._o 29._o r._n valens_n 33_o r._n essence_n page_n 122._o mark_fw-mi r._n 104.172_o stillingf_n p._n 241._o page_n 123._o 19_o r._n quonam_fw-la disc_n 3._o page_n 143._o 33._o mark_fw-mi r._n chillingw_o p._n 140._o 118._o 166_o page_n 145._o 8._o r._n that_o part_n page_n 17._o r._n subordinate_a page_n 150_o 9_o r._n oppose_v or_o deny_v the_o truth_n of_o page_n 153._o 14._o r._n follow_v page_n 156._o 3._o r._n clear_v page_n 157._o 7._o r._n limitation_n page_n 169._o 14._o r._n corporal_a presence_n in_o the_o eucharist_n page_n 170._o 11._o r._n to_o be_v general_o condemn_v page_n 186._o 10._o r._n to_o page_n 194._o 27._o r._n thereof_o under_o one_o page_n 199._o mark_fw-mi r._n church_n page_n 203._o 30._o r._n monachi_fw-la page_n 204._o 10._o r._n probate_a page_n 205._o 22._o r._n confession_n 26._o r._n veterum_fw-la page_n 213._o 9_o r._n testimony_n 21._o r._n plures_fw-la a_o paucos_fw-la 22._o deal_n paucos_fw-la page_n 223._o 1._o r._n be_v so_o evident_a 17._o r._n hope_v page_n 224._o 3._o r._n reflection_n 10._o r._n quos_fw-la 15._o r._n i'faith_o only_o 32._o r._n the_o contrary_a doctrine_n page_n 234._o 6._o r._n anathema_n page_n 247._o 26._o subjacete_fw-la page_n 254._o 40._o r._n the_o last_o page_n 259._o 19_o r._n upon_o page_n 267._o 21._o deal_n authority_n page_n 269._o 8._o r._n fide_fw-la page_n 271._o 23._o r._n fidei_fw-la page_n 275._o 38._o mark_fw-mi r._n †_o p._n 137_o page_n 286._o 38._o r._n on_o page_n 301._o 36._o r._n honoratis_fw-la page_n 305_o chrisma_n page_n 307._o 3._o r._n regimine_fw-la page_n 311._o mark_fw-mi aethiopum_o page_n 321._o 3._o r._n church_n disc_n 4_o page_n 332._o 23._o r._n carpocratos_n page_n 338._o 13._o r._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d page_n 342._o 39_o deal_n as_o page_n 365._o 30._o r._n fides_fw-la preface_n p._n 4._o l._n 1._o r._n 2._o the_o first_o discourse_n relate_v and_o consider_v the_o vary_a judgement_n of_o learned_a protestant_n concern_v the_o ecclesiastical_a guide_n the_o content_n chap._n 1._o the_o church_n catholic_n grant_v by_o all_o in_o some_o sense_n unerrable_a in_o fundamental_o for_o ever_o §_o 1._o i._o some_o protestant_n divine_v grant_v the_o church_n catholic_n unerrable_a in_o fundamental_o or_o necessary_n but_o not_o as_o a_o guide_n §_o 3._o reply_n §_o 6._o that_o the_o divine_a promise_n of_o indefectibility_n or_o not_o err_v in_o necessary_n belong_v to_o the_o church_n catholic_n as_o a_o guide_n or_o to_o the_o guide_n of_o the_o church_n catholic_n §_o 6._o chap._n 2._o several_a limitation_n of_o protestant_n concern_v these_o promise_n 1._o that_o they_o be_v make_v only_o to_o the_o apostle_n
former_a council_n such_o as_o the_o church_n of_o precede_a age_n have_v receive_v as_o general_n or_o oblige_v as_o well_o those_o council_n since_o as_o those_o before_o the_o six_o or_o seven_o century_n which_o late_a the_o other_o party_n reject_v §_o 37._o chap._n 5._o the_o pretend_a security_n of_o those_o protestant_n who_o deny_v any_o certain_a live_a or_o personal_a guide_n infallible_a in_o necessary_n affirm_v 1._o that_o all_o necessary_a matter_n of_o faith_n be_v even_o to_o the_o unlearned_a clear_a in_o the_o scripture_n and_o the_o controversy_n in_o non-necessaries_a needless_a to_o be_v decide_v §_o 38._o 2._o that_o all_o necessary_n be_v clear_a in_o scripture_n because_o god_n have_v leave_v no_o other_o certain_a mean_n rule_n or_o guide_n for_o the_o knowledge_n of_o they_o save_o the_o scripture_n §_o 39_o n._n 1._o not_o any_o certain_a live_a guide_n 1._o which_o be_v infallible_a as_o their_o guide_n the_o scripture_n be_v §_o 39_o n._n 2._o 2._o which_o the_o unlearned_a in_o any_o division_n can_v discern_v from_o the_o false_a guide_n or_o know_v their_o decree_n better_o than_o the_o scripture_n 3._o from_o who_o the_o scripture_n direct_v they_o to_o learn_v necessary_n or_o tell_v they_o what_o church_n or_o party_n they_o be_v to_o adhere_v to_o in_o any_o schism_n make_v in_o which_o infallible_a guide_n if_o there_o be_v any_o such_o as_o be_v a_o thing_n of_o the_o great_a concernment_n the_o scripture_n will_v not_o have_v be_v silent_a ibid._n reply_n 1._o that_o evidence_n of_o the_o scripture_n have_v be_v the_o usual_a plea_n of_o former_a heretic_n in_o their_o dissent_v from_o the_o church_n §_o 40._o n._n 1._o 2._o that_o as_o to_o the_o main_a and_o principal_a article_n of_o the_o christian_a faith_n the_o sufficiency_n of_o the_o rule_n of_o scripture_n be_v not_o deny_v by_o roman_a catholic_n but_o only_o the_o clearness_n thereof_o as_o to_o all_o man_n capacity_n question_v and_o another_o guide_n hold_v necessary_a §_o 40._o n._n 2._o it_o be_v reply_v then_o 1._o concern_v the_o clearness_n of_o scripture_n 1_o that_o some_o controversy_n in_o religion_n since_o the_o write_n of_o the_o scripture_n have_v be_v concern_v point_n necessary_a as_o those_o controversy_n concern_v the_o trinity_n the_o deity_n and_o humanity_n of_o our_o lord_n the_o necessity_n of_o god_n grace_n etc._n etc._n §_o 41._o 2._o that_o the_o more_o clear_a all_o necessary_n be_v in_o scripture_n still_o with_o the_o more_o security_n may_v christian_n rely_v for_o they_o on_o the_o church_n judgement_n from_o which_o also_o they_o receive_v these_o scripture_n §_o 42._o 3._o that_o there_o be_v no_o necessity_n that_o all_o necessary_n shall_v be_v reveal_v in_o scripture_n as_o to_o all_o man_n clear_o 1._o because_o it_o be_v sufficient_a if_o god_n have_v leave_v this_o one_o point_n clear_a in_o scripture_n that_o we_o shall_v in_o all_o difficulty_n and_o obscurity_n of_o they_o follow_v the_o direction_n and_o adhere_v to_o the_o exposition_n and_o doctrine_n of_o these_o guide_n §_o 43._o 2._o sufficient_a if_o god_n have_v by_o other_o apostolical_a tradition_n at_o least_o clear_o reveal_v to_o these_o church-guide_n all_o such_o necessary_a truth_n to_o be_v successive_o communicate_v by_o they_o to_o his_o people_n §_o 44._o 3._o sufficient_a if_o god_n have_v by_o tradition_n at_o least_o clear_o reveal_v to_o these_o church-guide_n the_o sense_n of_o such_o scripture_n as_o be_v in_o point_n necessary_a any_o way_n obscure_a ibid._n 4._o sufficient_a if_o god_n in_o the_o scripture_n have_v clear_o enough_o reveal_v all_o necessary_a truth_n to_o the_o capacity_n of_o these_o church-guide_n use_v due_a mean_n though_o he_o have_v not_o to_o the_o capacity_n of_o the_o unlearned_a for_o from_o those_o these_o may_v learn_v they_o §_o 45._o ii_o concern_v a_o live_a guide_n 1._o that_o where_o the_o scripture_n especial_o several_a text_n compare_v be_v ambiguous_a and_o in_o controversy_n the_o christian_n guide_n to_o know_v the_o true_a sense_n can_v be_v the_o scripture_n but_o either_o the_o church_n or_o their_o own_o judgement_n §_o 46._o n._n 1._o 2._o that_o it_o be_v not_o necessary_a that_o god_n in_o the_o scripture_n shall_v direct_v christian_n to_o what_o guide_n they_o be_v to_o repair_v §_o 46._o n._n 2._o or_o to_o what_o church_n prelate_n or_o party_n in_o any_o schism_n christian_n for_o ever_o ought_v to_o adhere_v §_o 47._o n._n 2._o 3._o yet_o that_o god_n have_v give_v christian_n a_o sufficient_a direction_n herein_o in_o his_o leave_v a_o due_a subordination_n among_o these_o governor_n whereby_o the_o inferior_n be_v subject_v to_o the_o superior_a and_o a_o par●_n unto_o the_o whole_a §_o 47._o n._n 3._o and_o that_o christian_n may_v more_o clear_o know_v the_o sense_n of_o their_o definition_n in_o matter_n controvert_v than_o the_o sense_n of_o the_o scripture_n §_o 48._o the_o three_o discourse_n examine_v what_o measure_n of_o obedience_n be_v due_a to_o these_o guide_n and_o to_o the_o supreme_a ecclesiastical_a judge_n of_o controversy_n the_o content_n chap._n 1._o roman_n catholic_n and_o protestant_n do_v agree_v 1._o that_o the_o scripture_n speak_v of_o those_o book_n by_o the_o protestant_n style_v canonical_a be_v the_o word_n of_o god_n §_o 1._o 2._o that_o in_o these_o scripture_n agree_v on_o it_o be_v clear_o declare_v that_o the_o church_n catholic_n of_o no_o age_n shall_v err_v in_o necessary_n §_o 2._o 3._o that_o the_o church_n catholic_n be_v contradistinct_a to_o heretical_a and_o schismatical_a church_n §_o 4._o 4._o that_o christ_n have_v leave_v in_o his_o church_n pastor_n and_o teacher_n to_o keep_v it_o from_o be_v toss_v to_o and_o fro_o and_o carry_v about_o with_o every_o wind_n of_o doctrine_n §_o 5._o chap._n 2._o catholic_n go_v on_o and_o affirm_v 5._o that_o the_o church_n guide_v at_o least_o assemble_v in_o lawful_a general_n council_n shall_v never_o err_v in_o their_o determine_a thing_n of_o necessary_a faith_n §_o 6._o 6._o shall_v never_o err_v in_o necessary_n not_o take_v for_o those_o that_o be_v absolute_o require_v but_o for_o all_o that_o be_v very_o beneficial_a to_o salvation_n §_o 9_o 7._o shall_v never_o err_v in_o they_o not_o as_o infalliblly_v inspire_v to_o teach_v any_o new_a but_o as_o divine_o assist_v in_o deliver_v of_o the_o former_a revelation_n and_o tradition_n wherein_o they_o affirm_v that_o the_o church_n of_o all_o age_n since_o the_o apostle_n be_v for_o ever_o preserve_v equal_o infallible_a §_o 10._o 8._o that_o for_o know_v what_o or_o how_o many_o of_o former_a council_n have_v be_v lawful_o general_n and_o oblige_v a_o christian_a may_v safe_o rely_v on_o the_o general_n judgement_n of_o the_o church_n since_o the_o sit_v of_o such_o council_n §_o 11._o 9_o that_o in_o the_o absence_n of_o a_o considerable_a part_n of_o the_o church-governor_n from_o some_o council_n yet_o their_o acceptance_n of_o its_o decree_n or_o concurrence_n with_o its_o doctrine_n render_v it_o equivalent_a to_o a_o council_n general_n §_o 13._o 10._o that_o particular_a person_n or_o church_n part_n of_o the_o whole_a be_v oblige_v to_o submit_v their_o judgement_n and_o yield_v their_o assent_n to_o the_o definition_n of_o the_o whole_a §_o 14._o chap._n 3_o 11._o that_o whatever_o particular_a person_n or_o church_n hold_v the_o contrary_a to_o any_o know_a definition_n pass_v in_o a_o matter_n of_o faith_n of_o any_o lawful_a general_n council_n be_v heretical_a §_o 16._o 12._o that_o any_o particular_a person_n or_o church_n which_o for_o any_o cause_n whatever_o do_v actual_o relinquish_v and_o separate_v from_o the_o external_a communion_n of_o the_o present_a church_n catholic_n be_v schismatical_a §_o 20._o 13._o but_o yet_o that_o several_a person_n or_o church_n coordinate_a may_v without_o schism_n differ_v in_o any_o thing_n opinion_n or_o practice_v wherein_o they_o be_v not_o oblige_v to_o accord_v by_o their_o common_a superior_n or_o by_o the_o whole_a §_o 23._o chap._n 4._o but_o protestant_n after_o the_o four_o first_o proposition_n concede_v in_o some_o sense_n do_v thus_o endeavour_v to_o qualify_v and_o restrain_v they_o 5._o in_o grant_v the_o catholic_n church_n in_o all_o age_n unerrable_a in_o necessary_n they_o understand_v only_o such_o few_o necessary_n without_o the_o explicit_a belief_n of_o which_o salvation_n can_v be_v attain_v §_o 24._o 6._o therefore_o also_o they_o affirm_v that_o though_o the_o church_n catholic_n can_v err_v in_o such_o point_n absolute_o necessary_a to_o salvation_n yet_o it_o or_o all_o particular_a church_n in_o some_o one_o age_n or_o age_n may_v in_o other_o the_o error_n wherein_o be_v dangerous_a to_o salvation_n gross_a damnable_a etc._n etc._n §_o 25._o because_o it_o appear_v that_o many_o of_o the_o chief_a point_n from_o which_o protestant_n dissent_v be_v general_a tenant_n and_o practice_n
at_o the_o come_n of_o luther_n §_o 36._o 7._o they_o affirm_v that_o though_o the_o church_n catholic_n can_v yet_o general_a council_n such_o as_o be_v not_o universal_o accept_v by_o the_o church_n diffusive_a may_v err_v in_o absolute_a necessary_n to_o salvation_n and_o that_o the_o council_n also_o universal_o accept_v may_v err_v in_o nonfundamentals_a or_o non-necessaries_a §_o 34._o 8._o yet_o that_o they_o allow_v all_o such_o council_n as_o be_v general_o accept_v by_o the_o church_n diffusive_a to_o be_v either_o lawful_o general_n or_o equivalent_a thereto_o and_o also_o to_o be_v infallible_a in_o necessary_n §_o 35._o where_o that_o necessary_n in_o their_o sense_n restrain_v only_o to_o a_o very_a few_o point_n of_o the_o faith_n and_o universal_a acceptation_n extend_v to_o all_o sect_n of_o christian_n do_v free_a they_o from_o any_o obligation_n to_o all_o or_o most_o council_n former_o hold_v in_o the_o church_n §_o 36._o 9_o and_o that_o they_o grant_v a_o obedience_n due_a to_o the_o definition_n and_o decree_n of_o such_o counsel_n from_o all_o inferior_a person_n or_o church_n §_o 38._o 10._o but_o this_o obedience_n not_o necessary_o that_o of_o assent_n to_o their_o decree_n unless_o such_o decree_n be_v in_o and_o know_v to_o be_v in_o necessary_n but_o only_a of_o silence_n and_o non-publick_a contradiction_n §_o 39_o where_o concern_v the_o quality_n of_o the_o obedience_n that_o be_v yield_v by_o the_o church_n of_o england_n to_o the_o decree_n of_o the_o first_o general_n council_n §_o 40._o 11._o nor_o this_o silence_n or_o noncontradiction_n general_o due_a to_o all_o the_o decree_n of_o such_o council_n but_o only_o to_o such_o decree_n wherein_o the_o error_n of_o the_o council_n be_v not_o manifest_a or_o intolerable_a §_o 43._o nor_o this_o breach_n of_o silence_n or_o contradiction_n of_o such_o decree_n allow_v only_o so_o far_o as_o to_o make_v complaint_n to_o superior_n who_o not_o allow_v their_o complaint_n they_o be_v to_o acquiesce_v but_o allow_v so_o far_o as_o that_o they_o may_v proceed_v upon_o the_o superior_n by_o them-conceived_n neglect_v of_o a_o redress_n to_o a_o reformation_n §_o 44._o 12._o and_o the_o judgement_n when_o such_o error_n be_v manifest_a and_o intolerable_a and_o to_o be_v reform_v leave_v to_o every_o particular_a person_n or_o church_n for_o themselves_o §_o 47._o chap._n 5._o 13._o according_o they_o declare_v and_o confine_v heresy_n to_o be_v a_o error_n obstinate_o maintain_v not_o against_o some_o church-definition_n but_o some_o fundamental_a article_n of_o the_o faith_n without_o allow_v any_o certain_a judge_n what_o or_o how_o many_o article_n be_v fundamental_a and_o so_o what_o be_v heresy_n §_o 51._o 14._o concern_v schism_n one_a in_o respect_n of_o inferior_n they_o declare_v it_o to_o be_v not_o any_o separation_n whatever_o but_o a_o separation_n causeless_a §_o 55._o or_o also_o as_o some_o more_o straiten_v it_o a_o separation_n in_o essential_o §_o 57_o from_o the_o communion_n of_o other_o church_n or_o of_o the_o church_n catholic_n here_o again_o without_o leave_v we_o any_o certain_a judge_n what_o point_n be_v essential_o or_o when_o the_o separation_n causeless_a and_o consequent_o when_o schism_n unless_o perhaps_o the_o separatist_n be_v this_o judge_n 2._o again_o in_o respect_n of_o superior_n they_o enlarge_v schism_n and_o declare_v they_o also_o guilty_a of_o it_o so_o often_o as_o by_o require_v unjust_a condition_n of_o their_o communion_n from_o inferior_n they_o give_v the_o cause_n of_o separation_n whereby_o the_o chief_a and_o govern_v body_n of_o the_o clergy_n of_o the_o whole_a catholic_n church_n at_o luther_n appearance_n seem_v by_o they_o charge_v with_o schism_n and_o that_o from_o the_o catholic_n church_n §_o 61._o whether_o the_o ecclesiastical_a superior_n when_o depart_v from_o no_o other_o their_o superior_n can_v become_v in_o respect_n of_o their_o subject_n guilty_a of_o schism_n §_o 63._o n._n 1._o chap._n 6._o a_o reflection_n on_o the_o former_a different_a thesis_n of_o these_o two_o party_n concern_v church-authority_n and_o the_o obedience_n due_a thereto_o §_o 64._o and_o a_o review_n of_o the_o two_o present_a opposite_a church_n which_o of_o they_o most_o resemble_v the_o ancient_a catholic_n church_n §_o 67._o the_o face_n *_o of_o the_o ancient_a catholic_n church_n ib._n *_o of_o the_o present_a roman_a church_n §_o 72._o *_o of_o the_o present_a protestant_a church_n §_o 76._o a_o enquiry_n chap._n 7._o whether_o the_o church_n of_o england_n do_v not_o require_v obedience_n of_o assent_n or_o belief_n to_o her_o article_n of_o religion_n several_a canon_n in_o her_o synond_n seem_v to_o require_v it_o §_o 83._o n._n 1_o the_o complaint_n of_o the_o presbyterian_o conc_fw-fr it_o §_o 83._o n._n 4._o the_o doctrine_n of_o her_o divine_n conc_fw-fr it_o §_o 84._o n._n 1._o where_o conc._n the_o just_a importance_n of_o negative_a article_n §_o 84._o n._n 1._o and_o 85._o n._n 2._o and_o conc._n conditional_a assent_n §_o 84._o n._n 4._o and_o 85._o n._n 10._o that_o to_o some_o of_o the_o 39_o article_n assent_n be_v due_a and_o aught_o to_o be_v require_v by_o the_o church_n of_o england_n from_o her_o subject_n §_o 85._o n._n 1._o that_o the_o roman_a church_n do_v not_o require_v assent_n to_o all_o the_o canon_n of_o her_o council_n as_o to_o point_n fundamental_a i._n e._n of_o any_o of_o which_o a_o christian_a nescient_fw-la can_v be_v save_v §_o 85._o n._n 4._o that_o the_o require_v of_o obedience_n either_o of_o assent_n or_o noncontradiction_n by_o the_o church_n of_o england_n to_o all_o the_o 39_o article_n seem_v contrary_a to_o the_o law_n of_o the_o church_n and_o to_o the_o protestant_a principle_n §_o 85._o n._n 11._o chap._n 8._o solution_n of_o several_a protestant_a question_n concern_v the_o supreme_a ecclesiastical_a guide_n or_o judge_n of_o controversy_n §_o 86._o 1._o q._n from_o what_o we_o can_v be_v assure_v that_o council_n be_v infallible_a since_o neither_o the_o text_n of_o scripture_n the_o sense_n whereof_o be_v dispute_v nor_o the_o decree_n of_o any_o council_n who_o err_a be_v the_o thing_n question_v can_v give_v such_o assurance_n ib._n 2._o q._n whence_o general_n council_n have_v their_o infallibility_n such_o promise_n if_o make_v be_v make_v only_o to_o the_o church_n diffusive_a and_o not_o delegable_a by_o this_o church_n to_o other_o or_o if_o so_o no_o such_o delegation_n from_o the_o universal_a church_n appear_v before_o hand_n to_o have_v be_v make_v to_o all_o or_o any_o general_n council_n §_o 91._o 3._o q._n how_o the_o infallibility_n of_o general_n council_n be_v necessary_a or_o serviceable_a to_o the_o church_n without_o which_o council_n the_o church_n subsist_v for_o several_a age_n most_o orthodox_n §_o 98._o 4._o q._n how_o lawful_a general_n council_n which_o experience_n have_v show_v to_o have_v contradict_v one_o another_o can_v be_v all_o infallible_a §_o 100_o 5._o q._n lawful_a general_n council_n be_v suppose_v to_o be_v liable_a to_o error_n in_o some_o thing_n how_o christian_n can_v be_v assure_v concern_v any_o particular_a point_n that_o these_o council_n do_v not_o err_v §_o 101._o 6._o q._n whilst_o such_o council_n be_v suppose_v infallible_a how_o if_o they_o shall_v not_o be_v so_o can_v any_o error_n of_o they_o be_v rectify_v §_o 102._o 7._o q._n whether_o such_o council_n only_o when_o confirm_v by_o the_o pope_n or_o also_o unconfirmed_a by_o he_o be_v infallible_a §_o 104._o 8._o q._n how_o the_o pope_n confirmation_n can_v any_o way_n concur_v to_o such_o council_n non-erring_a since_o if_o it_o err_v it_o do_v so_o still_o though_o he_o approve_v it_o if_o orthodox_n it_o be_v so_o still_o he_o not_o approve_v it_o §_o 105._o 9_o q._n in_o which_o the_o pope_n or_o the_o council_n this_o infallibility_n lie_v if_o in_o one_o of_o they_o the_o other_o needless_a if_o in_o both_o then_o either_o of_o they_o sufficient_a such_o quality_n be_v where_o they_o be_v indivisible_a and_o without_o integral_a part_n §_o 106._o chap._n 9_o 10._o q._n if_o general_a council_n infallible_a whether_o they_o be_v so_o in_o their_o conclusion_n only_o which_o will_v infer_v enthusiasm_n or_o new_a revelation_n or_o also_o in_o their_o premise_n and_o proof_n upon_o which_o assent_n will_v be_v due_a also_o to_o all_o their_o argument_n §_o 107._o 11._o q._n why_o be_v infallible_a in_o their_o conclusion_n or_o definition_n they_o do_v not_o end_v all_o controversy_n but_o leave_v so_o many_o unresolved_a §_o 108._o 12._o q._n how_o such_o infallibility_n of_o they_o differ_v from_o that_o of_o the_o apostle_n and_o that_o of_o their_o decree_n from_o that_o of_o scripture_n §_o 109._o 13._o q._n how_o many_o person_n or_o guide_v all_o fallible_a can_v make_v one_o infallible_a §_o 112._o 14._o q._n suppose_v all_o lawful_a general_n council_n
9_o and_o 20._o affirm_v indeed_o the_o church_n catholic_n according_a to_o the_o former_a proposition_n to_o be_v always_o unerrable_a in_o fundamental_o or_o necessary_n but_o then_o by_o church_n catholic_n they_o mean_v such_o a_o church_n as_o neither_o be_v nor_o can_v be_v any_o guide_n to_o we_o careful_o distinguish_v between_o the_o church_n catholic_n and_o her_o general_a council_n and_o hold_v that_o even_o in_o fundamental_o all_o her_o council_n whatever_o except_o such_o as_o be_v in_o their_o way_n universal_o accept_v 36._o accept_v see_v below_o §_o 36_o 38_o disc_n 3_o §._o 36._o may_v err_v think_v she_o can_v to_o this_o purpose_n see_v mr._n chillingw_o cap._n 3._o §_o 39_o discourse_v on_o this_o manner_n i_o must_v tell_v you_o you_o be_v too_o bold_a in_o take_v that_o which_o no_o man_n grant_v you_o that_o the_o church_n catholic_n be_v a_o infallible_a director_n in_o fundamental_o §_o 4_o for_o if_o she_o be_v so_o then_o must_v we_o not_o only_o learn_v 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make_v any_o church_n a_o infallible_a guide_n in_o fundamental_o will_v be_v to_o make_v it_o infallible_a in_o all_o thing_n which_o she_o propose_v and_o require_v to_o be_v believe_v and_o cap._n 5._o §_o 60._o you_o suppose_v untrue_o that_o there_o be_v any_o that_o visible_a church_n i_o mean_v any_o visible_a church_n of_o one_o denomination_n which_o can_v err_v in_o point_n fundamental_a §_o 5_o where_o you_o may_v observe_v that_o mr._n chillingworthtake_v the_o church-catholick_n that_o be_v infallible_a only_o for_o some_o certain_a person_n in_o some_o place_n or_o other_o profess_v christianity_n who_o whilst_o the_o world_n last_v de_fw-la facto_fw-la do_v not_o err_v in_o fundamental_o and_o that_o as_o he_o affirm_v no_o church_n of_o one_o denomination_n to_o be_v infallible_a in_o fundamental_o so_o he_o hold_v neither_o any_o council_n nor_o any_o visible_a body_n of_o ecclesiastical_a magistrate_n whatsoever_o or_o how_o far_o soever_o extend_v that_o propose_v to_o christian_n matter_n of_o religion_n to_o be_v in_o fallible_a in_o fundamental_o as_o you_o may_v see_v quite_o through_o the_o three_o chap._n of_o his_o book_n and_o as_o be_v manifest_a also_o from_o his_o reason_n against_o the_o one_o which_o be_v of_o like_a force_n against_o the_o other_o therefore_o though_o he_o frequent_o name_v church_n of_o one_o denomination_n and_o not_o council_n yet_o you_o shall_v find_v that_o to_o this_o church_n of_o one_o denomination_n errable_a he_o oppose_v not_o council_n un-erring_a but_o only_o some_o man_n in_o the_o world_n while_o the_o world_n last_v de_fw-la facto_fw-la not_o err_a and_o to_o these_o it_o be_v and_o not_o to_o council_n or_o any_o ecclesiastical_a governor_n that_o he_o appli_v our_o saviour_n promise_n yet_o what_o hinder_v but_o that_o the_o church-catholick_n in_o some_o time_n as_o it_o stand_v contradistinct_a to_o heretical_a and_o schismatical_a church_n may_v be_v in_o his_o sense_n a_o church_n of_o one_o denomination_n nay_o any_o church_n that_o be_v so_o unite_a as_o to_o give_v law_n and_o to_o have_v all_o its_o member_n involve_v in_o one_o external_a communion_n though_o it_o be_v a_o aggregate_v of_o many_o particular_a church_n and_o those_o in_o several_a nation_n true_o be_v so_o and_o the_o church-catholick_n always_o be_v but_o one_o as_o we_o confess_v it_o in_o our_o creed_n but_o one_o body_n it_o be_v and_o therefore_o not_o uncapable_a of_o one_o name_n or_o denomination_n and_o hence_o all_o the_o western_a church_n in_o the_o time_n of_o luther_n have_v only_o one_o external_a communion_n may_v be_v say_v to_o be_v a_o church_n of_o one_o denomination_n and_o so_o be_v for_o a_o long_a time_n both_o the_o eastern_a and_o western_a this_o caution_n i_o think_v meet_v to_o give_v you_o that_o his_o seem_a limitation_n of_o one_o denomination_n may_v not_o deceive_v you_o §_o 6_o after_o he_o thus_o also_o dr._n hammond_n in_o defence_n of_o the_o lord_n falkland_n discourse_n against_o the_o exception_n 23._o exception_n c._n 1._o §._o 5_o 6._o p._n 23._o i_o shall_v say_v he_o thus_o far_o consent_v with_o you_o first_o that_o the_o universal_a church_n be_v in_o fundamental_o infallible_a but_o then_o this_o infallibility_n must_v signify_v no_o more_o or_o be_v to_o be_v no_o far_o extend_v than_o that_o christ_n do_v and_o will_v so_o defend_v his_o church_n that_o there_o shall_v be_v for_o ever_o till_o the_o end_n of_o the_o world_n a_o church_n christian_n on_o the_o earth_n i._n e._n that_o the_o whole_a church_n shall_v not_o at_o once_o make_v a_o universal_a defection_n err_v from_o the_o foundation_n or_o do_v any_o thing_n by_o which_o there_o shall_v cease_v to_o be_v a_o church_n on_o the_o earth_n but_o then_o 2_o i_o say_v that_o this_o very_a universal_a church_n though_o it_o be_v in_o this_o sense_n infallible_a in_o fundamental_o be_v not_o yet_o a_o rule_n or_o canon_n or_o guide_n or_o judge_v infallible_a even_o in_o fundamental_o visible_a it_o be_v infallible_a it_o be_v but_o it_o be_v not_o a_o visible_a judge_n or_o rule_v infallible_a thus_o dr._n hammond_n here_o you_o see_v these_o author_n make_v a_o distinction_n between_o the_o church_n catholic_n and_o the_o body_n of_o her_o governor_n or_o her_o general_n council_n give_v law_n and_o in_o allow_v infallibility_n in_o necessary_n to_o the_o church_n catholic_n remove_v it_o from_o the_o general_n council_n because_o they_o think_v it_o not_o safe_a to_o allow_v the_o church_n catholic_n unerrable_a as_o a_o guide_n §_o 7_o but_o this_o their_o deny_v the_o church_n catholic_n to_o be_v unerrable_a as_o she_o be_v a_o guide_n reply_n reply_n seem_v utter_o contrary_a both_o to_o our_o saviour_n promise_n make_v to_o she_o in_o the_o scripture_n and_o also_o to_o the_o concession_n of_o other_o modern_a learned_a protestant_n which_o see_v below_o §_o 25_o etc._n etc._n 32_o etc._n etc._n first_o as_o concern_v our_o saviour_n promise_n 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and_o easy_a scripture_n the_o whole_a church_n can_v at_o any_o time_n be_v without_o the_o knowledge_n of_o it_o if_o a._n c._n mean_v no_o more_o than_o that_o the_o whole_a universal_a church_n of_o christ_n can_v universal_o err_v in_o any_o one_o point_n of_o faith_n simple_o necessary_a to_o all_o man_n salvation_n he_o fight_v against_o no_o adversary_n that_o i_o know_v but_o his_o own_o fiction_n for_o the_o most_o learned_a protestant_n grant_v it_o where_o he_o speak_v of_o the_o church_n as_o teach_v such_o point_n as_o appeareth_z by_o the_o context_n ibid._n p._n 139._o because_o the_o whole_a church_n can_v universal_o err_v in_o absolute_o fundamental_a doctrine_n therefore_o it_o be_v true_a also_o that_o there_o can_v be_v no_o just_a cause_n of_o make_v a_o schism_n from_o the_o whole_a church_n that_o she_o may_v err_v indeed_o in_o superstruction_n and_o deduction_n and_o other_o by-and_a unnecessary_a truth_n from_o her_o curiosity_n or_o other_o weakness_n but_o 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necessity_n of_o god_n grace_n etc._n etc._n §_o 43._o 2._o that_o the_o more_o clear_a all_o necessary_n be_v in_o scripture_n still_o with_o the_o more_o security_n may_v christian_n rely_v for_o they_o on_o the_o church_n judgement_n from_o which_o also_o they_o receive_v these_o scripture_n §_o 41._o 3._o that_o there_o be_v no_o necessity_n that_o all_o necessary_n shall_v be_v reveal_v in_o scripture_n as_o to_o all_o man_n clear_o §_o 41._o 1._o because_o it_o be_v sufficient_a if_o god_n have_v leave_v this_o one_o point_n clear_a in_o scripture_n that_o we_o shall_v in_o all_o difficulty_n and_o obscurity_n of_o they_o follow_v the_o direction_n and_o adhere_v to_o the_o exposition_n and_o doctrine_n of_o these_o guide_n §_o 41._o 2._o sufficient_a if_o god_n have_v by_o other_o apostolical_a tradition_n at_o least_o clear_o reveal_v to_o these_o church-guide_n all_o such_o necessary_a truth_n to_o be_v successive_o communicate_v by_o they_o to_o his_o people_n §_o 44._o 3._o 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46._o n._n 2._o or_o to_o what_o church-prelate_n or_o party_n in_o any_o schism_n christian_n for_o ever_o ought_v to_o adhere_v §_o 47._o n._n 2._o 3._o yet_o that_o god_n have_v give_v christian_n a_o sufficient_a direction_n herein_o in_o his_o leave_v a_o due_a subordination_n among_o these_o governor_n whereby_o the_o inferior_n be_v subject_v to_o the_o superior_a and_o a_o part_n unto_o the_o whole_a §_o 47._o n._n 3._o and_o that_o christian_n may_v more_o clear_o know_v the_o sense_n of_o their_o definition_n in_o matter_n controvert_v than_o the_o sense_n of_o the_o scripture_n §_o 48._o the_o second_o discourse_n chap._n i._n protestant_n assent_v 1._o that_o there_o be_v at_o this_o present_a a_o one_o holy_a catholic_n and_o apostolic_a church_n §_o 1._o 2._o that_o the_o present_a pastor_n and_o governor_n thereof_o have_v authority_n to_o decide_v controversy_n §_o 2._o 3._o and_o that_o their_o governor_n shall_v never_o err_v or_o misguide_a christian_n at_o least_o 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23._o in_o the_o which_o the_o pure_a word_n of_o god_n be_v preach_v preach_v i_o suppose_v by_o its_o minister_n in_o all_o those_o thing_n that_o of_o necessity_n be_v requisite_a to_o the_o same_o church_n or_o congregation_n of_o the_o faithful_a and_o indeed_o otherwise_o either_o the_o first_o proposition_n a_o part_n of_o our_o creed_n will_v be_v false_a because_o since_o the_o people_n be_v oblige_v to_o the_o faith_n of_o these_o their_o governor_n heb._n 13.7_o eph._n 4.11_o compare_v 14._o the_o whole_a church_n will_v thus_o err_v in_o necessary_n and_o so_o will_v cease_v to_o be_v catholic_n or_o at_o least_o the_o catholic_n church_n in_o such_o deficiency_n of_o the_o clergy_n will_v be_v constitute_v whole_o of_o laic_n and_o of_o christ_n sheep_n without_o pastor_n save_o those_o who_o sacrament_n and_o communion_n as_o fall_v away_o from_o the_o catholic_n church_n in_o fundamental_o be_v unlawful_a which_o seem_v very_o absurd_a and_o contrary_a to_o the_o 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in_o that_o most_o reverend_a council_n of_o nice_a upon_o pretence_n that_o you_o have_v not_o have_v a_o convince_a proposal_n that_o this_o definition_n be_v therein_o make_v according_a to_o god_n word_n or_o the_o scripture_n yet_o how_o will_v you_o clear_v yourself_o or_o your_o socinian_n congregation_n of_o schism_n avoidable_o upon_o no_o plea_n of_o adherence_n to_o scripture_n if_o it_o shall_v appear_v that_o you_o have_v for_o this_o opinion_n desert_v the_o communion_n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n out_o of_o which_o church_n be_v no_o salvation_n soc._n 75._o soc._n dr._n potter_n p._n 75._o i_o grant_v there_o neither_o be_v nor_o can_v be_v any_o just_a cause_n to_o depart_v from_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n no_o more_o than_o from_o christ_n himself_n therefore_o i_o utter_o deny_v that_o our_o church_n have_v make_v any_o separation_n from_o the_o church_n catholic_n at_o all_o and_o this_o for_o many_o reason_n for_o 1_o 274._o 1_o chillingw_n p._n 274._o we_o have_v not_o forsake_v the_o whole_a church_n or_o the_o external_a communion_n of_o it_o but_o only_o that_o part_n of_o it_o which_o be_v corrupt_v and_o still_o will_v be_v so_o and_o have_v not_o forsake_v but_o only_o reform_v another_o part_n of_o it_o which_o part_n we_o ourselves_o be_v and_o i_o suppose_v you_o will_v not_o go_v about_o to_o persuade_v we_o that_o we_o have_v forsake_v ourselves_o or_o our_o own_o communion_n and_o if_o you_o urge_v that_o we_o join_v ourselves_o to_o no_o other_o part_n therefore_o we_o separate_v from_o the_o whole_a i_o say_v it_o follow_v not_o in_o as_o much_o as_o ourselves_o be_v a_o part_n of_o it_o and_o still_o continue_v so_o and_o therefore_o can_v no_o more_o separate_v from_o the_o whole_a than_o from_o ourselves_o prot._n so_o then_o it_o seem_v we_o need_v fear_v no_o schism_n from_o the_o church_n catholic_n tilla_fw-la part_n can_v divide_v from_o itself_o which_o can_v never_o be_v §_o 29_o soc._n next_o as_o for_o our_o separate_n from_o all_o other_o particular_a church_n the_o ground_n of_o our_o separation_n be_v a_o error_n which_o have_v creep_v into_o the_o communion_n of_o these_o church_n and_o which_o be_v unjust_o impose_v upon_o we_o in_o order_n to_o this_o communion_n we_o conceive_v in_o this_o case_n if_o any_o they_o not_o we_o be_v the_o schismatic_n for_o as_o the_o arch._n bp._n 142._o bp._n lawd_n p._n 142._o the_o schism_n be_v they_o who_o the_o cause_n of_o it_o be_v and_o he_o make_v the_o separation_n who_o give_v the_o first_o just_a cause_n of_o it_o not_o he_o that_o make_v a_o actual_a separation_n upon_o a_o just_a cause_n precede_v §_o 30_o again_n though_o we_o have_v make_v a_o actual_a separation_n from_o they_o as_o to_o the_o not-conforming_a to_o or_o also_o as_o to_o the_o reform_v of_o a_o error_n yet_o 1_o as_o to_o charity_n we_o do_v still_o retain_v with_o the_o same_o church_n our_o former_a communion_n 32._o communion_n dr._n ferne_n division_n of_o church_n p._n 105._o and_o 31_o 32._o not_o divide_v from_o they_o through_o the_o breach_n of_o charity_n or_o condemn_v all_o other_o church_n as_o no_o part_n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n and_o draw_v the_o communion_n whole_o to_o ourselves_o as_o do_v those_o famous_a schismatic_n the_o donatist_n §_o 31_o next_o as_o to_o matter_n of_o faith_n we_o hold_v that_o all_o separation_n from_o all_o particular_a church_n in_o such_o a_o thing_n wherein_o the_o unity_n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n do_v not_o consist_v be_v no_o separation_n from_o the_o whole_a church_n nor_o any_o more_o than_o our_o suspension_n from_o the_o communion_n of_o particular_a church_n till_o such_o their_o error_n be_v reform_v for_o as_o mr._n stillingf_n 331._o stillingf_n p._n 331._o there_o can_v be_v no_o separation_n from_o the_o whole_a church_n but_o in_o such_o thing_n wherein_o the_o unity_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n lie_v who_o be_v therefore_o separate_v from_o any_o particular_a church_n as_o to_o thing_n not_o concern_v their_o be_v be_v only_o separate_v from_o the_o communion_n of_o that_o church_n and_o not_o the_o catholic_n now_o that_o for_o which_o we_o have_v separate_v from_o other_o church_n we_o conceive_v not_o such_o as_o be_v essential_a or_o concern_v the_o be_v of_o a_o church_n so_o that_o without_o it_o we_o or_o they_o can_v still_o retain_v the_o essence_n thereof_o we_o declare_v also_o our_o readiness_n to_o join_v with_o they_o again_o if_o this_o error_n be_v correct_v or_o at_o least_o not_o impose_v and_o ib._n and_o still_v ib._n as_o mr._n stillingf_n faith_n where_o there_o be_v this_o readiness_n of_o communion_n there_o be_v no_o absolute_a separation_n from_o the_o church_n as_o such_o but_o only_o suspend_v communion_n till_o such_o abuse_n be_v reform_v or_o not_o press_v upon_o we_o and_o as_o bp._n bramhall_n 9_o bramhall_n vindic._n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n p._n 9_o when_o one_o part_n of_o the_o universal_a church_n separate_v itself_o from_o another_o part_n not_o absolute_o or_o in_o essential_o but_o respective_o in_o abuse_n and_o innovation_n not_o as_o it_o be_v a_o part_n of_o the_o universal_a church_n but_o only_o so_o far_o as_o it_o be_v corrupt_v and_o degenerate_v whether_o in_o doctrine_n or_o manner_n it_o do_v still_o retain_v a_o communion_n not_o only_o with_o the_o catholic_n church_n and_o with_o all_o the_o orthodox_n member_n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n but_o even_o with_o that_o corrupt_a church_n from_o which_o it_o be_v separate_v except_o only_o in_o such_o corruption_n §_o 32_o prot._n save_v better_a judgement_n methinks_v a_o separation_n if_o causeless_o from_o the_o communion_n of_o all_o other_o church_n or_o from_o those_o who_o be_v our_o superior_n in_o a_o lesser_a matter_n than_o such_o a_o fundamental_a or_o essential_a point_n of_o christianity_n as_o destroy_v the_o be_v of_o a_o church_n shall_v be_v schism_n and_o the_o small_a the_o point_n for_o which_o we_o separate_v the_o great_a the_o guilt_n of_o our_o separation_n be_v not_o the_o donatists_n schismatic_n in_o reject_v the_o catholic_n communion_n require_v their_o conformity_n in_o such_o a_o point_n in_o which_o st._n cyprian_n error_n before_o the_o church_n define_v thereof_o be_v very_o excusable_a and_o the_o african_a congregation_n in_o his_o time_n not_o un-churched_n thereby_o soc._n 76._o soc._n dr._n potter_n p._n 76._o but_o the_o donatist_n do_v cut_v off_o from_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n and_o the_o hope_n of_o salvation_n the_o church_n from_o which_o they_o separate_v which_o be_v the_o property_n of_o schismatic_n and_o 106._o and_o stillingf_n p._n 359._o division_n of_o church_n p._n 106._o they_o be_v just_o charge_v with_o schism_n because_o they_o confine_v the_o catholic_n church_n within_o their_o own_o bound_n but_o as_o dr._n ferne_n say_v †_o have_v the_o donatist_n only_o use_v their_o liberty_n and_o judgement_n in_o that_o practice_n of_o rebaptise_v heretic_n leave_v other_o church_n to_o their_o liberty_n and_o though_o think_v they_o in_o a_o error_n for_o admit_v heretic_n without_o baptise_v they_o yet_o willing_a to_o have_v communion_n with_o they_o as_o part_n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n save_v the_o practice_n wherein_o they_o differ_v then_o have_v they_o not_o be_v guilty_a of_o schism_n in_o that_o which_o i_o hold_v i_o only_o follow_v my_o conscience_n condemn_v not_o the_o church_n hold_v otherwise_o on_o the_o other_o side_n 278._o side_n chillingw_n p._n 278._o christ_n have_v forbid_v i_o under_o pain_n of_o damnation_n to_o profess_v what_o i_o believe_v not_o be_v it_o small_a or_o great_a and_o consequent_o under_o the_o same_o penalty_n have_v oblige_v i_o to_o leave_v that_o communion_n in_o which_o i_o can_v remain_v wothout_n the_o hypocritical_a profession_n of_o such_o a_o thing_n which_o i_o be_o convince_v to_o be_v eroneous_a 279._o eroneous_a ib._n 279._o at_o least_o this_o i_o know_v that_o the_o doctrine_n which_o i_o have_v choose_v to_o i_o seem_v true_a and_o the_o contrary_a which_o i_o have_v forsake_v seem_v false_a and_o therefore_o without_o remorse_n of_o conscience_n i_o may_v profess_v that_o but_o this_o i_o can_v and_o a_o separation_n for_o preserve_v my_o conscience_n i_o hope_v will_v never_o be_v judge_v causeless_o §_o 33_o prot._n at_o this_o rate_n none_o will_v be_v a_o schismatic_a but_o he_o who_o know_v he_o err_v i_o e._n not_o who_o hold_v but_o only_o who_o profess_v a_o error_n or_o who_o know_v that_o the_o point_n for_o the_o nonconformity_n to_o which_o require_v of_o he_o he_o desert_n the_o church_n be_v a_o truth_n and_o the_o contrary_a which_o he_o maintain_v a_o error_n but_o dr._n hammond_n 25._o hammond_n of_o schism_n p._n 23._o 24._o 25._o tell_v you_o that_o he_o that_o do_v communinate_a with_o those_o i_o suppose_v he_o mean_v