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B12489 A persvvasion to the English recusants, to reconcile themselues to the Church of England Written for the better satisfaction of those which be ignorant. By Iohn Doue Doctor of Diuinitie. Dove, John, 1560 or 61-1618. 1603 (1603) STC 7085; ESTC S110110 29,134 40

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