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and_o vossius_fw-la distinguish_v wide_n be_v the_o difference_n of_o a_o church_n in_o the_o constitution_n when_o man_n of_o ripe_a year_n must_v receive_v the_o first_o seal_n from_o a_o church_n constitute_v wherein_o the_o first_o seal_n descend_v from_o the_o believer_n to_o his_o child_n for_o any_o precept_n that_o appear_v in_o the_o old_a or_o new_a testament_n to_o the_o contrary_n but_o mr_n t._n faith_n in_o his_o second_o particular_a which_o will_v nothing_o please_v the_o anabaptist_n perhaps_o it_o be_v not_o necessary_a to_o be_v say_v that_o the_o baptism_n of_o infant_n because_o not_o lawful_a be_v not_o therefore_o null_a note_n note_n we_o reply_v mr_n t._n speak_v but_o perhaps_o and_o it_o be_v not_o necessary_a and_o to_o say_v so_o but_o what_o perhaps_o will_v m._n t._n say_v and_o how_o necessary_o say_v baptism_n of_o infant_n be_v all_o null_n by_o that_o time_n he_o have_v full_o concoct_v this_o principle_n of_o the_o unlawfullnesse_n of_o the_o 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character_n he_o will_v easy_o be_v a_o commentator_n to_o himself_o upon_o mr_n tomb_n his_o warp_a judgement_n to_o mr_n t._n his_o three_o particular_a wherein_o he_o aessert_v that_o there_o be_v in_o the_o church_n baptism_n of_o person_n grow_v in_o all_o age_n and_o quote_v ludovicus_n vives_z to_o prove_v it_o we_o reply_v first_o to_o his_o assertion_n first_o that_o be_v very_o general_a for_o a_o answer_n to_o a_o argument_n there_o be_v person_n how_o many_o in_o all_o age_n what_o mean_v that_o in_o every_o hundred_o year_n or_o ordinary_a age_n of_o man_n suppose_v sixty_o year_n or_o less_o what_o be_v all_o this_o to_o clear_v a_o continue_a succession_n of_o the_o church_n in_o point_n of_o baptise_v person_n of_o ripe_a year_n second_o let_v we_o deal_v plain_o one_o with_o another_o in_o thing_n of_o this_o nature_n can_n m._n t._n or_o any_o else_o produce_v proof_n that_o in_o england_n scotland_n ireland_n etc._n etc._n there_o have_v be_v baptize_v in_o either_o of_o these_o at_o least_o one_o of_o ripe_a year_n every_o year_n for_o these_o 80_o or_o a_o 100_o year_n last_o pass_v if_o not_o or_o if_o so_o where_o be_v a_o sufficient_a number_n to_o continue_v the_o succession_n of_o church_n we_o talk_v of_o in_o point_n of_o adult-baptisme_n baptism_n of_o person_n of_o ripe_a year_n 2_o to_o his_o quotation_n of_o lord_v vives_z we_o say_v first_o he_o be_v but_o of_o yesterday_o to_o say_v without_o proof_n what_o have_v be_v in_o former_a age_n for_o in_o all_o his_o note_n on_o august_n he_o cite_v not_o one_o scripture_n not_o one_o antiquity_n not_o one_o author_n nor_o any_o thing_n that_o may_v go_v for_o a_o reason_n but_o only_o tell_v we_o of_o a_o fashion_n of_o question_n put_v to_o humane-devised_n godfather_n and_o godmother_n as_o they_o call_v they_o and_o of_o a_o hear-say_n out_o of_o italy_n a_o likely_a place_n to_o preserve_v any_o pure_a truth_n 2._o though_o lud._n vives_z be_v a_o good_a scholar_n in_o art_n yet_o we_o must_v not_o give_v credit_n to_o he_o in_o divine_a thing_n when_o his_o phrase_n depart_v from_o purity_n and_o his_o assertion_n from_o verity_n he_o say_v nem_v olin_n sacro_fw-la admovebatur_fw-la baptisterio_fw-la that_o be_v no_o man_n of_o old_a be_v bring_v unto_o the_o holy_a baptistery_n font_n or_o vessel_n to_o wash_v in_o he_o put_v holiness_n in_o or_o upon_o the_o vessel_n in_o which_o these_o person_n of_o ripe_a year_n be_v baptize_v for_o it_o shall_v seem_v by_o he_o they_o be_v not_o baptize_v in_o a_o river_n which_o phrase_n of_o lud._n vives_z mr_n tomb_n cover_v with_o a_o double_a garment_n first_o translate_n baptisterio_n by_o the_o word_n place_n that_o being_n wide_a enough_o in_o signification_n to_o include_v river_n second_o translate_n sacro_fw-la baptisterio_n the_o holy_a place_n by_o the_o place_n of_o holy_a baptism_n lord_v vives_z go_v on_o nisi_fw-la adulta_fw-la jam_fw-la aetate_fw-la that_o be_v unless_o he_o be_v of_o ripe_a age_n already_o now_o this_o be_v a_o gross_a mistake_n and_o opposite_a to_o the_o best_a approve_a antiquity_n that_o tell_v we_o it_o be_v a_o know_a custom_n in_o the_o church_n to_o baptize_v infant_n within_o few_o year_n after_o the_o death_n of_o the_o apostle_n john_n and_o therefore_o this_o custom_n can_v not_o total_o invade_v the_o church_n on_o such_o a_o sudden_a without_o any_o mention_n in_o antiquity_n but_o flow_v doubtless_o down_o from_o the_o apostle_n so_o justin_n martyr_n irenaeus_n origen_n cyprian_n gregory_n natianzen_n ambrose_n augustine_n and_o other_o for_o the_o pretence_n make_v by_o mr_n t._n against_o some_o quotation_n of_o those_o father_n i_o doubt_v not_o but_o to_o take_v they_o off_o and_o to_o justify_v these_o antiquity_n when_o we_o come_v in_o our_o xiii_o chapter_n to_o mr_n tomb_n his_o four_o argument_n against_o the_o baptise_v of_o believer_n infant_n in_o his_o exercitation_n §_o 17._o for_o the_o present_a we_o have_v no_o more_o to_o say_v to_z vives_z or_o mr_n tomb_n upon_o this_o argument_n but_o only_o to_o admire_v that_o mr_n tomb_n will_v translate_v vives_z as_o if_o he_o have_v say_v that_o the_o person_n of_o ripe_a year_n desire_v to_o be_v wash_v more_o than_o once_o in_o the_o water_n of_o baptism_n for_o so_o it_o lie_v fair_a in_o mr_n tomb_n his_o translation_n to_o please_v a_o anabaptist_n namely_o the_o person_n of_o ripe_a year_n desire_v to_o be_v wash_v in_o the_o water_n of_o baptism_n and_o that_o more_o than_o once_o whereas_o mr_n tomb_n follow_v the_o latin_a close_o which_o be_v so_o ablui_fw-la illâ—_n aquâ_fw-la peâ—eres_fw-la nec_fw-la semel_fw-la peteres_fw-la he_o may_v have_v translate_v clear_a that_o he_o desire_v and_o desire_a more_o than_o once_o what_o to_o be_v wash_v with_o that_o water_n chap._n x._o seventhly_o heb._n 6.2_o examine_v exercitat_fw-la §_o 14._o the_o argument_n from_o heb._n 6.2_o for_o infant-baptisme_n examine_v the_o apostle_n speak_v of_o the_o doctrine_n of_o baptism_n and_o lay_v on_o of_o hand_n now_o this_o be_v not_o likely_a to_o be_v understand_v of_o lay_v on_o of_o hand_n in_o heal_a sick_a person_n or_o bestow_v the_o holy_a ghost_n for_o these_o be_v extraordinary_a or_o miraculous_a and_o therefore_o not_o to_o be_v put_v in_o the_o number_n of_o the_o principle_n of_o the_o oracle_n of_o god_n the_o foundation_n milk_n for_o babe_n nor_o of_o imposition_n of_o hand_n for_o ordination_n to_o special_a function_n in_o the_o church_n for_o that_o though_o ordinary_a yet_o not_o likely_a to_o be_v put_v among_o the_o principle_n the_o foundation_n milk_n for_o babe_n therefore_o it_o remain_v that_o it_o be_v the_o lay_v on_o of_o hand_n on_o child_n former_o baptize_v in_o infancy_n which_o though_o corrupt_o make_v a_o sacrament_n by_o papist_n and_o superstitious_o abuse_v yet_o be_v free_v from_o the_o
ratify_v their_o covenant_n make_v in_o baptism_n and_o so_o be_v confirm_v in_o their_o church_n estate_n by_o imposition_n of_o hand_n which_o imposition_n of_o hand_n be_v therefore_o reckon_v one_o of_o the_o six_o principle_n of_o the_o foundation_n of_o christian_a faith_n heb._n 6.2_o for_o it_o can_v not_o be_v a_o principle_n of_o faith_n it_o must_v be_v therefore_o a_o principle_n of_o the_o foundation_n of_o church-estate_n and_o order_n so_o mr_n cotton_n with_o much_o more_o before_o recite_v chap._n 7._o now_o let_v the_o world_n judge_n whether_o these_o man_n reading_n and_o reason_n or_o mr_n tomb_n his_o strain_a gloss_n give_v we_o rightly_o the_o meaning_n of_o heb._n 6.2_o to_o mr_n t._n his_o second_o answ_n we_o reply_v first_o that_o the_o learned_a man_n afore_o quote_v give_v we_o the_o sum_n of_o antiquity_n charitatem_fw-la antiquity_n tertul_n de_fw-fr baptismo_fw-la dehinc_fw-la manus_fw-la imponitur_fw-la per_fw-la benedictionem_fw-la etc._n etc._n cyprian_n ep._n 3._o &_o 70._o nunc_fw-la quoque_fw-la apud_fw-la nos_fw-la geritur_fw-la ut_fw-la qui_fw-la in_o ecclesia_fw-la baptizantur_fw-la per_fw-la praepositos_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la offerantur_fw-la &_o per_fw-la nostram_fw-la orationem_fw-la &_o manus_fw-la impositionem_fw-la spiritum_fw-la sanctum_fw-la consequantur_fw-la august_n tract_n 6._o in_o joan._n epist_n nuac_n quidem_fw-la they_o loqui_fw-la linguis_fw-la quibus_fw-la imponuntur_fw-la manus_fw-la post_fw-la baptisnum_fw-la tamenrevera_fw-la accipere_fw-la spiritum_fw-la sanctum_fw-la &_o latenter_fw-la alque_fw-la invisibiliter_fw-la infundi_fw-la charitatem_fw-la that_o there_o be_v a_o imposition_n of_o hand_n upon_o believer_n child_n to_o confirm_v that_o baptism_n they_o have_v receive_v be_v infant_n upon_o the_o confession_n of_o faith_n when_o grow_v up_o and_o to_o testify_v the_o church_n receive_v they_o now_o unto_o full_a membership_n and_o complete_a fruition_n of_o all_o church_n privilege_n as_o to_o partake_v of_o the_o lord_n supper_n etc._n etc._n and_o that_o this_o the_o text_n here_o call_v the_o doctrine_n of_o imposition_n of_o hand_n whereas_o the_o recital_n of_o the_o article_n of_o faith_n by_o those_o that_o be_v past_a infancy_n be_v child_n of_o heathen_n fit_v they_o for_o baptism_n be_v by_o the_o apostle_n precise_o and_o distinct_o from_o the_o other_o call_v the_o doctrine_n of_o baptism_n and_o be_v not_o this_o a_o proof_n sufficient_a that_o the_o common_a and_o ordinary_a imposition_n of_o hand_n be_v use_v after_o the_o baptism_n of_o infant_n only_o 2._o if_o mr_n t._n can_v prove_v out_o of_o antiquity_n for_o this_o text_n of_o heb._n 6.2_o have_v it_o not_o for_o he_o that_o a_o ceremony_n of_o impose_v hand_n upon_o the_o ripe_a age_v child_n of_o unbelieved_a parent_n when_o the_o say_v child_n make_v confession_n of_o their_o faith_n for_o baptisine_n creep_v into_o the_o church_n this_o do_v not_o overthrow_v other_o antiquity_n much_o less_o the_o text_n of_o scripture_n that_o the_o doctrine_n of_o imposition_n of_o hand_n that_o be_v that_o impose_v of_o hand_n belong_v to_o believer_n child_n after_o they_o have_v be_v baptize_v but_o three_o to_o answer_v mr_n tomb_n his_o quotation_n of_o tertullian_n about_o this_o de_fw-fr coronâ_fw-la militis_fw-la c._n 3._o by_o the_o leave_n of_o mr_n tomb_n that_o do_v if_o not_o scorn_v so_o score_n with_o the_o nail_n in_o his_o examen_fw-la those_o antiquity_n of_o the_o father_n we_o usual_o allege_v we_o must_v tell_v the_o world_n first_o what_o a_o piece_n and_o place_n of_o tertullian_n mr_n t._n have_v here_o allege_v viz._n such_o a_o one_o as_o wherein_o tertullian_n dispute_v for_o receive_v unwritten_a tradition_n quaeramus_fw-la a_o traditio_fw-la non_fw-la scripta_fw-la debeat_fw-la recipi_fw-la etc._n etc._n say_v he_o let_v we_o inquire_v whether_o unwritten_a tradition_n be_v not_o to_o be_v receive_v we_o shall_v deny_v it_o to_o be_v receive_v if_o it_o be_v not_o prejudge_v or_o fore_o determine_v by_o the_o example_n of_o other_o observation_n which_o without_o the_o instrument_n of_o any_o scripture_n or_o write_v by_o the_o title_n of_o tradition_n only_o we_o from_o thence_o defend_v under_o the_o patronage_n of_o custom_n moreover_o to_o begin_v with_o baptism_n when_o we_o be_v about_o to_o enter_v into_o the_o water_n even_o there_o but_o also_o too_o a_o little_a afore_o in_o the_o church_n under_o the_o hand_n of_o a_o bishop_n or_o prelate_n we_o bear_v witness_v or_o make_v serious_a protestation_n that_o we_o renounce_v the_o devil_n pomp_n and_o his_o angel_n after_o this_o we_o be_v plunge_v or_o drench_v or_o dip_v three_o time_n answer_v something_o more_o than_o the_o lord_n have_v determine_v in_o the_o gospel_n then_o be_v place_n be_v suscepti_fw-la which_o allude_v to_o godfather_n office_n jun._n note_v on_o the_o place_n undertake_v for_o we_o take_v a_o taste_n of_o the_o compound_n of_o milk_n and_o honey_n and_o from_o that_o day_n we_o abstain_v from_o wash_v in_o the_o common_a laver_n or_o place_n of_o wash_v for_o a_o whole_a week_n thus_o far_o mr_n tomb_n his_o place_n of_o tertullian_n now_o let_v the_o reader_n weigh_v all_o the_o circumstance_n of_o the_o place_n and_o judge_v whether_o turtullian_n here_o allude_v to_o any_o scripture_n authority_n or_o to_o any_o approve_a antiquity_n 2._o such_o a_o place_n of_o tertullian_n that_o do_v not_o prove_v the_o thing_n mr_n tomb_n intend_v for_o he_o well_o know_v that_o sub_fw-la manu_fw-la be_v a_o phrase_n that_o have_v so_o many_o sense_n as_o it_o be_v no_o way_n certain_a that_o here_o sub_fw-la manu_fw-la under_o the_o hand_n signify_v imposition_n of_o hand_n haply_o it_o may_v rather_o signify_v the_o minister_n lift_v up_o of_o his_o hand_n in_o prayer_n as_o pacianus_n have_v it_o we_o obtain_v say_v he_o in_o prayer_n pardon_n and_o the_o holy_a spirit_n in_o baptism_n by_o the_o mouth_n and_o hand_n of_o the_o 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constitut_n apostol_n ne_n libri_fw-la isti_fw-la corum_fw-la sunt_fw-la quibus_fw-la tribuuntur_fw-la vulgo_fw-la jo._n voss_n thes_n theol._n &_o hist_n see_v also_o perkins_n prepar_fw-la to_o they_o of_o the_o problem_n a_o author_n of_o credit_n and_o free_a from_o the_o ceremonious_a foolery_n here_o mention_v yet_o the_o baptism_n here_o mentìon_v be_v of_o one_o of_o ripe_a year_n at_o which_o time_n unbeliever_n child_n have_v the_o first_o seal_n to_o who_o this_o imposition_n of_o hand_n be_v apply_v rather_o to_o make_v he_o a_o priest_n as_o we_o conceive_v by_o the_o word_n then_o to_o accompany_v baptism_n the_o second_o be_v of_o the_o same_o hogge-sty_n leo_n the_o first_o and_o rather_o against_o mr_n tomb_n if_o any_o say_v he_o shall_v be_v baptize_v by_o a_o heretic_n he_o be_v not_o to_o iterate_v that_o sacrament_n but_o only_o that_o to_o be_v confer_v which_o be_v want_v that_o by_o episcopal_a imposition_n of_o hand_n he_o may_v obtain_v the_o virtue_n of_o 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be_v without_o and_o not_o of_o the_o faith_n not_o of_o the_o church_n we_o speak_v not_o for_o the_o use_n of_o witness_n or_o godfather_n etc._n etc._n in_o baptise_v child_n as_o the_o wont_a be_v among_o we_o but_o second_o that_o this_o ancient_a custom_n as_o ancient_a at_o least_o as_o tertullian_n may_v possible_o have_v some_o respect_n to_o the_o scripture_n gen._n 17._o according_a to_o mr._n cotton_v observation_n 115._o his_o book_n of_o the_o way_n of_o the_o church_n in_o n._n england_n pag._n 115._o baptism_n say_v he_o may_v orderly_o be_v administer_v to_o the_o child_n of_o such_o parent_n as_o have_v profess_v their_o faith_n and_o repentance_n before_o the_o church_n or_o where_o either_o of_o the_o parent_n have_v make_v such_o profession_n or_o it_o may_v be_v consider_v also_o whether_o the_o child_n may_v not_o be_v baptize_v where_o either_o the_o grandfather_n or_o grandmother_n have_v make_v such_o profession_n and_o be_v still_o live_v to_o undertake_v for_o the_o christian_a education_n of_o the_o child_n for_o it_o may_v be_v conceive_v where_o there_o be_v a_o stipulation_n of_o the_o covenant_n on_o god_n part_n and_o a_o restipulation_n on_o man_n part_n he_o so_o m._n grcenham_n also_o see_v his_o work_n where_o he_o say_v the_o child_n of_o unbelieved_a parent_n be_v within_o the_o covenant_n by_o virtue_n of_o their_o believe_a grandfather_n or_o else_o how_o be_v god_n the_o god_n of_o their_o seed_n to_o show_v mercy_n to_o thousand_o of_o generation_n of_o they_o that_o love_v he_o there_o may_v be_v a_o obligation_n of_o the_o covenant_n on_o both_o part_n gen._n 17.7_o or_o if_o these_o fail_v what_o hinder_v but_o that_o if_o the_o parent_n will_v resign_v their_o infant_n to_o be_v educate_v in_o the_o house_n of_o any_o godly_a member_n of_o the_o church_n the_o child_n may_v be_v lawful_o baptize_v in_o the_o right_n of_o its_o household_n governor_n according_a to_o the_o proportion_n of_o the_o law_n gen._n 17_o 12_o 13._o so_o far_o mr._n cotton_n both_o his_o judgement_n and_o his_o ground_n now_o in_o imitation_n of_o this_o last_o clause_n in_o all_o likelihood_n be_v witness_n use_v though_o abusive_o in_o baptise_v the_o child_n of_o some_o unbeliever_n and_o stranger_n from_o the_o church_n yet_o therefore_o we_o have_v not_o such_o cause_n to_o trample_v upon_o any_o of_o our_o brethren_n about_o their_o error_n in_o baptise_v too_o many_o infant_n see_v they_o err_v with_o some_o antiquity_n and_o some_o pretence_n of_o scripture_n before_o they_o see_v this_o light_n for_o which_o god_n must_v be_v glorify_v and_o not_o man_n pride_v the_o last_o thing_n mr._n t._n object_n in_o this_o argument_n on_o matth._n 28.19_o be_v that_o if_o this_o place_n do_v not_o exclude_v all_o infant_n from_o baptism_n then_o nor_o do_v 1_o cor._n 11.28_o let_v a_o man_n examine_v himself_o and_o so_o let_v he_o eat_v exclude_v infant_n from_o the_o lord_n supper_n say_v by_o the_o like_a elusion_n that_o the_o speech_n of_o the_o apostle_n be_v not_o exclusive_a yea_o very_o say_v mr._n t._n neither_o will_v the_o argument_n be_v of_o force_n from_o the_o institution_n of_o the_o supper_n matth._n 26.26_o 27._o that_o believer_n only_o be_v to_o be_v admit_v to_o the_o lord_n supper_n we_o answer_v and_o first_o to_o that_o comparison_n of_o 1_o cor._n 11.28_o with_o matth._n 28.19_o we_o reply_v two_o thing_n first_o that_o there_o be_v express_v in_o 1_o cor._n 11._o a_o universal_a determinate_a term_n single_v out_o all_o communicant_n man_n by_o man_n that_o they_o must_v be_v able_a to_o examine_v themselves_o before_o they_o eat_v but_o there_o be_v no_o such_o determinate_a word_n about_o baptisine_n in_o matth._n 28.19_o for_o first_o we_o have_v already_o in_o several_a place_n of_o our_o animadversion_n show_v that_o there_o be_v no_o certainty_n at_o all_o that_o the_o greek_a word_n here_o must_v signify_v to-disciple_n or_o make-disciple_n for_o first_o most_o 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and_o further_o answer_v in_o the_o 14_o chap._n of_o our_o animadversion_n at_o the_o word_n cyprian_n in_o the_o margin_n that_o this_o be_v the_o mind_n of_o these_o author_n justin_n martyr_n irenaeus_n and_o tertullian_n in_o this_o age_n next_o after_o the_o apostle_n will_v further_o appear_v by_o the_o consent_n of_o the_o most_o approve_a ancient_n that_o follow_v they_o in_o the_o next_o succeed_a age_n which_o we_o have_v think_v most_o proper_a to_o defer_v to_o the_o next_o chapter_n of_o our_o animadversion_n upon_o mr_n t._n his_o five_o argument_n chap._n xiiii_o the_o five_o argument_n that_o which_o in_o succeed_a age_n in_o which_o it_o be_v in_o use_n it_o exercitat_fw-la argu._n 4._o §_o 17._o the_o argument_n from_o the_o wrong_n original_a of_o infant-baptism_n confirm_v against_o it_o be_v in_o force_n 1_o as_o a_o tradition_n not_o write_v 2_o out_o of_o imitation_n of_o jewish_a circumcision_n 3_o without_o universal_a practice_n 4_o together_o with_o the_o 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his_o fellow-bishop_n in_o the_o council_n of_o which_o mention_n be_v make_v epist_n 59_o ad_fw-la fidum_fw-la second_o out_o of_o imitation_n of_o jewish_a circumcision_n as_o the_o doubt_n of_o fidus_n in_o the_o 59_o epistle_n of_o cyprian_a to_o fidus_n intimate_v though_o there_o be_v also_o other_o reason_n of_o infant-baptisme_n as_o the_o opinion_n of_o the_o necessity_n of_o baptism_n to_o salvation_n and_o the_o greediness_n to_o increase_v the_o number_n of_o christian_n and_o perhaps_o the_o imitation_n of_o heathenish_a lustration_n of_o little_a one_o and_o some_o other_o three_o without_o universal_a practice_n for_o it_o be_v manifest_a that_o constantine_n although_o bear_v of_o helena_n his_o mother_n a_o christian_a be_v not_o baptize_v till_o age_a as_o eusebius_n in_o the_o life_n of_o constantine_n write_v by_o he_o the_o same_o be_v manifest_a from_o the_o book_n of_o confession_n of_o augustine_n concern_v augustine_n himself_o who_o mother_n monica_n be_v a_o 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that_o erasmus_n in_o his_o censure_n of_o the_o homily_n on_o leviticus_n say_v that_o a_o man_n can_v be_v certain_a whether_o he_o read_v ruffinus_n or_o origen_n and_o perkins_n put_v among_o origen_n counterfeit_a work_v his_o commentary_n on_o the_o epistle_n to_o the_o roman_n as_o be_v not_o faithful_o translate_v by_o ruffinus_n 1_o as_o we_o confess_v there_o be_v some_o error_n in_o origen_n and_o in_o who_o not_o so_o there_o be_v many_o learned_a animadver_n animadver_n pious_a and_o most_o spiritual_a thing_n precious_a gospel_n truth_n such_o as_o i_o have_v admire_v when_o i_o read_v they_o consider_v those_o dark_a time_n in_o so_o much_o as_o many_o now_o call_v preacher_n of_o the_o gospel_n may_v go_v to_o origen_n if_o they_o have_v but_o the_o spirit_n of_o discern_a to_o learn_v to_o be_v gospel-preacher_n 2_o if_o mr_n t._n make_v these_o exception_n against_o origen_n why_o i_o say_v why_o do_v mr_n t._n urge_v origen_n for_o himself_o in_o his_o five_o argument_n in_o his_o exercitation_n as_o we_o hear_v afore_o true_o a_o man_n can_v hardly_o with_o patience_n enough_o look_v upon_o mr_n t._n his_o deal_n in_o this_o when_o we_o urge_v three_o place_n out_o of_o origen_n which_o you_o have_v before_o quote_v and_o translate_v and_o former_o urge_v by_o mr_n m._n for_o the_o ancient_a practice_n of_o the_o church_n in_o baptise_v infant_n than_o m._n t._n bespatter_v origen_n as_o you_o hear_v and_o origen_n be_v not_o origen_n with_o he_o but_o if_o mr_n t._n urge_v but_o one_o only_a place_n of_o origen_n to_o blast_v infant-baptisme_n with_o the_o scar_n of_o tradition_n and_o to_o contradict_v all_o approve_a antiquity_n afore_o then_o origen_n must_v be_v receive_v or_o else_o to_o what_o purpose_n do_v m._n t._n allege_v he_o urge_v no_o other_o by_o which_o to_o pretend_v infant-baptism_n to_o be_v a_o tradition_n 3_o master_n t._n have_v nothing_o to_o say_v against_o origen_n on_o luke_n and_o therefore_o he_o intimate_v 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of_o god_n for_o he_o except_v none_o nor_o infant_n nor_o etc._n etc._n baptism_n etc._n so_o basil_n long_v afore_o ann._n 372._o in_o his_o exhortat_fw-la to_o baptism_n to_o ambrose_n mr._n t._n answer_v nothing_o in_o he_o examen_fw-la but_o only_o take_v notice_n that_o mr._n m._n quote_v he_o but_o make_v no_o exception_n against_o he_o all_o these_o ancient_n that_o we_o have_v translate_v be_v before_o the_o rise_n of_o pelagianism_n reusner_n pelagianism_n pelagius_n be_v about_o an._n 104_o helvic_n or_o 413._o el._n reusner_n who_o abettor_n be_v for_o the_o general_a great_a stickler_n against_o the_o baptism_n of_o infant_n and_o before_o they_o the_o arrian_n oppose_v the_o same_o bucholc_n same_o arius_n be_v about_o the_o year_n 315._o helvic_n or_o 319_o el_n reusner_n &_o bucholc_n of_o these_o see_v somewhat_o before_o in_o our_o animadversion_n on_o mr._n t._n his_o 2_o argument_n in_o his_o 15._o sect._n next_o let_v we_o touch_v those_o ancient_n who_o after_o the_o rise_n of_o anabaptisticall-pelagianisme_a or_o peleganian-anabaptisme_a write_v for_o infant-baptisme_n none_o of_o they_o urge_v it_o as_o only_o the_o custom_n of_o the_o church_n other_o of_o they_o argue_v it_o from_o the_o scripture_n and_o therefore_o take_v it_o not_o up_o as_o a_o unwritten_a tradition_n chrysostome_n who_o flourish_v about_o the_o year_n after_o christ_n chrysostome_n chrysostome_n 382._o as_o helvicus_n reckon_v be_v bishop_n of_o constantinople_n about_o 389._o as_o el._n reusner_n compute_v upon_o those_o word_n 1_o tim._n 3._o not_o a_o novice_n that_o be_v a_o new_a tender_a plant_n say_v the_o apostle_n mean_v not_o one_o so_o in_o regard_n of_o age_n for_o many_o such_o of_o the_o gentile_n or_o nation_n come_v to_o the_o church_n and_o be_v baptize_v there_o be_v other_o passage_n in_o chrysostome_n but_o i_o promise_v but_o to_o touch_v these_o last_o author_n hierom_n who_o flourish_v about_o the_o year_n after_o christ_n hieronimus_n hieronimus_n 384._o so_o helvicus_n about_o the_o year_n 392._o write_v his_o catalogue_n of_o famous_a writer_n so_o bucholcerus_n say_v thus_o of_o infant-baptisme_n in_o his_o epistle_n to_o lata_fw-la the_o good_a or_o evil_n of_o a_o child_n be_v much_o to_o be_v impute_v to_o the_o parent_n mean_v education_n unless_o say_v he_o thou_o think_v that_o the_o child_n of_o christian_n in_o case_n they_o have_v not_o receive_v baptism_n be_v only_o guilty_a of_o that_o sin_n and_o that_o the_o sin_n be_v not_o to_o be_v lay_v upon_o they_o that_o will_v not_o give_v it_o they_o especial_o at_o that_o time_n when_o they_o that_o be_v to_o receive_v it_o be_v not_o able_a to_o oppose_v as_o on_o the_o other_o side_n the_o salvation_n of_o infant_n be_v the_o gain_n of_o the_o parent_n or_o ancestor_n so_o likewise_o hierom_n in_o his_o three_o book_n of_o dialogue_n against_o the_o pelagian_o thus._n crito_n tell_v i_o i_o pray_v thou_o and_o so_o deliver_v i_o from_o all_o question_n why_o infant_n may_v be_v baptize_v attic_a that_o their_o sin_n may_v be_v do_v away_o in_o baptism_n crito_n what_o sin_n have_v they_o commit_v be_v any_o man_n loose_v that_o be_v not_o first_o bind_v attic_a do_v ask_v i_o the_o evangelicall_n trumpet_n etc._n etc._n shall_v answer_v thou_o rom._n 5._o death_n reign_v from_o adam_n to_o moses_n even_o upon_o they_o that_o have_v not_o sin_v after_o the_o similitude_n of_o adam_n transgression_n etc._n etc._n he_o that_o be_v a_o little_a one_o be_v loose_v in_o baptism_n from_o the_o bond_n of_o sin_n of_o the_o parent_n etc._n etc._n and_o lest_o thou_o shall_v think_v that_o i_o mean_v this_o in_o a_o heretical_a sense_n the_o bless_a martyr_n cyprian_n in_o his_o epistle_n he_o write_v to_o bishop_n fidus_n concern_v baptise_v infant_n mind_v we_o of_o these_o thing_n and_o there_o hierom_n transcribe_v a_o great_a part_n of_o that_o epistle_n of_o which_o you_o hear_v afore_o and_o then_o add_v eloquent_a augustine_n say_v hierom_n write_v long_o since_o to_o marcellinus_n etc._n etc._n two_o book_n of_o baptise_v infant_n against_o your_o that_o be_v the_o pelagian_a heresy_n by_o which_o you_o will_v assert_v that_o infant-baptisme_n that_o note_v how_o the_o pelagian_o oppose_a infant-baptisme_n infant_n be_v baptize_v not_o into_o remission_n of_o sin_n but_o into_o the_o kingdom_n of_o god_n according_o to_o that_o joh._n 3.5_o except_o a_o man_n be_v bear_v again_o of_o water_n and_o the_o spirit_n be_v can_v enter_v into_o the_o kingdom_n of_o god_n he_o write_v also_o the_o three_o to_o the_o same_o marcellinus_n against_o those_o who_o say_v as_o you_o pelagian_n do_v that_o it_o be_v possible_a for_o a_o man_n to_o be_v void_a of_o sin_n without_o the_o grace_n of_o god_n he_o write_v also_o a_o four_o to_o hilarius_n against_o thy_o doctrine_n pelagius_n also_o he_o be_v say_v to_o have_v write_v other_o book_n in_o special_a to_o thou_o by_o name_n which_o be_v not_o come_v to_o our_o hand_n etc._n etc._n i_o will_v only_o say_v this_o that_o i_o may_v end_v my_o speech_n that_o either_o thou_o pelagius_n must_v make_v a_o new_a form_n that_o after_o you_o have_v baptize_v they_o into_o the_o name_n of_o father_n son_n and_o holy_a ghost_n you_o baptize_v they_o into_o the_o kingdom_n of_o god_n or_o if_o you_o have_v one_o and_o the_o same_o baptism_n in_o little_a one_o and_o man_n than_o infant_n must_v be_v baptize_v into_o remission_n of_o sin_n etc._n etc._n thus_o hierom._n to_o all_o this_o of_o hierom_n in_o this_o last_o quotation_n mr._n t._n answer_v in_o his_o examen_fw-la that_o the_o same_o answer_n will_v serve_v as_o to_o augustine_n well_o therefore_o let_v we_o come_v to_o augustine_n augustine_n flourish_v about_o 391_o after_o christ_n helvic_n august_n helvic_n and_o have_v abundance_n concern_v infant-baptisme_n in_o his_o 28._o epistle_n in_o his_o book_n of_o original_a sin_n chap._n 40._o in_o his_o second_o book_n of_o marriage_n and_o concupiscence_n chap._n 20._o in_o his_o three_o book_n of_o sin_n merit_n and_o remission_n chap._n 7_o 8_o 9_o in_o his_o second_o book_n against_o jul._n ca._n 3._o in_o his_o four_o book_n of_o baptism_n against_o the_o donatist_n chap._n 24_o 458._o 24_o so_o have_v theodoret_n epit_fw-la divin_fw-fr dogmat_fw-la ca._n de_fw-fr baptismo_fw-la he_o flourish_v about_o the_o year_n 422._o and_o so_o gennadius_n de_fw-fr ecclesiast_fw-la dogmat_fw-la c._n 31._o he_o flourish_z about_o the_o year_n 458._o in_o his_o four_o book_n against_o the_o two_o epistle_n of_o pelag._n chap._n 8._o it_o be_v a_o tedious_a business_n to_o translate_v all_o these_o place_n for_o i_o that_o intend_v more_o brevity_n have_v too_o much_o other_o business_n and_o too_o little_a time_n for_o this_o work_n and_o for_o many_o reader_n which_o delight_v no_o more_o in_o read_v these_o than_o i_o in_o quote_v of_o they_o but_o that_o mr._n t._n lead_v i_o to_o they_o therefore_o and_o because_o i_o shall_v translate_v somewhat_o of_o augustine_n by_o and_o by_o i_o will_v only_o note_v particular_o of_o augustine_n these_o two_o thing_n first_o that_o augustine_n in_o that_o place_n of_o his_o 7_o 8_o 9_o chapter_n of_o his_o three_o book_n of_o sin_n merit_n and_o remission_n quote_v almost_o all_o cyprian_n epistle_n to_o fidus._n second_o that_o augustine_n do_v not_o build_v his_o judgement_n only_o upon_o cyprian_a because_o in_o his_o four_o book_n of_o baptism_n against_o the_o donatist_n he_o prove_v infant-baptisme_n by_o many_o argument_n from_o the_o scripture_n now_o all_o these_o especial_o the_o last_o we_o only_o touch_v that_o we_o may_v not_o toil_n ourselves_o and_o the_o reader_n there_o be_v of_o the_o anabaptist_n that_o can_v tell_v whether_o those_o author_n be_v not_o for_o we_o or_o no._n we_o shall_v only_o add_v some_o observation_n upon_o they_o and_o so_o pass_v on_o 1._o that_o these_o five_o last_o author_n chrysost_n hierom_n august_n theod._n genn_n write_v for_o infant-baptisme_n after_o the_o rise_n of_o pelagianisme_n hiss_v pelagianisme_n see_v also_o voss_n thes_n theol._n &_o hiss_v though_o some_o of_o the_o man_n be_v afore_o it_o yet_o those_o thing_n afore_o quote_v be_v write_v after_o it_o 2._o that_o they_o write_v those_o thing_n at_o least_o 300_o year_n afore_o mr._n t._n his_o walafridus_n be_v a_o writer_n to_o tell_v we_o that_o tale_n against_o infant-baptisme_n of_o which_o you_o hear_v afore_o &_o we_o give_v our_o answer_n to_o it_o 3._o that_o these_o do_v argue_v out_o of_o scripture_n and_o no_o otherwise_o determine_v the_o question_n that_o infant_n ought_v to_o be_v baptize_v then_o as_o the_o pious_a learned_a ancient_n have_v hold_v in_o former_a age_n long_o before_o cyprinan_n before_o see_v before_o in_o the_o note_n in_o the_o margin_n on_o cyprinan_n augustine_n shall_v here_o for_o brevity_n sake_n speak_v for_o they_o all_o who_o be_v one_o
most_o ordinance_n as_o to_o preach_v pray_v sacrament_n fast_v thanksgiving_n yet_o we_o leave_v the_o error_n doubt_v not_o of_o the_o institution_n and_o administration_n of_o those_o ordinance_n according_a thereunto_o 5._o mr_n t._n think_v that_o adult-baptisme_n may_v be_v sever_v from_o to_o use_v his_o own_o word_n 13._o word_n exercitat_fw-la §._o 17._o p._n 29._o l._n 13._o the_o pernicious_a error_n and_o mad_a fury_n of_o former_a anabaptist_n therefore_o may_v infant_n baptism_n be_v sever_v from_o some_o error_n that_o have_v accompany_v it_o 6._o if_o the_o error_n accompany_v infant-baptisme_n have_v make_v it_o doubtful_a to_o mr_n t._n so_o have_v the_o pernicious_a error_n and_o mad_a fury_n of_o the_o anabaptist_n in_o former_a age_n which_o mr_n t._n have_v confess_v make_v their_o baptism_n doubtful_a to_o we_o mr_n t._n add_v in_o his_o 17._o 17._o exercitat_fw-la §._o 17._o sect_n of_o his_o exercitation_n towards_o the_o close_a of_o his_o 5._o argument_n that_o of_o old_a 1._o other_o invention_n of_o man_n under_o the_o name_n of_o apostolical_a tradition_n cause_v or_o attend_v infant-baptisme_n rather_o than_o any_o solid_a argument_n from_o scripture_n 2._o a_o wrong_n like_v of_o judaisme_n cause_v or_o attend_v infant-baptisme_n rather_o than_o any_o solid_a argument_n from_o scripture_n 3._o the_o use_v of_o it_o as_o a_o main_a argument_n against_o the_o pelagian_a heresy_n cause_v or_o attend_v infant-baptisme_n rather_o than_o any_o solid_a argument_n from_o scripture_n 4._o the_o mere_a authority_n of_o the_o council_n under_o cyprian_a the_o council_n of_o milevis_n augustine_n and_o jerome_n cause_v or_o attend_v infant-baptisme_n rather_o than_o any_o solid_a argument_n from_o scripture_n to_o the_o 1._o we_o shall_v answer_v in_o mr_n t._n his_o next_o argument_n in_o number_n the_o 6._o which_o be_v touch_v humane_a invention_n 2._o we_o have_v answer_v already_o indiscuss_v of_o the_o aforesaid_a antiquity_n 3._o we_o say_v now_o that_o we_o have_v produce_v sufficient_a proof_n afore_o out_o of_o approve_a antiquity_n that_o the_o tenet_n and_o practice_n of_o infant_n baptism_n be_v common_a in_o the_o church_n since_o the_o apostle_n time_n hundred_o of_o year_n before_o pelagianisme_n be_v know_v in_o the_o world_n see_v before_o all_o our_o 13._o chap._n and_o chap._n 14._o from_o the_o begin_n thereof_o to_o the_o end_n of_o the_o quotation_n of_o ambrose_n p._n 148._o 4._o we_o have_v answer_v afore_o chap._n 14._o last_o mr_n t._n add_v these_o word_n as_o the_o close_a of_o his_o five_o argument_n and_o section_n of_o his_o exercit._n 17._o exercitaâ—_n §._o 17._o so_o in_o this_o last_o age_n say_v he_o some_o modern_a man_n seem_v to_o embrace_v this_o tenet_n of_o infant_n baptism_n out_o of_o horror_n of_o mind_n lest_o they_o shall_v go_v headlong_o into_o the_o pernicious_a error_n of_o former_a anabaptist_n and_o their_o mad_a fury_n or_o 2_o lest_o they_o shall_v seem_v to_o desert_n the_o lead_a man_n of_o the_o reform_a church_n or_o 3_o move_v trouble_n in_o the_o church_n rather_o then_o from_o perspicuous_a foundation_n in_o the_o scripture_n which_o they_o will_v think_v that_o i_o have_v not_o say_v as_o one_o that_o dream_n who_o shall_v read_v what_o robert_n lord_n brooke_n have_v in_o the_o end_n of_o his_o treatise_n concern_v episcopacy_n daniel_n rogers_n in_o his_o treatise_n of_o baptism_n and_o other_o elsewhere_o we_o answer_v to_o the_o 1_o particular_a thus_o that_o the_o modern_a man_n can_v be_v just_o abhor_v animadver_n animadver_n for_o their_o horror_n of_o mind_n lest_o they_o shall_v by_o any_o tenet_n fall_v headlong_o into_o pernicious_a error_n and_o mad_a fury_n and_o if_o mr_n t._n do_v but_o approve_v his_o own_o seven_o argument_n for_o a_o right_a rule_n viz._n that_o which_o have_v occasion_v many_o error_n that_o be_v deserve_o doubtful_a whether_o it_o be_v right_a etc._n etc._n then_o it_o will_v follow_v uncontradict_v by_o mr_n t._n that_o as_o he_o doubt_v of_o infant_n baptism_n because_o of_o error_n that_o have_v follow_v it_o so_o we_o doubt_v of_o adult_n baptism_n according_a to_o the_o tenet_n and_o practice_n of_o the_o anabaptist_n because_o of_o the_o pernicious_a error_n and_o mad_a fury_n that_o have_v follow_v it_o chap._n it_o we_o shall_v give_v instance_n anon_o in_o the_o due_a place_n in_o answer_n to_o mr._n t._n his_o 6_o 7.8.9_o argument_n in_o our_o 13._o chap._n to_o the_o second_o particular_a we_o answer_v thus_o that_o it_o be_v not_o so_o convenient_a sudden_o to_o desert_n the_o lead_a man_n of_o reformation_n then_o in_o their_o debate_n before_o they_o have_v declare_v themselves_o and_o we_o mean_v while_o not_o engage_v necessary_o to_o practice_v against_o our_o conscience_n and_o in_o such_o point_n as_o will_v no_o way_n stand_v in_o the_o line_n of_o any_o concord_n so_o much_o as_o negative_o the_o church_n way_n or_o independency_n as_o they_o nick_v name_v it_o differ_v from_o the_o intend_a presbytery_n as_o we_o guess_v ungain_o in_o point_n of_o appeal_v especial_o in_o the_o manner_n of_o it_o which_o may_v breed_v no_o distraction_n in_o case_n particular_a church_n walk_v so_o wise_o as_o not_o to_o need_v appeal_n as_o some_o discreet_a parish_n do_v in_o the_o worset_n time_n of_o episcopal_a court_n rest_v in_o a_o song_n whereby_o to_o sing_v only_o when_o the_o concord_n will_v bear_v it_o and_o rest_n where_o not_o till_o they_o symphonise_v again_o do_v not_o mar_v but_o grace_v the_o harmony_n but_o whether_o anabaptism_n or_o catapaedobaptisme_n deny_v baptism_n to_o believer_n infant_n wherein_o the_o great_a part_n of_o a_o sad_a distract_a kingdom_n be_v interest_v will_v for_o the_o present_a so_o well_o fag_n i_o leave_v to_o mr_n t._n to_o make_v out_o which_o if_o he_o can_v it_o shall_v not_o be_v a_o sorrow_n to_o i_o we_o be_v unwilling_a indeed_o to_o admit_v those_o beleiver_n to_o the_o communion_n of_o the_o lord_n supper_n that_o will_v not_o some_o how_o intimate_a to_o we_o that_o they_o yield_v to_o a_o relation_n of_o pastor_n and_o flock_n between_o they_o and_o that_o minister_n of_o who_o they_o require_v that_o ordinance_n and_o to_o walk_v with_o we_o submissive_o to_o all_o the_o ordinance_n of_o christ_n till_o god_n provide_v better_o for_o they_o that_o we_o may_v know_v how_o they_o live_v as_o well_o as_o when_o they_o receive_v and_o be_v willing_a also_o to_o receive_v christian_a admonition_n where_o they_o live_v amiss_o but_o for_o baptise_v of_o beleiver_n infant_n several_a church_n of_o we_o do_v hold_v that_o we_o may_v baptise_v they_o though_o neither_o of_o those_o parent_n be_v of_o our_o particular_a church_n baptism_n as_o we_o conceive_v be_v but_o a_o admission_n into_o the_o universal_a visible_a church_n as_o those_o baptise_a matthew_n the_o 3._o the_o centurion_n act._n 10._o the_o gaoler_n act._n 16_o be_v baptise_a neither_o in_o a_o particular_a christian_a church_n nor_o into_o such_o a_o particular_a church_n to_o the_o three_o particular_a we_o answer_v that_o it_o can_v but_o be_v a_o considerable_a thing_n to_o godly_a and_o wise_a man_n how_o they_o move_v trouble_n in_o the_o church_n and_o therefore_o in_o capitulate_v as_o i_o may_v say_v with_o point_n of_o argument_n for_o reformation_n they_o think_v it_o not_o seasonable_a to_o indeavoure_n for_o the_o inward_a hold_n till_o they_o can_v take_v the_o outwork_n reformation_n from_o adam_n fall_n to_o the_o high_a pitch_n in_o the_o old_a testament_n come_v on_o by_o degree_n so_o from_o john_n baptist_n time_n to_o the_o end_n of_o the_o apostle_n in_o the_o new_a testament_n and_o so_o in_o every_o kingdom_n since_o from_o the_o first_o sit_v down_o of_o religion_n there_o to_o its_o growth_n or_o from_o the_o lapse_n thereof_o to_o its_o restitution_n we_o can_v come_v to_o the_o end_n but_o by_o mean_n and_o it_o can_v but_o be_v dangerous_a in_o a_o unwieldy_a kingdom_n to_o jump_v from_o the_o lesser_a to_o the_o great_a thing_n of_o that_o we_o count_v reformation_n at_o one_o leap_n for_o my_o part_n i_o shall_v desire_v rather_o to_o suspend_v my_o own_o interest_n then_o to_o be_v a_o coadjutor_n to_o further_a a_o general_a dangerous_a distraction_n for_o that_o clause_n that_o infant-baptisme_n have_v be_v hold_v rather_o upon_o the_o say_v three_o particular_n then_o upon_o any_o perspicuous_a ground_n of_o scripture_n we_o anser_fw-la we_o have_v hold_v it_o upon_o sufficient_a ground_n of_o scripture_n if_o our_o animadversion_n may_v be_v count_v worthy_a to_o be_v one_o witness_n but_o if_o mr_n t._n mean_v by_o perspicuous_a any_o thing_n more_o than_o sufficient_a we_o answer_v we_o conceive_v we_o have_v as_o perspicuous_a scripture_n for_o infant-baptisme_n as_o mr_n t._n have_v for_o the_o lord_n day_n and_o for_o woman_n partake_v of_o the_o lord_n supper_n to_o master_n
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surety_n that_o perform_v not_o that_o they_o promise_v then_o in_o thing_n itself_o to_o m._n t._n his_o second_o particular_a thence_o exercitat_fw-la exercitat_fw-la of_o episcopal_a confirmation_n we_o answer_v animad_fw-la animad_fw-la that_o we_o have_v already_o declare_v much_o of_o the_o patriarch_n imposition_n of_o hand_n of_o christ_n imposition_n of_o hand_n of_o the_o apostle_n imposition_n of_o hand_n of_o church_n imposition_n of_o hand_n since_o the_o apostle_n upon_o little_a one_o and_o usual_o after_o the_o first_o seal_n so_o that_o there_o be_v not_o so_o much_o human-invention_n in_o imposition_n of_o hand_n on_o baptize_v person_n as_o there_o be_v arrogancy_n in_o the_o bishop_n to_o assume_v this_o peculiarly_a to_o themselves_o to_o m._n t._n his_o three_o particular_a there_o that_o the_o reform_a union_n exercitat_fw-la exercitat_fw-la by_o examination_n confession_n and_o subscription_n of_o the_o receive_a doctrine_n
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of_o israel_n so_o that_o to_o subscribe_v to_o the_o truth_n of_o god_n profess_v in_o a_o church_n to_o be_v call_v a_o member_n of_o the_o same_o be_v no_o such_o scripturelesse_a human_a invention_n as_o m._n t._n will_v make_v of_o it_o to_o m._n t._n his_o fourth-particular_a that_o the_o church_n covenant_n exercitat_fw-la exercitat_fw-la yea_o as_o set_v forth_o in_o the_o book_n of_o the_o church_n of_o new_a england_n call_v church_n covenant_n be_v a_o human-invention_n devise_v to_o supply_v the_o place_n of_o baptism_n we_o answer_v we_o will_v not_o say_v that_o this_o be_v cynical_o but_o we_o will_v say_v it_o be_v bold_o speak_v by_o one_o man_n animad_fw-la animad_fw-la so_o to_o censure_v so_o many_o brave_a man_n for_o learning_n godliness_n conscience_n and_o suffering_n for_o 1_o we_o quaere_fw-la whether_o m._n t._n do_v think_v the_o late_a nationall_n covenant_n to_o be_v a_o mere_a human-invention_n if_o not_o let_v he_o be_v moderate_a in_o his_o opinion_n of_o church_n covenant_n 2_o we_o assert_v that_o whatsoever_o ingenuous_a and_o understand_a reader_n shall_v peruse_v the_o book_n call_v the_o church_n covenant_n will_v find_v it_o strong_a for_o a_o church_n covenant_n then_o m._n t._n his_o treatise_n for_o the_o anabaptist_n way_n of_o baptise_v 3_o we_o put_v m._n t._n in_o mind_n that_o all_o relation_n except_o natural_a be_v found_v upon_o mutual_a covenant_n and_o agreement_n as_o between_o husband_n and_o wife_n master_n and_o servant_n amp_n c._n therefore_o that_o between_o pastor_n and_o flock_n 4_o that_o baptism_n exhibit_v one_o to_o be_v a_o member_n of_o the_o universal_a visible_a church_n now_o on_o earth_n do_v not_o make_v he_o to_o belong_v peculiar_o to_o my_o flock_n discipline_n flock_n see_v before_o in_o the_o former_a chapter_n touch_v fault_n in_o discipline_n that_o be_v bind_v in_o scripture_n duty_n to_o i_o or_o i_o to_o be_v a_o pastor_n and_o bind_v in_o conscience_n of_o pastoral_n duty_n to_o he_o 5_o in_o that_o see_v some_o particular_a express_a intimation_n there_o must_v be_v see_v we_o have_v not_o the_o intellectual_a communication_n of_o angel_n that_o he_o or_o she_o be_v of_o my_o flock_n and_o i_o their_o pastor_n what_o can_v m._n t._n find_v out_o to_o effect_v this_o if_o he_o lie_v aside_o all_o covenantall_n expression_n 6_o if_o the_o church_n covenant_n be_v compose_v by_o man_n as_o those_o of_o marriage_n servantship_n etc._n etc._n be_v yet_o all_o divine_a duty_n may_v follow_v upon_o this_o as_o upon_o they_o by_o divine_a imposition_n chap._n xvii_o to_o the_o 1_o and_o 2_o particular_n in_o the_o minor_a of_o m._n t._n his_o seven_o argument_n of_o error_n occasion_v by_o infant_n baptism_n 20._o exercit._fw-la §_o 20._o as_o that_o baptism_n confer_v grace_n by_o the_o work_n do_v that_o baptism_n be_v regeneration_n we_o answer_v animad_fw-la animad_fw-la 1_o m.t._n in_o all_o his_o allegation_n of_o antiquity_n or_o other_o that_o be_v orthodox_n in_o the_o main_n have_v not_o to_o our_o knowledge_n produce_v any_o such_o expression_n as_o that_o popish_a one_o that_o baptism_n confer_v grace_n by_o the_o work_n do_v 2_o that_o we_o have_v produce_v place_n of_o best_a antiquity_n that_o express_o tell_v we_o that_o their_o meaning_n be_v that_o we_o shall_v not_o in_o deny_v baptism_n to_o infant_n as_o much_o as_o in_o we_o lie_v hinder_v their_o salvation_n cyprian_a salvation_n see_v before_o out_o of_o cyprian_a three_o that_o ancient_n do_v call_v baptism_n regeneration_n be_v no_o more_o than_o to_o speak_v scripture_n phrase_n point_n phrase_n which_o place_n the_o ancient_n oft_o quote_v in_o that_o point_n john_n 3.5_o titus_n 3.5_o four_o that_o the_o ancient_n do_v not_o think_v baptism_n do_v profit_n all_o baptize_v person_n donatistas_n person_n lib._n 4._o contra_fw-la donatistas_n augustine_n say_v what_o profit_v the_o sacrament_n to_o they_o that_o receive_v it_o unless_o they_o be_v inward_o change_v and_o blame_v some_o in_o his_o time_n say_v what_o profit_v the_o sacrament_n to_o they_o that_o receive_v it_o unless_o they_o be_v inward_o change_v and_o blame_v some_o in_o his_o time_n say_v spem_fw-la baptiz_n andorum_fw-la auferunt_fw-la à _fw-la domino_fw-la deo_fw-la &_o in_o homine_fw-la ponendam_fw-la esse_fw-la persuadent_fw-la that_o be_v they_o take_v off_o the_o baptize_v from_o their_o hope_n in_o god_n and_o persuade_v they_o to_o place_v it_o in_o man_n to_o m.t._n his_o three_o particular_a thence_o exercit._n exercit._n that_o infant_n die_v be_v save_v by_o the_o faith_n of_o their_o parent_n we_o reply_v animad_fw-la animad_fw-la 1_o how_o do_v this_o agree_v with_o the_o former_a assertion_n that_o we_o hold_v baptism_n confer_v grace_n exâ—pere_fw-fr â—perato_fw-mi by_o the_o work_n do_v 2_o where_o in_o approve_a antiquity_n or_o late_a protestant_a writer_n be_v any_o such_o expression_n we_o say_v upon_o very_o good_a scripture_n urge_v afore_o that_o a_o child_n of_o a_o believe_a parent_n be_v to_o be_v reckon_v within_o the_o covenant_n by_o virtue_n of_o that_o parent_n faith_n but_o to_o pronounce_v he_o to_o be_v save_v thereby_o be_v a_o doctrine_n unknown_a to_o we_o for_o those_o expression_n of_o m.t._n annex_v to_o his_o three_o particular_a put_v upon_o we_o as_o that_o infant_n be_v save_v by_o the_o faith_n of_o surety_n of_o the_o church_n receive_v into_o her_o lap_n we_o desire_v they_o may_v be_v carry_v back_o to_o rome_n whence_o they_o be_v bring_v the_o dispute_n now_o be_v not_o between_o papist_n and_o protestant_n to_o m_o t._n his_o four_o particular_a in_o that_o argument_n exercitat_fw-la exercitat_fw-la that_o some_o regenerate_a person_n may_v fall_v from_o grace_n we_o answer_v animad_fw-la animad_fw-la that_o neither_o be_v the_o dispute_n between_o prelaticall-erring-time-serving-vassal_n and_o we_o have_v therefore_o these_o thing_n away_o to_o the_o prelatical_a arminian_o and_o their_o state-serving-complyants_a chap._n xviii_o to_o m.t._n his_o first_o particular_a of_o his_o minor_a in_o his_o eight_o argument_n exercitat_fw-la exercitat_fw-la that_o infant-baptisme_n have_v occasion_v private_a baptism_n we_o answer_v animad_fw-la animad_fw-la if_o m.t._n mean_v private_a in_o regard_n of_o place_n for_o we_o never_o know_v of_o difference_n of_o form_n as_o that_o which_o be_v do_v in_o a_o dwell_a house_n we_o demand_v what_o danger_n or_o derogation_n be_v there_o in_o that_o more_o than_o in_o that_o which_o be_v common_o call_v a_o church_n or_o 2_o that_o baptism_n which_o be_v not_o do_v in_o a_o river_n we_o demand_v whether_o baptism_n in_o a_o dwell_a house_n or_o in_o a_o meeting_n place_n in_o the_o company_n of_o 40_o or_o 50_o be_v not_o as_o public_a as_o when_o two_o or_o three_o steal_n to_o a_o river_n side_n in_o some_o uncouth_a and_o unfrequented_a place_n yea_o and_o as_o well_o do_v in_o the_o say_a house_n as_o there_o as_o to_o the_o question_n now_o in_o hand_n of_o private_a or_o not_o private_a to_o m.t._n his_o second_o particular_a of_o baptism_n by_o woman_n exercitat_fw-la exercitat_fw-la occasion_v by_o infant_n baptism_n we_o answer_v animad_fw-la animad_fw-la 1_o we_o know_v no_o such_o thing_n to_o have_v be_v allow_v in_o the_o protestant_a church_n since_o luther_n time_n 2_o for_o ancient_a time_n before_o the_o invasion_n of_o gross_a popery_n into_o the_o world_n bin._n bin._n the_o four_o council_n of_o carthage_n ca._n 10._o command_n mulier_fw-la baptizare_fw-la non_fw-la prâ—sumat_fw-la that_o be_v let_v not_o woman_n presume_v to_o baptize_v so_o that_o if_o a_o overforward_a midwife_n or_o matron_n presume_v to_o baptize_v upon_o the_o example_n of_o that_o bold_a woman_n zippora_fw-la circumcise_n her_o son_n she_o have_v by_o moses_n yet_o this_o be_v not_o allow_v by_o the_o orthodox_n church_n to_o the_o three_o particular_a exercitat_fw-la exercitat_fw-la of_o baptise_v child_n before_o they_o be_v bring_v into_o light_n we_o answer_v animad_fw-la animad_fw-la we_o
can_v see_v what_o m._n t._n mean_n in_o that_o darkness_n if_o he_o mean_v baptise_v of_o the_o mother_n have_v the_o child_n in_o her_o womb_n we_o have_v show_v afore_o that_o council_n have_v enact_v against_o it_o or_o what_o ever_o m._n t._n mean_n we_o know_v no_o allowance_n give_v to_o it_o by_o orthodox_n church_n to_o his_o four_o particular_a of_o baptise_v infant_n of_o uncertain_a progeny_n exercitat_fw-la exercitat_fw-la we_o answer_v animad_fw-la animad_fw-la that_o this_o can_v follow_v upon_o our_o tenet_n of_o baptise_v believer_n infant_n if_o other_o practice_n extend_v further_o it_o be_v the_o darkness_n and_o corruption_n of_o the_o time_n without_o our_o line_n and_o the_o line_n of_o scripture_n to_o his_o five_o particular_a exercitat_fw-la exercitat_fw-la that_o they_o be_v baptize_v in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o lord_n who_o know_v not_o the_o lord_n nor_o ever_o perhaps_o will_v consent_v to_o the_o confession_n of_o his_o name_n we_o answer_v animad_fw-la animad_fw-la suppose_v that_o m._n tomb_n mean_v save_v knowledge_n or_o else_o he_o speak_v to_o little_a puepose_n 1_o the_o same_o inconvenience_n may_v abraham_n have_v object_v against_o circumcision_n of_o little_a one_o at_o eight_o day_n old_a but_o he_o do_v not_o yea_o he_o circumcise_a ishmael_n though_o the_o lord_n tell_v he_o the_o blessing_n shall_v be_v upon_o isaak_n gen._n 17._o second_o the_o same_o objection_n we_o can_v just_o make_v against_o the_o anabaptist_n baptism_n by_o too_o much_o experience_n and_o testimony_n too_o from_o some_o of_o their_o writing_n wherein_o as_o we_o have_v before_o quote_v that_o upon_o confession_n of_o sin_n or_o profession_n of_o the_o faith_n of_o the_o anabaptist_n beast_n anabaptist_n see_v before_o epiphan_n and_o the_o book_n call_v the_o mark_n or_o character_n of_o the_o beast_n such_o be_v to_o be_v baptize_v though_o thing_n otherwise_o be_v much_o want_v or_o amiss_o three_o if_o infant_n may_v have_v save_v grace_n as_o john_n baptist_n have_v and_o those_o mark_v 10._o and_o m._n t._n before_o confess_v they_o may_v and_o the_o mere_a act_n of_o the_o reasonable_a soul_n do_v not_o depend_v upon_o the_o organ_n of_o the_o body_n much_o less_o do_v grace_n depend_v on_o they_o and_o the_o grace_n of_o god_n may_v act_v as_o convenient_o in_o a_o well_o wake_v child_n as_o in_o a_o man_n a_o sleep_n or_o in_o a_o swoon_n than_o we_o can_v bold_o say_v with_o m._n t._n that_o all_o infant_n that_o be_v baptize_v know_v not_o the_o lord_n or_o do_v not_o consent_v to_o the_o lord_n what_o they_o will_v prove_v after_o the_o promise_n of_o god_n i_o be_o the_o god_n of_o thou_o and_o they_o seed_n be_v as_o sure_a a_o evidence_n as_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o anabaptist_n touch_v they_o they_o baptiâ—e_v to_o the_o six_o particular_a exercitat_fw-la exercitat_fw-la that_o infant_n baptism_n have_v admit_v into_o the_o communion_n of_o the_o church_n and_o to_o the_o lord_n supper_n many_o ignorant_a and_o profane_a for_o who_o say_v m._n t._n can_v deny_v right_o the_o right_a of_o the_o church_n to_o the_o baptize_v we_o answer_v to_o that_o that_o of_o admission_n of_o they_o to_o the_o lord_n supper_n because_o baptize_v animad_fw-la animad_fw-la be_v a_o mere_a scripturelesse_a and_o a_o alogâ—call_n irrational_a non_fw-la sâ—quitur_fw-la the_o scripture_n that_o bid_v give_v a_o child_n of_o eight_o day_n the_o first_o seal_n and_o do_v tell_v we_o christ_n lay_v his_o hand_n on_o little_a one_o and_o no_o where_o forbid_v to_o baptize_v believer_n infant_n do_v tell_v we_o christ_n give_v the_o communion_n only_o to_o person_n of_o ripe_a year_n and_o forbid_v we_o to_o give_v it_o but_o to_o they_o that_o due_o examine_v themselves_o it_o be_v unreasonable_a to_o infer_v that_o if_o one_o have_v commit_v a_o fault_n in_o not_o right_a use_v the_o first_o sacrament_n prove_v ignorant_a or_o profane_a that_o he_o shall_v be_v admit_v to_o the_o second_o till_o he_o amend_v yea_o if_o m._n t._n hold_v excommunication_n out_o and_o baptism_n a_o admission_n into_o particular_a church_n communion_n how_o i_o leave_v he_o to_o make_v out_o if_o i_o say_v he_o hold_v these_o than_o i_o suppose_v if_o he_o be_v in_o a_o particular_a church_n he_o will_v give_v his_o vote_n to_o excommunicate_v one_o that_o walk_v profane_o after_o baptism_n then_o by_o the_o same_o proportion_n we_o may_v keep_v back_o from_o the_o communion_n one_o baptize_v in_o infancy_n and_o after_o prove_v profane_a and_o by_o a_o better_a pretence_n see_v by_o baptism_n we_o do_v not_o admit_v he_o into_o a_o particular_a church_n where_o peculiar_o be_v administer_v the_o communion_n of_o the_o lord_n supper_n to_o m._n t._n his_o seven_o particular_a in_o the_o minor_a of_o his_o eight_o argument_n exercitat_fw-la exercitat_fw-la that_o infant-baptisme_n do_v prevent_v the_o order_n of_o discipline_n that_o first_o a_o man_n be_v baptize_v and_o after_o be_v among_o the_o catechise_v we_o answer_v animad_fw-la animad_fw-la 1_o that_o god_n command_v abraham_n to_o give_v the_o first_o sign_n or_o seal_n to_o all_o his_o male_a family_n gen._n 17._o after_o gen._n 18.19_o it_o be_v say_v he_o will_v instruct_v his_o child_n 2_o instruction_n may_v follow_v receive_v the_o lord_n supper_n else_o farewell_n preach_v therefore_o it_o may_v follow_v baptism_n 3_o we_o have_v show_v plentiful_o out_o of_o good_a antiquity_n and_o famous_a modern_a author_n upon_o heb._n 6.2_o that_o the_o doctrine_n on_o catechizing_n of_o baptism_n belong_v to_o unbeliever_n child_n before_o baptism_n and_o the_o doctrine_n of_o imposition_n of_o hand_n belong_v to_o believer_n infant_n after_o baptism_n 4_o that_o to_o acknowledge_v one_o a_o member_n of_o a_o particular_a church_n by_o a_o general_a confession_n and_o the_o common_a act_n of_o baptism_n be_v a_o great_a overthrow_n to_o discipline_n by_o leave_v this_o man_n in_o that_o condition_n that_o you_o can_v call_v he_o to_o a_o account_n nor_o be_v he_o engage_v to_o come_v at_o your_o call_n to_o give_v you_o a_o account_n however_o he_o walk_v exercitat_fw-la exercitat_fw-la to_o m._n t._n his_o 8_o 9_o 10_o particular_n that_o the_o sacrament_n of_o baptism_n be_v turn_v into_o a_o mere_a ceremony_n yea_o profane_a meeting_n and_o feast_v by_o infant_n baptism_n man_n forget_v baptism_n as_o if_o never_o administer_v it_o take_v away_o zeal_n or_o at_o least_o diminish_v it_o animad_fw-la animad_fw-la i_o say_v to_o these_o that_o i_o be_v as_o good_a give_v no_o answer_n to_o these_o empty_a thing_n as_o to_o give_v such_o a_o answer_n as_o be_v most_o suitable_a for_o then_o that_o answer_n must_v be_v as_o trivial_a as_o the_o argument_n m._n tomb_n can_v answer_v himself_o that_o the_o same_o thing_n may_v be_v object_v against_o the_o institution_n of_o circumcision_n that_o there_o be_v a_o feast_n at_o the_o wean_n of_o isaac_n yet_o no_o prophanesse_n and_o the_o feast_n of_o charity_n accompany_v the_o lord_n supper_n a_o good_a while_n ere_o it_o degenerate_v that_o we_o can_v well_o enough_o mind_n at_o ripe_a year_n what_o be_v bequeath_v by_o testament_n to_o we_o in_o our_o nonage_n that_o a_o seal_a covenant_n precede_v when_o it_o come_v into_o consideration_n by_o due_a education_n can_v cool_v our_o zeal_n towards_o a_o natural_a worship_n to_o own_o god_n chap._n xix_o exercitat_fw-la exercitat_fw-la to_o m.t._n his_o 1_o 2_o and_o four_o particular_n of_o the_o minor_a of_o his_o nine_o argument_n that_o infant_n baptism_n have_v occasion_v the_o needless_a dispute_n about_o the_o baptism_n of_o excommunicates-infant_n about_o the_o baptism_n of_o apostates-infant_n about_o the_o baptism_n of_o next-unbelieving_a parent_n infant_n the_o grand_a parent_n about_o the_o baptism_n of_o be_v believer_n animad_fw-la animad_fw-la we_o answer_v that_o in_o our_o church_n there_o be_v no_o such_o dispute_n about_o these_o thing_n we_o can_v easy_o by_o the_o tenor_n of_o the_o scripture_n resolve_v on_o the_o negative_a that_o the_o child_n be_v not_o to_o be_v baptize_v while_o the_o next_o parent_n be_v such_o as_o m._n t._n have_v mention_v exercitat_fw-la exercitat_fw-la to_o the_o three_o particular_a that_o infant_n baptism_n have_v occasion_v a_o unnecessary_a dispute_n about_o the_o baptise_v of_o the_o infant_n of_o believe_a parent_n that_o be_v not_o member_n of_o gather_a church_n animad_fw-la animad_fw-la we_o answer_v i_o never_o perceive_v the_o world_n trouble_v with_o this_o dispute_n divers_a church_n without_o dispute_n can_v practise_v the_o baptise_v of_o such_o and_o other_o church_n without_o dispute_n practice_n it_o not_o and_o so_o as_o much_o as_o in_o they_o be_v be_v keep_v back_o the_o more_o infant_n to_o be_v baptize_v at_o ripe_a year_n according_a to_o m._n t._n his_o define_v who_o have_v move_v more_o dispute_n than_o any_o twenty_o of_o our_o church_n former_o have_v make_v