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A53737 A vindication of the Animadversions on Fiat lux wherein the principles of the Roman church, as to moderation, unity and truth are examined and sundry important controversies concerning the rule of faith, papal supremacy, the mass, images, &c. discussed / by John Owen. Owen, John, 1616-1683. 1664 (1664) Wing O822; ESTC R17597 313,141 517

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in_o his_o sleep_n see_v the_o angel_n of_o god_n ascend_v and_o descend_v by_o the_o ladder_n set_v up_o the_o stone_n on_o which_o his_o head_n lie_v for_o a_o pillar_n gen._n 28._o and_o again_o he_o worship_v on_o the_o top_n of_o his_o staff_n gen._n 29._o moses_n make_v the_o brazen_a serpent_n and_o the_o cherubim_n esaiah_n say_v in_o those_o day_n there_o shall_v be_v a_o altar_n unto_o the_o lord_n and_o it_o shall_v be_v for_o a_o sign_n and_o a_o testimony_n chap._n 19_o david_n the_o psalmist_n say_v confession_n and_o beauty_n be_v before_o he_o and_o again_o lord_n i_o have_v love_v the_o beauty_n of_o thy_o house_n and_o again_o thy_o face_n lord_n will_v i_o seek_v psal._n 26_o and_o again_o the_o rich_a among_o the_o people_n shall_v bow_v themselves_o before_o thy_o face_n psal._n 44._o
ancient_a church-fathers_n and_o council_n impose_v rite_n unnecessary_a persecution_n for_o conscience_n papal_a supremacy_n the_o branch_n of_o it_o papal_z personal_a infallibility_n religious_a veneration_n of_o image_n p._n 48_o chap._n 5._o the_o principle_n of_o fiat_n lux_fw-la re-examined_a thing_n not_o at_o quiet_a in_o religion_n before_o reformation_n of_o the_o first_o reformer_n departure_n from_o rome_n no_o cause_n of_o division_n returnal_a unto_o rome_n no_o mean_n of_o union_n p._n 89_o chap._n 6._o further_a vindication_n of_o the_o second_o chapter_n of_o the_o animadversion_n scripture_n sufficient_a to_o settle_v man_n in_o the_o truth_n instance_n against_o it_o examine_v remove_v principle_n of_o protestant_n and_o romanist_n in_o reference_n unto_o moderation_n compare_v and_o discuss_v p._n 99_o chap._n 7._o unity_n of_o faith_n wherein_o consist_v principle_n of_o protestant_n as_o to_o the_o settle_v man_n in_o religion_n and_o unity_n of_o faith_n propose_v and_o conf●rmed_v p._n 121_o chap._n 8._o principle_n of_o papist_n whereon_o they_o proceed_v in_o bring_v man_n to_o a_o setlement_n in_o religion_n and_o the_o unity_n of_o faith_n examine_v p._n 161_o chap._n 9_o proposal_n from_o protestant_a principle_n tend_v unto_o moderation_n and_o unity_n p._n 204_o chap._n 10._o further_a vindication_n of_o the_o second_o chapter_n of_o the_o animadversion_n the_o remain_a principle_n of_o fiat_n lux_fw-la consider_v p._n 301_o chap._n 11._o judicious_a reader_n schoolman_n the_o forger_n of_o popery_n 〈…〉_z discourse_n in_o fiat_n lux._fw-la p._n 308_o chap._n 12._o false_a supposition_n cause_v false_a and_o absurd_a consequence_n whence_o we_o have_v the_o gospel_n in_o england_n and_o by_o who_o mean_n what_o be_v our_o duty_n in_o reference_n unto_o they_o by_o who_o we_o receive_v the_o gospel_n p._n 315_o chap._n 13._o faith_n and_o charity_n of_o the_o roman_a catholic_n p._n 351_o chap._n 14._o of_o reason_n jew_n objection_n against_o christ._n p._n 362_o chap._n 15._o plea_n of_o prelate_n protestant_n christ_n the_o only_a supreme_a and_o absolute_a head_n of_o the_o church_n p._n 370_o chap._n 16._o the_o power_n assign_v by_o papist_n and_o protestant_n unto_o king_n in_o matter_n ecclesiastical_a their_o several_a principle_n discuss_v and_o compare_v p._n 398_o chap._n 17._o scripture_n story_n of_o the_o progress_n and_o declension_n of_o religion_n vindicate_v papal_z artifices_fw-la for_o the_o promotion_n of_o their_o power_n and_o interest_n advantage_n make_v by_o they_o on_o the_o western_a empire_n p._n 423_o chap._n 18._o reformation_n of_o religion_n papal_a contradiction_n ejice_fw-la ancillam_fw-la p._n 447_o chap._n 19_o of_o preach_v the_o mass_n and_o the_o sacrifice_n of_o it_o transubstantiation_n service_n of_o the_o church_n p._n 452_o chap._n 20._o of_o the_o bless_a virgin_n p._n 47●_n chap._n 21._o image_n doctrine_n of_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n o●_n the_o 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end_n do_v so_o absolute_o moralize_v a_o action_n that_o it_o of_o its_o self_n shall_v render_v it_o good_a or_o evil_n evil_a it_o may_v but_o good_a of_o its_o self_n it_o can_v for_o bonum_fw-la oritur_fw-la ex_fw-la integris_fw-la causis_fw-la malum_fw-la ex_fw-la quolibet_fw-la defectu_fw-la rectify_v the_o intention_n will_v not_o secure_v your_o morality_n and_o yet_o also_o on_o second_o thought_n that_o i_o see_v not_o much_o difference_n between_o the_o end_n that_o celsus_n propose_v unto_o himself_o upon_o his_o general_a principle_n and_o those_o that_o you_o propose_v to_o yourself_o upon_o your_o own_o as_o well_o as_o the_o way_n whereby_o you_o proceed_v be_v the_o same_o but_o yet_o upon_o the_o account_n before_o mention_v i_o shall_v free_v you_o from_o your_o fear_n of_o be_v think_v like_o he_o 3._o when_o protestant_n preach_v against_o our_o division_n they_o charge_v they_o upon_o the_o person_n of_o they_o that_o be_v guilty_a whereas_o you_o do_v it_o on_o 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chap._n 4._o §_o 17._o p._n 237._o §_o 18._o p._n 242_o 243._o §_o 20._o p._n 255._o and_o in_o sundry_a other_o place_n you_o add_v do_v he_o charge_v protestant_n that_o by_o their_o schism_n and_o sedition_n they_o make_v way_n for_o other_o revolt_n he_o do_v so_o and_o that_o frequent_o chap._n 3._o §_o 14._o p._n 187_o etc._n etc._n do_v he_o you_o add_v gather_v a_o rhapsody_n of_o insignificant_a word_n as_o do_v celsus_n i_o say_v he_o do_v in_o the_o pretend_a plea_n that_o he_o insist_o on_o for_o quaker_n and_o for_o presbyterian_o also_o chap._n 3._o §_o 13._o p._n 172_o 173_o etc._n etc._n again_o do_v he_o manage_v the_o argument_n of_o the_o jew_n against_o christianity_n as_o be_v do_v by_o celsus_n he_o do_v direct_o express_o and_o at_o large_a chap._n 3._o §_o 12._o p._n 158._o etc._n etc._n i_o confess_v because_o it_o may_v be_v you_o know_v it_o not_o you_o may_v have_v question_v the_o truth_n of_o my_o parallel_n on_o the_o side_n that_o concern_v celsus_n 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