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A33770 Theophilus and Philodoxus, or, Several conferences between two friends the one a true son of the Church of England, the other faln off to the Church of Rome, concerning 1. praier in an unknown tongue, 2. the half communion, 3. the worshipping of images, 4. the invocation of saints / by Gilbert Coles. Coles, Gilbert, 1617-1676. 1674 (1674) Wing C5085; ESTC R27900 233,018 224

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c._n 28._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d etc._n etc._n again_o elsewhere_o he_o put_v the_o quest_n what_o be_v proper_a for_o a_o christian_a and_o he_o give_v the_o answer_n to_o cleanse_v himself_o from_o all_o filthiness_n of_o flesh_n and_o spirit_n and_o perfect_a holiness_n in_o the_o fear_n of_o the_o lord_n and_o so_o to_o eat_v the_o body_n of_o christ_n and_o drink_v his_o blood_n etc._n blood_n oratione_fw-la 42._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d etc._n etc._n greg._n nazianzen_n give_v advice_n without_o doubt_v eat_v the_o body_n and_o drink_v the_o blood_n if_o thou_o desire_v life_n etc._n life_n homil._n 18._o in_o 2._o ad_fw-la cornith_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d etc._n etc._n chrysostom_n have_v a_o memorable_a passage_n to_o our_o purpose_n i_o can_v show_v you_o say_v he_o where_o the_o priest_n differ_v not_o from_o the_o people_n when_o we_o enjoy_v the_o dreadful_a mystery_n for_o we_o be_v all_o alike_o vouchsafe_v they_o one_o body_n and_o one_o cup_n 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chrysostom_n hom._n 23._o in_o i_o ad_fw-la cor._n 〈◊〉_d
as_o be_v inducement_n of_o error_n and_o with_o the_o danger_n of_o idolatry_n and_o heresy_n of_o attribute_v unto_o god_n corporeity_n and_o a_o essential_a distinction_n of_o person_n in_o the_o godhead_n and_o although_o say_v he_o the_o church_n have_v receive_v such_o image_n or_o dissemble_v they_o yet_o they_o do_v not_o signify_v aright_o and_o suitable_o hereunto_o we_o read_v how_o pope_n john_n the_o 22_o d._n declare_v some_o for_o heretic_n and_o anthropomorphites_n and_o burn_v other_o in_o the_o confine_n of_o bohemia_n and_o austria_n because_o they_o make_v use_v of_o such_o table_n to_o represent_v the_o holy_a trinity_n under_o the_o picture_n of_o a_o old_a man_n a_o youth_n and_o a_o dove_n and_o now_o i_o will_v bring_v the_o approve_a testimony_n of_o the_o ancient_n against_o represent_v god_n by_o any_o picture_n etc._n picture_n defid_v &_o symbolo_fw-la cap._n 7._o credimus_fw-la quod_fw-la sedet_fw-la ad_fw-la dextrum_fw-la dei_fw-la patris_fw-la etc._n 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