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A05217 A reflection of certaine authors that are pretended to disauow the churches infallibilitie in her generall decrees of faith. By F.E. Lechmere, Edmund, d. 1640? 1635 (1635) STC 15351; ESTC S106826 115,644 246

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occultant_fw-la &_o quae_fw-la arrij_fw-la sunt_fw-la sapiunt_fw-la comm●_n calculo_fw-la unius_fw-la spiritus_fw-la incitatu_fw-la anathemate_fw-la percusserunt_fw-la e●_n quod_fw-la isti_fw-la sibi_fw-la nomina_fw-la vendicaverint_fw-la synodorum_n etc._n etc._n 〈◊〉_d athanas_n epist_n ad_fw-la epictet_n qua_fw-la igitur_fw-la audacia_fw-la fit_a ut_fw-la post_fw-la tanti_fw-la concilij_fw-la authoritatem_fw-la disceptationes_fw-la aut_fw-la quaestiones_fw-la inf●tuant_fw-la ibidem_fw-la out_o 〈◊〉_d question_n and_o so_o far_o that_o who_o 〈◊〉_d do_v oppose_v themselves_o be_v ibidem_fw-la be_v ego_fw-la autem_fw-la demiratus_fw-la sum_fw-la tuam_fw-la pietatem_fw-la haec_fw-la sustinuisse_fw-la quod_fw-la non_fw-la simul_fw-la &_o istos_fw-la compescuerit_fw-la &_o piam●dem_n in_o concilio_n nicaeno_n traditam_fw-la ut_fw-la suprà_fw-la illis_fw-la propos●erit_fw-la ut_fw-la ijs_fw-la auditis_fw-la vel_fw-la in_o quietem_fw-la se_fw-la darent_fw-la vel_fw-la si_fw-la inquieti_fw-la 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africa_n verbum_fw-la illud_fw-la domini_fw-la per_fw-la ●licaenum_fw-la concilium_fw-la manet_fw-la in_o aeter●um_fw-la as_o for_o the_o comparison_n which_o he_o ●akes_v with_o scripture_n it_o ibidem_fw-la it_o catholici_fw-la scripturam_fw-la sacram_fw-la non_fw-la subijciunt_fw-la sed_fw-la anteponunt_fw-la concilijs_fw-la neque_fw-la in_o hoc_fw-la ulla_fw-la controversia_fw-la es●_n bellarm._n li._n 2._o de_fw-la concilijs_fw-la c._n 12._o quod_fw-la si_fw-la interdum_fw-la aliq●_n catholici_fw-la dicunt_fw-la scripturam_fw-la pendere_fw-la ab_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la sive_fw-la 〈◊〉_d concilio_n non_fw-la intelligunt_fw-la quoad_fw-la authoritatem_fw-la &_o secundum_fw-la se_fw-la sed_fw-la quoad_fw-la explicationem_fw-la &_o quoad_fw-la nos_fw-la ibidem_fw-la hurt_v ●ot_n he_o that_o say_v the_o scripture_n where_o it_o be_v plain_a and_o universallie_o ●eceaved_v be_v more_o powerful_a than_o a_o council_n or_o that_o the_o eternal_a vertie_n open_o reveal_v as_o it_o be_v to_o saint_n 〈◊〉_d more_o powerful_a than_o scripture_n ●oth_v not_o prejudice_n infallibility_n both_o ●ay_v have_v it_o and_o yet_o one_o be_v more_o powerful_a and_o this_o suppose_a visit●hat_o ●hat_z both_o scripture_n and_o the_o coun●ell_n be_v infallible_a but_o the_o power_n of_o cripture_n more_o the_o discourse_n of_o s._n athanasius_n be_v convince_a he_o tha●_n will_v not_o submit_v his_o judgement_n to_o tha●_n authority_n which_o be_v most_o powerful_a do_v in_o vain_a pretend_v he_o will_v be_v rule_v by_o the_o less_o he_o do_v easy_o contemn_v a_o council_n who_o contemne●_n the_o scripture_n propose_v by_o the_o universal_a church_n as_o the_o arian_n do_v who_o contradict_v open_a scripture_n and_o all_o antiquity_n neither_o do_v this_o make_v any_o thing_n against_o the_o decision_n of_o controversy_n by_o counsel_n for_o though_o the_o way_n of_o counsel_n be_v a_o certain_a way_n to_o determine_v what_o we_o must_v believe_v yet_o may_v there_o be_v another_o way_n to_o find_v it_o out_o and_o that_o certain_a too_o and_o doubtless_o he_o that_o see_v in_o scripture_n that_o which_o he_o know_v the_o whole_a symbolical_a church_n that_o which_o hold_v out_o the_o book_n wherein_o ●he_n read_v it_o do_v believe_v be_v more_o powerfullie_o move_v to_o give_v assent_n than_o he_o that_o hear_v a_o council_n only_o and_o our_o assent_n be_v more_o prove_v when_o the_o prophet_n and_o apostle_n all_o propose_v the_o same_o then_o when_o one_o alone_o do_v avouch_v it_o though_o one_o prophet_n or_o apostle_n by_o himself_o be_v sufficient_a and_o infallible_a §._o xii_o vincentius_n lirinensis_n will_v have_v church-authoritie_n rely_v upon_o in_o matter_n of_o faith_n as_o certain_a and_o undoubted_a how_o a_o man_n be_v to_o carry_v himself_o when_o matter_n of_o faith_n be_v question_v the_o way_n to_o find_v the_o catholic_a sense_n general_n counsel_n infallible_a in_o their_o decree_n and_o those_o be_v heretic_n that_o contradict_v and_o 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interpret_v it_o ●ivers_a way_n so_o that_o to_o know_v the_o ●ight_a meaning_n of_o it_o it_o be_v necessary_a ●o_o recurre_v to_o tradition_n and_o as_o he_o ●aith_v in_o the_o second_o chapter_n of_o his_o book_n fine_a book_n idem_fw-la c._n 2._o vide_fw-la disp_n li._n 5._o c_o 1_o &_o li._n 4._o c._n 8._o pag._n 405._o &_o pag._n 395_o fine_a that_o the_o line_n of_o the_o prophetical_a and_o apostolical_a interpretation_n be_v direct_v according_a to_o the_o rule_n of_o the_o ecclesiastical_a and_o catholic_a sense_n which_o catholic_a sense_n may_v be_v find_v three_o way_n chief_o according_a as_o he_o conceive_v it_o one_o be_v to_o see_v if_o it_o be_v hold_v by_o the_o symbolical_a or_o universal_a church_n a_o second_o be_v to_o see_v if_o it_o be_v hold_v by_o the_o father_n each_o writing_n in_o his_o own_o time_n a_o three_o to_o see_v whether_o it_o be_v define_v in_o any_o general_a council_n by_o these_o three_o way_n principal_o a_o man_n be_v direct_v to_o the_o 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qu●d_fw-la antiquitus_fw-la abomnibus_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la catholicae_fw-la sacerdotibus_fw-la universalis_fw-la concilij_fw-la authoritate_fw-la decretum_fw-la deinde_fw-la si_fw-la qua_fw-la nova_fw-la etc._n etc._n c._n 41._o exemplun_n adhibuimus_fw-la sancti_fw-la concili●_n quod_fw-la antè_fw-la trienmum_fw-la fermè_fw-la in_o asia_n apud_fw-la ephesum_fw-la celebratum_fw-la est_fw-la etc._n etc._n universis_fw-la sacerdotibus_fw-la qui_fw-la illò_fw-la ducenti_fw-la feré_fw-la convenerant_fw-la etc._n etc._n omnes_fw-la verò_fw-la catholicos_fw-la sacerdotes_fw-la fuisse_fw-la etc._n etc._n c._n 42._o we_o have_v say_v that_o in_o the_o antiquity_n of_o the_o church_n two_o thing_n be_v great_o and_o with_o great_a diligence_n to_o be_v observe_v quibus_fw-la whereunto_o all_o those_o must_v adhere_v steedfastlie_o that_o will_v not_o be_v heretic_n why_o do_v you_o start_v first_o of_o all_o if_o any_o thing_n shall_v be_v auncientlie_o define_v with_o the_o authority_n of_o 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