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A02568 The peace of Rome Proclaimed to all the world, by her famous Cardinall Bellarmine, and the no lesse famous casuist Nauarre. Whereof the one acknowledgeth, and numbers vp aboue three hundred differences of opinion, maintained in the popish church. The other confesses neere threescore differences amongst their owne doctors in one onely point of their religion. Gathered faithfully out of their writings in their own words, and diuided into foure bookes, and those into seuerall decads. Whereto is prefixed a serious disswasiue from poperie. By I.H. Azpilcueta, Martín de, 1492?-1586.; Hall, Joseph, 1574-1656.; Bellarmino, Roberto Francesco Romolo, Saint, 1542-1621. Disputationes de controversiis Christianae fidei. English. Selections. 1609 (1609) STC 12696; ESTC S106027 106,338 252

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chapt_n 7._o see_v at_o large_a his_o confutation_n of_o sixtus_n senensis_n in_o the_o same_o place_n pag._n 30._o second_o john_n driedo_n against_o bellarmine_n iohannes_n driedo_n a_o catholic_a writer_n deny_v the_o book_n of_o baruch_n to_o be_v canonical_a etc._n in_o his_o first_o book_n the_o last_o chapter_n at_o the_o last_o argument_n but_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o catholic_a church_n persuade_v we_o the_o contrary_a which_o in_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n the_o four_o sit_v number_n the_o prophet_n baruch_n among_o the_o sacred_a book_n bellarmine_n the_o same_o book_n chap._n 8._o pag._n 41._o three_o erasmus_n and_o johannes_n driedo_n against_o bellarmine_n not_o only_o heretic_n etc._n pagan_n jew_n but_o of_o catholic_a christian_n julius_n africanus_n of_o old_a and_o of_o late_a johannes_n driedo_n in_o his_o first_o book_n de_fw-fr script_n etc._n etc._n chap._n last_o and_o of_o semi-christians_a erasmus_n in_o his_o scholee_n upon_o hieroms_n praeface_n to_o daniel_n have_v reject_v the_o story_n of_o susanna_n as_o new_a and_o foist_v into_o the_o canon_n but_o notwithstanding_o it_o be_v certain_a that_o all_o these_o part_n of_o daniel_n be_v true_o canonical_a bellarm._n the_o same_o book_n chap._n 9_o pag._n 43._o four_o cajetan_v a_o cardinal_n and_o some_o other_o nameless_a against_o bellarmine_n some_o object_n that_o the_o church_n receive_v those_o book_n that_o saint_n hierome_n receive_v hieron_n and_o refuse_v those_o which_o he_o reject_v as_o it_o appear_v distinct._n 15._o canon_n sancta_fw-la romana_fw-la but_o hierome_n flat_o affirm_v all_o these_o five_o book_n not_o to_o be_v canonical_a so_o reason_v cajetan_v otherwise_o a_o catholic_a &_o a_o holy_a doctor_n some_o answer_n that_o hierome_n say_v only_o that_o these_o be_v not_o canonical_a among_o the_o jew_n but_o that_o can_v be_v for_o he_o mention_v also_o the_o book_n of_o the_o pastor_n which_o be_v account_v to_o the_o new_a testament_n but_o i_o admit_v that_o hierome_n be_v of_o that_o opinion_n because_o no_o general_a council_n as_o yet_o have_v define_v of_o these_o book_n except_o only_o of_o the_o book_n of_o judith_n which_o hierome_n also_o afterward_o receive_v that_o therefore_o which_o gelasius_n say_v in_o the_o distinct_a above_o cite_v be_v to_o be_v understand_v of_o the_o book_n of_o the_o doctor_n of_o the_o church_n origin_n ruffian_n and_o the_o like_a not_o of_o the_o book_n of_o scripture_n bellarm._n ibid._n chap._n 10._o pag._n 53._o five_o bellarmine_n against_o erasmus_n caietanus_n erasmus_fw-la in_o our_o time_n erasmus_n in_o the_o end_n of_o his_o note_n upon_o this_o epistle_n and_o cajetan_v in_o the_o begin_n of_o his_o commentary_n upon_o this_o epistle_n have_v reviue_v and_o renew_v a_o question_n that_o have_v long_o sleep_v in_o silence_n concern_v the_o author_n and_o authority_n of_o the_o epistle_n to_o the_o hebrew_n bellarmine_n undertake_v to_o confute_v their_o several_a reason_n draw_v first_o from_o hebr._n 1.5_o compare_v with_o 2._o sam._n 7.14_o second_o from_o hebr._n 9.4_o compare_v with_o 1_o king_n 8.9_o three_o from_o heb._n 9.20_o compare_v with_o exod._n 24.8_o bellarm._n ibid._n chap._n 17._o pag._n 77._o six_o beda_n lyranus_fw-la driedo_n mercator_n sulpitius_n genebrard_n benedictus_n bellarmine_n dissent_v etc._n there_o be_v two_o principal_a opinion_n about_o the_o story_n of_o judith_n some_o will_v have_v that_o story_n to_o have_v happen_v after_o the_o babilonish_a captivity_n either_o in_o cambyses_n time_n so_o beda_n lyranus_fw-la io._n driedo_n or_o under_o darius_n hystaspes_n as_o gerardus_n mercator_n severus_n sulpitius_n refer_v it_o to_o artaxerxes_n ochus_n some_o other_o hold_v it_o to_o have_v be_v after_o the_o captivity_n either_o in_o sedecias_n time_n as_o gil._n genebrardus_n or_o josias_n as_o john_n benedictus_n but_o neither_o of_o these_o seem_v to_o i_o probable_a enough_o say_v bellarmine_n who_o confute_v all_o they_o placeth_z this_o story_n in_o the_o reign_n of_o manasses_n king_n of_o juda_n bellarm._n same_o book_n c._n 12._o
indeed_o for_o neither_o scripture_n nor_o austen_n ever_o mention_v more_o than_o one_o bellarm._n l._n 3._o c._n 9_o p._n 229._o three_o bellarmine_n against_o turrecremata_fw-la that_o close_a infidel_n etc._n that_o have_v neither_o faith_n nor_o any_o other_o christian_a virtue_n yet_o external_o for_o some_o temporal_a commodity_n profess_v the_o catholic_a faith_n belong_v not_o to_o the_o true_a church_n be_v teach_v not_o only_o by_o the_o caluinist_n other_o but_o by_o some_o of_o our_o catholic_n among_o who_o be_v io._n de_fw-fr turrecremata_fw-la l._n 4._o de_fw-fr eccles._n but_o we_o follow_v their_o phrase_n of_o speech_n which_o say_v that_o those_o who_o by_o a_o external_a profession_n only_o be_v join_v to_o the_o faithful_a be_v true_a part_n of_o the_o body_n of_o the_o church_n though_o dry_a and_o dead_a bellarm._n l._n 3._o c._n 10._o pag._n 232._o four_o alexander_n alensis_n and_o turrecremata_fw-la against_o bellarmine_n there_o be_v some_o catholic_a doctor_n etc._n which_o teach_v in_o the_o passion_n of_o our_o lord_n there_o remain_v true_a faith_n in_o none_o but_o the_o bless_a virgin_n alone_o and_o that_o they_o hold_v to_o be_v signify_v by_o that_o one_o candle_n which_o alone_o be_v keep_v light_n in_o the_o three_o night_n before_o easter_n so_o hold_v alexander_n alensis_n 3._o p._n q._n ult._n art_n 2._o and_o john_n de_fw-fr turrecremata_fw-la l._n 1._o de_fw-fr eccles._n c._n 30._o but_o i_o wonder_v at_o turrecremata_fw-la who_o for_o so_o slight_a a_o argument_n from_o a_o candle_n say_v it_o be_v against_o the_o faith_n of_o the_o universal_a church_n to_o affirm_v otherwise_o for_o rupertus_n in_o his_o 5._o book_n of_o divine_a office_n chap._n 26._o say_v that_o in_o his_o time_n the_o last_o candle_n also_o have_v wont_a to_o be_v quench_v it_o may_v be_v answer_v rather_o with_o abulensis_n that_o by_o this_o candle_n be_v signify_v that_o only_o in_o the_o bless_a virgin_n there_o be_v for_o those_o three_o day_n a_o explicit_a faith_n of_o the_o resurrection_n bellarmine_n l._n 3._o c._n 17._o pag._n 27._o five_o cajetan_n francisc._n victoria_n against_o other_o doctor_n etc._n if_o there_o be_v no_o constitution_n for_o the_o choice_n of_o the_o pope_n and_o all_o the_o cardinal_n shall_v perish_v at_o once_o the_o question_n be_v in_o who_o shall_v be_v the_o right_n of_o the_o election_n some_o hold_n that_o the_o right_n of_o the_o choice_n set_v aside_o the_o positive_a law_n shall_v belong_v to_o the_o council_n of_o bishop_n as_o cajetan_v in_o his_o treatise_n of_o the_o power_n of_o the_o pope_n and_o council_n chap._n 13._o franciscus_n victoria_n relect._n 2._o q._n 2._o of_o the_o power_n of_o the_o church_n other_o as_o silvester_n report_v in_o the_o word_n excommunication_n teach_v that_o it_o pertain_v to_o the_o clergy_n of_o rome_n bellarm._n in_o his_o first_o book_n of_o the_o member_n of_o the_o church_n militant_a c._n 10._o p._n 52._o six_o bellarmine_n against_o antonius_n delphinus_n and_o michael_n medina_n to_o that_o objection_n out_o of_o jerome_n etc._n who_o say_v upon_o the_o first_o to_o titus_n that_o a_o presbyter_n be_v the_o same_o with_o a_o bishop_n be_v answer_v by_o antonius_n delphinus_n l._n 2._o of_o the_o church_n that_o in_o the_o begin_n of_o the_o church_n all_o presbyter_n be_v bishop_n but_o this_o satisfy_v not_o michael_n medina_n in_o his_o first_o book_n de_fw-fr sacr_n hom_n origine_fw-la affirm_v that_o s._n jerome_n hold_v the_o same_o opinion_n with_o the_o aerian_a heretic_n and_o that_o not_o only_a jerome_n be_v in_o this_o heresy_n but_o also_o ambrose_n austen_n sedulius_n primasius_n chrisostom_n theodoret_n oecumenius_n theophilact_n the_o opinion_n of_o these_o man_n be_v condemn_v first_o in_o aerius_n then_o in_o the_o waldense_n and_o after_o in_o wickliff_n but_o this_o opinion_n of_o medina_n be_v very_o inconsiderate_a bellarm._n same_o book_n c._n 15._o p._n 75._o seven_o bellarmine_n against_o onuphrius_n the_o opinion_n of_o onuphrius_n concern_v the_o name_n or_o title_n of_o cardinal_n &c_n see_v confute_v by_o bellarmine_n in_o the_o same_o book_n c._n 16._o p._n 82._o eight_o io._n maior_n and_o jodoc._n clictonaeus_n against_o s._n thomas_n cajetan_n sotus_n etc._n iohannes_n maior_n hold_v that_o the_o vow_n of_o single_a life_n of_o priest_n stand_v by_o the_o law_n of_o god_n and_o therefore_o can_v be_v dispense_v with_o so_o also_o jod._n clictonaeus_n in_o his_o book_n de_fw-fr contin_n sacerd._n who_o there_o defend_v two_o opinion_n which_o can_v hold_v together_o but_o s._n thomas_n in_o 2.2_o q._n 88_o art_n 11._o say_v plain_o that_o the_o vow_n of_o continency_n be_v only_o by_o the_o decree_n of_o the_o church_n annex_v to_o holy_a order_n and_o therefore_o may_v be_v dispense_v with_o the_o same_o teach_v cajetan_v in_o opusc_n and_o sotus_n in_o his_o seven_o book_n of_o justice_n etc._n etc._n bellarm._n lib._n 1._o cap._n 18._o pag._n 92._o nine_o erasmus_n and_o panormitan_n against_o the_o other_o popish_a doctor_n etc._n erasmus_n in_o a_o declamation_n of_o the_o praise_n of_o matrimony_n hold_v it_o profitable_a that_o liberty_n of_o marriage_n shall_v be_v grant_v to_o priest_n and_o the_o same_o be_v teach_v by_o card._n panormitan_n a_o catholic_a and_o learned_a doctor_n in_o the_o chapt._n cum_fw-la olim_fw-la against_o these_o error_n we_o be_v to_o prove_v that_o the_o vow_n of_o continency_n be_v so_o annex_v to_o holy_a order_n that_o they_o neither_o may_v marry_v nor_o converse_v with_o their_o wife_n former_o marry_v bellarm._n same_o book_n c._n 19_o p._n 95._o ten_o the_o gloss_n innocent_a panormitan_n hostiensis_n oppose_v by_o all_o divine_n and_o some_o canonist_n the_o four_o error_n be_v of_o many_o of_o the_o canonist_n canonistarum_fw-la which_o hold_v that_o tithe_n even_o according_a to_o the_o determination_n of_o quantity_n stand_v by_o the_o law_n of_o god_n and_o that_o no_o other_o quantity_n can_v be_v set_v down_o by_o any_o humane_a law_n or_o custom_n so_o the_o gloss_n innocentius_n panormitan_n hostiensis_n but_o doubtless_o it_o be_v a_o manifest_a error_n as_o not_o only_o all_o divine_n but_o some_o canonist_n also_o teach_v as_o sylvester_n in_o the_o word_n decima_fw-la quaest_n 4._o and_o navar._n cap._n 21._o and_o herein_o many_o of_o the_o canonist_n offend_v double_a once_o in_o that_o they_o defend_v a_o falsehood_n twice_o in_o that_o they_o do_v almost_o condemn_v all_o those_o divine_n as_o heretic_n which_o hold_v the_o contrary_n bellarm_n same_o book_n c._n 25._o p._n 145._o decad_n vii_o first_o sotus_n against_o sylvester_n and_o navarre_n bellarmine_n and_o aquinas_n with_o both_o whether_o the_o precept_n of_o tithe_n etc._n as_o it_o be_v positive_a and_o humane_a may_v by_o custom_n be_v alter_v be_v doubtful_a sotus_n hold_v direct_o it_o can_v book_n 9_o quaest_n 4._o art_n 1._o and_o think_v that_o this_o be_v the_o judgement_n of_o aquinaes_n but_o i_o think_v with_o silvester_n and_o navarre_n that_o it_o may_v and_o i_o doubt_v not_o but_o this_o be_v the_o opinion_n of_o aquinas_n bellarm._n ibid._n p._n 148._o second_o bellarmine_n against_o thomas_n waldensis_n thomas_n waldensis_n teach_v etc._n that_o clerk_n shall_v either_o give_v their_o good_n to_o the_o poor_a or_o lay_v they_o together_o in_o common_a and_o prove_v it_o by_o some_o sentence_n of_o father_n origen_n hierome_n bernard_n but_o it_o be_v certain_a that_o clerk_n be_v not_o by_o their_o profession_n tie_v to_o put_v away_o their_o patrimony_n bellarmine_n same_o book_n c._n 27._o p._n 156._o three_o marsilius_n paduan_n io._n de_fw-fr janduno_n turrecremata_fw-la canonist_n gloss_n driedonius_n francisc._n victoria_n dominicus_n a_o soto_n covarrwias_n dissent_v in_o the_o question_n concern_v the_o liberty_n of_o ecclesiastical_a person_n eccles._n be_v three_o opinion_n first_o be_v of_o many_o heretic_n that_o clerk_n be_v and_o shall_v be_v subject_a to_o secular_a power_n both_o in_o payment_n of_o tribute_n and_o in_o judgement_n especial_o not_o ecclesiastical_a so_o also_o marsilius_n of_o padua_n and_o io._n de_fw-fr janduno_n teach_v that_o christ_n himself_o be_v not_o free_a from_o pay_v tribute_n and_o that_o he_o do_v it_o not_o voluntary_o but_o of_o necessity_n as_o be_v report_v by_o turrecremata_fw-la the_o second_o opinion_n in_o another_o extreme_a be_v of_o many_o canonist_n who_o hold_v that_o by_o the_o law_n of_o god_n clerk_n and_o their_o good_n be_v free_a from_o the_o power_n of_o secular_a prince_n so_o teaehe_v the_o gloss_n in_o can._n tributum_fw-la and_o of_o this_o mind_n seem_v io._n driedonius_n to_o be_v in_o his_o book_n of_o christian_a liberty_n ch_n 9_o the_o three_o in_o the_o mean_a be_v of_o many_o divine_n that_o clerk_n be_v free_a partly_o by_o the_o law_n of_o god_n partly_o by_o the_o law_n of_o man_n and_o partly_o neither_o way_n so_o think_v franciscus_n victoria_n dominicus_n a_o