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or_o at_o least_o such_o as_o excuse_n from_o sin_n and_o 96_o he_o far_o say_v 3._o that_o it_o be_v the_o common_a opinion_n of_o the_o school_n and_o of_o their_o divine_n that_o layman_n err_v with_o their_o teacher_n be_v excuse_v from_o any_o fault_n and_o as_o long_o as_o it_o be_v out_o of_o obedience_n to_o their_o teacher_n it_o be_v rather_o 97._o a_o meritorious_a act._n let_v we_o now_o lay_v these_o thing_n to_o the_o present_a case_n and_o all_o the_o difficulty_n will_v soon_o disappear_v as_o to_o the_o matter_n of_o salvation_n they_o grant_v that_o god_n will_v not_o suffer_v those_o to_o be_v deceive_v about_o they_o who_o do_v sincere_o seek_v after_o the_o knowledge_n of_o they_o as_o to_o matter_n of_o controversy_n they_o be_v in_o no_o danger_n if_o they_o trust_v their_o spiritual_a guide_n and_o i_o assert_v that_o we_o own_v the_o authority_n of_o guide_n in_o the_o church_n and_o a_o due_a submission_n to_o they_o but_o the_o replier_n be_v not_o satisfy_v with_o this_o for_o he_o say_v 2._o that_o no_o other_o submission_n be_v sufficient_a but_o such_o as_o man_n lose_v i_o haven_n without_o it_o this_o be_v somewhat_o hard_a to_o understand_v do_v he_o in_o earnest_n think_v man_n can_v go_v to_o heaven_n without_o a_o blind_a obedience_n to_o the_o church_n be_v there_o no_o allowance_n to_o be_v make_v for_o ignorance_n education_n reasonable_a doubt_n be_v all_o other_o submission_n to_o authority_n in_o the_o church_n mere_o add_v pompam_fw-la but_o this_o gentleman_n do_v not_o take_v time_n to_o consider_v the_o doctrine_n of_o their_o own_o school_n about_o these_o matter_n for_o i_o can_v imagine_v he_o can_v be_v ignorant_a of_o it_o but_o the_o defender_n seem_v to_o be_v whole_o unacquainted_a with_o it_o otherwise_o he_o can_v not_o talk_v so_o crude_o and_o unskilful_o as_o he_o do_v about_o man_n judgement_n in_o matter_n that_o concern_v their_o salvation_n and_o 49._o he_o may_v now_o see_v how_o far_o their_o own_o 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