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The triall of the supremacy wherein is set fourth ye unitie of christes church milita[n]t geue[n] to S. Peter and his successoures by Christe and that there ought to be one head bishop in earth Christes vicar generall ouer all hys churche militant: wyth answeres to the blasphemous obiections made agaynste the same in the late miserable yeres now paste.
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Standish, John, 1507?-1570.
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herte he declared still in his owne person al subiection The .lvii. obiection In scriptures ther is no mencioÌ„ made of Peters supremaci The answere Not as heretikes wraste the scriptures but there is mention ofte many times in scripture of Peters supremacye as christeÌ„ people take y e scriptures As it is both in y e probacioÌ„s also in sundrye responsions in this boke ¶ The .lviii. obiection In diuerse consideracions a man may be head and chiefe yet iÌ„ other relatioÌ„s or respectes inferiour subiect y e chiefe tayler y e chiefe paynter the chiefe phisicion or surgeÌ„ here in London within y e parishes wher eueri of them doth dwel are but takeÌ„ as neyghbourlike may chauÌ„ce as much inferiours w tout aâ—â—i such preemineÌ„ce which they haue amoÌ„g their owne coÌ„panies in their owne halles so Peter chiefe first in placing chiefe in coÌ„staÌ„cye stedfastnes of minde chiefe in ferueÌ„tnes of deuocioÌ„ chiefe in preaching godlines but not chiefe or first in preemineÌ„ce here in y e world to be aboue princes c. ¶ The answere Peter in y t respect or coÌ„sideracioÌ„ y t he is christes vicar chief heade vndernethe him here in earth so is he heade ouer all y e be of the same occupatioÌ„ y t he is of bicause the similitude depeÌ„deth soÌ„what vpoÌ„ craftes or occupatioÌ„s that is to say of christes religioÌ„ He is chefe ouer al y â— professe christ whether he be tayler paynter phisicioÌ„ or surgen yea whether he be king or emperor not y â— Peter doth chalenge any seperiortye ouer an emperor or kiÌ„g bicause he is emperor or kiÌ„g or ouer a phisicioÌ„ or paynter bicause he is phisicion or paynter but in respect in consideracion al they be christeÌ„ meÌ„ so are they al vnder Peter like as y e head phisician the head tayler the head paynter head surgeÌ„ as it is iÌ„ thobiectioÌ„ will euer require and that by right all that be of the same crafte science or occupation to be vnder theÌ„ that w tout any respect or coÌ„sideracioÌ„ to riches or pouerty to wysedome or ignorance ¶ The .lix. obiectioÌ„ Oh howe many scriptures haue bene w tin these .xxii. yeares brought cited against the popes authority The answer Euer wheÌ„ ye heare any scripture alleged sayth OrigeÌ„ vpoÌ„ Mathue coÌ„trary to y t which y e vniuersal church obserueth beleue theÌ„ not Geue no credit to theÌ„ for they would but deceiue you w t false allegatioÌ„s or false applicatioÌ„s of scriptures coÌ„trary to y e meaning of tholy gost Thinke y t scrypture is no scripture if the true intente meaning be not there yea if therin ye folow not y e authority of the churche For howe shall we know I pray you that Moyses wrote al y t is in hê .v. bokes seing we neuer saw his hande writing Yea though we had sene it howe could we know it to be his haÌ„de he being dead so loÌ„g ago or if we knew al this how were we sure y t all that he wrote was true y t god spake vnto him And y e same is likewise to be demaunded of al the prophetes writinges If ye say christ bare testimony of Moyses of y e law of y t prophetes then I aske further howe ye know by christes testimonye y t these which we rede be Moyses or the prophetes writinges although we grauÌ„t y â— by christê testimony Moy. y e ê“ph wer true faithful Yea yet further how know ye y t christ bare testimonye of Moyses y e prophetes whoÌ„ ye neuer heard preche nor teache If ye say by y e euaÌ„gelistes theÌ„ I turne agayne aske how ye know these to be y e ghospels of Mathue Marke or Luke seing ye neuer sawe theyr haÌ„des writing And if ye had sene theÌ„ yet ye knewe theÌ„ not but suppose ye know them how do ye wote y t all is true y t thei wrote seing eueri maÌ„ may be deceyued yea speciallye Marke Luke whiche wrote but of here say dyd neuer see christ If ye say they wrote being taught by tholy gost then y e same doubt cometh agayne howe ye knowe tholy ghoste taught theÌ„ or how know ye y t these be their writinges w tout corruptioÌ„ or mixture CaÌ„ ye by any menes saue or defeÌ„d thautority of y e scripture but onlye by thauthority of y e ecclesiastical tradicioÌ„s surely by none other Ye know which be the canonical scriptures y e true seÌ„se therof only by y e testimonye of y e church vnderstaÌ„d receiued by successioÌ„ of the fathers froÌ„ y e beginniÌ„g til this our time Dionise ClemeÌ„t Policarpe Ignatiê° TertuliaÌ„ OrigeÌ„ Ciprian Athana Basil Hilari Chriso Ambrose Hierome Austine w t al holy meÌ„ euer since had neuer other rule to know y e truth of scripture by but onely y t comeÌ„ professioÌ„ coÌ„seÌ„t of al the fathers euer in their time by successioÌ„ linking together their testimonies for y e ful knowledge of y e truth This is was euer shalbe y e very piller fouÌ„dacioÌ„ wherunto we must nedes lein So y t we haue receiued y e truth of y e ghospel by y e ecclesiasticall tradicioÌ„ rather theÌ„ by writing yea y e certitude of our religioÌ„ sure fayth hath not depeÌ„ded froÌ„ y e begining vpoÌ„ y e authority of y e gospels writeÌ„ but rather coÌ„trarywise y e authoriti of y e gospel writteÌ„ hath depeÌ„ded vpon the certitude of our religioÌ„ c. Paule wheÌ„ he sayd if an angel froÌ„ heueÌ„ preche any other ghospel theÌ„ thê cursed be he did not meane of any ghospel writen which theÌ„ had no authority iÌ„ y e church though sone after y e gospels writeÌ„ for certeÌ„ causes receued their authority of y e church And here is now to be noted y t we rede in Eusebius how that Serapion that learned holy bishop of Antioche sayd we receyue Peter other of thappostels euen as christ but we refuse such thinges as be falsely writen vnder their names bicause we haue no such tradicioÌ„ of the church c. This was y e rule then to know thinges by when they euer receiued al as it were by haÌ„d one of an other TheÌ„ they perceiued y t thauthority of y e ecclesiastical tradicyoÌ„ exteÌ„ded much further then the authority of y e ghospel writen y t in al doubtful cases it must geue seÌ„teÌ„ce iudgemeÌ„t whych is truth which is falsily So y t here nowe to coÌ„clude though heretikes wrast neuer so mani textes of scripture agaynst the popes authority it maketh no force nor proueth any thing agaynste our purpose And yet moreouer hereby appeareth y â— though there were no scripture at al to proue the popes authority by as there be very mani yet y t made nothing contrarye herevnto seing that by successession it hath bene stil receiued eueÌ„ froÌ„ Peters time