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A30029 A modest defence of my book entituled, Quakerism expos'd as also of my broad sheet : with a scheme of the Quakers yearly synod, and other books presented anno 1699 to the Parliament : and G. Whitehead's inside turn'd outward, by reprinting his ancient book Ishmael, &c. intirely, shewing thereby the Quakers ancient testimony of contempt of the Holy Scriptures and blasphemy against the blessed Trinity ... / by Francis Bugg. Bugg, Francis, 1640-1724?; Atkinson, Christopher. Ishmael and his mother cast out into the wilderness. 1700 (1700) Wing B5375; ESTC R19514 73,450 146

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and foolish People that would have a King and what Work Joshua made with the Kings how he brought them out of the Cave a fit Place for them and all these Novices Christians that are crying up Earthly Kings And we know that these Kings are the Spiritual Egyptians got up since the Days of the Apostles Come smooth George with all thy Puritanical Sincerity why didst thou not recite this whole Quotation But it seems thou art not under a necessity to be plain-hearted What! it seems this is too plain and too manifest What! to be absolutely against all Kings and Kingly Government and thy Paint not able to cover it But George thou also say'st p. 69. Let their Books and ours be compared to clear our Innocency from these Adversaries Calumnies Ah George this is still worse what to add Hypocrisie to Treason Thou knowest George in thy Conscience if thou hast any or if it be not quite seared that at West Dereham Conference your Friends had an Opportunity were pressed to it but could not be prevailed with nay tho' there then were near Twenty of your eminent Teachers and about an Hundred of your Hearers yet not one of them could be prevail'd with either to compare your Books nay nor to own them and vindicate the Doctrine contained in them how then hast thou now the Impudence to say Let their Books and ours be compared as above Wherefore in your next be plain whether you have not deviated in any one Point from what you were in the beginning and whether you resolve to justifie your Friends Ancient Books as you say you can see the Postscript to your Ishmael annexed I will only trouble my Reader in this Place with one Citation more and it is about the Trinity and in this George is as defective and short as in the other and the reason is as plain which is to cover over their Blasphemy against the Blessed Trinity to manifest which there are several Charges out of divers Books of the Quakers in the Book intituled Some few of the Quakers many Horrid Blasphemies Heresies and their Bloody Treasonable Principles Destructive to Government out of which I shall mention but one to shew as well how short Whitehead is in reciting it upon his Excuse of being only defensive and thereby not under a necessity to cite the whole as above noted See Some few of the Quakers many Horrid Blasphemous Heresies c. p. 1. out of G. Fox's Great Mystery c. p. 246. The Scripture do not tell the People of a Trinity nor Three Persons but the Common-Prayer-Mass-Book speaks of Three Persons brought in by the Father the Pope To this George Whitehead Replies Truth and Innocency vindicated c. p. 50. saying Their first Objection the Scripture do not tell People of a Trinity nor Three Persons c. and so dropt the other part of the Quotation out of Fox viz. But the Common-Prayer-Mass-Book speaks of Three Persons brought in by the Father the Pope These he left out as now not proper to mention since the Act of Toleration enforces the Acknowledgment of the Blessed Trinity as the Condition of their Liberty But as a Salvo p. ibid. George Whitehead urges another Book of George Fox's stiled Some Principles of the Elect People of God called Quakers c. Printed 1671. p. 43. Of the Word Trinitas there is no mention made in Scripture yet the Scripture speaks of Father Son and Holy Ghost and all these are one I have with some Difficulty procuted this Book in order to trace and to find out George Whitehead in all his Subterfuges and lurking Places and I find him as false in citing Fox their Apostle as in the above-noted For of the 57 Words in Fox's Paragraph he G.W. has cited but 26 Words which is not the one half but the reason is there is no more for his Turn and his Business is only to serve a Turn Jesuit-like as his Friend Anne Docwra well observes now to the Quotation of Fox which Whitehead has split viz. Some Principles of the Elect c. p. 43. Of this Word Trinitas there is no mention made in Scripture yet the Scripture speaks of Father Son and Holy Ghost and of Water Blood and Spirit and all these are one among us as in the Primitive time among the Apostles who gave no such outward Names to them as Trinity as the World now doth c. Who then can believe this People who thus split Sentences and mangle the Sence For here is Six Persons in the Quakers Godhead Father Son Holy Ghost Water Blood Spirit all these are one among the Quakers so that here is a twofold Trinity Trinitas Trinitas in the Unity of their Essence where no one is greater or lesser than the other nor yet one before or after the other for the Water is Spirit the Blood is Spirit and both the Light within Father Son and Holy Ghost and all within and every of these Lights is their Eternal God And to this agrees George Fox Jun. in his Works p. 66. viz. By one that witnesseth God Christ the Light the Word the Spirit the Truth the Kingdom of God within me and these are one Reader Here is in the Quakers Essence Septem Personas of which no one was before the other nor none greater or lesser than another and all within Again p. ibid. Stumble not at the Light for if thou dost thou stumblest at God at Christ at the Door the VVay the Truth the Life the Rock the Elect Stone and all these are but one Here again is one added here is Octo Personas in the Unity of their Essence of which no one was before the other nor none greater or lesser than the other for the Stone is Light the Rock is Light the Life is Light the Truth is Light the VVay is Light the Door is Light and God is Light and all within them Only measurably as p. 72. And verily Friends if you keep not to the measure of the pure God in you so that God dwells in them by parts or measure see p. 55 83. ibid. The next thing I am to prove is their Light within to be the Eternal God this done I think I have proved that they like Thieves and Robbers have climbed up another way distinct from the Holy Apostles Primitive Christians Saints and Martyrs and all Christian Churches to this Day in order to which see p. 46 to 50. ibid. I the Light will fall upon you and grinde you to Powder All who will not own me the Light in you and I will make you to know that I the Light am the true Eternal God which created all things and that there is not another beside me can save I matter not by what Name you are called by whether it be King Protector Prince Duke Lord Judge Justice Parliament Priest Lawyer Gathered Churches Army Gentry Mean Men or Beggars I 'll break all Sects and Opinions and Gathered Churches which
the Scriptures say that God the Father the First Person in the Trinity is the Word No Christ the Second Person is the Word proved by that Scripture above quoted and perverted by them Whitehead in Ishmael p. 9. II. They are such Teachers as tell People of a Sacrament for which there is not one Scripture and so feed the People with their own Inventions and therefore we deny them III. They are such Teachers as have told us the Letter was the Light whenas the Letter saith Christ is the Light therefore we deny them John 1 c. Query Where is the Man What is his Name What Book is it in That the Publick Ministers ever said that the Letter as they contemptuously call the Holy Scriptures was the Light mentioned John 1. or the Essential Word of God only the Written Word of God spoke forth by Men Divinely Inspired and as such are a Light or give us Light and are a Means to understand the Mind and Will of God through the Influences of his Holy Spirit assisting therein No this I take to be a false Accusation like that of Joseph Wyeth's Anguis Flagellatus p. 158. i. e. Upon Examination of Christopher Wade's Words they seem to imply as if he had affirmed of the Scriptures that they were the Eternal and Indwelling Word of God c. This is a Lie told in Hypocrisie for I have read the Page through and there is no such Saying or any thing like it And thus do they belie their Adversaries both by false Citations and Charges Wherefore as the Protestants says touching the Jesuits so may the Protestants conclude by the Quakers both in reciting their Opponents their reciting their Friends and their Sham-Creeds and Protestations in their late Books presented to the Parliament the Judges Justices c. viz. Distrust them in all they say A Specimen of all which you have in this small Treatise But to go on IV. They are such Teachers as tell People that Matthew Mark Luke and John is the Gospel therefore we deny them V. They are Babylon's Merchants that make a Trade of the Scriptures there-we deny them VI. They are such Teachers as take a Text out of the Saints Conditions i. e. out of the Scriptures therefore we deny them These are some of the chief Reasons why the Quakers deny the Publick Ministers and not only so and there leave it no but in Magisterial Insulting Domineering manner counsel and command the People contrary to all the Laws made and established to go no more to Church The like of which I do believe never was done by a dissenting People who enjoy their Liberty by Indulgence since the World began which after I have recited Fox's Motion from God as he audaciously pretends I shall recite this Counsel against the Estabished Church and next his Authority from The Word of God as he audaciously pretends as in p. 15 54. viz. Moved of the Lord written from the Spirit of the Lord for the Cleansing of the Land of all False Teachers Seducers and Deceivers and Witches who beguile the People and Inchanters and Diviners and Sorcerers and Hirelings c. All People that read these things never come ye more at the Steeple-House nor Pay your Priests more Tythes till they have Answered them for if ye do ye uphold them in their Sins and must partake of their Plagues This is the Word of the Lord God to you all G. F. Reader their First and Great Commandment is Pay your Priest no more Tythes and their Second is like unto it Never go more to the Steeple-House and upon these Two Commandments hangs their Law and their Prophets and by this you may know that his Disciples love him in that they keep his Commandments And the Reasons he gives to enforce Obedience to their Commandments are because the Priests tell them that the Holy Scriptures are the written Word of God because they tell us of a Sacrament because they tell People that Matthew Mark Luke and John is the Gospel because they take a Text out of the Scripture and Expound it to the People And for these and the like Reasons they call them False Teachers Seducers Deceivers Witches Inchanters Diviners Sorcerers and Hirelings And for their Warrant This is the Word of the Lord God to you all Thus do they sit in the Judgment-Seat even as in O. Cromwell's Time and for the same Cause now as then they have Condemned not only the Church of England but Protestant Dissenters too But George as I have turned thee topsy-turvy so am I now turning thy Inside outward shewing by thy Ishmael c. thy Ancient Testimony and Principle and thou sayest thou art not changed See thy Ishmael to which I have neither added nor diminished only the backside of the Title-Page Running Title Marginal Notes and Observations from Pag. 11. thy Name being on the Title-Page the middle and at the end Signed and also Sealed with your Common Seal i. e. Given forth from the Spirit of the Lord in us G. Whitehead c. But let me clear up one Passage in your Truth and Innocency Vindicated c. p. 31. As for this Quotation in Ishmael c. p. 10 11. G. Whitehead hath positively disowned the Words and affirms they are none of his and that he writ not that Part of the Answer to Townsend which was in the Year * It was 1655. 1654. and that he shall neither stand by nor own these Words viz. And here thy Antiquity and the Three Persons which thou would devide out of one like a Conjurer are all denied and thou shut up with them in perpetual Darkness for the Lake and the Pit Now George tho' thy Signing and Sealing this Book with thy Hand and Common Seal as aforesaid were sufficient to Entitle thee to this Hellish Blasphemy as if thou hadst Signed and Sealed a Bond of an Hundred Pound made by a Scribe would oblige thee to Pay the Debt tho' thou didst not write the Bond yet George I have a further Demonstration to prove the Book thine and never heard that until 1690 an Act being made which enjoined all that expected Toleration to own the B. Trinity that you did disown any part of this Book But George Disowning will not now do you must Retract and Condemn it and this to do will be as bitter a Pill as it was to thee and thy Brethren to own K. W. III. Rightful and Lawful King of these Realms For I have Mr. Smith's Book The Quakers Disarmed c. and your Book Truth Defending the Quakers c. both Printed 1659. wherein he charges you with this Ishmael and you both own and defend it And first The Qua. Disarm c. Mr. Smith He that writ this Book Ishmael opens a Door to Damnable Heresies you writ this Book G. W. therefore you open a Door to Damnable Heresies G. W. I deny it I did not write all there is something scribled on it Mr. Smith True here
Spread-Eagle at the West end of Pauls 1655. OBserve Reader That tho' the Quakers late Books seem to be more Orthodox than their Ancient Books said to be given forth tho' most Blasphemously from the Spirit of the Lord yet they are still the same in Principle tho' they otherwise word the Matter for Proof of this see their Book Primitive Christianity Revived c. by Jos Wyeth Printed 1698 viz. Our Principles says he are now no other than what they were when we were first a People c. Next see G. Whitehead's Counterfeit Convert c. p. 72. I may says he see Cause otherwise to word the Matter and yet our Intentions be the same c. So that it is morally impossible to understand the Quakers by their Words whilst they say and write one thing and mean another ARIUS like Therefore David ran and stood upon the Philistine and took his Sword and drew it out of the Sheath thereof and slew him and cut off his Head therewith And when the Philistines saw their Champion was dead they fled And the Men of Israel and of Judah arose and shouted and pursued the Philistines c. 1 Sam. 17.51 52. A bundle of papers P. 1. 4 to being brought unto our hands by one of the chief Priests of Norwich which he hath rak't up in his Imaginations against the harmless people called Quakers and being full of lyes and deceit we are moved of the Lord for the truthes sake to cleare the truth from his lyes and deceit and false accusations and to lay him and his two propositions as he calls them open unto the simple minded who have been bewitched and deceived by such deceivers and blind guides as he is and put forth by one Sampson Townsend who calls himself a Minister of the Gospel and a Pastor of Saint Austins and Savours Parish in Norwich Priest THE Title of thy confused papers is † The Title of Mr. Townsend's Book The Scripture proved to be the word of God as also the only foundation of faith and rule of our obedience or a clear conviction of the errors of the quakers who blasphemously affirm that the Scriptures are not the word of God nor the foundation of Faith nor yet the only rule of our obedience to which lyes and falshoods we are moved to answer Answer The Quakers Answer THE Scriptures proved to be the word of God is false and one of the blind deceitful imaginations which thou and thy generation hath deceived people with telling them that that is the word which saith that God is the word who made himself manifest in the days of old before the Letter was which word was Moses rule who wrote forth Scripture and not the Letter but the word which word by which Moses was guided to speak forth Scripture and this is that word the Prophets prophesied of which dwelt amongst us P. 2. 4 to which was before the world was and seen before the Letter was written now with the same life and power by which the Scripture was spoken do we challenge thee to prove such a Scripture as saith that it is the word of God and thou that would make people believe that the Letter is the foundation would make void the foundation upon which the Prophets and Apostles were builded which spoke forth the Letter and thou that would build upon the Letter hateth the Light and the Foundation which is Christ from which the Letter was spoken and thy foundation and thy rule and obedience is tryed with it and by it thou art judged now that which is convicted by thy airy spirit is like unto thy self and is to be scorched up as the bryars but the children of light who are of God and in the truth cannot be convicted by such as thou art who from the light of God in thy Conscience is departed and with it art to be condemned so with the word and the life by which the Letter was declared thou art seen and comprehended to be an enemy unto that from which the Scripture was declared and here again I challenge thee to be a perverter of it notwithstanding all thy profession from it and whereas thou hast directed this confused paper unto us of whom thou hast described the names as followeth to Christopher Atkinson James Lancaster George Whitehead and Thomas Symonds now in Norwich Goale for their Errors and Miscarriages Priest Thou sayest if ever the truth of God were turned into a lye it is by us thou sayest that deny the Scriptures to be the truth of God and pretend immediate Revelations to be our rule for our actions and canst not produce any proof but the words of a dead Man like thy self which thou calls Mr. Burroughs to which we answer Answ By thee Priest Townsend is the truth of God turn'd into a lye and thou art taken with one in thy mouth who saith that we before mentioned are in the Goal of Norwich for errors and miscarriages here thou slanderer we challenge thee to prove what errors or miscarriages can be laid to our charge what is thy lyes and slanders that which you would make the people believe and are we counted deceivers for declaring the Truth and testifying against thee and thy generations as it is counted an error in us to unvail thy deceits and lay thee open to all men here in the presence of the Lord do we declare against thee for errors and miscarriages do we deny and this thy confused stuff wherein first thou sayest that we deny the Scripture to be the truth of God which is a lye as thy own words makes it manifest who in the same page of thy shameless discourse which now is laid open to the understanding of the Simple Priest And again thou sayest that we acknowledge the Scripture to be the truth and yet deny them to be the word of God here let all that sees thy confused paper judge thee who art in Babel where the confusion is and a minister of it Answ The Scripture we own as it was spoken forth by them that lived in the word and receive it as a Declaration of God and of what he spoke unto them of former ages Luke i.i. P. 3. 4 to but thy words and imaginations we do deny who would call that the word which saith God is the word and that the light which is not the light but saith Christ is the light which is thy condemnation that hates it in particular and the worlds condemnation that hates it in general as is made manifest who hates revelations and us who witness it shutting thy self forth from the Scriptures and from them that gave them forth whereas Christ saith no man knows the Father but the Son and to whom the Son will reveal him as thou may read Mat. ii 27. here thou hast plainly shewn thy self to be both without the knowledge of the Father and the Son who art in thy mediate natural knowledge which from the light
and now calls it reason which from reason was never spoken but holy men of God spoke them forth as they were moved by the holy Ghost now the Apostle which was as Minister of Christ never took wages of of the world neither did he compel them though to them he preached the Gospel and though he robbed other Churches yet he robbed not the world neither took he wages of the world nor hired with them for a certain time as thou and thy generation do and this was his boasting to cut off offences 2 Cor. 13.9 10 12. but with the light of God in the offences we find you who take wages of the world contrary to the Apostles whose practises judges you to be without their life whose entrance unto the Thessalonians he plainly doth declare that it was neither for pleasing men neither of deceit nor guile nor a cloak of covetousness neither was their Gospel burthensom as thou may read 1 Thess 2 3 4 5 6. contrary to which thou and thy generation art found in the steps of them Mark the Perversion Offences for occasion these are the Infallible Reformers the Prophets Christ and his Apostles cryed against as thou may read Isa 56. and Ier. 5. and Mic. 3. and Mat. 23. and 2 Pet. 2. and Iude 11. And this is the Gospel the Apostles preached which is witnessed by the same Spirit which to thee is hid and all thy generations who out of their steps are found walking in the steps of the false Priest Again thou sayest the Apostle intimates that God is mocked when his Ministers are not maintained and thou sayest that God will not be robbed Answ Here is another of thy lyes who perverts the Apostles words and art found adding thy lyes to Scripture when there is not such a word in all the Apostles words as intimate but thou and thy generation are seen to be both thieves and robbers who enters not in at the door but climbs up another way in your inventions consequences and imaginations which are here plainly seen and discovered to them that enter in at the door and for dishonest gain you destroy Souls Ezek. 22.25 26 27. P. 6. 4 to and as a Troop of Robbers wait for a man so do the company of Priests murther by consent Hosea 6.9 and are found Robbers of God as the false Prophets were who in the time of the Law took tythes and did not bring them to the store-house as thy generation now do as thou may read Mal. 3.8 9 10. Priest And thou says thy design according to promise is to prove the Scriptures to be the word of God the only ground of faith and rule for our obedience which thou sayest thou presented us with and bids us read it examine it if it be not truth witness against it by truth if it be so as undoubtedly you will find it truth as thou sayest and so bids us submit to it be ruled by it and undoubtedly our bodies shall be freed from our deserved Imprisonment Answ We have read it and examined it and thee both and have found thee to be a lyar and a denyer of the Word and of the rule and of the foundation which is Christ and with that which thou calls a rule and word and foundation art thou judged and with the light thou art seen to be a wrester of the Scriptures and thy Rotten foundation being already to fail thee The Holy Scriptures they say are a rotten foundation this is their Ancient Testimony from which they have not varied for it is among the blind Watchmen and greedy dumb Doggs and hirelings and among the thieves and robbers and among the Doggs and swine and filthy dreamers which the Scriptures speaks of and as for our deserved imprisonment here thou lyar do we challenge thee and them that imprisoned us to prove the breach of any law by us for they that did imprison us as many can witness could not charge us with the breach of any Law but by their wills to maintain such dumb shepherds as thou art for for the truths sake which witnesses against thee and all thy generation do we suffer for which thou and thy generation did never suffer imprisonment nor persecution of the world for ye are the world and the world speaks well of you and hears you as it did of your Fathers the false Prophets 1 John 4 5 and Luke 6.26 drunkards swearers lyars and thieves speaks well of you and fights for you and loves you and pleads for you and there is your fruits and freedom from our imprisonment will we never speak for in yielding to thy lyes and false accusations as is plainly here laid open Priest And thou sayest from thy study Ianuary 29. Answ Here thy filthy rotten stuff which thou hast been such a long time of gathering together in thy study it s tryed and seen to be fewel for the fire and thou art seen to study divinations of thy own brain and to be an inventer of lyes contrary to Scripture and where did ever any of the Saints go into a study and rake up such filthy stuff and invent such lyes as thou art disapproved in and with that which thou calls thy word thy foundation and only rule of obedience Here let the life of all the holy men of God judge thee to be both shut out of their life and out of the Scriptures Having returned answer to the former part of thy rotten stuff P. 7. 4 to Sampson Townsend wherein thy lies and deceit is uncovered to all them that have eyes to see may see thy nakedness and thy shame laid open now for the simple ones sake which thou by thy lyes and divinations makes a prey upon and through thy covetousness makes Merchandise of who pharisee-like would neither enter into the Kingdom thy self nor suffer others to enter in now for their sakes are we moved to unvail thee and thy deceit that they that see not might see thee in thy lyes and wresting the Scripture as thou hast also made it appear in the latter part of thy book wherein thou sayest Priest That thou hast undertaken against the Quakers these two Propositions i. that the Scriptures contained in the Old or New-Testament commonly called the Bible is the revealed will and word of God 2. That the Scripture which is the word of God is the only foundation of our Faith and only rule for our obedience which thou sayest thou wilt prove 1. by Scripture 2. by Reason and thou sayest that he that will not hear the voice of the Scriptures is an Infidel and he that will not hear the voice of reason is a beast Ans We who in scorn by thee and thy generations are called Quakers do own Scriptures but thee we utterly deny for an evill Beast whose mouth must be stopped Tit. i. 10 11 12. who in thy filthy reason art going about to maintain those things which thou canst not prove by any plain Scripture
but to it art found adding in thy reason and thy invention and therefore the plagues that are in it written is thy portion and the lake which is the portion of all lyars as thou art Rev. 21.8 Rev. 22.18 19. Priest Again thou sayest that the Scriptures ought to convince us as Christians reason as rational men Answ They that are Christians do see and comprehend thee and thy reason thy faith thy obedience thy rule thy foundation to be without the foundation and the word which was before thy inventions was and before Tuball Cain the inventer thy father was P. 8. 4 to in whose condition thou art and the word and foundation and the way was before the Beast and false Prophet was which thou art Isa 9.15 16. and this rule and foundation and worde did Moses David and the rest of the holy men of God witness who spoke forth Scripture which thou calls the word rule and foundation 1 Cor. 3.11 Psal 18.2.31.3 Here thou would make Moses David and the rest of the holy men of God who spoke forth Scripture blind like thy selfe both without the word rule and foundation Priest Now to prove the Scripture the word of God thou brings Exod. 20.1 Levit. 10.13 and many other Scriptures thou brings to the same effect how God spoke these words Answ Thou blind sot we challenge thee in the presence of the living God to prove in any of these * They deny the Scriptures to be the written Word of God This is their Ancient Testimony from which they are not changed they tell you so Scriptures that the Scriptures are the written word of God or else stop thy mouth thou evil beast and slow belly dost thou make no difference between the word and these words and here again wee charge thee to be a lyar and an adder to Scripture Priest And thou brings these Scriptures Isa 24.3 and Psal 125. and other Scriptures to the same purpose how the Lord saith and thus saith the Lord and Jer. 1.1 2.4.9 the words of Jeremiah to whom the word of the Lord came Answ And the word of the Lord that came to Joel Amos and others thou dreamer doth ever Isaiah Jeremiah or David or Joel or Amos or any of the holy men of God say that the Scripture is the written word whenas God who is the word John 1. spoke these words unto them whose voice thou never heard who spoke unto them before the Letter was written which is a declaration of what the word spoke unto them or was that paper and Ink or could it be contained in paper and Inke which came to the Prophets whenas Jeremiah saith the word is fire in his heart and a burning shut up in his bones and a hammer that breaks the rocks Jer. 20.9 Jer. 23.29 30. and behold I am against the Prophets saith the Lord that steal my word every one from his neighbors and behold I am against the Prophets saith the Lord that use their tongues and say he saith and behold I am against them saith the Lord that profess false dreams and tell them as thou dost and cause my People to erre by their lyes P. 9. 4 to and by their lightness yet I sent them not nor commanded them therefore they shall not profit the people at all saith the Lord and there thou art among the false Prophets and dreamers which Jeremiah who witnessed the word cryed wo against such Pastors as thou art Jer. 23.1 Priest Thou sayest thou shalt not need to mention the sayings and doing of our Saviour Christ which are frequently recorded in the New Testament and hence it is called the word of Christ and thou brings the Scripture Coloss 3.16 let the word of Christ dwel in you Answ Here again we challenge thee to be a lyar and an adder to the Scripture dost thou make no difference between death and life for Christ saith my words gives life and it was by his word that the dead was raised John 11. now that which Matthew Mark Luke and John wrote of Christ could not give life for that is called a Declaration of those things which was freely delivered among them Luke 1.1 and that thou calls the word which is death and killeth as thou may read 2 Cor. 3. and Paul was a Minister of the New-Testament and not of the Letter which thou calls the New-Testament ver 6. and this word which dwelt in the Saints they did neither call the Bible nor the Letter as thou dost here thou hast manifested thy self to be a blinde guide both ignorant of the Word and the Letter Priest Thou sayest that it is all one to say the Scripture saith and God saith Answ Thou blasphemous beast dost thou make no difference between the Scripture and God or is the Scripture God * God who is the Word so they do not distinguish the Father from the Son i. e. the Second Person of the Trinity when the Scripture saith God who is the word was in the beginning and by him was all things made and this was before the Scriptures was written John 1.1 which thou would make thy God of and here let all that reads this see thy blasphemie Priest Again thou sayest the word Scripture is put for God speaking in the Scripture and thou brings Joshua 1.5 Answ Let all that reads that Scripture Judge and condemn thee to be a Lyar for it speaks not such a word as God speaking in the Scripture Priest Again the same page thou sayest that all the rest that is written in the volume is but a comment or exposition of those ten precepts Answ Thou diviner where dost thou prove such a Scripture as comment was that which the Prophets Christ and his Apostles spoke out a comment or exposition here again we charge thee Priest Townsend to be an inventer and a deviser of lyes P. 9. 4 to which thou hast no Scripture for Priest Again thou sayest that thus it appears that the Scriptures are the word of God because God writ them and caused them to be written Answ That which is written is the Letter which is death and killeth 2 Cor. 3.16 but the word is living Heb. 4.12 there again with the Scipture thou art disaproved to be a lyar Priest Again in another page thou sayest that the Scriptures are called the counsel of God the will of the Lord the mystery of Gods will and thou bring these Scriptures Rom. 3.2 1 Pet. 4.11 Acts 20.27 Psal 33.11 and Pro. 19.21 Ephes 5.17 and to conclude this thou sayest that God himself calls the Scriptures his word and to maintain that thou brings Zach. 1.6 Answ Let all that reads these * Here Mr. Townsend is together with the Holy Scripture judged and condemned behold their Ancient Testimony Scriptures see thee to be a perverter of Scripture and adds thy inventions to them for they that spoke forth these Scriptures knew the Counsell of God and the mystery and the Gospell
which to thee is hid whom the God of this world hath blinded thy eyes and out of the mystery and Gospel and rule and foundation thou art with that which thou calls the only rule and word and foundation art thou judged and with light seen and condemned to be an inventer of lies and a deceiver of the blind but no further canst thou proceed for thy folly shall be made manifest to all men Priest In a second reason of thine thou sayest the antiquity of the Scriptures do clearly prove them to be of God for man could never write of things done before he had a being but the works of the five first dayes Creation are mentioned in Scripture but man was not made till the sixt day therefore they must needs be the word of God Answ Here thou blind Beast who art ignorant of God who makes antiquity as thou calls it the perfect knowledge of God and sayes that man could not declare of things before ever he had a being and so would make people believe that the Scripture reveal God thou blind Beast whether was man or the Scriptures first and whether did God make himself manifest unto and thou that sayest that the Scripture reveal God thou art a lyar for God revealed himself to Moses before the Scripture was written and Moses was the first pen-man of the Scripture was 14 Generations after the fall and yet he wrote of things before the fall was and thy father Cain was before Moses was and yet he knew no Scripture and thou that would make the Letter the light and way of knowing God are not so much as a Minister of the Letter and here thou art made manifest to be in the fall in the death which past over all men before Moses was and are not come to fee the first Days VVork to see light divided from darkness and here let all the Prophets and holy men of God judge thee with the Light from which thou art erred for they wrote of Christ and saw his day many Generations before he came in the flesh and here thy antiquity and thy reasons and the three persons thou dreams of which thou would divide out of one like a Conjurer are all denied and thou shut up with them in perpetual darkness for the lake and the pit for thou hast no Scripture that mentions such things * This is their Ancient Testimony to damn the Blessed Trinity to the Pit of Hell P. 11. 4 to Piest And where thou art telling that the Scripture converts the Soul and works Grace and the opening thereof make hearts to tremble and says that Scripture discovers mens thoughts and makes Laws for them Answ Here thou hast made thy self manifest where did ever any of the holy men of God say that the Scriptures converts the Soul or make Laws for mens thoughts and what is that which opens the Scripture or where is it if the bare Letter convert the Soul here thou Priest of Baal for that is thy name thy lyes are made manifest and deceits laid open to the children of the Light and art seen with the light from which the Scripture was spoken Priest Again thou sayest the Scripture speaks to all men alike but thus do not the word of man therefore thou sayest they are the word of God Ans But thou thy self and thy generation are perverters of the Scripture and are respectors of persons for you are called of men Master stands praying in the Synagogues has the chiefest places in the assemblies and the greeting in the Markets and are pleading for cap and knee and says we do not reverence Magistrates because we do not put off our hats and bend our knees as thou and the rest of thy generation of Hypocrits do who have mens persons in admiration because of advantage Iude 16. and this which you calls the word speaks not to all men alike for wo is pronounced in it to such as thou art who art found in the steps of the false Prophets and Scribes and Pharisees and goes in the way of Cain to envie and after the error of Balaam for gifts and rewards which wo was never pronounced to the righteous and wo unto thee thou lyar who art a wrester of Scripture to thy own destruction and art found with so many Lyes as thou hast here uttered Priest In another place thou sayest no Creature Angels men or Devils if all were put together in one could ever declare before-hand what particular person should be born and what should be their names in so many thousands yeers before their birth Ans Here thou art taken with another lye with which thou hast stuffed up this thy confused Book for both by Angels and Men was Iesus Christ the Son of God prophesied of Moses who was many years before Christ came in the flesh prophesied of Christ and said like unto me will God raise up a Prophet him shall the People hear Mat. 1.17 see if thou can number the year of all these generations which prophesied of Christ and when Christ came he saith before Abraham was I am thus art thou known and comprehended with the truth which all thy fathers and generations past persecuted so be ashamed and stop thy mouth for ever Priest In that thou calls thy two propositions 1. thou sayest the Scriptures are the means by which faith is wrought and to prove that ly thou brings Rom. 10.17 Ans Shame cover thy face thou full of rottenness and filthy dreams Scriptures not a means to work Faith This is their Ancient Testimony where did thou ever read in Scripture that it is the means whereby faith is * P. 12. 4 to wrought when that Scripture saith faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word here thou art deaf and never heard the word and thy faith and word is without but the word of faith which we preach is nigh in the heart and mouth Rom. 10.8 therefore search thou the Scripture with the Saduces who knew not Christ for in them thou and thy generation thinks to have eternal life but ye will not come unto Christ that ye may have life Iohn 5.38 39 40. Priest Again thou sayest that the Scripture which thou calls the word is an everlasting rule so long as we live on earth The Scripture which Mr. Townsend calls the Foundation of Faith in the Mire and Dirt. Ans Thou blind sot see thy confusion can that Letter be everlasting while we live upon earth here thou hast shewed thy reason where it is that they that are not stark blind may see thee thy reason and thy foundation to be in the mire and dirt and may see thee to be a senceless natural bruit Beast who with thy lyes art made to be taken and destroyed 2 Pet. 2.13 Priest And again thou sayest the most eminent believer sin in many things Ans Here is the end of thy teaching here is thy rule and here is thy foundation and here is
Dead and Buried that he Rose again the third Day and Ascended into Heaven and there sits at the Right Hand of God making Intercession for us Sinners who lay hold on him by Faith and live in Obedience to him his Laws Institutions and Precepts in the Gospel left upon Record by the Four Evangelists Matthew Mark Luke and John and others of his Apostles in their Epistles And that we ought to Worship and Adore him together with God the Father and the Holy Ghost Three Persons and One God in the Unity of his Essence This is the Trinity in Unity of the Father Son and Holy Ghost which is One God blessed for evermore And this is that Common Christianity which I mean that the Quakers Principles are so destructive to Now the next thing I am to tell at the Prayer and Request of John Feild is Wherein and whereby their Principles are Destructive c. I. The Quakers deny Jesus of Nazareth who was Born of the Virgin and Suffered at Jerusalem to be the Son of God II. That they account him only a Vail a Garment an outward Vessel and can as their Books teach never call him Christ and that his Blood was no better than the Blood of another Saint III. They teach that their Sufferings are greater and more unjust than the Sufferings of Christ his Apostles and Martyrs in all Ages since For that as they teach the Sufferings of Christ and his Army of Martyrs were inflicted by a Law and in great part by the due Execution of a Law IV. That such are False Ministers who bid People believe in Jesus Christ as he is in Heaven above at God's Right Hand and that by Preaching Christ in Heaven the Devil gets his Work done on Earth V. They teach That G. Fox was their great Apostle which said thus of himself I am the Light of the World him by whom the World was made and doth inlighten every Man that cometh into the World VI. They teach That the Name Jesus and Christ belongs to every Believer as well as to the Head Christ that Suffered Died Rose again c. VII And thereupon they teach That he that hath the same Spirit that raised Jesus from the Dead is equal with God VIII And in coherence with this Doctrine their Prophet Sol. Eccles taught That Geo. Fox was a Prophet indeed And that as it was said of Christ He was in the World and the World was made by him and the World knew him not So it might be said of G. Fox as in the 5th Instance XI They teach That G. Fox was the Father of many Nations that his Being and Habitation was in the Power of the highest that he Ruled and Governed in Righteousness that his Kingdom is established in Peace and that of the Increase thereof there was never to be an End X. They teach That the Holy Scriptures are not the written Word of God but contrarywise that they are Dust Death Serpents Meat Beastly Ware but that their own Writings are the Word of God given forth by Divine Iuspiration and that they as such are of greater Authority than the Bible and thereupon read them in their Meetings for Divine Worship whilst they never read in any such Meeting this Fifty Year one Chapter of the Bible either in the Old or New Testament For they teach They are not the means to work Faith in the Heart but are a Rotten Foundation XI They teach That Circumcision is as much in force as Water-Baptism and the Paschal Lamb as Bread and Wine and their disuse of these two Ordinances for this Fifty Years shew that they reject them and allows not of them XII And touching the Doctrine of the Blessed Trinity they are so far from owning it as that they Damn them to the Pit of Hell as in G. Whitehead's Book Ishmael c. herein Reprinted may he seen Now John I having Replied to your Book A Defence of an Apology c. i. e. to the principal parts of it and shewed your Falacies and shallow Subterfuges as well as in some places answered your Request I rest desiring that your self and your People may Consider of it Repent of your Errors Retract and Condemn the same and Pray to God and the Nation to forgive you in which I shall join with you And in this you will have no cause to cry out of Persecution who am your Friend Fran. Bugg An Humble Address to His Majesty King WILLIAM III. over England c. by one of the Meanest yet most Dutiful Subject FRANCIS BUGG May it please your Most Excellent Majesty I Cannot but with great Joy and Comfort Remember your Majesties Repeated Assurances given to your Loving Subjects of your Majesties Care and Christian Zeal for the Protestant Religion as by Law established in this Kingdom by your many and repeated Speeches to your Parliaments and particularly by your late Gracious Proclamation consisting of two Parts In which your Majesties Pious Zeal has been abundantly manifest First Against Vice and Prophaneness and Secondly Against such Books as contain in them Impious Doctrine against the Holy Trinity and other Fundamental Articles of the Christian Faith and therein have given Encouragement to all your Loving Subjects to discover the Authors of such Books Wherefore in Obedience to your Majesties Royal Command as well as my Duty therein to God I have herein Reprinted one of the Quakers Books of which Geo. Whitehead is one of the Authors to the intent that your Sacred Majesty and the whole Kingdom may be presented with a Specimen of the Quakers Doctrine And do most Humbly Pray in the Name of the Church of England and other your Majesties Dissenting Protestants that such Care may be taken to suppress the same with others of their Books of the same Narure as to your Royal Wisdom shall seem meet And as it pleased God Almighty to give King Solomon Wisdom to Execute Justice so will he endue the King with an Understanding Heart to Judge who is in the wrong and to Punish accordingly And in this case let not the King Respect Persons in Judgment but if I be not able to maintain my Charge then let me bear his Majesties Displeasure and suffer what Punishment shall be due for the same But if I do make good my Charge then do as seems good in your Eye Thus with all Dutiful Submission do I Sign this my Humble Address this 13th Day of December 1699. Francis Bugg FINIS A Catalogue of Books wrote by Fran. Bugg 1. DE Christiana Libertate c. in 8 vo bound 2. The Painted Harlot stript and whipt c. 4 to 3. Reason against Railing c. 4 to 4. Innocency Vindicated c. 4 to never Answered 5. The Quakers Detected and their Errors Confuted c. 4 to 6. A Letter to the Quakers shewing their frequent Addresses to and Prayers for the late King Jam. II. and not to King Will. III. 7. Battering Rams against New Rome c. 4
are not in me I 'll break you in pieces I the Light in you will consume it all I 'll Burn Heaven and Earth I 'll burn within and without I the Light will overturn Kingdoms and Nations and Rulers of all sorts and Armies and gathered Churches which will not own me the Light in them to Guide and Lead them And I will be your Dread and ye shall be the Dread of Nations And ye shall Reign over all the World I will give you Dominion over all your Enemies within and without and I will make them all bow before you and even as I am i. e. God so shall ye be also Reader from hence we may gather what Harangues they have in their Yearly Meeting when their Doors are close and secure where they revive and re-assert their Ancient Testimonies but their Trumpet gives such an uncertain sound as none know but themselves how to prepare to the Battel you hear now that their Light within is God the Eternal God by whom all things were made and created and besides their Light within there is no God that can save and yet sometimes they Speak to their Light and Teach their Light even their Eternal God For this see their Book The Vials of the Wrath of God c. by G. Fox Printed 1655 p. 6. Therefore to the Light in your Consciences do I speak c. Sometimes their Light is Honest that is they have an Honest God For this see their Book The Trumpet of the Lord Blown c. by James Parnel p. 2. To the Light in all your Consciences I speak which is Honest of God Sometimes their God is Blind or Dim-sighted for this see G. Fox's News coming up out of the North c. The God of the World blind your Eye which is the Light Thus have the Quakers like the Gibeonites deceived many Thousands But hark George I have not yet done with your Guilty Excuse In your Innocency and Truth Vindicated c. p. 69. viz. We says George are only Defensive c. How George What only Defensive That I do deny and shall now make it appear That from first to last you have been the Aggressors altho' at present you are so close Attackt that you begin to call for a Cessation of Arms. But George we are now for Reparation or else no Quarter It is not your Excuse That the Clergy in Oliver's time were no Ministers of Christ nor your Flattering the Episcopal Clergy will now do unless you condemn your Erroneous Books See J. Feild's Defence c. If Francis Bugg accounts those Ministers of Christ that turned and kept the Bishops out of their Bishopricks how can he have the Face says Feild to own himself a Member of the Church of England In this J. Field thinks he hits the Mark but with a Reverse for John I do believe that in Oliver's time there was a Christian Ministry of Learned Clergy-men And one Reason among others which make me so believe is because they wrote many sound Orthodox Books against Quakerism and the Quakers as they began so they kept on against them And that you are still as great Enemies to the present Clergy as you were against them I shall shew anon But I have not yet done with your Brother Whitehead who with a mealy Modesty simpers it out That you Quakers are now only Defensive you are for an Amicable and Friendly Conversation and no Lovers of Contention Oh meek Saints But hark George did not the Quakers first Challenge the Norffolk Clergy I say yea and shall prove it from the Words of your Letter viz. If you think you have Matter to charge us Quakers withal let us have your Charge under your own Hands and appoint Time and Place convenient and we or some others of us will meet you as publickly as you please Any of you all Of your Cloth And stand a Publick Tryal c. By which 't is self-evident that the Quakers Challenged the Clergy and if I mistake not very boldly too considering the many gross Errors and horrid Blasphemies you stand charged with and convicted of out of your most Authentick Writers And for you yea I say for such a Tribe of Self-Condemned Schismaticks to prick up your Ears and to Challenge the most Learned Clergy the World have and who are Ministers of the most Reformed Religion and of an Established Church by Law I think this was bold with a witness But come George let us go back to your Beginning and take our Measures from thence for you would not have us take you for Changlings You know Quakerism is the same and the Principles of it even what it always was and will be to the End of the Chapter For one single Instance of which I could give many See your Prophet Burroughs's Epistle prefixed to George Fox's Great Mystery c. viz. Then being prepared of the Lord and having received Power from on high we went forth as commanded of the Lord And the dread of the Lord went before us and behind us and first of all our Mouths were opened and our Spirits filled wih Indignation against the Priests and Teachers and with them and against them First we began to War as being the Causers of the People to err and the Blind Leaders that carried the Blind into the Ditch And against them as the Fountain of all Wickedness abounding in the Nations and as being the Issue of Prophaneness Shewing unto all them and to all their People that they were not Lawful Ministers of Christ sent of him but were Deceivers and Antichrists and such whom the Lord never sent And we spared not publickly and at all Seasons to utter forth the Judgments of the Lord against them and their Ways and their Churches and Worships And this was our first Work which we entred upon to Thresh down the Deceivers and lay them open that all People might come to see their Shame and turn from them c. Thus then it plainly appears that the Quakers began this Contest and have carried it on in the same domineering and insulting manner until of late And nothing makes you pull in your Horns but the Discovery of your Bloody Treasonable Seditious and Blasphemous Principles and Practices And as a Third Instance that you are as Implacable Enemies to the present Establisht Church Ministry Scriptures and Ordinances as you were in your dear Friend Oliver Cromwell's Time as your Apostle Fox Saluted him I shall cite some few of the Reasons you give why you deny the National Ministry even in 1671 as more at large you may see in your Book wrote by George Fox intituled Some Principles of the Elect People of God called Quakers Printed 1671 p. 5. viz. Grounds and Reasons why we deny the Worlds Teachers I. THEY i. e. the Publick Ministry are such Teachers as have told us the Letter was the Word when the Letter says God was the Word therefore we deny them John 1.1 Query Where do
thy obedience and here is thy fruits and here is thy service who commits Sin and a Servant to Sin and free from righteousness Iohn 8.24 Rom. 16.20 Oh thou blasphemer and slanderer of the just when wilt thou cease from thy Lyes and Blasphemy where dost or canst thou prove such a Scripture as the most emminent believer Sin in any things when the Scripture saith he that believeth is born of God and he that is born of God sinneth not for whosoever sinneth hath not seen him neither known him and he that committeth sin is of the Devil and there 's thy condition and he is thy Father who is the Father of all lyars as thou art i. Iohn 3.3 4 5 6 7 8. Priest And to conclude thy filthy rotten stuff thou sayest they that make not the word of God the rule for their actions are led either by their own fancies or the Devils temptations or both Ans Thee Priest Townsend art here laid open and thou art uncovered and here thou art found to be a denyer of the word and rule and foundation and thou art led by thy dreams and fancies and thy foundation * Viz. The Holy Scritures is in the dust and thou art reserved in everlasting chains under darkness for everlasting fire and here thou in all these thy lyes are shut our from God and all the Children of God among the Doggs and Sorcerers and the Lake is thy portion which is the portion of all lyars Iude 6 7 8. thus have we returned a full answer unto thy senceless stuff and in plainness have we dealth with thee and have not flattered thee at all there call it not railing lest thou violate the Scriptures so with the word of truth thou art tryed and comprehended and us shalt thou witness eternally when the book of Conscience comes to be opened and thou judged out of it so we remain Sufferers for the truth and witnesses against thee and thy generation Named according to the flesh George Whitehead Christopher Arkinson James Lancaster Thomas Symonds A Cutting Switch FOR THE Wounded Snake I have used Similitudes Hos 12.10 READER BY the Word Snake which I use by way of Metaphor alluding to the Quakers obscure way of Reasoning evermore hiding themselves in the dark by their Ambiguous and Doubtful Way of expressing themselves in their Unintelligible Way of Writing is what I call Quakerism and having taken this Snake Quakerism out of the Grass and laid her on the Table and taken out her Sting I am now coming to exercise my Switch which I lately twisted out of Jos-Wyeth's Hand as David did the Sword out of the Hand of that uncircumcised Philistine Goliah of Gath which he design'd to wound the Israelites with for this Joseph like blind Hob playing at Blind-Man's-Buff smiting every Man that passed by without all Fear or Respect being Fool hardy I was resolved to unarm him and take his Weapon from him for like Goliah's Sword there is none like it And whereas this Water-Snake has swam over Sea I am minded to send this Switch thither also that so where-ever her Spawn is gone rattling up and down in other Nations and Plantations this Switch may pursue her and deal severely or cuttingly with her for she has done much Harm And now I shall tell what is the Cause of this Snake's Fury which is as on the Title Page of this Third Part and where you may see she put forth her Sting against Mr. Townsend for that he like other Christian Champions went to prove the Holy Scriptures to be the Word of God for this the Rattle-Snake came out of his Thicket and flung out his Deadly Poyson at Mr. Townsend thus Ishmael and his Mother cast out among the Beasts c. calling him a Dreamer a Deceiver a Witch a Liar a blind Guide without Christ and his Knowledge an Enemy of God an Antichrist a blind Sot a sottish blind Guide shut up in perpetual Darkness Blasphemous Beast as in P. 7 8 10 14 17 25 29. Thus Reader having shewed thee the Cause of the Dragon's Fury and the Ground why he threw out his Floods of Malice against the Gospel Ministers I shall next shew thee in short a few Words to Confirm what I have said and that out of the Snake's own Mouth as in P. 14 17 24. first That the Scriptures are not the written Word of God but a Rotten Foundation not the Means to work Faith in the Heart And because Mr. Townsend in Opposition to the Quakers Heretical Doctrine had proved the Scriptures to be the written Word of God and as such a good Foundation for our Faith in our Crucified Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ and the Means to work Faith in our Hearts which works by Love Oh how did Geo. Whitehead and his Partners hiss like Snakes sting like Adders and roar like Dragons calling him as before noted Dreamer Deceiver Witch Liar blind Guide Enemy to God Antichrist Sot blind Sot Blasphemous Beast shut up in perpetual Darkness with other the like Virulent Railing and Hellish Malice And this Reader is a Map of the Original Controversie between the Clergy and the Quakers for with them the Scriptures are Death Dust Carnal and Killing Serpents Meat Beastly Ware a Rotten Foundation For alas they have no need of the Scripture with them the Holy Scriptures are needless as I shall just now shew See Isaac Pennington's Book stiled Some things relating to the Royal Society c. p. 7. Now observe the Difference between the Religion which God hath taught us and led us into and the Religious of all Men upon the Earth besides our Religion stands wholly out of that which all their Religions stands in their Religion stands in the Comprehension in a Belief of a Literal Relation or Description our Religion stands in a Principle which changeth the Mind where we hear the Voice and see the express Image of the Heavenly One i. e. God and knows things not from an Outward Relation yea here say they we must profess that we so know things that we are fully satisfied about them and could not doubt concerning them tho' there had Never been Word or Letter written of them c. And to this agrees the Doctrine of Edward Burroughs in his Epistle to Fox's Great Mystery p. 17. and many other Places I could mention but I study Brevity But Reader I have not done with this Snake but must have the other Blow at her and smite off her Head lest she get into the King's High Court of Parliament and do mischief for she is mischievous Beast and full of deadly Poyson and begins to stink all the Nation over and the Cause why I shall give this Mortal Wound to this Rattle Snake which so often changes her Skin while she is the same with respect to her Venomous Nature that she was at her first Rise Anno 1650. I say the Cause is this Whereas Mr. Townsend of Norwich having proved the Scriptures
to be as indeed they are the written Word of God and a good Foundation for our Faith and a great Means to work Faith in our Hearts all which George Whitehead and his Partners opposed with great Vigor he Mr. Townsend having first proved these things he then goes on to prove a Trinity of Three distinct Persons in the Godhead according to the Faith of all sound Christians and for Proof thereof he does not only bring Scripture but many strong Reasons as well from Antiquity as of later Date To all which George Whitehead c. from the Spirit of their Lord in them as in p. 22. And here thy Antiquity and thy Reasons and the Three Persons thou dreams of which thou would divide out of one like a Conjurer are all denied and thou shut up with them in perpetual Darkness for the Lake and the Pit c. adding by way of Corroberation respecting Mr. Townsend p. 26. thus Thou Townsend art Reserved in Everlasting Chains under Darkness for Everlasting Fire shut out from God among the Dogs and Sorcerers Having by this time not only discovered the Snake but given her a deadly Blow I shall next shew that the Quakers respecting their Principles are the same that ever they were only I am in Hopes they shall never do so much Hurt in a Hundred Years as they have done in Fifty the time of their date The Sting of Quakerism being taken out and the Bowels thereof ript up and their Inside turn'd Outward by many Infallible Proofs out of their Impious Books especially by Reprinting one of them but let us not be too secure lest the deadly Wound which she hath received should be healed and my Counsel is that as Persecution never did Good so may it not be used amongst Christians but yet a good Expedient is very proper which is to have them examined whether these things be so or no and if what has been objected against them be proved upon them let them be obliged to Retract and Condemn these their Ancient Blasphemous and Heretical Books and Pamphlets which have poysoned many Thousands of otherwise well-meaning People and as this will be easie so will it be one effectual Means to stop the Gangrene of this Pestilential Disease and this will be no Persecution POSTSCRIPT AND to shew that the Quakers are the same still notwithstanding their contrary Testimonies I shall recite some few Passages out of their Writings viz. I. In their Yearly Epistle 1696. We cannot say they but recommend unto you our dear Brethren the holding up the Holy Testimony of Truth which hath made us to be a People and that in all Parts of it * Then in Damning the Blessed Trinity for Truth is one II. The Quakers cleared c. p. 7. God is the same Truth is the same his People the same and their Principles the same III. Their Primitive Christianity c. Printed 1698. p. 6. Our Principles are now no other than what they were when we were first a People IV. They have inserted a long Paragraph in the Post-Man Numb 568. saying The Quakers not questioning but to acquit their Ancient Friends and their Writings not being Conscious of deviating in any one Point of Doctrine from what they first held † And what they held in 1655. G. W.'s Book Ishmael gives a Sample for they are all of a Piece V. But Jesuit-like G. W. thus saith in his Count. Conv. p. 72. I may says he see Cause otherwise to word the Matter and yet our Intentions be the same c. FINIS A Reply to a Book Entituled A Defence of an Apology for the Quakers in Answer to a Book Entituled Quakerism Expos'd c. wrote by Fran. Bugg Or some Papers delivered to the King and Parliament PART III. I Have read and consider'd this Book of John Field's A Defence c. in Answer to the Books and Papers aforesaid but how far his Book answers his Titlte will best be understood by comparing both For in J. Feild's Book of 32 Pages in Quarto I find but 35 Lines of mine cited which is not one Page of 64 of mine in Octavo and that not pag'd and thereby difficult for his Readers to find in order to compare the Books a right Trick of a Quaker Now how this can rightly be call'd an Answer is a Paradox to me but however an Answer they must have tho' nothing almost to the purpose and then tell their poor Hearers Fr. Bugg's Book is answered Ay that it is nay and repeatedly too tho' I do not know of one single Book of mine so answered by the Quakers but that they have left untouched the greatest Part of the Charges objected against them and Six or Seven Books of mine never so much as pretended to be answer'd Oh the Polacy and Deceit of the Ringleaders of this Sect And this has occasioned me to give and take this Advice from a wise and prudent Caution in a Book Entituled The Missionaries Arts c. wrote against the Jesuits Printed 1668. p. 32. viz. To distrust every thing they say For as the Learned Dr. Stillingfleet late Bishop of Worcester in his Discourse of the Idolatry of the Church of Rome c. p. 282. very well observes that they are as like as if the Quakers and the Jesuits were Children of one Father and brought forth by one Mother even Mystery Babylon the Mother of Harlots and Cage of every Unclean and Hateful Bird His Words are these viz. Any who compares them i. e. Jesuits and Quakers would imagine the Life of Ignatius Loyola had been their great Exemplar I know not said the Bishop whether any of that Innocent and Religious Order or Jesuits had any Hand in forming this new Society of Quakers among us as hath been frequently suggested but if one may guess the Father by the Child's Likeness Ignatius Loyola the Founder of the Jesuits was at least the Grandfather of the Quakers c. And as I do believe the recited Caution To distrust every thing they i. e. Jesuits say 't is as applicable to the Quakers and to demonstrate this let us but observe how frequent it is with them to blame their Opponents with splitting Sentences mincing mangling and curtailing whilst themselves are ten times more guilty for instance I find a Passage in my Book Quakerism Expos'd c. p. 27 28. 4thly That you Quakers value the Scriptures above any Books in the World This is false with a Witness when you in Print tell us we may as well burn the Bible as your Writings Truths Defence p. 2 104. calling the Scriptures Dust Death Serpents Meat Beastly Ware and that Preaching out of them is Conjuration And G. Whitehead tells us in his Book Truth defending the Quakers c. p. 7. That what is spoken by the Spirit of Truth in any is of as great Authority as the Scriptures and Chapters are and greater And many of your Books nay even that are said to be given