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A20944 A defence of the Catholicke faith contained in the booke of the most mightie, and most gracious King Iames the first, King of Great Britaine, France and Ireland, defender of the faith. Against the answere of N. Coeffeteau, Doctor of Diuinitie, and vicar generall of the Dominican preaching friars. / Written in French, by Pierre Du Moulin, minister of the word of God in the church of Paris. Translated into English according to his first coppie, by himselfe reuiewed and corrected.; Defense de la foy catholique. Book 1-2. English Du Moulin, Pierre, 1568-1658.; Sanford, John, 1564 or 5-1629. 1610 (1610) STC 7322; ESTC S111072 293,192 506

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est_fw-la i_o do_v not_o gainsay_v it_o for_o peradventure_o the_o thing_n may_v be_v true_a origen_n be_v the_o inventor_n of_o this_o fire_n a_o man_n condemn_v by_o other_o of_o the_o father_n for_o that_o he_o do_v not_o acknowledge_v hell_n nor_o eternal_a fire_n and_o hold_v that_o the_o devil_n and_o wicked_a man_n shall_v after_o a_o time_n of_o purgation_n be_v final_o save_v but_o in_o this_o he_o have_v be_v follow_v that_o he_o hold_v that_o the_o purgation_n of_o soul_n begin_v at_o the_o day_n of_o the_o resurrection_n and_o be_v do_v by_o the_o fire_n of_o the_o last_o day_n of_o judgement_n that_o be_v the_o purgatory_n of_o the_o father_n of_o which_o s._n jerome_n speak_v in_o the_o last_o line_n of_o his_o commentary_n upon_o esay_n and_o upon_o the_o 46._o of_o ezechiel_n and_o gregory_n nyssenus_n in_o his_o oration_n of_o they_o that_o be_v fall_v asleep_a for_o so_o far_o be_v they_o from_o believe_v that_o the_o soul_n separate_v from_o the_o body_n be_v purge_v 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