in Christ by this Frierly glosse it is not enough vnlesse he also beleeue the Pope to be Christs Vicar Euen like as these Romanists would haue all Churches depend vpon Rome in the West so the Donatists being caried with the like humour did contend for the South that the Church of God was onely to be found in Africa thereto abusing that text Cantic 1.6 Vbi pascis vbi cubas meridie Where feedest thou and liâ—st at noone or in the South as they interpreted By the same reason saith Augustine Marcion vpon that text Psal. 48.2 Mons Sion latera Aquilonis Mount Sion the sides of the North might also chalenge a priuiledge for the North quia ponticus dicitur fuisse quae partes ad Aquilonem sunt Because he is said to haue been of Pontus which is toward the North. As these Heretikes did striue for the South and North so the Luciferians would haue the Church of God onely at Sardis in the East vnto whom Hierome saith Non ob Sardorum tantum mastrucam filium Dei descendisse That the sonne of God did not only descend for a Sardish mantill that is to saue onely the Sardians Euen so did hee not onely die to redeeme the Romanes Yea if any sect among Christians haue diuided and cut themselues off from Christ the Papists that chalenge most to be priuiledged are most like to be excluded 1. Idolaters shall not inherit the kingdome of heauen 1. Cor. 6.9 such are Papists notoriously knowne to be 2. Heresies also doe shut men out from the kingdome of God Galath 5.20.21 But the Church of Rome holdeth and professeth many apparant heresies as euen now shall be shewed 3. The Apostle saith Ye are abolished from Christ whosoeuer are iustified by the lawe Galath 5.4 But the Papists do seeke to be iustified by the righteousnes of the lawe for these are their owne words True iustice is by keeping the lawe Rhemist in 2. Rom. sect 5.4 The scripture saith If any man shall adde vnto these things I will adde vnto him the plagues written in this booke Reuel 21.18 They which adde vnto the scriptures can not be saued Such are the Papists that beside the written word do receiue many traditions which they call verbum Dei non scriptum the word not written By these and sundrie other reasons which might be produced the pope-catholike is found to haue the least part in Christ vnlesse they do reuoke their errors and repent them of their misbeliefe 3 True it is that Christ will so preserue his Church and euery faithfull member thereof from error as that they shall not fayle in the foundation but as to infirmities of life so to errors of doctrine which are not fundamentall euen the true Church of Christ is subiect till God by his word do otherwise teach them as the Apostle saith if ye be otherwise minded God shall reueale the same vnto you But concerning any particular visible Church such as the Romane and the Latine Church is it is vntrue that it is absolutely preserued froÌ„ error but so long only and so farre-forth as it doth yeeld and submit it selfe to be guided by the direction of Gods word For what priuiledge hath one locall Church more then an other What can Rome challenge more for it selfe then Ephesus Sardis Smyrna and the other Churches of Asia to whom our Sauiour directed his Epistles Reuel 2.3 whose candlesticks are now remoued The earthlie Ierusalem had greater assurance for their continuance and more ample promises then euer Rome had for the Psalme testifieth thus the Lord hath chosen Sion and loueth to dwell in it saying this is my rest for euer yet is Sion now forsaken and Ierusalem become desolate for the promise is conditionall if thy sonnes keepe my couenants c. v. 12. Let not reachles Rome therefore presume before Ierusalem euen vnto the Romanes doth the Apostle speake if God spared not the naturall branches take heed least he also spare not thee Let the Romanists therefore take heed least it happen vnto them as vnto the Iewes as Origene saith alapa Christum caedentes alapam aeternam receperunt ab omni prophetia percussi priuati for giuing Christ a blow they receiued an euerlasting blow being shaken from and depriued of all prophesie The like deadlie stroke proud Rome must expect to be depriued of all propheticall spirite and true iudgement for striking and persecuting Christ in his members 4 Vntrue also it is that the Church of Rome hath condemned and extirped 400. heresies seeing that it may easily be proued that it doth maintaine at this present one hundred at the least of those auncient heresies which haue bene in former time condemned by Irenaeus Tertullian Hierome Augustine Epiphanius Damascene and other of the Fathers From Marcellina the companion of Carpocrates they haue receiued the adoration of Images of the Heracleonites extreame vnction with the Tatians they condemne mariage with the Pepuzians they allow women to be priests in that they authorise them to baptize with the Catharists that some are so iust that they neede no repentance with the Angelici they worship Angels with the Apostolici they admit none to orders as they did not to their communion that had wiues with the Hierarchites they haue brought in Monks and Nunnes with the Euchites canonicall houres with the Priscillianists they make Apocryphall writings equall to the scriptures with the Anthropomorphites they picture God the Father like an old man from the Pelagians they haue borrowed free-will from the Manichees the prohibiting of the eating of flesh Many such heresies are without any wresting or forcing fastned vpon the Romish professors as a learned writer of our Church hath alreadie challenged and charged them with fiftie heresies and another hath proued them guiltie of fortie more and so many as want of an hundred shall be supplied shortlie and the number made vp in the enlarging of the last recited worke as God shall giue strength and abilitie thereunto 5 Neither is it true that diuers generall Councels where the whole Christian world was assembled haue anathematized and condemned the religion of Protestants for whereas in the margent he referreth vs to the Concil Constant. Concil Florentin in Vnion Concil Trident. the first of these by our aduersaries confession was not a generall Councell for whereas Sess. 4. of the Councell of Constance it was decreed that the Pope ought to be subiect vnto the authoritie of a generall Councell Bellarmine telleth vs Non erat tum generale Concilium c. It was not then a generall Councell when as the third part only of the Church was present only those prelates which were vnder the obedience of Pope Iohn if it were not generall in the 4. session neither was it in the 8. session wherein the opinions of Wickliffe and Hus were condemned As for the Florentine
to his owne priuate deduction and deceitfull iudgement ibid. lin 27. If this fellow were not past all feare of God and shame of man he would haue trembled thus to haue blasphemed the seruants of God Paganish infidelitie Atheisme and Epicurisme we detest Iudaicall ceremonies and superstitions we haue renounced with popish trash No man is permitted of his owne head to coyne a new faith The word of God is a rule and direction to Protestants how to beleeue and how to liue These are but popish sclaunders and frierlike inuentions Where truth faileth you your vncharitable tongue helpeth out which was prowd Diotrephes practise against the Apostle pratling against vs saith S. Iohn with malicious words But as Hierome saith Scillaeos canes obdurata aure transibo I will stop mine eare against those backbiters as the Scillaean dogs and Sea-monsters he may for shame hold his peace for as Sophocles saith of the thiefe 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 He that is manifestly taken stealing had need hold his peace So he that is deprehended in a lie for shame may be silent 6. This Catholike Frier goeth about as well as he can to prooue the religion of Protestants to be the cause of Epicurisme Atheisme c. his confused prattle and disordred hudling vp of much homely stuffe I will reduce into some order if I can his simple reason if it be any at all standeth thus That religion wherein a man seeth so many diuisions and no agreement which is vncertaine and ineuident is a palpable prouocation and allurement to Atheisme Epicurisme infidelitie Apolog. p. 14. lin 3.4.16 But such is the religion of Protestants Ergo c. The proposition or first part of this reason being admitted the assumption that the religion of the Protestants is vncertaine full of diuisions hauing no agreement he laboureth diuersly to perswade The first Probation HE reasoneth thus from the lesse to the greater à minore ad mains as wee say in Schooles If in arts Alchymie be refused because of the vncertaintie if for matters of storie the diuersitie of opinions about the originall of the Britaines hath caused many to thinke there neuer was any Brute at all if because some writers as Hierome Orosius Fasciculus temporum differ about the comming of Peter to Rome some Protestants are not afraid to affirme he was neuer at Rome if for the same reason the Protestants denie the bookes of Macchabees Iudith Tobias to be Canonicall scripture p. 13. much more may that religion be doubted of which is so full of vncertainties c. The Solution HE had need be a good Alchymist that out of this leaden argument should draw anie sound or solide reason First where the foundation is false the building must needes be deceitfull this durtie dawber worketh with vntempered morter and patcheth vp his matter with false grounds 1. For neither doe the Protestants denie that Peter was at Rome but that he neither came thither so soone the 2. yeere of Claudius nor continued there so long namely 25. yeeres as the Popish Church holdeth He should haue named such Protestants whom he chargeth with this deniall of Peters being at Rome 2. These doubts and obiections moued by Protestants arise not onely now chiefly by reason of some difference in the historian writers but are grounded vpon certaine places of Scripture which they shall haue much adoe to answere as is elsewhere declared 3. The bookes of Tobie and the Macchabees are not refused onely for that cause for that they cannot be assigned to any certaine time but for other reasons both for the matter which is fabulous and erronious in many points and the manner diuers speeches and places being repugnant and contradictorie So then he hath rapped foorth three vntruths together such a plentifull forge this Frier hath to coyne his Alchymicall stuffe Secondly be it knowne vnto him that the Protestants faith relieth vpon a more sure ground then either Alchymie in Artes or in storie Brutes being in England or Peters comming to Rome the first is phantasticall the second coniecturall the third historicall the first but an inuention the second a tradition the third a collection or collation of times But the faith of the Gospell is grounded vpon the Scriptures not vpon mans vaine phantasie or blind traditions or vncertaine collections therefore this reason hath no shew of probabilitie nor force of consequence the argument is denied I thinke the Frier was telling ouer his beades or busie about his Memento when he thus argued somewhat he would say if he knew what Like as Hierome saith of one Pisoniano vitio laborat eum loqui nesciret tacere non posset He hath Piso his fault hee knoweth not how to speake and yet cannot hold his peace And as Diogenes compareth such which vnderstand not what they say 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Like as Harpes making a great sound without any sense The second Probation THis Popish champion in the next place by way of comparison betweene the Pope-catholike Church and the Protestants endeuoureth to shew the vncertaintie of the one by the certaine and infallible authoritie of the other The Cacolike or as he saith Catholike Church for whose election calling preseruing from error and consummation the whole mysterie of Christ was wrought hath condemned and vtterly extirped 400. heresies and by the same infallible authoritie and censure in diuers generall Councels where the whole Christian world was assembled reproued and anathematized those that raigne in Protestants pag. 14. and in this their Catholike Church there was neuer saith he or is any disagreement or contradiction in matter of beleeuing pag. 15. lin 17.18 The Solution FIrst in that he saith the mysterie of Christ was wrought for the Catholike Church where his meaning seemeth to be that Christ died onely for the Church as wee acknowledge this to bee an euident truth if by Catholike Church the true Church of Christ and not the Romane onely to be vnderstood so herein he contradicteth and gainsaith his fellow Friers for Bellarmine confesseth though now a Cardinall yet then an Ignatian Frier when he so writ that Christs blood was shed for Turkes Iewes Infidels quibuscunque impijs and all wicked men whatsoeuer Frier Feuardentius also prooueth that Christ suffered pro cunctis in vniuersum hominibus for all men vniuersallie 2. But where by the Catholike Church hee vnderstandeth the Romane Church that receiueth the B. of Rome as the head of Christs Church and to this Romane Church he applieth and appropriateth the mysterie of Christs worke in the redemption of the world What a grosse absurditie is here vttered and how inglorious to Christ that he died for none but for those which are vnder the Romane iurisdiction As though it were at the Popes deuotion who should be partakers of redemption in Christ the Scripture saith He that beleeueth in Christ shall not be condemned Ioh. 3.18 But now though a man beleeue
more then twentie of the Popes haue been giuen to that diuelish studie How Papists are confuters of Philosophers I leaue it to their owne report of one Maldonat an Ignatian sectarie that in a great auditorie in one lecture laboured to proue by naturall reasons that there is a God in an other that there is none and that the Iesuites do mainetaine at this day by the penne of Rene de la Fon that the Godhead must be proued by naturall reason 2 Vntrue also it is that Poperie hath conquered so many heresies retayning still a great number of them as is before sufficientlie declared neither haue they cause to brag of their vniuersalitie in subduing all nations for poperie was neuer so generall as pagane Idolatrie neither had the Pope euer commaund of all nations the Greeke Church hauing euer been deuided from him and I trust euery day his iurisdiction will be lesse and his account of nations come short as thanks be to God his nailes are well pared and his armes shortned in many famous cities and kingdomes in Christendome 3 Of the Papists it may be more truly said that they haue as many heads so many religions of the diuers sects and schismes in poperie and differences among their writers which rise to the computation of many hundreds relation hath been made before They are the deniers of scripture not Protestants that haue not blushed to say that the Pope may change the forme of words in baptisme that the Pope may dispense against the new testament that the Pope may dispense against all the precepts of the old and new testament that the scripture taketh authoritie from the Church of Rome that no man may lawfullie beleeue any thing by the authoritie of scripture against the determination of the Church Another saith the authoritie of the scriptures is founded in the allowance of the Church Another Apostoli quaedam scripserunt non vt praessent c. the Apostles writ certaine things not that they should rule faith and religion sed subessent but should be vnder Let any man now iudge if these men be not deniers of scripture which do derogate from the authoritie thereof that take vpon thē to chop change it to annihilate the precepts thereof and dispense against it So they not Protestants are the false translators of scripture who allow the vulgar Latine onely to be authenticall which in many hundred places altereth and corrupteth the Hebrue text As Genes 2.8 God planted a garden from the beginning for toward the East Genes 15. she shall breake thy head for he Gen. 4.13 they reade my sinne is greater then I can deserue pardon for then I can beare Gen. 6.5 their cogitation intent to euill for onely euill continuallie Gen. 12.15 and the princes told Pharao for the princes of Pharao saw her Gen. 26.9 why didst thou lye for why saidst thou v. 19. they digged in torrente in the brooke for in the vallie Gen. 35.16 he came in the spring time to the ground which bringeth to Ephratha for there was a little space of ground to come to Ephrah Genes 36.24 found out hoate waters in the wildernes for Mules Gen. 40.13 shall remember thy seruice for shall lift vp thy head Psal. 68.4 exalt him that ascendeth super occasum vpon the west or sunne-set for vpon the heauens v. 6. deliuereth prisoners in strength for in fetters v. 13. though ye sleepe betweene the lots for lien among the pots v. 17. tenne thousand for twentie thousand and a thousand such places might be alleaged wherein they haue corrupted the scriptures The Papists also are the men that forge scripture and other euidences for they thrust vpon the Church diuers Apocryphall bookes of Tobie Iudith Macchabees with the rest which the auncient Church of the Iewes to whom all the bookes of the old Testament and oracles of God were committed neuer receiued nor allowed So haue they forged and deuised diuers other writings as the Decretall epistles of the auncient Bishops of Rome which were Martyrs as of Zepherinus Calixtus Pontianus Vrbanus Fabianus with the rest which are all counterfeit stuffe as are also the leiturgie of S. Iames the writings that passe vnder the name of S. Martialis Abdias Hippolytus Dionysius and many such as is elsewhere declared more at large 4 Neither is it true that popish religion is founded vpon the infallible word of God conteyned in the scriptures but most of it vpon blind fallible and vncertaine traditions and many opinions the Church of Rome holdeth directlie opposite and contrarie to scripture as elsewhere hath been shewed Thus this friuolous aduersarie passeth on along heaping vp sclaunders and vntruths not remembring what the wise man sayth Lying lips are an abomination to the Lord but they that deale trulie are his delight But we neede not maruaile at it for this is familiar with thē with great boldnes to face out their owne forgeries and they may well say in Hieromes phrase domi nobis ista nascuntur we haue plentie of such stuffe at home But as the Lacedemonian magistrates said to Cephisophon the Orator when they expelled him that it was a good Orators part to make his speech answereable to his matter so should this sophister haue done and not to professe truth in his speech where none is in his matter The fift Perswasion 1 I Defend a religion where so much vertue is practised such obedience chastitie pouertie c. 2 Which brought the professors thereof to heauen as religious Heremites Monks Friers Priests Bishops Popes c. 3 Not that religion which made those which before were good chast obedient and contemners of the world to be wicked and giuen to impietie The Disswasion 1 WHat obedience poperie teacheth to their princes the late practises both in England and Fraunce do proclayme to all the world as the treacherous conspiracie of Parry incited by Cardinall Coomes letters of Somerfield and Arden sollicited by Hall a popish priest of Babington with other stirred vp by Ballard Lopez by Parsons Sauage and Yorke by Gifford Squire by Walpoole a Iebusite In Fraunce Iames Clement a Iacobine murdered Henry the third Barriere and Chastell attempted the like against the now King of Fraunce at the instigation of the Iesuites The Prince of Orange was by the like treacherie murdered and the death of the Chancelor of Scotland intended This may suffice to shew their obedience For their chastitie I appeale to the stories written of their vnholie fathers the Popes What place in the Christian world can afford more filthie spectacles of adulterers incestuous persons Sodomites then that Sea and citie of Rome I appeale to the inquisition made in King Henry the eights raigne at the suppression of the Abbeys when in some places the Priests and Monks were descried to haue kept some two some three some sixe some more one among the rest twentie concubines
Priests do rightlie conclude to be false and vnchristian Ibid. 4 Parsons affirmeth that the consideration of Catholike religion is the principall point in the succession to the Crowne Manifest fol. 63. a. And he seemeth to conclude that succession by birth and bloud is neither of the lawe of God or nature Quodlib p. 30. The Priests hold the contrarie that Catholikes are not bound to stand for a Catholike competitor vnlesse there concurre the right of succession Reply f. 76. a. 5 The Priests affirme We are most confident not onely in the excellencie of our Priesthood but also in the assurance that we in the execution haue a sufficient direction of Gods spirit 6 Parsons calleth this high presumption of heretikes and denieth both that by their character only Priests were made secure from erring and so consequently the sacrament of orders not to conferre grace which is a popish ground as also that they cannot haue such assurance of Gods spirit Manifest fol. 87. a. b. 7 Parsons saith that in Gods high prouidence we find the necessitie and ineuitabilitie of many accidents Manifest fol. 100.1 The Priests say these words taste vnsauourie if not hereticallie to put absolute necessitie and ineuitabilitie in those actions which are subiect to mans wil and reason Replie fol. 98. a. 8 Parsons saith that this position that the life and estate of secular Priests is more perfect then the state of religious men which the Priests maintaine is refuted and condemned not onely by Thomas Aquinas but by S. Chrysostome and other writers of that time Manifest fol. 104. b. 9 The Priests call Parsons interpretation of that place of S. Iohn Trie the spirit c. false and hereticall thereby leading his Reader into a presumptuous error of iudging all both men and matters Replie fol. 101. b. 10 The Priests hold that the Pope as an Ecclesiasticall Magistrate hath no power to moue warre for religion against any tēporal Prince or for whatsoeuer cause or pretence c. and that they would oppose themselues against him if he should come in person in any such attempt and that they will reueale whatsoeuer they shall know therein Imp. consyd p. 38. Parsons full like himselfe calleth these positions pernicious erronious hereticall Manifest f. 13. b. 11. The Priests doubt not to say that the Pope was not endued with the worthie gift of the holy Ghost tearmed discretio spirituum discerning of spirits and that he was deceiued in setting vp the Archpriest Relat. p. 57. Imp. consyd p. 11. Parsons stifly maintaineth the Pope not to haue erred herein Manifest 76. b. In diuers other points these two Popish sects doe differ as may bee gathered out of their late polemicall writings and inuectiues set foorth by one against the other And three hundred more of these contradictions and diuersities of opinion in matters of faith and doctrine which haue been and are in the Romane Church might be brought foorth but that it were needlesse these fewe examples being sufficient to conuince the aduersarie of error and superfluous this being elsewhere in another worke performed whither I pray the Reader to haue recourse Is not this then a shamelesse man that hath told vs so many lies together and blusheth not to abuse such honourable persons with his Frierly glosses if his necke were not 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 an yron sinew and 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 his face brasse as the Prophet saith he would neuer haue faced out such manifest vntruths But he may be very well compared to raging and running brooks which as Basile saith 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 as they runne carrie euerie thing along which they meete with So doth this bragger huddle vp together whatsoeuer is in his way be it true or false And they thinke it a good piece of seruice if they may with straining and ouerreaching bolster out a bad cause much like to some that Hierome speaketh of who thought they might make bold with their disciples Nos qui necdum initiati sumus audire debere mendacium ne parnuli lactentes solidioris cibi edulio suffocemur And that we which are hardly yet entred must heare lyes least being yet but little ones and sucklings wee might be choaked with stronger meate But though their disciples are credulous and will beleeue them vpon their word they haue small reason to thinke that wise and graue persons will be so easily deceiued The third Probation IN the third place the Epistler seemeth to reason thus that if a man may doubt to giue assent to any religion where there is such diuersitie this being but a speculatiue consent of faith onely exacting an agreement of the vnderstanding how much more doubt and difficultie wil be made c. for the obtaining of heauen c. His reason if it be any standeth thus It is an hard matter among Protestants to make choice of the right faith which consisteth onely in the vnderstanding Ergo it is an harder matter among them to obtaine heauen The Solution 1. IT is no hard matter among Protestants to discerne of the true religion seeing they make the Scriptures the rule of their faith but among Papists it is doubtfull seeing they refuse to bee tried onely by the Scriptures which they blasphemously affirme not to containe all things necessarie to saluation but they runne vnto vncertaine and doubtfull traditions and so as the Apostle saith they measure themselues by themselues where then the rule is crooked such as are their humane traditions how can that be straight which is measured by it But we say with Augustine Regula est illa Our rule is the will of God contained in the Scriptures stet regula quod prauum est corrgatur ad regulam Let the rule stand the word of God and let that which is amisse be corrected according to that rule 2. Neither is there such diuersitie of opinion or multitude of diuisions among Protestants and thereupon such manifest and apparant daunger of a false election as is shewed before And it is an absurd and grosse thing in a disputer still to begge the thing in question He may take himselfe by the nose and his fellow Friers that make among them aboue an hundred sects one holdeth of Francis another of Benedict another of Austine another of Ignatius the founder of the Iesuites like as among the Corinthians some held of Paul some of Apollo some of Cephas So that that saying of Hierome fitteth the Popish professors Nunc quoque mysterium iniquitatis operatur garrit vnusquisque quod sentit Now the mysterie of iniquitie worketh and euery man pratleth his owne fansie 3. Neither is faith onely an act of the vnderstanding and a speculatiue consent If your Popish faith bee nothing els the diuell may well be one of your Catholikes for hee in his knowledge and vnderstanding beleeueth there is a God and consenteth that the Scriptures are true and the historie of
and hatchers of heresies are thereby giuen ouer to greater vngodlines as the Apostle againe saith But the euill men and deceiuers shall waxe worse and worse deceiuing and being deceiued 3. For if the Church of God were then at the worst when heresies and schismes are raised then should the state of the Primitiue Church bee condemned when so many wicked doctrines of Ebionites Basilidians Valentinians Marcionites Arrians Sabellians with the rest were stirred vp by the diuell 4. The reason of this difference is euident because that where the truth is professed the opposition of errors doth giue occasion that the same be more throughly sifted as the wheate is by winnowing made more pure and the light shineth brighter in darknes But where there is no truth or sound knowledge at all there diuisions doe but harden them the more in their error like as chaffe being winnowed is scattered and dispersed and as they which walke in darknes without light the further they goe the more they wander This is the very case of the vnbeleeuing Turkes and of the misbeleeuing Iewes Pharisies Sadduces Herodians they were all out of the way This point is well touched by Augustine Non ad diabolum pertinet quis isto vel illo modo erret omnes errantes vult quibuslibet erroribus It is nothing to the diuell whether a man erre this way or that way all that bee in error are his what error soeuer they hold No marueile then if both Iewes and Gentiles by their diuisions waxed worse and worse because they still were vnder the kingdome of Sathan howsoeuer diuided Secondly if this argument be admitted it would conclude strongly against the Papists whose diuisions are notoriously knowne both to haue been and at this present to be such betweene the Secular Priests and irregular Ignatians both at Rome in France and in England which were happy if it were rid of them both and so hotly pursued on both sides with all reprochfull termes of knaues heretikes diabolicall Machiauels diuels incarnate and such like as they are not able to shew euer to haue been among Protestants And these diuisions not onely to consist in verball differences or repugnance in externall rites and liberties but in materiall points of doctrine as hath been before shewed Therefore among Papists where neither sect holdeth the truth this argument may well hold by this their erronious dissentions and diuersities to conuince them of monstrous and grosse iniquities Thirdly against English Protestants whom this Libeller chiefly impugneth this engine of his hath no force for to Gods glorie be it spoken fewer diuisions haue not been seene in the Church of England excepting some few nouelties of certaine new fangled teachers who in time I doubt not but will waxe wiser then at this present And I trust our domesticall heates shal euery day abate and slake and our contentions at home decrease that wee may with one ioynt force oppose our selues to the common aduersarie like as Abraham rescued Lot from the Gentiles though some priuate iarres betweene their families had broken out before The Grecians are said that when their enemies approched though they had been at ciuill discord before would compound their quarrels to resist their forraine foes And it is written of Themistocles and Aristides two famous Captaines of the Athenians that when they went on embassage together or to conduct an armie Inimicitiam in finibus patriae deposuerunt They laid downe their enmitie in the borders of their countrie It should be a shame for Christians not to be so wise for the defence of the common cause as the Heathen were That saying of Augustine to Hierome is to be embraced Fieri potest vt tibi videatur aliud quam veritas habet dum aliud à te non fiat quam charitas habet You may so long think otherwise then the veritie so that you doe nothing beside charitie If men will needes retaine some priuate opinions yet let them refraine publike dissensions And here an end also of this section THE FOVRTH SECTION THAT THE Authors intent and scope is nothing lesse then to teach a most vndoubted certaintie and vnitie in Popish religion THis section hath nothing worth the answering neither containeth any thing beside slaunders bragges facings and bold assertions 1. He impudently saith and with a brasen face that Protestants may be had in iust suspition that many doubters or deniers at least in affection of all worship are entred in among them Whereas it is out of all doubt that many such Atheists are fostered in Rome Italie Spaine where the name Christian is vsed as a word of derision as is rehearsed before 2. He telleth vs of an ample confutation which he hath written against all Atheists and enemies to religion which he calleth a Resolution of Religion wherein hee hath resolued all doubts that may bee imagined This sure is a worke indeede that can meete with mens thoughts and imaginations This booke we would gladly see which he so often maketh mention of some such thing I haue heard intended but it should seeme the author like to the Beare hath not yet licked this deformed lumpe to perfection If it were ripe it would be a good present for their mother of fornications and her children at Rome to perswade them from Atheisme and Epicurisme And yet considering this yonkers spirituall father graund prouinciall Frier Robert Parsons hath written of this argument before in his Resolution this punie father might haue spared this labour and confessed modestly with Hierome Supersedendum huic labori sentio ne mihi dicatur illud Horatij In syluam ne ligna feras c. I thinke to giue ouer this labour least that of Horace be said vnto me Carrie not sticks into the wood video enim ◠clarissimo ingenio occupata esse meliora For I see a riper head hath brought better stuffe 3. Where he saith that their religion which hee calleth most holie and approued most vnholie and reproued rather is resolued to the most assured and infallible word and reuelation of God This speech it is hard to say whether it hath more subtiltie or lesse honestie For if by the word and reuelation of God he vnderstand not the word written onely but their blind traditions which they vsually call Verbum Dei non scriptum The word of God vnwritten he speaketh craftily for this their Anabaptistical reuelation is not assured or infallible but most vncertaine and deceitfull If hee meane hereby onely the Scriptures of God it is an vnhonest bragge of him for Poperie differeth as much from the word written as darknes from light if it were not so why doe they not stand to their tackle and cleaue onely to the Scriptures why doe they make their traditions vnwritten of equall authoritie with the word written what need had they to denie the scriptures to containe all things necessarie to saluation These grosse positions
against them First for Sybils Oracles they do euidently describe the Pope of Rome calling him 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 one that should haue a manifold that is a triple crowne and his name should come neere to Ponti so is he called Pontifex that all the world should visit his foote that he should gather together huge heapes of gold and siluer be skilfull in Magick arte And afterward in the same booke Sybill speaketh of the vtter ruine and desolation of Rome Concerning the Rabbines neither do they witnes for the Romanes but did rather by the scriptures gather that they should be enemies to the Church for so they vnderstand that prophesie of Balaam that Cittim shall afflict Heber of the power of Italy and Rome so Onkelos Iarchi Ezra Sadaiah Isaac Bochai as they are cited by that learned man in his Concent whose name as I haue heard this opponent beareth but neither his wit nor learning Is not this now a braue lad that would make vs belieue that these speake for him that are vtterlie against him But whereas he challengeth beside that Mahometanes Iewes Paganes Infidels Heretikes Schismatikes Deuils damned soules soules in Purgatorie do witnesse with them We willinglie yeeld them all these they are fit Iurie men to bring in such a verdite onely I take exception against two of this empanelled enquest the soules in Purgatorie which is no where and therfore it is a vaine proofe and the damned soules who if they might vtter their complaint from hell they would cry out against their popish instructors which by their idolatrie doctrine of freewill merits pilgrimages inuocation of Saints blind traditions and by many other grosse errors and blind ignorance condemned them to hell 8 He saith further That the Queene by her new taken prerogatiue proceedeth in spirituall causes without Parliament Here are two vntruths couched together 1 Her Maiestie did while she liued exercise no authoritie in those causes which the statutes of this realme haue not yeelded vnto her and therefore without Parliament she proceeded not that authoritie in spirituall matters being restored to the Crowne by acte of Parliament 2 False also it is that this prerogatiue is new taken vp that the Prince should be the supreme gouernor ouer all persons and in all causes as well ecclesiasticall as temporall for her Maiestie did not challenge any authoritie and power of ministerie of deuine offices in the Church as the Papists do falsely slaunder the state but only she was acknowledged during her princely life and raigne to be supreame gouernor of the Church in her realme to prescribe lawes for the same by the word of God and to see them executed and no otherwise This prerogatiue is auncient neuer denied to Christian Princes Dauid Solomon Iehosaphat Hezekiah Iosias reformed religion deposed idolatrous priests made ecclesiasticall orders and lawes Eleutherius calleth King Lucius Gods vicar in his kingdome and saith it is his dutie to call his people to the faith and law of Christ. Pope Leo thus decreed Res humanae c. Humane matters can not otherwise be safe nisi quae ad diuinam confessionē pertinent regia sacerdotalis defendat dignitas vnlesse those things which belong to the deuine profession both the kinglie and priestlie authoritie defend And among other offices of the Kings of England this is one Vt regat ecclesiam That he gouerne the Church Yea the popish Clergie were the first that recognized King Henry the 8. to be the supreame head of the Church of England 9 Where he saith The definition of the Pope in such cases is impossible to be false by all morall iudgement You should haue said moriall or a fooles iudgement for it is notoriouslie knowne that diuers Popes haue been heretikes Marcellinus was a Montanist Liberius an Arrian Honorius was condemned for an Heretike Anastasius and Celestinus were Nestorians Yea it is also manifest that the Bishops of Rome haue erred in their definitions and decrees Nicolaus 1. alloweth baptisme made onely in the name of Christ Decret 1. de baptis Platina saith Post Stephanum c. After Stephen this custome was obserued Vt acta priorū pontificum sequentes aut infringerent aut omnino tollerent That the Popes which succeeded did infringe the acts of their predecessors or cleane take them away The former then or the latter must needs erre in their decrees Erasmus saith Ioannes 22. Nicolaus totis decretis intra se pugnant idque in his quae videntur ad fidei negotium pertinere Iohn 22. and Nicolas in all their decrees do fight one with another and in such things as belong vnto faith But if you waigh not the credit of this testimonie heare one of your Popes confession Quid si criminosus papa contraria fidei praedicet haereticisque dogmatib imbuat subditos What if a bad Pope do preach contrarie to the faith and corrupt his subiects with hereticall opinions It is possible then for a Pope not only to erre himselfe but to preach publish and enioyne it to others What an heape of lyes hath this fabulous Frier told vs and all within the compasse of one page I may say to him as Diogenes to Plato who requesting of him three rootes out of his garden sent him a bushell euen so saith he when you are asked you answere many things But this vnskilfull gardener vnasked hath cast vs out of his garden stinking weeds by lumps serued vs with a bushell of lyes Cyprianes saying may very well be applied to such ouer-reaching Romanists Romani cum sua mendaciorum merce nauigant quasi veritas post eos nauigare non posset The Romanists hoise vp saile to carrie their merchandise of lyes as though the truth could not saile after them so this nimble Cursitor trips away with his false footing as though no man could trace his wide footsteps and ouertake him The fourth Perswasion 1 I Defend a religion which hath confuted all aduersaries Atheists Epicures Iewes Paganes Mahumetanes Magicians Philosophers 2 Which hath conquered aboue 400. sects of internall and domesticall heretikes subdued all nations 3 Not a religion builded vpon vaine coniecture c. wherein so many heads so many religions deniers of scriptures deceitfull false translators corrupters and forgers of holie euidence deuisers of doctrines for pleasure sake c. 4 But a religion founded vpon the most certaine and infallible word of God c. The Disswasion 1 HOw well popish religion confuteth Atheists Epicures Iewes Pagans Mahometanes I haue shewed before that poperie boroweth from all these that diuers of their Popes haue been Atheists Gregor 7. Siluester 2. Paulus 3. Benedict 9. Ioann 13. Leo. 10. Alexander 6. with other Iewes and Turkes are tolerated vnder the Popes nose onely the Protestants are persecuted vnto death And for Magicians Platina sheweth that
or comfortlesse but prescribeth prayers to be vsed by the Elders and Ministers to be sent for the prayer of faith shall saue the sicke Iam. 5.15 and spirituall instruction and consolation to be ministred if there be a messenger with him to declare vnto man his righteousnes Iob. 34.23 7. Which doth not appoint orders to consecrate men to a blasphemous seruice to make the body of Christ and to install them Priests of the order of Melchisedech as that corporation doth of which order of Priesthood is none but Christ Psal. 110.4 Nor which maketh it no essentiall part of their ministrie to bee able to teach and instruct the people but especially requireth that Ministers should be apt to teach 1. Timot. 3.2 that they should be pastors and teachers c. for the edification of the bodie of Christ Ephes 4.11.12 Neither doth it teach that the grace of the spirit is actually conferred by orders but that men set apart to this calling not relying vpon their ordination should take heed to themselues and vnto learning thereby both to saue themselues and their hearers Which doth not denie the remedie of mariage to any condition of men as the Romane seignorie doth to their Clergie seeing the Apostle saith Mariage is honourable among all men Heb. 13.4 Neither doth it tie the grace of mariage to the matrimoniall solemnitie as this contradictor saith it giueth grace against the cares and difficulties of that condition pag. 27.7 but teacheth that the maried parties not relying vpon the ceremonie or solemnitie should giue themselues to fasting and prayer 1. Cor. 7.5 no doubt to obtaine among other matrimoniall graces Thus it is euident that not the Protestants faith but the Papists beleefe leaueth many without helpe and remedie As infants dying without baptisme are in their iudgement damned Priests not hauing the gift of continencie are denyed mariage Sick men haue no true comfort but a little greazing of the eyes and eares Sinfull men are by their popish penance made hypocrites their ordered Clerks are depriued of the principall part which is the preaching of the word Thus this cauiller for his false accusation shall haue Damasus fee Calumniator si in accusatione defecerit talionem accipiat A false accuser if he faile in his accusation shall receiue the law Talionis himself to incurre the same for it is in deed the popish irreligion that affoordeth no true comfort stay or remedie to their miserable disciples that a man may say to them as Iob to his deceitfull friends yee are physicians of no value And whereas they thinke to cure spirituall maladies with corporall medecines as with oyle chrisme salt holie water crossing to be defended against temptation it is as Ambrose saith vt qui latere laterem lauat as if a man should clense clay with clay magis se oblinebat luto such an one should defile himselfe more And as Diogenes said that Patacion the thiefe was no better then Epaminondas because he was professed or entred into religion no more is an euill man made better by such popish ceremonies The ninth Perswasion 1 I Defend not a religion where God is made author of all sinnes and thereby worthie no religion 2 Where the decision of spirituall doubts appertaine to temporall and vnlearned princes men women children 3 Where such sentences though neuer so much disagreeing and apparantlie false must be obeyed for the infallible word of God 4 Where man hath no libertie or freedome of will where our good works are necessitate 5 Where the predestination of God taketh away all election and indifferencie c. 6 But that religion that so accordeth the eternall prescience and predestination of God with the temporall cooperation of man that it both leaueth the first infallible and yet proueth the temporall action appetite c. to be voluntarie free in the power of man to be effected The Disswasion HEre is nothing else but an heape and pack of sclanderous vntruths which by one common answere of deniall might be easily remoued but somewhat more shall be said 1 The Protestants make not God author either of all or any sinne but the Papists rather that thus write They meane not that God is any way the author causer or mouer of any to sinne but onely by permission c. Ergo they grant that by permitting and suffering God is the author and causer of sinne And true it is that he which permitteth euill to be done and hindreth it not is consenting to it and a doer of it because accessorie to it But we say that God is not so much as a permitter or sufferer of sinne as it is euill and yet as he is a disposer of euill actions to good and an imposer of punishment is not only a permitter and beholder but an agent and doer euen in euill actions so that although sinne do no way stand with the will of God in approuing or consenting to it yet it standeth with his prouidence in ordering disposing and iudging of it As God is said to haue bid Shemei curse Dauid because he both disposed it to Dauids good for his further tryall and probation and iudged Shemei by it to his greater confusion Thus Origene well distinguisheth betweene Gods will and prouidēce Multa sine dei voluntate geruntur nihil sine prouidentia c. Many things are done without Gods will nothing without his prouidēce his prouidence is that whereby he dispenseth and prouideth his will whereby he willeth any thing or nilleth 2 The Prince challengeth not the decision of spirituall doubts but only to haue the rule ouer all manner persons within his realmes either Ecclesiasticall or Temporall so as no other forraine power shall or ought to haue any superioritie ouer them And againe in the booke of Articles it is thus conteyned We giue not to our Princes the ministring either of Gods word or sacraments but only that prerogatiue which we see to haue bene giuen alwayes to all good Princes c. in holie scriptures by God himselfe that is that they should rule all estates and degrees committed to their charge by God whether they be Ecclesiasticall or Temporall And beside the deciding of doubts is referred to the Ordinaries directlie and not to the Ciuill Magistrate 3 A most wicked sclaunder it is that we are bound to take such sentences for the infallible word of God The contrarie is euident in the Articles of religion set forth by authoritie of Parliament wherein the Church of England thus professeth It is not lawfull for the Church to ordaine any thing that is contrarie to Gods word written Againe things ordained by them that is general Councels as necessarie to saluation haue neither strength nor authoritie vnlesse it may be declared that they be taken out of holie scripture If Protestants attribute no greater authoritie to the whole Church
their soules with God and the resurrection of their bodies to come 4 It is Poperie rather that consisteth of negatiues as it is euident by their manifold oppositions to the doctrines before rehearsed as that the scriptures conteyne not all things necessarie to saluation that the Church can not erre that the scriptures are not fit to be read in the vulgar toong that the Pope is not Antichrist that faith onely iustifieth not that there be not two onely sacraments that Christ onely as one mediator is not to be inuocated These negatiues with a number more the Romane separation maintayneth And where they affirme and set downe any thing positiuely they affirme their owne fantasies the doctrine of the Trinitie onely and some few other points excepted and oppose themselues therein to the scriptures 5 First what if many Churches haue bene erected in poperie Were not many Temples also built in the time of Paganisme as at Rome to Diana to Honor. q. 13. to Matuta q. 16. to Bona. q. 20. to Saturne q. 42. to Horta q. 46. to Vulcane without the citie q. 47. to Carmenta q. 56. to Hercules q. 59. to Fortuna Parua q. 74. to Aesculapius without the citie q. 94. to Apollo at Delphos q. 12. to Ocridion at Rhodes q. 27. to Tenes at Tenedos q. 29. to Vlysses at Lacedaemon q. 48. with many other Not the building therefore of Churches Temples and other Monuments but the end whereto they were first founded maketh them commendable Secondly let it be considered to what intent these Monuments were erected in the popish time and so many Monasteries builded not for the most part of any true deuotion or to the honor of God but pro remedio animae pro remissione peccatorum in honorem gloriosae virginis for the remedie of their soule for the remission and expiation of their sinnes to the honor of the glorious Virgin As King Ethelstane after the death of his brother which he had procured builded in satisfaction two Monasteries of Midleton and Michelenes Elfrida for the death of Ethelwold her husband builded a Monasterie of Nunnes in remission of sinnes Queene Alfrith in repentance of her fact for causing her sonne King Edward to be murdered founded two Nunries one at Amesburie by Salisburie the other at Werewell let any man now iudge what good beginning those Monasticall foundations had Thirdly it will be an hard matter for them to proue that all the founders of Churches Colledges and other Monuments were of the Romane opinion 〈◊〉 â—eligion as now it is professed For Charles surnamed the Great who is said to haue builded so many Monasteries as be letters in the A B C held a Councell at Frankeford where was condemned the 2. Nicene Councell with Irene the Empresse that approued the adoration of Images which is now maintayned by the papall corporation In King Ethelstanes time the Prince was acknowledged to haue the chiefe stroke in all causes whether spirituall or temporall as it may appeare by diuers constitutions by him made for the direction of the Cleargie In this Kings raigne diuers Monasteries were builded as the Abbey of Midleton and Michelenes In King Edmunds time the opinion of transubstantiation was not generallie receiued but then newly hatched by certaine miraculous fictions imputed to Odo Vnder this King the order of the Monks of Bennets order increased and the Abbey of S. Edmundsburie with great reuenues indowed In King Edward the Martyrs raigne Priests were suffered to haue their wiues and were restored to their Colledges and Monks thrust out by Alpherus Duke of Mercia In this Kings time were founded the Nunries at Amesburie and Werewell I trust then that in these times when neither images were adored nor the Princes authoritie in ecclesiasticall causes abridged nor transubstantiation beleeued nor the mariage of Ministers inhibited all went not currant for Poperie as it is now receiued Fourthly this age of Protestancie for this 40. yeare in England vnder the happie regimeÌ„t of our late Soueraigne Queene Elizabeth hath beene more fruitfull of pious works in building of Hospitals Almes-houses free Schooles Colledges in the Vniuersities speciallie in Cambridge founding of fellowships schollarships erecting of Libraries speciallie the Vniuersitie Librarie at Oxford by the liberall charge christian care of Maister Bodlie a religious and well disposed Gentleman then any like space of time which can be named vnder the regiment of the papall Hierarchie See more of this elsewhere And concerning the godlie care of the foresaid vertuous and liberall Gentleman he deserueth to be compared either to Pamphilus which erected or Acacius and Euzonius which enlarged and amended the famous Librarie of Caesarea in whom that sentence of Hierome vttered of Pamphilus is now verified Beatus Pamphilus cum Demetrium Phalereum Pisistratum in sacrae bibliothecae studio voluit â—quare imagines ingeniorum quae vera sunt aeterna monumenta toto orbe perquireret Blessed Pamphilus equalizing Demetrius Phalereus and Pisistratus in taking care for Libraries he sought for the images of mens wits the only true and eternall monuments through the whole world 6 I suppose rather that all things requisite to true religion are wanting in Poperie where the people are nusled vp in ignorance no edifying in their Churches where all the seruice is muttered in an vnknowne toong no reading of scripture which should make them wise to saluation no comfort in prayer to saluation which they vnderstand not seldome receiuing of the sacrament and that but in one kind and so it is maymed and defectiue in the sacramentall effects where then there is no knowledge in themselues no edifying toward others no true prayer to God no comfort in meditation of scripture no strength in the celebration of the sacraments where men are taught not to relie only by faith vpon Christ but to trust in their merites not to rest in Christs mediation but to seeke for the intercession of Angels and Saincts not to be content with a spirituall worship of God but to prostitute themselues to dumbe Idols not to cleaue only to the scriptures in matters of faith but to runne vnto traditions How then doth this religion obserue all things nay rather how are not all things there wanting that are requisite to true religion And as the liuing haue small comfort so as little hope is there of the dead whose soules after they haue passed the troubles of this life they send to Purgatorie flames there to suffer more then euer they endured before like as a Ship hauing escaped the dangerous surges of the Sea should suffer wracke and be lost in the hauen Of such comfortlesse doctrine that saying of Plutarke is verified Death to all men is the end of life but to superstition it is not so for it extendeth feare beyond a mans life then hell gates are set open fierie streames and infernall riuers are let go and horrible darkenes
repented of It is to be feared rather that they which die in the popish communion without repentance of their idolatrie cannot be saued For no idolaters can inherite the kingdome of God and he that is vnder the kingdome of Antichrist cannot be vnder the kingdome of Christ. Ye promise saluation to your Disciples as the Pharises did to their proselites making them twofold more the children of hell and your Masses affoord like helpe to the commers to it as the Priests Corban did to the suiters to the Altar We know that out of Gods Church there is no saluation Duae portae sunt porta paradisi porta Ecclesiae per portam Ecclesiae intramus portam paradisi There are two gates one of paradise another of the Church by the gate of the Church we enter the gate of Paradise this gate of the Church the Gospell only openeth which teacheth iustification by faith alone in Christ who is the doore and the way Neither is it like that the Ignatian seducers can promise saluation to others wherein they faile themselues as their owne fellowes haue censured them All Iesuites except they amend their manners and reforme their order are damned for heretickes and thrust out of Gods Church as Apostataes Atheists c. to whom their credulous simple schollers might say as Agesilaus to the Thasians that offered to make him of the number of the Gods First saith he make your selues Gods and then I will beleeue ye can make me one too The second Inuectiue HE would shew that it is more reasonable to giue credite to so many preceding Archbishops of Canterbury then to the three protestant Archbishops Cranmer Parker Grindall these he doth first extenuate and then extoll and magnifie the other 1. For the first he sayth they were of three diuerse religions in substantiall points yea of seuen or eight diuerse religions 2. None of them burned for protestancy quartered for denying the supremacie a Saint for life renowmed for learning 3. Cranmer condemned of high treason proued publikely periured and to haue counterfeit the hands and consents of fifty Clergie men recanted his errour was in the case for relapse for ignorance was hissed out of the common schooles of Oxford p. 215. 4. The Archbishops their prodecessors S. Augustine S. Laurence Mellitus Iustus Honorius c. others 68 in number many most holy and learned men miraculously approued of God p. 126. Therefore it is more equall to credite these then the other The Defensatiue 1. WE depend not for our faith vpon any Archbishops whether Papall or Protestants we receiue not our faith of men neither are pinned vpon their sleeues for our iudgement in Religion the Apostle hath taught vs that we should not haue the faith of our glorious Lord Iesus Christ in respect of persons Iam. 2.1 Yet the three Protestant Bishops rehearsed prouing their faith by the Scriptures are more to be credited then all their predecessors grounding their beleefe vpon humane traditions Neither did they vary as is surmised in the substantiall and fundamental points of religion or were therein of three diuerse much lesse of seuen or eight sundry religions 2. Though to be quartered for denying the supremacy and maintaining the forraine iurisdiction of the Pope be a condigne punishment for trayterous Papists and proper vnto such rebellious and disloyall persons as the Iudasites and Baals Priests haue bene found to be yet it is certaine that blessed Cranmer was burned for Protestancie as were learned Ridley godly Latimer zealous Hooper constant Ferrar all Protestant Bishops Cranmers godly life and Episcopall vertues his sobernesse gentlenesse charitie humilitie soundnesse of doctrine diligence in his calling are at large set forth by the graue pen of that faithfull seruant of God maister Fox such as in few of his predecessors are to be found neither his aduersaries are euer able to confound His learning also was well knowne as appeareth by his learned bookes as that of the Sacrament which as he himselfe testified was set foorth seuen yeares agoe then and no man hath brought any authors against it 3. He was acquited and pardoned of high treason and not thereof condemned as he vntruly reporteth stood onely in the case of doctrine he was not periured hauing taken an oath to the Pope onely vnder protestation as he himselfe confesseth And if he had sworne obedience simply to the Pope it was an vniust oath like vnto Herods and not to be kept The law saith Illicitum iuramentum non valet an vnlawfull oath is of no force And their owne Canons say Iuramentum contra bonos more 's non ligat an oath against good manners bindeth not So is the oath made to the Pope it is vniust to Princes to whom due obedience is denied and against good manners in that disloyaltie to the Prince is thereby maintained The Popish Bishops rather were periured that being sworne to the King first tooke afterwards a contrarie oath to the Pope as Bishop Cranmer obiecteth to Bishop Brooke whereas their first oath was lawfull and iust and therefore firmely to be holden Those fifty Clergie mens hands were not counterfeited by Cranmer but subscribed by themselues for the abrogation of the Papall iurisdiction Indeed Fisher charged Archbishop Warrham with counterfeiting of his hand in the sitting at Blacke-friers about the businesse of the kings mariage He recanted his errour and executed iust reuenge vppon his right hand that was the instrument of his rash subscription first consuming the same in the flames of the fire This is no more disgrace vnto him then Peters teares and repentance for denying of his Maister neither was he by their law in case of relapse when he was adiudged to the fire hauing not as yet shewed his remorse of conscience and repentance for his vnaduised act of subscription He was hissed indeed of the young headie schollers but that argueth their temerity not that reuerend fathers simplicity The Donatists serued the Catholike Bishops after the same maner making such a noise that they could not go on in their defence say also that Augustine the other Catholikes were therfore disgraced and put to silence 4. Cōcerning the Popish Archbishops 1. if nūber might preuaile the high priests by a greater proportion exceeded our Sauiour Christ and his Apostles and the pagan sacrificers the Christian Bishops and preachers 2. Many of them were not very holy men whereof some were disloyall to their princes as Thomas Becket to Henry the second Robert Winchelsey to Edward the first Thomas Arundell to Richard the second who was by Parliament adiudged a traytor Diuerse of them were busie malitious vncharitable contentious as Baldwine Stephen Laughton Richardus Magnus had great strife with the Monkes of Canterbury Boniface Kilwaruy with the Archbishops of Yorke for bearing vp of their Masse in London and Kent Iohn Peccham with Thomas Bishop of Hereford such
was the holinesse and meeknesse of these proud papal Archbishops 3. For their miracles they were meere forgeries such as are reported of Dunstane that he caused an Harpe to sing and play alone hanging on the wall how he held the diuel by the nose with a paire of tonges tempting him with women such were the fained miracles of Thomas Becket which were condemned by the great men of the land as fables Magnates interdixerunt ne quis martyrem Thomā nominaret ne quis miracula eius praedicaret the great men forbad that no man should call Thomas a martyr or speake of his miracles 4. Neither were many of them such learned Clarkes though some of them I confesse had more learning then true pietie or honestie as Lanfranke Anselme yet for the rest what were they Was not Augustine the founder of that Sea a great Diuine that must needs send to Gregory for resolution in these profound questions Whether a woman great with child may be baptized after how many dayes the infant ought to be receiued to baptizme and such like And it should seeme that learning in their Archbishops was not greatly requisite when Robert Burnell Bishop of Bath and Thomas Cobham two reuerend and learned men being elected were refused and Peccham a gray Frier and Reinald Bishop of Winchester an ambitious man better acquainted with suites of law being Chancellor then questions of Diuinity were appointed in their stead 5. But as I hold Bishop Cranmer in true learning and sound Diuinity to be equall to any his prodecessours so in godly constancie to go before them for he was the first and onely Martyr of that Sea that died for the truth Elphegus the 26. Archbishop was stoned to death for denying tribute to the Danes Simon Sudbury was beheaded of the rebels because he gaue counsell that the king should not come at them to heare their complaints But neither of these died in the cause of religion 6. Neither did the truth want witnesses from among these auncient Archbishops Cuthbertus the 11. Archbishop forbad all funerall exequies to be made for him after he was dead Elfricus the 26. did write certaine Sermons against transubstantiation the authenticals thereof are yet extant in the libraries of Exceter and Worcester Simon Islip forbad vpon paine of excommunication that no man should abstaine from bodily labours vpon certaine Saints dayes Therefore euen amongst them the Lord left not himselfe altogether 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 without witnesse as the Apostle sayth Wherefore he hath gained nothing by this mustering of his Popish Archbishops of whō we may say as our Sauiour of the Pharises They are blind leaders of the blind Math. 13.14 Hierome sayth well of such Quòd me damnant episcopi nō est ratio sed conspiratio quorum authoritas me opprimere potest docere non potest In that the Bishops condemne vs it is no reason but treason their authority may impeach me but not teach me Metellus because he was blind was forbidden among the Romaines to exercise his Priesthood and they had a law that no Augurs 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 hauing any soare or disease should execute their office As litle regard is to be had to these blind prelates lame and diseased in iudgement as in the same place it is expounded that it is not fit for them that are corrupted and diseased in their soules to handle Diuine things The third Inuectiue 1. IN the lawes of Henry the 8. Edward the 6. and Queene Elizabeth I will ouerthrow them 2. If they alleadge Vniuersities they are ouer-matched Oxford hath had in Catholike times thirty thousand students all euer of the same mind with vs. 3. For other Clergie men we haue had an hundred thousand more Synodes two to one in number two hundred to one p. 116. 4. If they vrge Scriptures by resorting to the Originall tongues the Greeke and Hebrew c. the victory is ours We vse more Scriptures for numbers of bookes more for diuersitie of tongues Our expositors of Scripture professed students in Diuinity c. excellent linguists many naturall borne Greekes and Hebrewes Their expositors of Scripture neuer were to be compared to those In the Parliament where their religion was decreed there was no person present that vnderstood either Greeke or Hebrew p. 117. The Defensatiue 1. THis is as like to be so as if I should say that by the Popes lawes now in force at Rome the faith of Protestants is maintained and yet I will shew twenty Canons amongst them that giue testimonie to our faith to one decree that he can alleadge amongst vs making for them this I haue already performed in Synopsis throughout Wherefore in this so shamelesse and vnreasonable assertion I will vouchsafe him no other answer but say with Augustine Non inuenio quomodo te refellerem nisi vt aut iocantem irriderem aut insanientem dolerem I know not how else to answer you then either as a iester to scorne you or as a mad man to pity you 2. The most famous Vniuersities in the world as of Herdelberge Magdobing Wittenberge Basile Geneua Vtricke Lepden Cambridge Oxford with manie more are with the Protestants King Henry for his diuorce had the consent of the most famous vniuersities in Europe Oxford was not wholly yours no not in the grossest times of popery for they cleared vnder their common seale Iohn Wickliffe and his doctrine of the suspition of heresie 3. We confesse Papists haue bene and yet are more in number so did the Pagans in multitude exceed the Christians but the Scripture hath taught vs not to follow a multitude to do euill Eccles. 23.2 Synodes both generall and prouinciall Protestants haue more on their side then Papists I referre the Reader for the truth hereof to Synopsis 4. If you would as ye say be tried by the originall Scriptures the controuersie would soone be at end but your sayings and doings agree not Why should ye be afraid to preferre the Hebrew and Greeke text before the vulgar Latine making this onely authentike in Sermons readings disputations as it was concluded in the Tridentine Chapter why did they not amend their vulgar Latine according to the originall reading still Genes 3.15 She shall breake thine head for he or it Genes 8.4 for seuenteene seuen and twenty Psal. 68.13 for liue among the pots sleepe betweene the lots and in diuerse hundred such places they swarue from the originall Ye vse indeed more Scriptures for number as all the Apocryphall workes which were neuer recorded of the Church of God vnder the law neither written by Prophets or approued by Christ and his Apostles but not for diuersitie of tongues For the Canonicall Scriptures are extant in the Hebrew Greeke and Latine the Apocripha some in the Greeke and Latine some in the Latine only You haue litle cause to brag of your popish expositors such as