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B05064 A modest answer to Dr. Stillingfleet's Irenicum: by a learned pen. Rule, Gilbert, 1629?-1701. 1680 (1680) Wing R2223; ESTC R203177 121,671 175

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weight_n on_o this_o testimoney_n to_o the_o purpose_n it_o be_v bring_v for_o for_o either_o he_o mean_v that_o the_o degree_n of_o church-officer_n in_o respect_n of_o precedency_n be_v leave_v free_a or_o in_o respect_n of_o jurisdiction_n if_o the_o first_o it_o be_v nothing_o contrary_a to_o what_o we_o hold_v for_o we_o acknowledge_v it_o indifferent_a whether_o there_o be_v a_o stand_a precedent_n over_o presbytery_n or_o not_o if_o the_o second_o he_o be_v direct_o contrary_a to_o mr._n stillingfleet_n who_o maintain_v that_o the_o church_n may_v set_v up_o no_o new_a officer_n but_o what_o christ_n have_v institute_v as_o we_o have_v see_v before_o now_o a_o order_n of_o officer_n with_o jurisdiction_n above_o what_o christ_n have_v institute_v can_v but_o be_v a_o sort_n of_o officer_n that_o he_o have_v not_o institute_v wherefore_o mr._n still_o can_v not_o make_v use_v of_o this_o testimony_n neither_o aught_o any_o else_o for_o it_o cross_v the_o scripture_n which_o 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