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A57854 An answer to Dr. Stillingfleet's Irenicum by a learned pen. Rule, Gilbert, 1629?-1701. 1680 (1680) Wing R2217; ESTC R31782 123,510 178

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only_o the_o 2d_o must_v be_v understand_v with_o this_o distinction_n else_o we_o can_v grant_v it_o that_o a_o few_o number_n if_o form_v into_o a_o church-society_n though_o it_o do_v not_o need_v as_o great_a a_o number_n of_o officer_n of_o every_o kind_n as_o teacher_n elder_n deacon_n yet_o will_v it_o need_v as_o many_o sort_n of_o officer_n and_o the_o reason_n be_v because_o all_o those_o act_n be_v needful_a to_o be_v do_v to_o they_o which_o must_v be_v do_v to_o great_a congregation_n they_o must_v be_v teach_v rule_v and_o their_o poor_a care_v for_o and_o therefore_o they_o must_v not_o want_v any_o of_o these_o sort_n of_o officer_n who_o work_n these_o act_n be_v i_o mean_v where_o such_o officer_n can_v be_v have_v for_o christ_n institution_n tie_v not_o to_o impossibility_n from_o these_o premise_n he_o infer_v these_o two_o conclusion_n to_o make_v out_o his_o proposition_n the_o first_o be_v p._n 325._o that_o in_o church_n consist_v of_o a_o small_a number_n of_o believer_n where_o there_o be_v no_o great_a probability_n of_o increase_n afterward_o one_o single_a pastor_n with_o deacon_n under_o he_o be_v only_o constitute_v by_o the_o apostle_n for_o the_o rule_n of_o these_o church_n on_o this_o conclusion_n before_o i_o come_v to_o his_o proof_n of_o it_o i_o shall_v make_v these_o remark_n 1._o here_o be_v nothing_o here_o for_o the_o imparity_n of_o presbyter_n or_o the_o authority_n of_o a_o bishop_n over_o presbyter_n if_o where_o more_o presbyter_n can_v not_o be_v have_v one_o be_v to_o do_v the_o work_n this_o do_v not_o at_o all_o say_v that_o the_o apostle_n ever_o do_v or_o that_o we_o may_v set_v one_o over_o the_o rest_n where_o many_o may_v be_v have_v to_o rule_v the_o church_n this_o conclusion_n than_o prove_v nothing_o 2._o these_o deacon_n that_o here_o he_o speak_v of_o either_o have_v rule_v power_n or_o not_o if_o he_o say_v the_o first_o i_o doubt_v if_o he_o can_v prove_v that_o ever_o any_o such_o deacon_n be_v in_o the_o apostolic_a church_n where_o the_o deacon_n work_n be_v to_o serve_v not_o to_o rule_v that_o church_n and_o if_o they_o have_v rule_v power_n they_o be_v not_o only_a deacon_n but_o roll_a elder_n both_o work_n be_v lay_v on_o the_o same_o person_n for_o want_n of_o man_n to_o exercise_v they_o distinct_o which_o make_v nothing_o against_o presbyterian_o if_o the_o second_o first_o i_o question_v if_o any_o instance_n can_v be_v give_v of_o a_o church_n so_o constitute_v by_o the_o apostle_n 2._o if_o it_o be_v so_o it_o be_v necessity_n not_o choice_n that_o make_v they_o be_v without_o rule_v elder_n sect._n 15._o but_o how_o prove_v he_o this_o his_o conclusion_n by_o 3_o or_o 4_o testimony_n out_o of_o clement_n epiph._n and_o other_o what_o have_v he_o so_o soon_o forget_v himself_o he_o have_v immediate_o before_o spend_v about_o 30_o page_n in_o prove_v that_o the_o testimony_n of_o the_o father_n be_v not_o sufficient_a to_o prove_v what_o be_v the_o apostle_n practise_v and_o that_o by_o make_v out_o the_o defectiveness_n ambiguity_n partiality_n and_o repugnancy_n of_o the_o record_n of_o the_o succeed_a age_n it_o be_v strange_a then_o that_o to_o prove_v this_o his_o assertion_n concern_v apostolic_a practice_n he_o shall_v bring_v no_o other_o argument_n at_o all_o but_o such_o as_o he_o have_v set_v that_o nigrum_fw-la theta_n upon_o neither_o see_v i_o what_o those_o testimony_n prove_v contrary_a to_o we_o the_o testimony_n of_o clement_n say_v no_o more_o than_o what_o be_v employ_v phil._n 1._o 1._o that_o the_o apostle_n ordain_v bishop_n and_o deacon_n and_o our_o author_n himself_o maintain_v that_o those_o be_v not_o by_o their_o constitution_n any_o more_o than_o presbyter_n whatever_o they_o may_v after_o get_v by_o man_n institution_n prove_v not_o what_o be_v apostolic_a constitution_n for_o the_o testimony_n of_o epiphanius_n he_o confess_v its_o intricacie_n and_o obscurity_n and_o therefore_o by_o his_o own_o argument_n of_o which_o before_o it_o be_v not_o to_o be_v lay_v weight_n upon_o but_o he_o take_v a_o great_a deal_n of_o pain_n to_o explain_v it_o and_o make_v it_o speak_v this_o in_o sum_n that_o at_o first_o there_o be_v only_a bishop_n and_o deacon_n by_o bishop_n he_o mean_v presbyter_n as_o appear_v from_o his_o subjoyn_v immediate_o that_o there_o be_v necessity_n for_o presbyter_n and_o deacon_n and_o that_o by_o these_o all_o ecclesiastical_a office_n may_v be_v perform_v but_o afterward_o where_o there_o be_v need_n and_o there_o be_v find_v any_o worthy_a of_o it_o there_o be_v a_o bishop_n appoint_v but_o where_o there_o be_v not_o many_o to_o be_v presbyter_n they_o be_v content_a with_o a_o bishop_n and_o deacon_n here_o be_v 3_o case_n presbyter_n and_o deacon_n a_o bishop_n and_o deacon_n this_o in_o case_n of_o necessity_n where_o more_o presbyter_n can_v not_o be_v