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A26924 The English nonconformity as under King Charles II and King James II truly stated and argued by Richard Baxter ; who earnestly beseecheth rulers and clergy not to divide and destroy the land and cast their own souls on the dreadful guilt and punishment of national perjury ... Baxter, Richard, 1615-1691. 1689 (1689) Wing B1259; ESTC R2816 234,586 307

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baptism_n where_o crossing_n be_v refuse_v ch._n 14._o xi_o of_o reject_v from_o communion_n all_o that_o dare_v not_o receive_v kneel_v ch._n 15._o xii_o of_o consent_v to_o the_o false_a rule_n as_o true_a for_o find_v easter_n day_n always_o whether_o small_a lie_v be_v sin_n ch._n 16._o xiii_o of_o pronounce_v all_o save_v that_o be_v bury_v except_o the_o excommunicate_a unbaptise_v and_o self-murderer_n ch._n 17._o fourteen_o of_o consent_v to_o read_v so_o much_o of_o the_o apocrypha_fw-la ch._n 18._o xv._n of_o assent_v to_o mis-translation_n of_o god_n word_n and_o subscribe_v that_o they_o be_v not_o contrary_a to_o it_o ch._n 19_o xvi_o of_o consent_v to_o reject_v all_o from_o christian_a communion_n who_o desire_v not_o the_o english_a manner_n of_o episcopal_a confirmation_n c._n 20._o xvii_o of_o consent_v to_o all_o the_o ornament_n of_o church_n and_o minister_n which_o be_v in_o use_n in_o the_o second_o year_n of_o king_n edw._n 6._o ch._n 21._o xviii_o of_o give_v 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