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A54844 The new discoverer discover'd by way of answer to Mr. Baxter his pretended discovery of the Grotian religion, with the several subjects therein conteined : to which is added an appendix conteining a rejoynder to diverse things both in the Key for Catholicks, and in the book of disputations about church-government and worship, &c. : together with a letter to the learned and reverend Dr. Heylin, concerning Mr. Hickman and Mr. Bashaw / by Thomas Pierce ... Pierce, Thomas, 1622-1691. 1659 (1659) Wing P2186; ESTC R44 268,193 354

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〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d &_o ●_o epiph._n l._n 3._o t._n 1._o none_o be_v worthy_a to_o be_v make_v bishop_n in_o diverse_a place_n and_o in_o such_o the_o apostle_n do_v all_o themselves_o at_o least_o the_o place_n remain_v vacant_a ibid._n vacant_a 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d id._n ibid._n 2._o where_o need_v require_v and_o worthy_a person_n be_v to_o be_v have_v in_o such_o the_o apostle_n ordain_v bishop_n but_o 3._o whilst_o the_o church_n be_v so_o thin_a as_o that_o the_o bishop_n with_o their_o deacon_n can_v well_o discharge_v the_o whole_a work_n epiphanius_n tell_v we_o we_o express_o and_o that_o from_o the_o elder_a of_o the_o church_n history_n there_o be_v not_o yet_o a_o constitution_n of_o single_a presbyter_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d etc._n etc._n and_o of_o this_o we_o have_v the_o first_o instance_n in_o james_n the_o bishop_n of_o jerusalem_n to_o who_o