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A44419 Golden remains of the ever memorable Mr. John Hales ... with additions from the authours own copy, viz., sermons & miscellanies, also letters and expresses concerning the Synod of Dort (not before printed), from an authentick hand. Hales, John, 1584-1656. 1673 (1673) Wing H271; ESTC R3621 409,693 508

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