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A20517 A reply to M. Nicholas Smith, his discussion, of some pointes of M. Doctour Kellison his treatise of the hierarchie. By a divine Divine.; Lechmere, Edmund, d. 1640?; Kellison, Matthew. 1630 (1630) STC 6929; ESTC S109712 163,687 351

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