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A65843 A brief treatise on the truths behalf in discovery of falshoods which are dispersed abroad in two papers of Richard Baxters ... the one intituled One sheet for the ministry, the other A second sheet for the ministry, and he hath pretended the one against malignants among whom he hath numbred them called Quakers and uttered forth his envy in several lies and revilings against that people called Quakers, whose known integrity shall stand a witness against all such deceivers and revilers as he is proved to be perpetually ... / by George Whitehead. Whitehead, George, 1636?-1723. 1658 (1658) Wing W1897; ESTC R26353 18,488 26

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of such helping them as before he counted as walking devils and as the highest in wickednesse upon earth surely he can but help his hearers badly and miserably for their souls seeing his strength is so much decayed that he would thank them he cals malignants if he could have their help it may be justly said that they that seek to him for help do but go down into AEgypt for help Priest If the Magistrates stop the mouths of such raylors and abusers of God and men he doth no more persecute then he persecuteth a thief when he haugeth him and this he speaks against them called Quakers in page 12. Answer Here his envy and maliciousnesse is made appear whereby he would stir up the Magistrates to persecute us for our profession which we know Christ Jesus is the Authour of and this is because that we are made to witnesse against him and against such deceitful tradesmen as he is but if he were in the truth and saw us in errors then he would not seek to incense the Magistrates to persecute us but rather seek to convince us by sound doctrine and a good example but such as he are manifest to be out of both and he would bring Paul and Peter and the Churches of Christ for a cloak to his malice which here he hath uttered to the Magistrate against us but they will not cover him nor his deceit for though they rejected judged and delivered some up to Satan yet they did not persecute them nor complain to the Magistrates to have thē east into prison nor to have their goods taken from them for their profession as many of the priests in England have done by whom many of the servants of the Lord in England have suffered and do suffer both the spoiling of their goods and imprisonments and some the losse of their lives in prisons whose sufferings will rise up as a heavy judgement when their prayers shall be fulfilled against their persecutors And this said Priest it appears allows of hanging them that steal seeing that he would have us persecuted and counts it as lawful as hanging a thief Answer Here this is a murtherous spirit that would take away the life for the creatures and so doing is contrary to the Law of God Let the Priest and the Magistrate read Exod. 22. 1 2 3. If a man shall steal an Ox or a Sheep and kill it or sell it he shall restore five oxen for an Ox and 4. Sheep for a sheep If a thief be found breaking up and be smitten that he die there shall no blood be shed for him if the sun be risen upon him there shall he blood shed for him for he should make restitution If he have nothing then he shall be sold for his theft Mark by this then if the thief was slain after the sun was risen there was blood to be shed for him and in verse the fourth if the theft certainly be found alive in his hands whether it be Ox Ass or Sheep he shall restore double and in Eph. 4. 28. Let him that stole steal no more but rather let him labour working with his hands the thing which is good that he may have to give to him that needeth but he doth not say that he is to be hanged for this theft and how shall he labour or work with his hands if he be hanged Therefore Magistrates had need to take heed of hanging thieves and priests of allowing it Now concerning the Priests call to their Ministry as followeth and how it differs from the true call Now whereas R. Baxter in his second sheet goeth about to prove the priests call to their Ministry to be of God and brings scriptures to prove his and their call to be lawful for their sakes that desires to be informed in this thing I shall mention something concerning it that the simple may be informed and the minds of the ignorant unvailed that they may see the difference between a true call which is revealed and a false call where revelation is denyed by the false Mininisters and that the scriptures and the form of sound words do not make void revelations Whereas R Baxter in his first proposition in pages 3 4 goeth about to prove 2 distinct sorts of Ministers first such as received revelation or a particular law or message immediately from God these were prophets and Apostles and he goes about to distinguish a second sort of Ministers from them and the second sort he calls over seers Bishops presbyters or elders pastors and Teachers and Decons and that the latter sort as he calls them was not to declarewhat they had immediately from God but what is declared in Scripture and what they have heard of others and saith that the holy Ghost is to help us in keeping that which is committed to us and not to reveal more Answ. This is a false distinction and a perverting the scriptures to distinguish Elders Pastors and Teachers or Bishops from them that had Revelation and immediate teaching and from being Apostles for John was an Elder and declared what he had revealed that which he had heard that which he had seen and which he had looked upon which was from the beginning the same he shewed to others 1 John 1. 1. And he saith the Elder unto the Elect Lady and the Elder unto the wel-beloved 2 John 1. 3. John 1. and John was an Apostle Mat. 10. And the Apostle Peter was an Elder who had the word of God revealed so an Elder not distinct from an Apostle here as this man would have them And Paul was a father in the truth and an Elder was as a father to be intreated 1. Tim. 5. 1. so he that is a father is an Elder and the same that was an Elder was an Apostle and declared what he had received immediately from God and the Elders Pastors and Teachers had gifts given them from God when Christ was ascended he gave gifts unto men he gave some Apostles some Prophets and some Evangelists and some Pastors and Teachers for the perfecting of the Saints for the work of the Ministery for the edifying of the body of Christ Ephes. 4. 11 12. the Apostle doth not say that the Evangelists Pastors and Teachers had not received that immediately from God which they taught as this man doth for they had gifts given them when Christ ascended which gifts were perfect and was given for the perfecting which gifts was revealed in the Church of Christ for these gifts were for the benefit of the Church neither had they received these gifts from man but from God and these that had gifts given them for the work of the Ministry whether Prophets Apostles Evangelists Pastors or Teachers they had power to ordain Elders in the Churches as well as the Apostles had power to lay on hands on several that beleeved which when they laid their hands immediately the holy Ghost came upon them so that Paul and Barnabas and Timothy and