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and_o controversy_n now_o that_o their_o advice_n be_v much_o neglect_v and_o themselves_o but_o too_o much_o deject_v by_o the_o bishop_n in_o ambrose_n his_o time_n appear_v not_o only_o by_o he_o but_o also_o by_o jeromes_n nepotianum_fw-la complaint_n likewise_o by_o diverse_a canon_n in_o the_o four_o council_n of_o carthage_n 4._o hold_v about_o the_o year_n 401_o wherein_n it_o be_v decree_v 22._o that_o the_o bishop_n without_o the_o assembly_n of_o his_o clergy_n shall_v not_o ordain_v clerk_n &_o that_o in_o the_o 3._o ordination_n of_o a_o presbyter_n the_o presbyter_n also_o which_o be_v present_a shall_v with_o the_o bishop_n impose_v their_o hand_n that_o the_o b_o 23._o shall_v not_o determine_v any_o man_n cause_n but_o in_o the_o presence_n of_o his_o clergy_n that_o he_o 32._o may_v not_o alienate_v or_o sell_v the_o good_n or_o possession_n of_o the_o church_n without_o the_o consent_n of_o his_o clergy_n that_o the_o bishop_n 35._o though_o in_o the_o church_n and_o in_o the_o assembly_n of_o the_o presbyter_n aught_o to_o sit_v in_o a_o high_a place_n yet_o private_o he_o shall_v use_v the_o presbyter_n as_o his_o colleague_n and_o sit_v himself_o shall_v not_o suffer_v a_o presbyter_n to_o stand_v that_o 39_o the_o deacon_n shall_v acknowledge_v themselves_o to_o be_v minister_n to_o the_o presbyter_n as_o well_o as_o to_o the_o bishop_n &_o that_o if_o the_o presbyter_n bid_v they_o they_o may_v sit_v in_o their_o presence_n which_o otherwise_o they_o may_v not_o 18._o do_v all_o these_o thing_n consider_v together_o with_o that_o which_o before_o have_v be_v allege_v to_o prove_v that_o there_o be_v never_o any_o lay-elder_n do_v necessary_o evince_v that_o there_o be_v no_o reason_n to_o imagine_v if_o doctorum_fw-la signify_v doctor_n or_o teacher_n lay-elder_n to_o be_v mean_v by_o senior_n in_o this_o place_n and_o so_o much_o of_o the_o exposition_n of_o this_o place_n according_a to_o the_o former_a sense_n of_o the_o word_n 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be_v use_v and_o whereby_o the_o church_n have_v be_v govern_v who_o see_v not_o that_o it_o be_v the_o neglect_n of_o the_o minister_n advise_v whereof_o ambrose_n complain_v 2._o yea_o but_o jerome_n 3_o say_v we_o also_o in_o the_o church_n have_v senatum_fw-la nostrum_fw-la â—â—tum_fw-la presbyterorum_fw-la our_o senate_n a_o company_n of_o presbyter_n which_o testimony_n be_v wont_a to_o be_v allege_v to_o prove_v that_o in_o jeromes_n time_n there_o be_v a_o presbytery_n of_o lay-elder_n but_o here_o my_o adversary_n presuppose_v that_o lay-elder_n be_v grow_v out_o of_o use_n in_o ambrose_n his_o time_n who_o t_o c_o suppose_v to_o have_v continue_v diverse_a hundred_o year_n after_o ambrose_n bring_v it_o to_o prove_v that_o in_o jeromes_n time_n who_o be_v almost_o as_o ancient_a as_o ambrose_n there_o be_v a_o senate_n of_o minister_n which_o no_o man_n doubt_v of_o for_o elsewhere_o he_o say_v ecclesia_fw-la the_o church_n have_v a_o senate_n a_o company_n of_o presbyter_n 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they_o also_o in_o the_o scripture_n be_v call_v bishop_n howsoever_o now_o the_o bishop_n envy_v they_o that_o dignity_n etc._n etc._n 23._o his_o 4._o testimony_n be_v the_o 23._o canon_n of_o the_o council_n of_o carthage_n which_o even_o now_o i_o cite_v which_o make_v against_o he_o rather_o than_o for_o he_o for_o see_v good_a law_n arise_v from_o bad_a manner_n it_o be_v to_o be_v imagine_v that_o according_a to_o the_o complaint_n of_o ambrose_n and_o jerome_n who_o be_v somewhat_o before_o this_o council_n the_o presence_n of_o the_o clergy_n and_o stant_fw-la assistance_n of_o the_o presbyter_n be_v neglect_v and_o that_o this_o neglect_n give_v occasion_n to_o the_o make_n of_o that_o canon_n his._n 5._o testimony_n be_v of_o d._n bilson_n though_o he_o name_v also_o another_o learned_a man_n only_o to_o abuse_v he_o howbeit_o 11.160_o d._n bilson_n understand_v ambrose_n as_o complain_v of_o the_o bishop_n of_o his_o time_n who_o while_o they_o will_v seem_v to_o rule_v 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place_n which_o he_o shall_v choose_v either_o ordain_v by_o moses_n or_o restore_v by_o josaphat_n or_o renew_v by_o the_o jew_n after_o their_o captivity_n wherefore_o our_o disciplinarian_o may_v as_o well_o desire_v to_o have_v a_o parliament_n or_o high_a counsel_n of_o state_n in_o every_o parish_n as_o such_o a_o consistory_n as_o this_o be_v to_o conclude_v this_o place_n though_o it_o be_v true_a that_o the_o jew_n have_v a_o ecclesiastical_a senate_n consist_v of_o priest_n and_o elder_n of_o the_o people_n yet_o it_o can_v be_v prove_v that_o in_o this_o place_n of_o matthew_n christ_n allude_v to_o it_o and_o much_o less_o that_o he_o ordain_v the_o like_a in_o his_o church_n but_o now_o i_o have_v show_v that_o the_o jew_n have_v no_o such_o ecclesiastical_a senate_n and_o therefore_o out_o of_o this_o place_n nothing_o can_v with_o any_o show_n of_o probability_n be_v conclude_v for_o lay-elder_n the_o second_o testimony_n t._n c._n urge_v thus_o 1.174_o diverse_a minister_n be_v not_o ordain_v in_o every_o congregation_n diverse_a elder_n be_v ordain_v in_o every_o congregation_n therefore_o there_o be_v elder_n which_o be_v not_o minister_n the_o proposition_n he_o prove_v because_o it_o be_v not_o like_a that_o they_o have_v diverse_a minister_n for_o such_o a_o number_n of_o congregation_n as_o be_v then_o to_o be_v preach_v unto_o i_o distinguish_v of_o the_o word_n congregation_n which_o t._n c._n use_v ambiguous_o for_o in_o the_o assumption_n it_o signify_v the_o church_n of_o a_o whole_a city_n in_o which_o sense_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v all_o one_o 14.23_o and_o so_o it_o be_v true_a that_o diverse_a presbyter_n be_v place_v in_o every_o church_n in_o the_o proposition_n as_o appear_v by_o the_o prosyllogisme_n it_o signify_v every_o particular_a congregation_n which_o t._n c._n seem_v to_o acknowledge_v to_o have_v be_v diverse_a in_o every_o city_n or_o church_n contrary_a to_o our_o 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but_o minister_n contrary_a to_o the_o perpetual_a use_n of_o the_o word_n neither_o can_v any_o interpreter_n be_v allege_v old_a or_o new_a that_o be_v not_o a_o party_n which_o do_v understand_v the_o word_n of_o lay-elder_n 14.23_o zanchius_n though_o a_o favourer_n of_o the_o presbytery_n reckon_v this_o place_n among_o those_o wherein_o minister_n of_o the_o word_n be_v call_v presbyter_n aretius_n though_o he_o acknowledge_v the_o distinction_n of_o presbyter_n into_o two_o sort_n yet_o he_o confess_v this_o place_n be_v as_o you_o hear_v before_o to_o be_v understand_v of_o minister_n calvin_n himself_o the_o principal_a patron_n of_o the_o eldership_n understand_v by_o presbyter_n in_o this_o place_n minister_n and_o preacher_n prebyteros_n his_o vocari_fw-la interpreter_n quibus_fw-la iniunctum_fw-la erat_fw-la docendi_fw-la munus_fw-la presbyter_n here_o i_o interpret_v those_o to_o be_v call_v to_o who_o the_o office_n of_o teach_v be_v enjoin_v yea_o but_o say_v t._n c._n 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to_o be_v observe_v that_o hitherto_o we_o have_v reckon_v those_o officer_n only_o which_o consist_v in_o the_o ministry_n of_o the_o word_n you_o see_v then_o how_o calvin_n in_o his_o institution_n urge_v this_o place_n in_o the_o epistle_n to_o titus_n for_o lay-elder_n will_v you_o also_o hear_v his_o judgement_n in_o his_o commentary_n upon_o the_o place_n 1.5_o although_o we_o gather_v say_v he_o out_o of_o the_o 1._o tim_n 5_o that_o there_o be_v two_o sort_n of_o presbyter_n yet_o the_o context_n here_o will_v straightway_o show_v that_o no_o other_o than_o doctor_n be_v here_o understand_v that_o be_v who_o be_v ordain_v to_o teach_v becà use_n by_o and_o by_o he_o will_v call_v they_o bishop_n but_o for_o all_o this_o t.c._n see_v not_o why_o it_o may_v not_o be_v refer_v to_o elder_n mean_v lay-elder_n as_o well_o as_o too_o bb_n meaning_n minister_n but_o say_v i_o you_o must_v see_v that_o lay-elder_n not_o only_o may_v but_o must_v necessary_o be_v understand_v in_o 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the_o apostle_n have_v say_v let_v the_o minister_n that_o rule_v well_o &c_n &c_n 7._o the_o second_o that_o by_o the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d which_o common_o be_v translate_v govern_v well_o i_o understand_v the_o commendable_a performance_n of_o their_o duty_n in_o general_a for_o the_o latter_a i_o allege_v the_o authority_n of_o jerome_n and_o of_o the_o syricke_n paraphra_v to_o who_o other_o may_v be_v add_v for_o the_o former_a i_o have_v the_o general_a consent_n of_o all_o the_o father_n and_o of_o all_o writer_n before_o our_o age_n who_o have_v expound_v this_o place_n and_o not_o one_o of_o they_o can_v be_v produce_v to_o the_o contrary_a and_o yet_o he_o be_v not_o ashamed_a to_o say_v that_o my_o interpretation_n have_v not_o the_o patronage_n of_o any_o one_o father_n and_o thus_o much_o of_o the_o proposition_n in_o confute_v whereof_o when_o he_o have_v spend_v five_o whole_a page_n with_o very_a ill_a success_n as_o you_o see_v he_o conclude_v with_o 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duty_n require_v peculiar_o of_o minister_n the_o duty_n for_o which_o double_a honour_n be_v due_a 1._o tim._n 5.17_o both_o general_a and_o special_a be_v the_o same_o with_o those_o which_o paul_n require_v act._n 20.28_o therefore_o the_o duty_n for_o which_o double_a honour_n be_v due_a 1._o tim._n 5_o 17._o be_v duty_n peculiar_o require_v of_o minister_n this_o latter_a syllogism_n my_o expert_a adversary_n observe_v not_o the_o former_a he_o flinge_v after_o his_o manner_n into_o a_o connexive_a syllogism_n for_o though_o his_o forge_n do_v scarce_o afford_v any_o other_o yet_o he_o have_v get_v a_o pretty_a smack_n of_o syllogize_v that_o way_n be_v it_o not_o that_o his_o syllogism_n for_o the_o most_o part_n be_v too_o long_o by_o the_o half_a but_o here_o he_o surpass_v himself_o for_o he_o have_v cast_v my_o whole_a syllogism_n into_o his_o connexive_a proposition_n and_o in_o his_o minor_fw-la repeat_v at_o large_a both_o the_o proposition_n and_o assumption_n but_o let_v we_o see_v what_o he_o say_v to_o these_o syllogism_n in_o the_o first_o he_o only_o deny_v my_o proposition_n viz._n that_o the_o presbyter_n act._n 20._o be_v none_o but_o minister_n which_o i_o must_v confess_v in_o that_o brevity_n i_o take_v for_o grant_v because_o i_o think_v it_o need_v not_o to_o be_v prove_v for_o see_v that_o verse_n be_v not_o only_o general_o understand_v even_o of_o they_o which_o stand_v for_o lay_v elder_n write_v not_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 1_o but_o comment_v upon_o or_o otherwise_o expound_v that_o place_n of_o minister_n but_o also_o be_v allege_v both_o by_o protestant_n and_o papist_n to_o justify_v the_o call_n of_o bb._n i_o do_v presume_v that_o it_o be_v to_o be_v understand_v of_o such_o only_a as_o be_v minister_n at_o the_o least_o but_o that_o which_o before_o be_v for_o brevity_n omit_v shall_v now_o be_v supply_v first_o therefore_o i_o argue_v thus_o all_o those_o that_o be_v call_v bb._n in_o the_o act_n and_o write_n of_o the_o apostle_n be_v minister_n of_o the_o word_n all_o the_o presbyter_n to_o who_o paul_n speak_v act._n 20.28_o be_v call_v bb._n therefore_o all_o the_o presbyter_n to_o who_o paul_n speak_v act._n 20.28_o be_v minister_n of_o the_o word_n or_o thus_o lay-elder_n be_v no_o where_o call_v bb._n all_o the_o presbyter_n act._n 20.28_o be_v call_v bishop_n therefore_o none_o of_o those_o presbyter_n be_v lay-elder_n shall_v i_o need_v to_o prove_v any_o of_o the_o premise_n be_v our_o presbyterian_o of_o late_a grow_v so_o absurd_a as_o to_o deny_v they_o what_o be_v not_o all_o bb._n minister_n and_o be_v your_o lay-elder_n grow_v of_o late_a to_o be_v bishop_n do_v not_o our_o refuter_fw-la pag_n â—_o affirm_v that_o these_o presbyter_n act._n 20._o be_v angel_n and_o bishop_n and_o that_o angel_n be_v pastor_n and_o be_v lay-elder_n angel_n and_o pastor_n too_o â—ie_v for_o shame_n and_o yet_o so_o absurd_a be_v our_o refuter_fw-la as_o to_o say_v that_o some_o of_o these_o elder_n who_o paul_n call_v bishop_n be_v not_o minister_n but_o their_o lay_n or_o onely-governing_a elder_n 11._o but_o if_o either_o reason_n or_o authority_n will_v prevail_v with_o he_o he_o may_v easy_o be_v confute_v my_o reason_n i_o frame_v thus_o all_o episcopi_fw-la or_o bishop_n must_v by_o the_o apostle_n rule_v which_o be_v general_a be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d able_a to_o teach_v 1._o tim._n 3.2_o that_o be_v as_o he_o expound_v himself_o tit._n 1.9_o hold_v fast_o the_o faithful_a word_n according_a to_o doctrine_n that_o they_o may_v be_v able_a to_o exhort_v with_o wholesome_a doctrine_n and_o convince_v the_o gainsayers_a but_o not_o lay-elder_n nor_o any_o but_o minister_n do_v need_n by_o the_o apostle_n rule_v to_o be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d able_a to_o preach_v in_o that_o sense_n that_o he_o expound_v it_o tit._n 1.9_o for_o on_o those_o word_n calvin_n observe_v that_o it_o be_v require_v in_o they_o that_o they_o shall_v be_v learn_v and_o endue_v with_o sound_a knowledge_n and_o that_o their_o doctrine_n shall_v tend_v to_o edification_n etc._n etc._n therefore_o not_o lay-elder_n nor_o any_o but_o minister_n be_v bishop_n as_o for_o authority_n let_v he_o show_v i_o any_o testimony_n of_o scripture_n or_o of_o any_o sound_a writer_n old_a or_o new_a that_o be_v not_o a_o party_n use_v the_o word_n bishop_n for_o lay-elder_n or_o any_o one_o that_o be_v not_o a_o minister_n 8._o and_o i_o will_v yield_v to_o he_o the_o buckler_n calvin_n though_o a_o party_n plain_o say_v that_o the_o scripture_n use_v promiscuous_o these_o word_n bishop_n presbyter_n pastor_n &_o minister_n to_o signify_v those_o who_o do_v exercise_v the_o ministry_n of_o the_o word_n and_o have_v entreat_v of_o they_o in_o conclusion_n he_o say_v that_o as_o yet_o he_o have_v not_o speak_v of_o any_o other_o function_n but_o such_o as_o consist_v in_o the_o ministry_n of_o the_o word_n and_o in_o another_o place_n although_o he_o collâ—teth_v out_o of_o 1._o tim._n 5.17_o two_o sort_n of_o presbyter_n 1.5_o yet_o he_o say_v that_o the_o presbyter_n mention_v tit._n 1.5_o be_v by_o the_o context_n manifest_v to_o be_v no_o other_o but_o doctor_n or_o teacher_n because_o paul_n present_o after_o call_v they_o bishop_n 101._o the_o author_n of_o the_o book_n de_fw-fr ecclesiastica_fw-la disciplina_fw-la and_o of_o the_o defence_n thereof_o ingenuous_o confess_v that_o only_a pastor_n and_o teacher_n be_v bishop_n and_o that_o roll_a elder_n be_v not_o comprehend_v under_o the_o name_n bishop_n and_o so_o far_o be_v he_o from_o comprehend_v they_o under_o the_o title_n of_o bishop_n that_o although_o he_o be_v resolve_v to_o find_v a_o room_n for_o they_o 1._o tim._n 3._o yet_o he_o dare_v not_o comprise_v they_o under_o the_o title_n and_o description_n of_o a_o bishop_n though_o the_o bishop_n be_v all_o one_o with_o presbyter_n tit._n 1.5.7_o but_o shrowd_v they_o under_o the_o title_n and_o description_n of_o deacon_n as_o hereafter_o we_o 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in_o the_o way_n of_o truth_n that_o among_o all_o my_o allegation_n the_o refuter_fw-la have_v not_o be_v able_a to_o charge_v i_o with_o misalledge_v any_o one_o as_o for_o this_o nothing_o can_v be_v more_o pregnant_a and_o pertinent_a to_o prove_v that_o bb_n be_v superior_a to_o presbyter_n in_o ordination_n then_o as_o i_o say_v in_o the_o sermon_n that_o jerome_n himself_o even_o when_o and_o where_o he_o seek_v to_o advance_v the_o presbyter_n as_o high_a as_o he_o can_v above_o the_o deacon_n do_v confess_v ordination_n to_o be_v peculiar_a to_o bishop_n now_o whereas_o jerome_n say_v a_o presbyter_n may_v do_v any_o thing_n which_o a_o bishop_n do_v jurisdiction_n except_v ordination_n i_o do_v easy_o foresee_v it_o will_v be_v object_v that_o if_o bb._n be_v superior_a only_o in_o the_o power_n of_o ordination_n then_o be_v they_o not_o superior_a in_o jurisdiction_n this_o objection_n i_o prevent_v in_o these_o word_n where_o you_o be_v not_o to_o understand_v he_o or_o 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to_o the_o b._n ne_o a_o multis_fw-la disciplina_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la vendicata_fw-la concordiam_fw-la sacerdotum_fw-la solueret_fw-la et_fw-la scandala_fw-la generaret_fw-la make_v choice_n of_o this_o other_o as_o the_o more_o like_a to_o be_v true_a not_o that_o i_o absolute_o be_v of_o this_o judgement_n that_o the_o right_n of_o ordination_n do_v belong_v to_o the_o power_n of_o episcopal_a order_n as_o appear_z by_o that_o supposal_n which_o i_o make_v in_o the_o sermon_n page_n 44._o l._n 3._o but_o that_o i_o suppose_v it_o to_o be_v the_o judgement_n of_o jerome_n and_o some_o other_o father_n who_o acknowledge_v the_o bishop_n to_o be_v superior_a in_o jurisdiction_n and_o yet_o affirm_v that_o he_o be_v superior_a only_o in_o the_o right_n of_o ordination_n or_o impose_v hand_n must_v thus_o be_v understand_v as_o judge_v the_o bishop_n to_o be_v superior_a only_o therein_o quoad_fw-la ordinis_fw-la potestatem_fw-la as_o touch_v the_o power_n of_o order_n they_o hold_v 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true_a or_o false_a and_o i_o hope_v in_o god_n that_o which_o now_o i_o have_v write_v in_o defence_n of_o that_o which_o they_o hear_v will_v not_o only_o satisfy_v those_o which_o be_v not_o wilful_o addict_v to_o your_o novelty_n but_o also_o convict_v the_o conscience_n of_o the_o gainsayer_n who_o i_o desire_v in_o the_o fear_n of_o god_n to_o take_v heed_n how_o they_o resist_v a_o truth_n whereof_o their_o conscience_n be_v convict_v 9.5_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d it_o be_v hard_o to_o kick_v against_o the_o prick_n to_o that_o which_o he_o object_v concern_v the_o mention_v of_o provincial_a bishop_n who_o i_o do_v not_o name_v before_o i_o answer_v that_o although_o i_o do_v not_o express_o and_o by_o name_n argue_v for_o provincial_a bishop_n yet_o diverse_a of_o my_o proof_n be_v direct_o of_o they_o and_o by_o a_o consequence_n from_o the_o great_a to_o the_o less_o apply_v to_o bishop_n as_o also_o by_o this_o reason_n because_o eevery_n provincial_a bishop_n be_v a_o diocesan_n bishop_n though_o not_o contrariwise_o to_o his_o other_o cavil_n of_o not_o direct_v conclude_v i_o have_v answer_v already_o 4._o or_o 5._o time_n 106._o but_o before_o i_o end_v this_o 4._o point_n i_o think_v it_o needful_a to_o prevent_v a_o objection_n which_o be_v usual_o make_v that_o whatsoever_o the_o office_n of_o the_o ancient_a bishop_n be_v yet_o they_o be_v not_o call_v lord_n as_o we_o be_v whereunto_o i_o answer_v that_o man_n be_v not_o to_o be_v offend_v at_o that_o title_n for_o these_o two_o cause_n 1._o because_o it_o be_v a_o title_n in_o the_o holy_a scripture_n give_v both_o to_o natural_a and_o spiritual_a father_n as_o i_o prove_v out_o of_o genesis_n 3â—_n 35.1_o king_n 18.7.13_o 2._o because_o the_o title_n of_o angel_n which_o the_o holy_a ghost_n in_o this_o place_n give_v to_o they_o be_v a_o title_n of_o great_a honour_n than_o the_o other_o by_o how_o much_o the_o heavenly_a governor_n of_o man_n under_o god_n be_v more_o excellent_a 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it_o be_v something_o foolish_a to_o say_v and_o my_o sir_n yea_o but_o say_v he_o the_o word_n lord_n with_o we_o be_v appropriate_v to_o man_n of_o nobility_n and_o special_a place_n in_o civil_a government_n to_o omit_v that_o it_o be_v not_o so_o appropriate_v to_o they_o but_o that_o even_o mean_a gentleman_n be_v so_o call_v in_o respect_n of_o the_o manor_n which_o they_o hold_v it_o appear_v by_o that_o which_o have_v be_v say_v that_o bishop_n not_o only_o now_o have_v but_o in_o the_o primitive_a church_n have_v as_o special_a and_o as_o honourable_a a_o place_n in_o the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n as_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n he_o speak_v of_o have_v in_o the_o common_a wealth_n their_o call_n also_o be_v more_o honourable_a i_o see_v no_o reason_n why_o they_o shall_v be_v envy_a a_o equal_a title_n of_o honour_n to_o the_o latter_a reason_n he_o answer_v 2._o thing_n 2._o first_o that_o the_o title_n of_o honour_n now_o give_v to_o bishop_n be_v also_o inferior_a to_o the_o title_n of_o angel_n which_o the_o holy_a ghost_n give_v they_o and_o yet_o then_o they_o have_v they_o not_o nor_o till_o popery_n he_o mean_v the_o papacy_n be_v grow_v to_o his_o full_a height_n his_o simple_a reader_n will_v think_v that_o he_o speak_v upon_o certain_a knowledge_n and_o can_v but_o believe_v he_o and_o so_o be_v deceive_v by_o his_o confident_a speech_n but_o he_o speak_v at_o all_o adventure_n as_o his_o affection_n not_o as_o his_o knowledge_n lead_v he_o the_o papacy_n come_v not_o to_o the_o full_a height_n until_o the_o time_n of_o hildebrand_n which_o be_v above_o a_o thousand_o year_n after_o christ_n when_o the_o pope_n have_v get_v the_o temporal_a supremacy_n and_o so_o both_o the_o sword_n the_o beginning_n of_o that_o which_o our_o writer_n call_v the_o papacy_n be_v when_o the_o pope_n first_o obtain_v the_o spiritual_a supremacy_n which_o be_v about_o the_o year_n six_o hundred_o and_o seven_o if_o therefore_o i_o shall_v prove_v that_o bishop_n have_v as_o honourable_a title_n in_o the_o first_o six_o hundred_o year_n as_o they_o have_v now_o with_o we_o i_o shall_v evince_v that_o not_o only_o before_o the_o height_n but_o before_o the_o arise_v of_o the_o papacy_n they_o be_v call_v lord_n and_o by_o other_o title_n no_o less_o honourable_a than_o lord_n but_o i_o will_v not_o desire_v so_o large_a a_o scope_n the_o most_o of_o my_o proof_n shall_v be_v contain_v within_o three_o or_o four_o hundred_o year_n after_o the_o death_n of_o christ._n alexander_n therefore_o the_o bishop_n of_o alexandria_n write_v to_o alexander_n bishop_n of_o constantinople_n give_v he_o this_o stile_n 4._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d to_o my_o most_o honourable_a brother_n not_o long_o after_o arius_n write_v thus_o to_o eusebius_n of_o nicomedia_n 5._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d to_o my_o most_o desire_a lord_n the_o same_o eusebius_n 6._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d to_o my_o lord_n paulinus_n bishop_n of_o trever_n use_v also_o the_o same_o title_n more_o than_o once_o in_o the_o same_o epistle_n of_o eusebius_n of_o caesaria_n call_v he_o my_o lord_n eusebius_n for_o though_o these_o two_o who_o i_o last_o cite_v be_v not_o sound_v in_o the_o faith_n yet_o their_o writing_n show_v what_o be_v the_o custom_n of_o the_o church_n before_o the_o council_n of_o nice_a not_o long_o after_o the_o same_o council_n athanasius_n succeed_v the_o foresay_a alexander_n in_o his_o behalf_n the_o bishop_n which_o come_v out_o of_o egypt_n write_v to_o the_o bishop_n assemble_v in_o council_n at_o tyrus_n 2._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d to_o our_o most_o honourable_a lord_n the_o synod_n hold_v at_o jerusalem_n 22._o write_v also_o in_o his_o behalf_n to_o the_o presbyter_n deacon_n &_o people_n in_o egypt_n lybia_n &_o alexandria_n move_v they_o to_o be_v thankful_a unto_o god_n who_o have_v now_o say_v they_o restore_v unto_o you_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d your_o pastor_n and_o lord_n about_o the_o same_o time_n certain_a bb._n direct_v their_o letter_n to_o julius_n b._n of_o rome_n 23._o the_o great_a patron_n of_o athanasius_n under_o this_o stile_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d to_o the_o most_o bless_a lord_n etc._n etc._n gregory_n nazianzen_n nyss._n write_v to_o gregory_n nyssen_n concern_v a_o false_a report_n which_o have_v be_v spread_v that_o the_o bb._n have_v put_v he_o by_o the_o bishopric_n say_v let_v no_o man_n speak_v untruth_n of_o i_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d nor_o of_o my_o lord_n the_o bb._n the_o council_n hold_v at_o illyricum_n write_v to_o the_o church_n and_o bishop_n of_o asia_n and_o phrygia_n etc._n etc._n have_v these_o word_n 9_o we_o have_v send_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d our_o lord_n and_o fellow_n minister_n elpidius_n to_o take_v notice_n of_o your_o doctrine_n whether_o it_o be_v as_o we_o have_v hear_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d of_o our_o lord_n and_o fellow_n minister_n eustathius_n george_n the_o bishop_n of_o laodicea_n 13._o 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〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d as_o he_o say_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d unless_o my_o adversary_n call_v he_o a_o eloquent_a man_n and_o powerful_a in_o speech_n who_o speak_v the_o truth_n second_o he_o prove_v my_o doctrine_n to_o be_v dangerous_a paâ—â—â—_n by_o a_o induction_n or_o particular_a enumeration_n of_o the_o hurt_n which_o as_o he_o imagine_v be_v like_a to_o come_v to_o the_o church_n of_o god_n thereby_o if_o it_o be_v not_o confute_v the_o papist_n say_v he_o will_v be_v much_o advantage_v see_v that_o antichristian_a doctrine_n even_o after_o the_o renew_n and_o reviue_v of_o their_o ceremony_n among_o we_o so_o free_o preach_v and_o publish_v tend_v to_o the_o uphold_v of_o their_o hierarchy_n from_o the_o pope_n to_o the_o apparitor_n as_o well_o as_o we_o his_o reason_n be_v indeed_o the_o very_a same_o with_o they_o as_o in_o the_o answer_n to_o they_o it_o shall_v appear_v the_o advantage_n which_o arise_v to_o the_o papist_n by_o this_o doctrine_n preach_v and_o the_o 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〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d able_a to_o preach_v as_o most_o plain_o appear_v by_o compare_v that_o place_n with_o tit._n 1.5_o 7.9_o socrates_n 22._o report_v that_o in_o caesarea_n of_o cappadocia_n and_o in_o cyprus_n on_o the_o saterdaies_n and_o lord_n day_n in_o the_o evening_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o presbyter_n and_o b_o b._n expound_v the_o scripture_n §_o sect._n 5._o as_o touch_v the_o custom_n of_o alexandria_n in_o restrain_v the_o presbyter_n from_o preach_v he_o 〈◊〉_d say_v that_o it_o begin_v after_o arrius_n trouble_v the_o church_n and_o sozomen_n 19_o likewise_o that_o it_o be_v not_o the_o custom_n before_o arrius_n be_v a_o presbyter_n by_o his_o preach_v broach_v his_o new_a opinion_n and_o this_o be_v most_o plain_o testify_v by_o epiphanius_n 68_o who_o say_v that_o arrius_n be_v a_o presbyter_n in_o alexandria_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d who_o be_v rector_n of_o the_o church_n call_v baucalis_n for_o all_o the_o catholic_a church_n say_v he_o in_o alexandria_n be_v under_o one_o archbishop_n and_o to_o they_o several_o be_v assign_v presbyter_n whereof_o when_o he_o have_v name_v some_o he_o say_v in_o one_o of_o these_o be_v colluthus_n in_o another_o carpone_n in_o another_o sarmatas_fw-la &_o arrius_n in_o another_o now_o it_o be_v manifest_a that_o every_o one_o of_o these_o at_o their_o accustom_a meeting_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d teach_v the_o people_n commit_v to_o their_o charge_n in_o their_o sermon_n make_v division_n in_o the_o people_n whereof_o some_o incline_v to_o arrius_n othersto_fw-la colluthus_n some_o to_o carpone_n other_o to_o sarmatas_fw-la and_o as_o they_o teach_v diverse_o in_o their_o several_a church_n some_o one_o thing_n some_o another_o so_o the_o people_n call_v themselves_o some_o arrian_n some_o colluthians_n etc._n etc._n neither_o be_v it_o the_o custom_n of_o the_o church_n of_o africa_n as_o t.c._n gather_v that_o presbyter_n shall_v not_o preach_v at_o all_o but_o that_o they_o may_v not_o preach_v nor_o administer_v the_o communion_n in_o the_o presence_n of_o the_o bishop_n and_o that_o be_v it_o which_o both_o valerius_n grant_v to_o augustine_n be_v a_o presbyter_n 5._o potestatem_fw-la coram_fw-la se_fw-la in_o ecclesia_fw-la euangelium_fw-la predicandi_fw-la power_n to_o preach_v the_o gospel_n in_o the_o church_n himself_o be_v present_a contrary_a to_o the_o use_n and_o custom_n of_o the_o african_a church_n and_o also_o nonnulli_fw-la episcopi_fw-la not_o all_o but_o some_o bishop_n find_v fault_n with_o who_o reprehension_n valerius_n regard_v not_o because_o he_o know_v it_o be_v the_o custom_n in_o the_o east_n church_n as_o appear_v by_o chrysostom_n homily_n at_o antioch_n and_o some_o other_o bishop_n even_o aurelius_n 77._o himself_o the_o bishop_n of_o carthage_n be_v so_o far_o from_o find_v fault_n with_o valerius_n that_o they_o follow_v his_o example_n insomuch_o that_o some_o other_o presbyter_n have_v receive_v the_o like_a power_n begin_v to_o preach_v the_o word_n to_o the_o people_n coram_fw-la episcopis_fw-la in_o the_o presence_n of_o the_o bishop_n but_o that_o so_o learned_a a_o man_n as_o t._n c._n shall_v be_v so_o transport_v with_o prejudice_n as_o to_o think_v that_o augustine_n be_v a_o lay-presbyte_a i_o can_v sufficient_o wonder_v especial_o consider_v that_o valerius_n when_o he_o have_v ordain_v he_o presbyter_n rejoice_v and_o give_v thanks_n 5._o to_o god_n who_o have_v hear_v his_o prayer_n in_o send_v such_o a_o one_o as_o might_n verbo_fw-la dei_fw-la &_o doctrina_fw-la salubri_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la dei_fw-la aedeficare_fw-la edify_v the_o church_n of_o god_n with_o the_o word_n of_o god_n and_o wholesome_a doctrine_n jerome_n eccle._n such_o another_o lay-presbyter_n no_o doubt_n though_o he_o grant_v that_o the_o presbyter_n may_v not_o celebrate_v the_o communion_n in_o the_o presence_n of_o the_o bishop_n stand_v at_o the_o altar_n for_o so_o his_o word_n be_v nec_fw-la ego_fw-la dico_fw-la presentibus_fw-la episcopis_fw-la &c_n &c_n though_o in_o gratian_n 6._o it_o be_v corrupt_o write_v ecce_fw-la ego_fw-la dico_fw-la yet_o he_o say_v loqui_fw-la it_o be_v a_o very_a bad_a custom_n in_o some_o church_n that_o presbyter_n may_v not_o preach_v in_o the_o presence_n of_o bishop_n and_o such_o be_v the_o custom_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n as_o appear_v by_o leo_n fine_a who_o deny_v it_o to_o be_v lawful_a for_o presbyter_n in_o the_o presence_n of_o the_o bishop_n unless_o he_o command_v they_o either_o to_o administer_v the_o sacrament_n of_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n or_o to_o teach_v the_o people_n etc._n etc._n the_o council_n of_o vaux_n 2._o hold_v not_o long_o after_o ambrose_n his_o time_n decree_v for_o the_o edification_n of_o all_o church_n and_o for_o the_o profit_n of_o the_o whole_a people_n that_o not_o only_o in_o city_n but_o also_o in_o parish_n the_o presbyter_n shall_v have_v power_n give_v they_o to_o preach_v and_o if_o by_o any_o infirmity_n the_o presbyter_n be_v hinder_v so_o that_o he_o can_v not_o preach_v by_o himself_o that_o then_o the_o deacon_n shall_v read_v some_o homily_n of_o the_o father_n to_o conclude_v it_o seem_v strange_a to_o i_o that_o they_o who_o out_o of_o the_o euag._n father_n will_v prove_v the_o presbyter_n to_o be_v equal_a to_o the_o bb._n in_o power_n of_o order_n as_o indeed_o they_o be_v except_v the_o power_n of_o ordination_n for_o as_o jerome_n adevagr_n say_v except_v ordination_n what_o do_v a_o bishop_n that_o a_o presbyter_n may_v not_o do_v equal_v i_o say_v in_o the_o ministry_n of_o the_o word_n and_o sacrament_n shall_v deny_v they_o be_v minister_n or_o that_o to_o preach_v or_o to_o administer_v the_o sacrament_n do_v not_o belong_v to_o they_o by_o reason_n of_o their_o office_n ambrose_n 3._o say_v of_o a_o presbyter_n and_o bishop_n there_o be_v one_o order_n uterque_fw-la enim_fw-la sacerdos_fw-la est_fw-la for_o either_o of_o they_o be_v a_o priest_n there_o remain_v the_o law_n and_o discipline_n peculiar_a to_o presbyter_n as_o be_v of_o the_o sacred_a ministry_n as_o for_o example_n that_o presbyter_n and_o deacon_n shall_v not_o be_v choose_v ex_fw-la plebe_fw-la out_o of_o the_o people_n or_o laity_n but_o 9_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d out_o of_o the_o sacred_a order_n or_o clergy_n that_o as_o in_o the_o counsel_n of_o nice_a it_o be_v attempt_v 11._o so_o in_o some_o other_o conclude_v 3._o that_o presbyter_n and_o deacon_n shall_v lead_v a_o single_a life_n that_o he_o which_o have_v marry_v a_o widow_n or_o be_v the_o husband_n of_o a_o second_o wife_n may_v not_o be_v a_o presbyter_n that_o they_o may_v not_o take_v upon_o they_o worldly_a business_n not_o so_o much_o as_o 9_o gardianship_n that_o they_o may_v not_o 24._o remove_v from_o city_n to_o city_n or_o from_o one_o church_n to_o another_o without_o the_o leave_n of_o the_o bishop_n that_o they_o may_v not_o go_v into_o a_o tavern_n and_o such_o like_a it_o be_v therefore_o most_o evident_a that_o howsoever_o the_o bishop_n be_v call_v the_o doctor_n yet_o the_o presbyteri_fw-la also_o be_v minister_n neither_o can_v any_o one_o instance_n be_v give_v of_o a_o presbyter_n either_o in_o or_o before_o or_o after_o ambrose_n his_o time_n who_o be_v not_o a_o minister_n for_o howsoever_o t._n c._n affirm_v that_o this_o eldership_n of_o they_o continue_v in_o the_o church_n diverse_a hundred_o year_n after_o ambrose_n his_o time_n which_o do_v not_o well_o agree_v with_o his_o exposition_n or_o read_n of_o ambrose_n yet_o be_v challenge_v by_o d._n whitgift_n 653._o to_o show_v any_o one_o testimony_n and_o avouch_v that_o he_o can_v not_o produce_v any_o one_o he_o b._n answer_v thus_o the_o next_o i_o leave_v to_o the_o reader_n judgement_n for_o the_o three_o there_o be_v great_a necessity_n that_o the_o bishop_n in_o the_o primitive_a church_n when_o they_o have_v neither_o the_o assistance_n of_o the_o magistrate_n nor_o direction_n of_o ecclesiastical_a law_n shall_v use_v the_o council_n and_o assistance_n of_o wise_a and_o learned_a man_n for_o which_o cause_n cyprian_a 22_o to_o avoid_v both_o oversight_n in_o himself_o and_o offence_n in_o other_o resolve_v to_o do_v nothing_o of_o moment_n without_o the_o common_a council_n and_o advise_v of_o his_o clergy_n and_o for_o the_o same_o cause_n be_v chrysostome_n 556._o accuse_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d that_o without_o the_o presbytery_n and_o without_o the_o consent_n of_o his_o clergy_n he_o make_v ordination_n and_o that_o presbyter_n be_v wont_a to_o hear_v cause_n and_o to_o assist_v the_o b._n it_o appear_v by_o the_o testimony_n first_o of_o ignatius_n trall_n who_o call_v the_o presbytery_n the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d or_o consistory_n of_o god_n a_o band_n of_o apostle_n and_o the_o presbyter_n the_o councillor_n and_o coassessor_n of_o the_o bishop_n 2._o of_o tertullian_n 39_o precedent_n probati_fw-la
say_v to_o the_o prelate_n of_o the_o church_n who_o he_o understand_v by_o church_n bind_v he_o with_o band_n or_o cord_n etc._n etc._n theophylact_fw-mi explain_v the_o word_n thus_o 18._o if_o before_o two_o or_o three_o witness_n he_o be_v reprove_v shall_v not_o be_v ashamed_a 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d which_o oecolampadius_n translate_v thus_o circumflectuntur_fw-la ne_o graveris_fw-la tunc_fw-la in_o ecclesiae_fw-la suggestu_fw-la invulgare_fw-la peccatum_fw-la stick_v not_o then_o to_o publish_v his_o fault_n in_o the_o pulpit_n of_o the_o church_n or_o judgement_n seat_n but_o the_o accent_n show_v that_o by_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d we_o be_v to_o understand_v a_o tistites_fw-la or_o preside_v the_o prelate_n of_o the_o church_n and_o those_o word_n what_o you_o shall_v bind_v &c_n &c_n he_o expound_v thus_o if_o thou_o who_o be_v wrong_v shall_v hold_v the_o offender_n as_o a_o publican_n or_o ethnic_n even_o such_o a_o one_o he_o shall_v be_v in_o heaven_n but_o if_o thou_o lose_v he_o that_o be_v forgive_v he_o he_o shall_v be_v pardon_v in_o heaven_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d for_o not_o only_o what_o the_o priest_n loose_a be_v loose_v but_o also_o what_o we_o who_o be_v wrong_v do_v bind_v or_o loose_v the_o same_o shall_v be_v bind_v or_o loose_v where_o by_o priest_n he_o mean_v those_o who_o before_o he_o call_v the_o prelate_n of_o the_o church_n erasmus_n make_v this_o paraphrase_n 18._o if_o the_o offender_n be_v so_o untractable_a that_o he_o will_v be_v move_v neither_o with_o shame_n nor_o fear_n of_o judgement_n bring_v the_o matter_n to_o the_o congregation_n that_o either_o he_o maybe_o reform_v by_o the_o content_a of_o the_o multitude_n or_o by_o authority_n of_o they_o which_o be_v ruler_n ouâ—_n the_o multitude_n but_o if_o he_o be_v so_o far_o past_a cure_n that_o he_o will_v not_o be_v correct_v neither_o by_o secret_a and_o brotherly_a monition_n neither_o by_o the_o knowledge_n and_o consent_n of_o two_o or_o three_o neither_o by_o the_o shame_n of_o his_o fault_n utter_v and_o disclose_v neither_o by_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o â—hiefe_a ruler_n leave_v he_o to_o his_o disease_n my_o adversary_n therefore_o to_o salve_v his_o credit_n have_v need_n to_o bring_v those_o from_o who_o he_o have_v these_o testimony_n at_o the_o second_o or_o three_o hand_n to_o depose_v that_o chrysostome_n theophylact_fw-mi and_o erasmus_n do_v say_v that_o christ_n speak_v of_o lay-elder_n otherwise_o he_o will_v hardly_o escape_v the_o censure_n of_o imposture_n and_o seek_v to_o seduce_v the_o people_n with_o glorious_a show_n to_o the_o rest_n of_o his_o witness_n i_o answer_v that_o what_o new_a writer_n be_v party_n in_o the_o cause_n do_v testify_v without_o warrant_n of_o scripture_n evidence_n of_o reason_n or_o testimony_n of_o antiquity_n it_o deserve_v no_o credit_n 14.23_o the_o second_o testimony_n act._n 14.23_o that_o paul_n and_o barnabas_n ordain_v presbyter_n in_o every_o church_n therefore_o lay-elder_n how_o be_v this_o consequence_n prove_v because_o the_o greek_a scholiast_n and_o a_o few_o new_a writer_n say_v so_o but_o here_o the_o disputer_n for_o his_o credit_n sake_n must_v plead_v that_o he_o for_o his_o part_n never_o see_v the_o greek_a scholiast_n but_o receive_v this_o allegation_n from_o t._n c._n else_o he_o must_v be_v accuse_v either_o of_o gross_a ignorance_n or_o notorious_a falsification_n i_o see_v not_o say_v t._n c._n why_o it_o may_v not_o be_v refer_v to_o elder_n mean_v lay-elder_n as_o well_o as_o too_o bishop_n 36._o mean_v minister_n see_v s._n paul_n there_o set_v forth_o how_o they_o set_v a_o full_a order_n in_o the_o church_n and_o of_o that_o judgement_n be_v the_o greek_a scholiast_n which_o affirm_v that_o those_o which_o follow_v s._n paul_n and_o barnabas_n be_v worthy_a to_o be_v bishop_n and_o that_o they_o create_v of_o they_o elder_n and_o deacon_n understanding_n oecumenius_n as_o if_o by_o bishop_n he_o mean_v 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a_o ordinary_a power_n or_o right_a to_o ordain_v minister_n i_o mean_v presbyter_n and_o deacon_n i_o will_v promise_v to_o subscribe_v to_o his_o assertion_n but_o if_o he_o can_v do_v this_o as_o i_o know_v he_o can_v then_o let_v he_o for_o shame_n give_v place_n unto_o the_o truth_n again_o whereas_o epiphanius_n in_o the_o assumption_n say_v that_o bb._n beget_v father_n mean_v that_o they_o have_v power_n to_o ordain_v minister_n of_o the_o word_n and_o sacrament_n or_o as_o he_o expound_v himself_o 〈◊〉_d teacher_n he_o fond_o cavil_v at_o epiphanius_n word_n say_v that_o minister_n be_v no_o spiritual_a father_n until_o they_o beget_v child_n unto_o god_n why_o but_o their_o call_n be_v to_o be_v spiritual_a father_n ordain_v of_o god_n to_o this_o end_n that_o they_o may_v by_o the_o laver_n of_o regeneration_n &_o ministry_n of_o the_o gospel_n beget_v child_n unto_o god_n when_o stephen_n
the_o father_n have_v think_v the_o power_n of_o ordination_n to_o have_v be_v peculiar_a to_o bb._n by_o any_o ordinance_n of_o god_n they_o will_v not_o have_v allow_v any_o such_o ordination_n as_o i_o speak_v of_o without_o a_o b_o it_o follow_v not_o for_o though_o they_o hold_v the_o right_n of_o baptise_v to_o belong_v to_o the_o minister_n of_o the_o church_n by_o god_n ordinance_n though_o they_o hold_v the_o right_n of_o impose_v hand_n to_o be_v peculiar_a to_o the_o apostle_n and_o their_o successor_n yet_o in_o a_o case_n of_o necessity_n lucifer_n they_o hold_v baptism_n without_o a_o minister_n and_o confirmation_n without_o a_o b._n to_o be_v lawful_a in_o like_a manner_n though_o they_o hold_v that_o the_o right_n of_o ordination_n be_v peculiar_a to_o bishop_n by_o apostolical_a institution_n &_o therefore_o teach_v that_o none_o but_o bishop_n can_v regular_o and_o ordinary_o ordain_v notwithstanding_o in_o a_o case_n of_o necessity_n we_o may_v well_o think_v they_o will_v have_v allow_v of_o such_o a_o ordination_n as_o i_o speak_v of_o though_o as_o i_o say_v not_o as_o regular_a according_a to_o the_o rule_n of_o ordinary_a church_n government_n yet_o as_o effectual_a and_o justifiable_a in_o the_o want_n of_o a_o b._n if_o he_o still_o say_v they_o wouâ—d_v not_o then_o must_v he_o confess_v that_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o disciplinarian_o be_v such_o as_o the_o father_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n will_v in_o no_o case_n have_v allow_v and_o that_o be_v all_o the_o inconvenience_n that_o can_v come_v to_o our_o cause_n if_o my_o defence_n of_o they_o be_v not_o sufficient_a as_o for_o his_o cavil_n at_o my_o supposal_n of_o the_o right_n of_o ordination_n to_o belong_v to_o the_o power_n of_o order_n in_o bb._n i_o have_v answer_v before_o to_o such_o objection_n one_o answer_n be_v enough_o two_o be_v too_o many_o and_o thus_o much_o of_o the_o bishop_n right_a in_o ordain_v chap._n v._o that_o bishop_n be_v superior_a to_o other_o minister_n in_o the_o power_n of_o jurisdiction_n serm._n sect_n 9_o pag._n 45._o now_o i_o be_o to_o show_v that_o the_o b._n be_v superior_a also_o in_o the_o power_n of_o jurisdiction_n the_o presbyter_n indeed_o etc._n etc._n to_o the_o end_n of_o the_o page_n here_o the_o reader_n be_v to_o observe_v what_o be_v by_o i_o propound_v to_o be_v prove_v not_o that_o the_o bb._n have_v or_o have_v the_o sole_a power_n of_o jurisdiction_n the_o defence_n whereof_o the_o refuter_fw-la every_o where_o will_v fain_o force_v upon_o i_o but_o that_o they_o be_v and_o be_v superior_a in_o the_o power_n of_o jurisdiction_n or_o government_n i_o deny_v not_o the_o presbyter_n which_o have_v charge_n of_o soul_n to_o have_v jurisdiction_n both_o several_o in_o their_o parish_n and_o joint_o in_o provincial_a synod_n and_o i_o have_v confess_v before_o that_o presbyter_n have_v with_o and_o under_o the_o bishop_n exercise_v some_o jurisdiction_n i_o grant_v that_o godly_a bb._n before_o they_o have_v the_o countenance_n and_o assistance_n of_o christian_a magistrate_n and_o direction_n of_o christian_a law_n use_v in_o all_o matter_n of_o moment_n to_o consult_v with_o their_o clergy_n imitate_v therein_o as_o jerome_n 1._o speak_v the_o example_n of_o moses_n quâ—_n cum_fw-la haberet_fw-la in_o potestate_fw-la solus_fw-la praesse_fw-la populo_fw-la who_o when_o it_o be_v in_o his_o power_n to_o govern_v the_o people_n alone_o he_o choose_v seventy_o with_o who_o to_o judge_v the_o people_n this_o be_v practise_v by_o cyprian_a f._n who_o resolve_v from_o the_o begin_n of_o his_o bishopric_n to_o do_v nothing_o of_o importance_n alone_o because_o he_o will_v prevent_v dissension_n and_o scandal_n ambrose_n â—_o also_o teach_v that_o there_o be_v a_o time_n when_o nothing_o be_v do_v without_o the_o advice_n of_o the_o presbyter_n who_o therefore_o by_o ignatius_n trall_n be_v call_v the_o counselor_n and_o coassessour_n of_o the_o b._n which_o course_n if_o it_o be_v use_v still_o as_o it_o will_v ease_v the_o bishop_n burden_n very_o much_o so_o will_v it_o nothing_o detract_v from_o their_o superiority_n in_o govern_v the_o sway_n of_o their_o authority_n be_v no_o less_o when_o they_o use_v the_o advice_n of_o their_o presbyter_n then_o when_o they_o use_v it_o not_o for_o the_o assistance_n of_o the_o presbyter_n be_v to_o help_v and_o advice_n but_o never_o to_o over-rule_v the_o bishop_n neither_o will_v any_o man_n say_v that_o the_o authority_n of_o a_o prince_n who_o use_v the_o advice_n of_o his_o counsel_n be_v the_o less_o for_o it_o but_o the_o moâ—e_n advise_v but_o what_o the_o authority_n of_o bb._n be_v in_o the_o primitive_a church_n in_o respect_n of_o government_n absolute_o i_o will_v first_o show_v absolute_o and_o then_o by_o way_n of_o comparison_n with_o presbyter_n what_o the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d as_o the_o council_n of_o 68_o carthage_n call_v the_o authority_n of_o bb._n be_v may_v first_o appear_v by_o this_o that_o they_o be_v account_v the_o governor_n and_o ruler_n of_o the_o church_n mean_v thereby_o diocese_n for_o though_o there_o be_v many_o minister_n who_o be_v angel_n pastor_n bishop_n yâ—t_v there_o be_v but_o one_o in_o every_o church_n who_o be_v the_o angel_n the_o pastor_n the_o bishop_n the_o governor_n of_o the_o church_n bear_v as_o ignatius_n trall_n say_v the_o sway_n of_o authority_n above_o and_o over_o they_o all_o but_o i_o delight_v to_o hear_v jerome_n the_o only_a pretend_a patron_n of_o the_o disiplinarians_n who_o confess_v as_o we_o have_v hear_v lucifer_n that_o of_o necessity_n a_o peerless_a power_n and_o eminent_a above_o all_o be_v to_o be_v attribute_v to_o bishop_n and_o that_o the_o safety_n of_o the_o church_n depend_v thereon_o he_o therefore_o in_o his_o commentary_n upon_o 60._o isaiah_n chap._n 60._o verse_n 17._o read_v according_o to_o the_o septuag_n 〈◊〉_d i_o will_v give_v thy_o prince_n in_o peace_n and_o thy_o bishop_n in_o righteousness_n say_v herein_o the_o majesty_n of_o the_o holy_a scripture_n be_v to_o be_v admire_v which_o call_v principes_fw-la futuros_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la episcopos_fw-la the_o prince_n or_o ruler_n which_o shall_v be_v of_o the_o church_n bishop_n who_o visitation_n be_v all_o in_o peace_n and_o the_o name_n of_o their_o dignity_n mean_v their_o superintendencie_n in_o righteousness_n and_o on_o those_o word_n 44._o of_o the_o 45._o psalm_n in_o stead_n of_o father_n child_n shall_v be_v bear_v unto_o thou_o o_o church_n say_v he_o the_o apostle_n be_v thy_o father_n for_o they_o beget_v thou_o now_o forasmuch_o as_o they_o be_v go_v out_o of_o the_o world_n thou_o have_v bb._n who_o be_v bear_v of_o thou_o for_o these_o also_o be_v thy_o father_n because_o thou_o be_v govern_v of_o they_o and_o on_o the_o word_n follow_v who_o thou_o shall_v make_v prince_n in_o all_o the_o earth_n for_o say_v he_o in_o the_o name_n of_o god_n the_o gospel_n be_v spread_v in_o all_o end_n of_o the_o world_n in_o which_o principes_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la i._o episcopi_fw-la the_o prince_n of_o the_o church_n that_o be_v to_o say_v the_o bishop_n be_v place_v on_o which_o word_n augustine_n 44_o also_o do_v comment_n to_o the_o like_a purpose_n in_o stead_n of_o the_o apostle_n son_n be_v bear_v to_o thou_o bb._n be_v ordain_v think_v not_o thyself_o forsake_v because_o thou_o see_v not_o peter_n and_o paul_n who_o beg_v at_o thou_o of_o thy_o own_o issue_n be_v spring_v a_o fatherhood_n agnoscant_fw-la qui_fw-la prâ—cisi_fw-la sunt_fw-la veniant_fw-la ad_fw-la unitatem_fw-la etc._n etc._n let_v they_o which_o be_v precise_a or_o cut_v off_o by_o schism_n acknowledge_v it_o and_o come_v unto_o unity_n the_o church_n have_v bear_v son_n and_o in_o steed_n of_o her_o father_n have_v make_v they_o prince_n over_o all_o the_o earth_n optatus_n parmen_fw-la likewise_o call_v the_o bb_n apices_fw-la &_o principes_fw-la omnium_fw-la the_o council_n of_o carthage_n 35._o decree_v that_o when_o the_o donatist_n return_v to_o the_o church_n they_o shall_v be_v receive_v each_o one_o in_o their_o degree_n according_a to_o the_o will_n and_o pleasure_n of_o the_o b._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d who_o govern_v the_o church_n in_o the_o same_o place_n if_o he_o shall_v think_v it_o expedient_a for_o the_o peace_n of_o the_o church_n cyprian_n 3._o though_o he_o have_v approve_a cornelius_n his_o courage_n in_o that_o felicissimus_n a_o wicked_a schismatic_n attend_v with_o a_o troop_n of_o desperate_a fellow_n be_v by_o he_o vigore_fw-la pleno_fw-la quo_fw-la episcopum_fw-la agere_fw-la oportet_fw-la pulsus_fw-la de_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la with_o full_a vigour_n of_o authority_n and_o courage_n wherewith_o it_o behove_v a_o b_o to_o deal_n drive_v out_o of_o the_o church_n yet_o perceive_v he_o to_o be_v somewhat_o daunt_v with_o the_o threaten_n of_o those_o lewd_a companion_n if_o this_o be_v so_o say_v he_o that_o the_o
b._n geminianus_n and_o this_o be_v the_o usual_a stile_n which_o presbyter_n do_v use_v when_o they_o do_v subscribe_v to_o counsel_n instead_o of_o their_o b._n who_o place_n they_o supply_v as_o to_o the_o council_n of_o arles_n 3._o desiderius_n presbyter_n directus_fw-la à _fw-la domino_fw-la meo_fw-la joanne_n episcopo_fw-la direct_v from_o my_o lord_n john_n the_o b._n have_v give_v my_o consent_n and_o subscribe_v and_o so_o three_o other_o there_o mention_v &_o in_o like_a manner_n to_o diverse_a other_o etc._n counsel_n whosoever_o will_v peruse_v the_o act_n of_o the_o great_a council_n of_o chalcedon_n he_o shall_v seldom_o read_v any_o b._n mention_v without_o some_o title_n of_o great_a reverence_n and_o honour_n as_o reverendissimus_fw-la sanctissimus_fw-la and_o long_o before_o that_o socrates_n prooem_n acknowledge_v that_o it_o be_v the_o usual_a manner_n in_o his_o time_n not_o to_o speak_v of_o bb._n without_o title_n of_o great_a honour_n call_v they_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d most_o religious_a most_o holy_a or_o such_o like_a and_o 58.2_o chrysostome_n say_v plain_o that_o heretic_n have_v learn_v of_o the_o devil_n not_o to_o give_v due_a title_n of_o honour_n to_o bishop_n but_o where_o he_o find_v fault_n with_o they_o for_o that_o in_o stead_n of_o those_o title_n which_o argue_v their_o authority_n they_o say_v your_o reverence_n your_o wisdom_n and_o such_o like_a what_o will_v he_o have_v say_v to_o the_o term_n that_o have_v be_v usual_o give_v to_o our_o bishop_n by_o the_o disciplinarian_o among_o we_o i_o say_v among_o we_o for_o calvin_n beza_n and_o other_o when_o they_o have_v have_v occasion_n to_o write_v to_o our_o bishop_n have_v not_o refuse_v to_o give_v they_o their_o title_n of_o honour_n to_o omit_v the_o rest_n calvin_n cranmer_n write_v to_o archbishop_n cranmer_n use_v these_o title_n illustrissime_fw-la domine_fw-la ornatissime_fw-la &_o clarissime_fw-la praesul_fw-la etc._n etc._n zanchius_n elohius_fw-la to_o 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accusation_n but_o under_o two_o or_o three_o witness_n etc._n etc._n these_o be_v perpetual_a direction_n which_o be_v not_o common_a either_o to_o other_o christian_n or_o other_o minister_n therefore_o peculiar_a to_o bb._n and_o this_o be_v t._n c._n confutation_n of_o the_o proposition_n now_o let_v we_o hear_v what_o the_o refuter_fw-la can_v say_v the_o proposition_n say_v he_o confute_v be_v ground_v upon_o a_o false_a supposition_n and_o what_o be_v that_o that_o the_o apostle_n by_o describe_v in_o these_o epistle_n the_o rule_n to_o be_v observe_v in_o ordination_n and_o jurisdiction_n intend_v to_o inform_v timothy_n and_o titus_n as_o bb._n and_o in_o they_o all_o other_o bb._n how_o to_o carry_v themselves_o in_o those_o matter_n be_v this_o the_o supposition_n whereon_o the_o proposition_n be_v ground_v alas_o good_a man_n you_o know_v not_o 3._o what_o the_o hypothesis_n or_o supposition_n of_o a_o hipotheticall_a proposition_n be_v this_o which_o you_o suppose_v to_o 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ordination_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d for_o he_o write_v to_o a_o b._n and_o of_o titus_n 1._o he_o say_v that_o paul_n leave_v he_o to_o ordain_v bb._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d have_v first_o make_v he_o a_o b._n and_o of_o both_o on_o those_o 4._o word_n pastor_n and_o doctor_n he_o say_v paul_n mean_v such_o as_o to_z who_o trust_n the_o church_n be_v commit_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d bb._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d such_o as_o timothy_n and_o titus_n 16._o nicephorus_n 34._o say_v that_o after_o paul_n be_v first_o dismiss_v from_o rome_n he_o write_v his_o former_a epistle_n to_o timothy_n who_o he_o have_v ordain_v before_o b._n of_o ephesus_n and_o another_o epistle_n he_o write_v unto_o titus_n who_o have_v before_o ordain_v b._n of_o crect_n he_o have_v leave_v there_o to_o these_o i_o may_v add_v the_o testimony_n of_o diverse_a new_a writer_n but_o i_o will_v mention_v only_o a_o few_o who_o judgement_n the_o disciplinarian_o will_v not_o easy_o reject_v first_o therefore_o calvin_n 1._o in_o diverse_a place_n on_o the_o epistle_n to_o timothy_n do_v note_n that_o he_o be_v the_o pastor_n of_o the_o church_n at_o ephesus_n the_o author_n of_o the_o centurye_n euang._n say_v it_o be_v evident_a that_o paul_n appoint_v timothy_n the_o pastor_n to_o the_o church_n of_o ephesus_n d._n fulke_n 1.5_o say_v among_o the_o clergy_n for_o order_n and_o seemly_a government_n there_o be_v always_o one_o principal_a to_o who_o by_o long_a use_n of_o the_o church_n the_o name_n of_o b._n or_o superintendent_n have_v be_v apply_v which_o room_n titus_n exercise_v in_o creta_n timothy_n in_o ephesus_n and_o other_o in_o other_o place_n etc._n etc._n final_o beza_n 5.19_o himself_o note_v that_o timothy_n be_v the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d as_o justine_n call_v he_o that_o be_v antistes_fw-la or_o precedent_n in_o the_o presbytery_n at_o ephesus_n that_o be_v to_o say_v according_a to_o bezaes_n language_n a_o bishop_n testimony_n to_o the_o testimony_n which_o i_o produce_v the_o refuter_fw-la answer_v three_o thing_n first_o in_o effect_n this_o that_o though_o the_o father_n call_v they_o bb._n yet_o proper_o they_o be_v not_o bishop_n which_o bare_a denial_n of_o he_o if_o it_o be_v weigh_v with_o the_o testimony_n of_o the_o ancient_a which_o i_o name_v will_v prove_v as_o light_v as_o vanity_n itself_o second_o that_o the_o consent_n of_o the_o father_n be_v not_o so_o general_a as_o i_o will_v make_v man_n believe_v see_v both_o ambrose_n and_o ignatius_n do_v make_v timothy_n a_o deacon_n and_o for_o proof_n thereof_o he_o refer_v we_o to_o t.c._n who_o word_n be_v these_o 1.3.14_o all_o ancient_a writer_n be_v not_o of_o that_o judgement_n for_o not_o to_o speak_v of_o ambrose_n which_o call_v timothy_n a_o deacon_n where_o he_o oppose_v a_o deacon_n to_o a_o bishop_n ignatius_n trall_n a_o ancient_a writer_n say_v that_o he_o be_v a_o deacon_n &_o that_o where_o divide_v the_o ministery_n of_o the_o church_n into_o bishop_n and_o deacon_n etc._n etc._n do_v open_o oppose_v a_o deacon_n to_o a_o bishop_n little_a reason_n have_v t.c._n to_o speak_v of_o ambrose_n and_o therefore_o may_v well_o say_v not_o to_o speak_v of_o he_o for_o these_o be_v ambrose_n 1.1_o his_o word_n with_o the_o bb._n and_o deacon_n that_o be_v with_o paul_n and_o timothy_n qui_fw-la utique_fw-la episcopi_fw-la erant_fw-la who_o very_o be_v bishop_n he_o also_o signify_v the_o deacon_n which_o minister_v unto_o he_o for_o he_o write_v unto_o the_o people_n for_o if_o he_o have_v write_v to_o the_o bishop_n and_o deacon_n he_o will_v have_v write_v to_o their_o person_n and_o it_o have_v be_v fit_a that_o he_o shall_v have_v write_v to_o the_o bishop_n of_o the_o place_n not_o to_o two_o or_o three_o as_o he_o do_v to_o titus_n and_o to_o timothy_n ignatius_n trallian_n his_o word_n be_v these_o what_o be_v the_o deacon_n but_o the_o imitator_n of_o the_o evangelicall_a power_n minister_a unto_o he_o that_o be_v the_o bishop_n as_o the_o angel_n do_v to_o god_n a_o pure_a and_o blameless_a ministry_n as_o holy_a steven_n to_o james_n the_o bless_a and_o timothy_n and_o linus_n to_o paul_n anacletus_fw-la and_o clemens_n to_o peter_n distinguish_v the_o time_n and_o the_o answer_n be_v easy_a timothy_n be_v such_o a_o evangelist_n as_o first_o minister_v to_o paul_n as_o a_o deacon_n afterward_o be_v ordain_v presbyter_n as_o ambrose_n significat_fw-la say_v and_o last_o a_o bishop_n which_o be_v as_o the_o same_o ambrose_n 4._o say_v primus_fw-la presbyter_n but_o do_v his_o serve_v under_o paul_n as_o a_o deacon_n prove_v that_o afterward_o he_o be_v not_o a_o bishop_n nay_o rather_o his_o be_v a_o deacon_n and_o afterward_o a_o presbyter_n do_v prove_v he_o be_v not_o such_o a_o evangelist_n as_o the_o refuter_fw-la imagine_v and_o by_o as_o good_a reason_n he_o may_v prove_v that_o neither_o linus_n nor_o anacletus_fw-la nor_o clemens_n be_v bishop_n of_o rome_n because_o they_o have_v serve_v under_o peter_n and_o paul_n as_o deacon_n here_o be_v all_o that_o our_o refuter_fw-la can_v either_o by_o himself_o or_o with_o t._n c._n help_n object_n out_o of_o antiquity_n against_o timothy_n his_o be_v a_o bishop_n his_o three_o answer_n be_v that_o the_o scripture_n call_v he_o a_o evangelist_n 2_o tim._n 4.5_o and_o therefore_o he_o be_v no_o b._n which_o be_v the_o same_o with_o the_o second_o objection_n already_o answer_v i_o hope_v therefore_o i_o may_v be_v bold_a with_o the_o reader_n consent_v to_o conclude_v that_o timothy_n and_o titus_n be_v ordain_v bb._n by_o the_o apostle_n paul_n the_o one_o of_o ephesus_n the_o other_o of_o crect_n serm._n sect_n 10._o pag._n 81._o apostle_n to_o these_o mention_v in_o in_o the_o scripture_n we_o add_v other_o out_o of_o other_o the_o most_o ancient_a record_n of_o the_o church_n whereof_o some_o be_v make_v bb._n by_o peter_n &_o paul_n some_o by_o john_n the_o evangelist_n and_o other_o the_o apostle_n etc._n etc._n to_o pag._n 87._o l._n 1._o in_o this_o section_n i_o bring_v diverse_a most_o plain_a and_o pregnant_a evidence_n to_o prove_v that_o the_o apostle_n ordain_v bb_n note_v the_o place_n where_o and_o the_o person_n who_o they_o ordain_v the_o which_o because_o the_o refuter_fw-la pass_v over_o as_o it_o be_v in_o silence_n i_o will_v brief_o recite_v that_o it_o may_v appear_v to_o the_o reader_n that_o the_o refuter_fw-la have_v cause_v to_o be_v silent_a because_o the_o evidence_n of_o truth_n do_v put_v he_o to_o silence_n first_o i_o show_v out_o of_o 22._o eusebius_n that_o about_o the_o year_n forty_o five_o euodius_n be_v make_v bishop_n of_o antioch_n by_o the_o apostle_n peter_n and_o paul_n as_o ignatius_n antioch_n who_o succeed_v he_o in_o the_o apostle_n time_n do_v witness_n second_o that_o peter_n and_o paul_n ordain_v linus_n bishop_n of_o rome_n about_o the_o year_n 56_o who_o anacletus_fw-la succeed_v and_o after_o he_o clemens_n testify_v by_o 3_o irenaeus_n and_o 22._o eusebius_n three_o that_o by_o the_o appointment_n of_o peter_n mark_n be_v the_o first_o b._n of_o alexandria_n who_o anianus_n succeed_v in_o that_o bishopric_n after_o he_o abilius_n and_o then_o cerdo_v all_o in_o the_o apostle_n time_n testify_v by_o 99_o nicephorus_n gregory_n eusebius_n jerome_n and_o dorotheus_n four_o that_o after_o the_o death_n of_o james_n the_o just_a simon_n the_o son_n of_o cleophas_n be_v by_o the_o apostle_n which_o then_o be_v remain_v make_v bishop_n of_o jerusalem_n testify_v by_o 63._o hegesippus_n and_o eusebius_n five_o that_o john_n the_o apostle_n ordain_v polycarpe_n bishop_n of_o smyrna_n testify_v by_o catal._n irenaeus_n eusebius_n tertullian_n and_o jerome_n six_o that_o john_n after_o his_o return_n from_o exile_n ordain_v bb._n in_o diverse_a place_n testify_v by_o 23._o clemens_n
alexandrinus_n and_o eusebius_n final_o that_o the_o apostle_n commit_v the_o church_n which_o be_v in_o every_o place_n to_o bishop_n who_o they_o ordain_v leave_v they_o their_o successor_n testify_v by_o prescript_n irenaeus_n and_o tertullian_n who_o say_v that_o as_o smyrna_n have_v polycarpe_n from_o s._n john_n and_o rome_n clement_n by_o the_o appointment_n of_o peter_n so_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o church_n can_v show_v quos_fw-la ab_fw-la apostolis_n in_fw-la episcopatum_fw-la constitutos_fw-la apostoliâ—i_fw-la seminis_fw-la traduce_v habent_fw-la what_o bishop_n they_o have_v ordain_v by_o the_o apostle_n the_o deriver_n of_o the_o apostolical_a seed_n to_o all_o this_o he_o have_v nothing_o to_o answer_v but_o that_o which_o heretofore_o have_v be_v full_o refute_v that_o these_o bishop_n be_v but_o ordinary_a pastor_n of_o particular_a congregation_n etc._n etc._n saâ—ing_v that_o he_o take_v also_o exception_n against_o their_o assertion_n who_o say_v that_o bishop_n be_v the_o successor_n of_o the_o apostle_n but_o not_o only_a irenaeus_n and_o tertullian_n have_v avouch_v so_o much_o but_o diverse_a other_o of_o the_o father_n as_o cyprian_n jerome_n and_o augustine_n cyprian_n 9_o say_v praepositi_fw-la that_o be_v bishop_n apostolis_n vicaria_fw-la ordinatione_fw-la succedunt_fw-la succeed_v the_o apostle_n as_o be_v ordain_v in_o their_o steed_n and_o jerome_n euagr._fw-la say_v omnes_fw-la episcopi_fw-la apostolorum_fw-la successores_fw-la sunt_fw-la all_o bishop_n be_v the_o successor_n of_o the_o apostle_n and_o again_o he_o say_v monta._n episcopâ—s_v apostolis_n succedere_fw-la and_o theodoret_n 18._o call_v the_o government_n of_o bishop_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o likewise_o basill_n ambros._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o presidency_n of_o apostle_n who_o have_v deliver_v to_o bishop_n as_o irenaeus_n 3._o say_v their_o own_o place_n of_o government_n in_o the_o several_a church_n and_o this_o be_v that_o which_o both_o jerome_n 44._o and_o augustine_n expound_v those_o word_n of_o the_o 45._o psalm_n pro_fw-la patribus_fw-la nati_fw-la tibi_fw-la sunt_fw-la filii_fw-la have_v deliver_v that_o instead_o of_o the_o apostle_n bishop_n be_v ordain_v governor_n of_o the_o church_n in_o all_o part_n of_o the_o world_n which_o point_n be_v due_o to_o be_v consider_v for_o hereby_o it_o be_v manifest_a that_o the_o bishop_n have_v receive_v and_o derive_v their_o authority_n from_o the_o apostle_n who_o successor_n they_o be_v not_o only_o in_o respect_n of_o doctrine_n as_o all_o other_o true_a minister_n but_o also_o in_o the_o government_n of_o the_o several_a church_n and_o when_o the_o disciplinarian_o can_v show_v the_o like_a warrant_n for_o their_o presbyterye_n especial_o of_o lay-elder_n or_o our_o refuter_fw-la and_o his_o good_a friend_n the_o brownist_n for_o the_o chief_a authority_n of_o the_o people_n we_o will_v harken_v to_o they_o once_o it_o be_v evident_a that_o christ_n commit_v the_o authority_n and_o government_n of_o his_o church_n to_o his_o apostle_n who_o be_v to_o derive_v the_o same_o to_o other_o wherefore_o who_o have_v any_o ordinary_a right_n they_o have_v receive_v the_o same_o from_o the_o apostle_n so_o timothy_n and_o titus_n receive_v their_o authority_n from_o paul_n linus_n from_o peter_n and_o paul_n policarpus_fw-la from_o john_n etc._n etc._n and_o all_o other_o the_o first_o bishop_n from_o the_o apostle_n from_o who_o by_o a_o perpetual_a succession_n it_o have_v be_v derive_v to_o the_o bishop_n which_o be_v at_o this_o day_n but_o where_o be_v any_o evidence_n of_o the_o like_a derivation_n from_o the_o apostle_n of_o authority_n to_o the_o people_n of_o lay-elder_n i_o know_v not_o thus_o have_v i_o make_v good_a my_o former_a proof_n that_o the_o episcopal_a function_n be_v of_o apostolical_a institution_n the_o v._o chapter_n answer_v the_o allegation_n out_o of_o jerome_n serm._n sect._n 11._o pag._n 87._o against_o all_o this_o that_o have_v be_v say_v to_o prove_v that_o the_o episcopal_a function_n be_v of_o apostolical_a institution_n the_o authority_n of_o jerome_n be_v object_v etc._n etc._n to_o page_n 89._o against_o the_o testimony_n of_o man_n say_v the_o refuter_fw-la what_o be_v fit_a to_o be_v object_v than_o the_o authority_n of_o such_o a_o man_n as_o of_o set_a purpose_n dispute_v the_o question_n determine_v the_o contrary_a to_o that_o which_o be_v so_o common_o anouch_v which_o speech_n if_o it_o be_v due_o examine_v just_a exception_n may_v be_v take_v against_o every_o branch_n thereof_o for_o first_o he_o will_v insinuate_v that_o nothing_o have_v be_v bring_v to_o justify_v the_o call_n of_o bishop_n beside_o the_o testimony_n of_o man_n when_o beside_o the_o testimony_n of_o man_n i_o have_v bring_v good_a evidence_n of_o sound_a reason_n and_o beside_o that_o better_a proof_n out_o of_o the_o scripture_n to_o warrant_v the_o episcopal_a function_n than_o ever_o be_v or_o will_v be_v bring_v for_o the_o presbyterian_a discipline_n again_o it_o be_v fit_a and_o to_o better_a purpose_n against_o the_o testimony_n of_o man_n if_o i_o have_v produce_v no_o other_o proof_n to_o have_v bring_v either_o testimony_n of_o scripture_n or_o sound_a reason_n or_o for_o want_v of_o they_o the_o testimony_n of_o so_o many_o and_o so_o approve_a author_n to_o counterpoise_v the_o weight_n of_o their_o authority_n who_o have_v be_v allege_v on_o the_o contrary_a part_n but_o scripture_n fail_v reason_n want_v testimony_n of_o other_o father_n be_v to_o seek_v jerome_n alone_o must_v be_v fain_o to_o bear_v the_o whole_a burden_n of_o this_o cause_n for_o though_o some_o latter_a writer_n may_v be_v allege_v to_o the_o like_a purpose_n yet_o all_o be_v but_o jerome_n who_o not_o only_o judgement_n they_o follow_v but_o retain_v his_o word_n neither_o do_v jerome_n so_o oft_o dispute_v this_o question_n or_o determine_v the_o contrary_a as_o the_o refuter_fw-la in_o his_o shallow_a 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of_o any_o presbyter_n
as_o the_o episcopal_a function_n have_v be_v manifest_o prove_v to_o be_v lawful_a and_o good_a as_o be_v the_o ordinance_n of_o god_n so_o we_o will_v all_o be_v persuade_v to_o acknowledge_v it_o but_o the_o refuter_fw-la be_v like_o the_o deaf_a adder_n that_o stop_v her_o ear_n he_o will_v not_o be_v persuade_v though_o he_o be_v convict_v for_o though_o he_o brag_v that_o this_o answer_n of_o he_o do_v manifest_a that_o i_o have_v not_o bring_v any_o one_o good_a proof_n in_o the_o whole_a sermon_n yet_o this_o defence_n of_o i_o will_v make_v it_o evident_a that_o he_o have_v not_o be_v able_a to_o disprove_v any_o one_o of_o my_o proof_n which_o he_o have_v go_v about_o to_o answer_v for_o the_o most_o part_n with_o sound_a learning_n but_o to_o elude_v with_o shift_n and_o cavillation_n but_o some_o will_v say_v admit_v this_o be_v not_o all_o that_o you_o will_v persuade_v we_o unto_o that_o the_o function_n of_o bishop_n be_v lawful_a and_o good_a but_o when_o you_o say_v it_o be_v of_o divine_a institution_n you_o seem_v to_o mean_v that_o it_o be_v divini_fw-la iuris_fw-la and_o consequent_o that_o not_o only_o it_o be_v lawful_a but_o that_o it_o only_o be_v lawful_a and_o that_o all_o church_n be_v so_o perpetual_o and_o necessary_o tie_v unto_o it_o as_o that_o no_o other_o form_n of_o government_n be_v warrantable_a in_o the_o church_n of_o god_n my_o resolution_n of_o this_o doubt_n i_o signify_v before_o serm._n pag._n 92._o that_o i_o do_v not_o hold_v it_o so_o to_o be_v divini_fw-la iuris_fw-la as_o that_o necessary_o it_o be_v to_o be_v observe_v always_o and_o in_o all_o place_n and_o so_o himself_o confess_v pag._n 90._o of_o his_o book_n and_o therefore_o when_o he_o say_v my_o resolution_n be_v obscure_a and_o doubtful_a for_o double_v i_o leave_v to_o he_o he_o be_v dispose_v to_o cavil_n i_o refer_v indeed_o the_o consideration_n of_o this_o inference_n to_o our_o disciplinarian_o who_o have_v conceit_v the_o presbyterian_a platform_n 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in_o the_o conclusion_n of_o my_o sermon_n i_o do_v overthrow_v what_o before_o i_o have_v build_v but_o as_o always_o hitherto_o so_o now_o also_o he_o have_v show_v his_o malice_n to_o be_v great_a than_o his_o strength_n for_o though_o he_o charge_v i_o as_o have_v often_o and_o peremptory_o avouch_v the_o perpetual_a necessity_n of_o the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n by_o diocesan_n bishop_n yet_o neither_o often_o nor_o once_o neither_o peremptory_o nor_o at_o all_o neither_o the_o perpetual_a necessity_n nor_o any_o absolute_a necessity_n at_o all_o be_v urge_v in_o any_o one_o of_o the_o allegation_n which_o he_o so_o hot_o as_o it_o be_v with_o fire_n and_o tow_n object_v the_o first_o which_o be_v object_v out_o of_o pag._n 33._o have_v be_v explain_v before_o for_o when_o i_o say_v that_o as_o the_o government_n by_o bishop_n be_v first_o ordain_v for_o the_o preservation_n of_o the_o church_n in_o unity_n and_o for_o the_o avoid_v of_o schism_n so_o it_o be_v for_o the_o same_o cause_n to_o be_v retain_v i_o do_v not_o mean_v any_o absolute_a necessity_n of_o retain_v it_o but_o that_o as_o at_o the_o first_o it_o be_v ordain_v as_o be_v think_v fit_a expedient_a and_o needful_a to_o avoid_v schism_n so_o it_o be_v fit_a expedient_a and_o needful_a for_o the_o same_o cause_n to_o be_v retain_v neither_o do_v i_o see_v how_o he_o can_v infer_v this_o perpetual_a necessity_n which_o he_o talk_v of_o out_o of_o pag._n 72._o where_o i_o say_v the_o epistle_n to_o timothy_n and_o titus_n be_v the_o very_a pattern_n and_o precedent_n of_o the_o episcopal_a function_n whereby_o the_o apostle_n inform_v they_o and_o in_o they_o all_o bishop_n how_o to_o exercise_v their_o function_n touch_v ordination_n and_o jurisdiction_n for_o although_o paul_n give_v his_o direction_n primary_o to_o timothy_n and_o titus_n and_o to_o all_o such_o as_o shall_v have_v the_o like_a function_n that_o be_v to_o say_v bishop_n yet_o if_o this_o form_n of_o government_n be_v change_v those_o which_o shall_v exercise_v the_o like_a authority_n must_v follow_v those_o direction_n as_o be_v give_v though_o primary_o and_o direct_o to_o bishop_n yet_o secondary_o and_o by_o consequence_n to_o those_o who_o though_o they_o be_v not_o bishop_n shall_v have_v the_o like_a authority_n and_o to_o the_o like_a purpose_n be_v that_o allege_v out_o of_o pag._n 74._o and_o that_o we_o shall_v not_o think_v as_o some_o do_v that_o these_o thing_n be_v speak_v to_o they_o as_o to_o extraordinary_a person_n who_o authority_n shall_v die_v with_o they_o but_o to_o they_o and_o their_o successor_n to_o the_o end_n of_o the_o world_n he_o strait_o charge_v timothy_n that_o the_o commandment_n and_o direction_n which_o he_o give_v he_o shall_v be_v keep_v inviolable_a unto_o the_o appear_a of_o our_o lord_n jesus_n christ_n and_o therefore_o by_o such_o as_o shall_v have_v the_o like_a authority_n unto_o the_o end_n and_o present_o after_o for_o the_o authority_n which_o 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