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A58130 A dialogue betwixt two Protestants in answer to a popish catechism called A short catechism against all sectaries : plainly shewing that the members of the Church of England are no sectaries but true Catholicks and that our Church is a found part of Christ's holy Catholick Church in whose communion therefore the people of this nation are most strictly bound in conscience to remain : in two parts. Rawlet, John, 1642-1686. 1685 (1685) Wing R352; ESTC R11422 171,932 286

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purgatory_n and_o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a and_o indulgence_n p._n 65_o chap._n vii_o of_o transubstantiation_n p._n 75_o chap._n viii_o concern_v the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o mass._n p._n 102_o chap._n ix_o of_o have_v prayer_n in_o a_o unknown_a tongue_n p._n 105_o chap._n x._o concern_v confession_n of_o sin_n to_o the_o priest_n in_o order_n to_o his_o forgiveness_n of_o they_o p._n 109_o chap._n xi_o of_o invocation_n of_o saint_n p._n 119_o chap._n xii_o of_o the_o worship_n of_o image_n p._n 129_o chap._n xiii_o of_o pray_v by_o bead_n p._n 142_o chap._n fourteen_o of_o distinction_n of_o meat_n p._n 148_o chap._n xv._n of_o withhold_v the_o scripture_n from_o the_o common-people_n p._n 152_o part_n ii_o chap._n i._o contain_v a_o answer_n to_o some_o argument_n against_o protestant_n p._n 167_o chap._n ii_o a_o resolution_n of_o some_o doubt_n and_o question_n propose_v to_o protestant_n 190_o chap._n iii_o a_o answer_n to_o some_o proposition_n say_v to_o be_v 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