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A44799 The mouth of the pit stopped and the smoke that hath arisen out of it scattered by the breath of truth in answer to a lying story called Hell broken loose, or, The history of the Quakers, published by Thomas Underhill, a seller of the whores merchandize otherwise called a book-seller : his lyes returned upon him, his accusations answered and his envie decleared and truth cleared from all his reproaches / by one that waits to see death and hell cast into the lake of fire, with the beast and false-prophet, Francis Howgil. Howgill, Francis, 1618-1669. 1659 (1659) Wing H3172; ESTC R6601 19,385 26

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reason to curse the Magistrates from morning to night because that allowance was granted unto any to worship God in spirit and Truth who could not be subject to their traditional uniformity and thou tells the Army in thy Epistle that ruine is like to come upon all Religion and Piety if God prevent it not by you or some other way they may see what Religion thou art of and what God thou trusts in and what piety thou art for which may be rather called irreligious and impious the Government of Religion and piety lies upon the shoulders of him who is a wonderful Councellor and mighty to save and able to defend them that are subject unto him would thou have the Souldiers or any others intrude themselves into Christs Throne unto whom all power is committed both to make Religious and preserve pious them that do believe in him this were to derogate from the honour and power which belongs to Christ who is head of the Church who will not give his glory to another and let all take notice of this that whosoever hath sought to take the honour from him and glory from him he hath laid their honour is the dust and their glory is become as the moth-eaten garment as hitherto it hath been evident and thou tells them they know the Scripture is Gods written Word and a holy perfect rule of faith and practice and that it holds out that Christ is now in his humane glorified body in Heaven If thou hadst said the Scripture is the Words of God written thou hadst said something for the Word of God is one thing and the words is another though the words are a Testimony of the Word and the Word and the Spirit which is one which gave forth the words are the perfect rule and foundation of faith which was before the words and is greater then the words as we have often declared to thy dearest generation though they would not hear and where doth the Scripture hold forth a humane glorified body in Heaven thy deceit and ignorant mind holds out a humane glorified body we say according to the Scriptures that Christs body is spiritual and he is raised a spiritual body and is glorified in a spiritual body and in a Heavenly body which thou never knew neither art like while the nature lives in thee in which thou now stands And thou saith in thy Epistle that one day in seventh should be set apart for rational souls to mind the things of Eternity And which is that day that thou wilt set apart some of Babylons Merchants have cryed up one day and some have cryed up another day and some have called the seventh day the Sabbath and some have called the first day the Sabbath and whether was Sabbaths made for man or man for Sabbaths and whether was dayes made for man or man made for dayes all time is in the hand of the Lord and they that have Communion with him do mind the things of Eternity every day and so they come to know the day of the Lord in which rest is given to the soul and the creature hath rest though he labour in the Creation when that is done away in himself which hath opprest thou may go learn what this means In thy post-script as thou calls it thou saith if any shall take offence for thy seeking to civil or Military Power to support Religion thy defence is and thy belief is that thou ought to seek to the higher powers to support Religion and this is the Liberty of thy conscience and that this thou may do more acceptably then they who cross their own profest opinion as they have done of late years by motions Councels books and Papers which they have delivered for these many years for the pulling down the Ministry and steeple-houses and that their importuning the Magistrate to pull down Ministry and worship is a yielding of the cause I say thy belief is without the true foundation and so many properly be called unbelief and thou errs in thy judgement who seekes to civil or Military power to uphold Religion which as I said before belongs to him who is the higher and highest power Civil and Military Officers are not for making Religion or setting up Religion but are to keep the Peace and to stop the violent doer and to be a terror to evil works and workers and a praise to them that do well and that is their place to govern in righteousness but not to exercise Lordship over the conscience which power belongs onely to Christ and as for them who have delivered Books and Papers and words and writings to them who were in Authority to pull down the Ministry and Steeple-houses or publike Ministry and worship if thou intend the Quakers as I believe thou dost thy arrowes being shot onely at them we have delivered or caused to be delivered divers Books and Papers wherein we have shewed them the grievous suffering of the People of God by the heavy oppressions which they did suffer under because of the hirelings wages and upholding of Mass-houses things which hath been introduced since the Primitive times in the Apostacy which aforesaid things hath been guarded and upheld by Lawes made in the Beasts power now to make null those Lawes which were the ground of many oppressions and an offence to many tender Consciences this is not to pull down Religion and that Ministry which can be pul'd down by taking away of Tythes and forced maintenance is no Ministry of Christ but Ministers of Antichrist and to deny paying to Steeple-houses Clark wages burying for the dead and such other like invented things which many hath groaned under is not to pull down Religion for this I say to thee and that which I can say to all which no reasonable or equitable man will deny to be equitable or just take the hireling Ministry to thee and give him the fifth part of thy estate if thou wilt and erect thy Steeple-house like Babels Tower but trouble not us with none of these things and for declaring to the Magistrates that these things ought to be done away and the Law by which they stood which was made in transgression ought to be taken away this is not to pull down the Ministry nor true Religion but to overturn deceit and Innovation which hath obstructed and hindered pure Reformation which hath been talkt on for these are but the rotten raggs of the Whores Menstruous garment so thy defence is made void and ours standeth true that the Magistrate or Military power hath nothing to do to prescribe any form of Religion to bind all unto for this is an intruding into those things that belongs not to them Thou saith that thou dost freely and sincerely affirm that thou hast not knowingly wronged the Quakers in the least but doth engage thy self to mak● good every thing thou charges against them that shall require it of thee That we shall see afterwards how thou wilt
make good that which thou hast charged some with Hast thou not knowingly wronged us when thou hast brought all those which thou counts Hereticks all Europe over and some parts else and whatsoever they did or said must be imputed unto us I know thy envy in times past with the rest of the Priests was as much against them who were separate from your Assemblies as now against us and all these things that thou hast racked up in this book out of Histories of Germany of new England which I am not credulous to receive from thy mouth no more then I shall thy History as thou calls it of the Quakers for thou which wilt lye of them which are so near thee may report many untruths at a distance and these things the hireling Priests were wont to charge upon the Baptists and Independants but now we are become the object of all your reproach and your butt to shoot at but we are in that which the Devil cannot prevail against neither the gates of Hell In thy third Chap. thou saith Thou wilt Treat of the Predecessors of the Quakers and thou reckons up Simon Magus Menander Saturnus how he taught that Marriage and Generation was of Sathan and Arians who denied the Divinity of Christ and Pelagius a Monk who held that a man without the Grace of God was able to fulfil all the Commandements of God and of Balsidies that he taught that it was not Jesus but Simon of Cyrene that was crucified in his shape These are none of our Predecessours take them to thy self and whether hast thou not knowingly wronged us in these things and how wilt thou make every thing good which thou hast charged us withal These things forementioned and many more which I shall pass over as not to trouble the Reader with in which thou hast charged us falsly wherein thou art required to make good the charge or else cease thy clamerous tongue these that thou hast reckoned up you use to call them Arians Saturnians and Palagians but now thou hast made them all Quakers In thy 13th page thou manifests what spirit thou art of thou tells of the old Church-Government being taken away to wit the Common-prayer Book taken out of the Mass-book then began Sects to arise So that it seems thy chief Reformation and Religion is but the old Lithurgy which is little better then the Mass and the Ministers the old corrupt Bishops that the earth groaned with the burthen thereof whose Ordination Call is from the Pope their Original and from the Church of Rome your Mother from whence these State-hirelings which burthens the whole Creation sprang forth thou would have all confined unto this dark mist and compelled to worship according unto those popish Traditions held forth for publick worship in that time Further thou brings a heap of lyes out of Baxter a man at enmity against all goodness who hath written many lying Books against the living Truth for which the Lord God will call him and thee to account Thou sets down some of that which thou calls our Principles in the 16th page How that we deny all Officers in a Common-wealth and how we deny all Relation as Brother and Sister Magistrate Master Father Mother Son and Daughter Husband and Wife and that Husband and Wife should part asunder and that all things should be common All these things shall turn upon thy own head and now to the light in thy Conscience I speak which thou despisest whether thou hast not wilfully wronged us and I require of thee according to thy promise to make these things good but I believe thy proof is out of our Adversaries Books Baxters and the Priests of New-Castle which things have been answered and their lyes turned upon their own heads In the 17th page thou hast gathered some words and Sentences out of our Books many of them are so evident and manifest truth to all that are come to a good understanding that they need no vindication for they will vindicate themselves and have an evident witness in every ones Conscience that believes so far as thou hast truely transcribed them and many of those doctrines and practices which thou hast set down as errours the Scripture will bear witness too and the example of the Saints Evidence and the judicious will receive with gladness of heart and by it thy envious Spirit will be made manifest to all where thy lying story shall come In thy 30th page thy lips being accustomed to utter forth lyes and deceit thou proceeds and sayes That the Quakers say that a man is Justified by the merit of good works and inherent Righteousness and how that we hold the real Corporal presence of Christ in many places at once and overthrows the Articles of Christs humanity and further thou saist That Christ is Corporally in Heaven But for proof I expect none from thee for thou speaks as though thy tongue were thy own and I charge thee to instance where in all our writings we have said that a man is Justified by inherent Righteousness or where thou finds real Corporal presence or where it is written in the Scripture that Christ is Corporally in Heaven Yet the man Christ is at the right hand of God from whence he shall appear to thy Judgement and Condemnation except thou repent and Christ Gods Righteousness must be revealed within by which the Saints are Justified In the 31 page thou tells of the Actions and Manners of the Quakers and thou sayes They will not put off their hats before the highest Authority and how they stood covered and thoued and theed the Chair-man and Members of Parliament to the great dishonour of the Authority of England as ever was admitted This showes that the Authority of England hath in times past been out of the Authority of God and in the same Authority which we find mentioned in the Scripture before whom the Prophets Christ and the Apostles were brought before though many of the Magistrates then were out of the power of God yet they did not reprehend them for want of hats or caps or bowings or saying thee or thou and it seems the Committee and Members of Parliament did 〈◊〉 it no dishonour though thou doth who art a busie body but fools loves to be medling Then thou proceeds on and sayes They will not Petition men 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 the greatest Power witness all their Addresses to the Protectors and also tells How a Quaker in Hartfordshire swore against them that pulled down the house where the Quakers met It is not consistent with them that are in the truth and in the power of God to come with fained Petitions full of flattery and deceit which answereth not Gods witness but rather the wrong part which would be courted flattered which holds under the Just neither can they who are in the truth make such fained complemental Addresses as the hireling Teachers from all quarters of the Nation did to the late Protectors who