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A19033 The plea for infants and elder people, concerning their baptisme, or, A processe of the passages between M. Iohn Smyth and Richard Clyfton wherein, first is proved, that the baptising of infants of beleevers, is an ordinance of God, secondly, that the rebaptising of such, as have been formerly baptised in the apostate churches of Christians, is utterly unlawful, also, the reasons and objects to the contrarie, answered : divided into two principal heads, I. Of the first position, concerning the baptising of infants, II. Of the second position, concerning the rebaptising of elder people. Clyfton, Richard, d. 1616. 1610 (1610) STC 5450; ESTC S1572 214,939 244

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that_o abraham_n do_v to_o he_o and_o he_o because_o the_o seed_n be_v but_o one_o to_o who_o the_o promise_n be_v make_v viz._n christ_n or_o the_o 〈…〉_o all_o believer_n the_o word_n of_o the_o apostle_n be_v these_o 1●_n these_o gal._n 3._o 1●_n but_o to_o thy_o seed_n as_o of_o one_o which_o be_v christ_n some_o understand_v by_o seed_n the_o church_n christ_n mystical_o as_o 1_o cor._n 12._o 12._o gather_v of_o jew_n and_o gentile_n which_o grow_v together_o in_o one_o body_n in_o christ_n of_o the_o seed_n of_o abraham_n as_o ver_fw-la 18._o according_a to_o which_o exposition_n both_o ●ong_a and_o old_a member_n of_o the_o church_n be_v understand_v to_o have_v the_o promise_v ●ade_v unto_o they_o that_o be_v partaker_n of_o salvation_n yea_o infant_n else_o be_v 26._o be_v eph._n 5._o 2d_o 26._o they_o ●ot_n sanctify_v by_o christ_n death_n but_o if_o by_o seed_n be_v understand_v the_o redeem_n ●eed_o which_o be_v c._n it_o be_v he_o in_o who_o both_o the_o elder_a people_n 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which_o be_v command_v under_o the_o old_a testament_n again_o that_o christ_n have_v leave_v undeniable_a ground_n in_o the_o scripture_n for_o the_o baptise_v of_o infant_n before_o be_v show_v moreover_o see_v that_o the_o new_a testament_n be_v wrap_v up_o and_o preach_v obscure_o in_o the_o old_a testament_n and_o type_n thereof_o it_o be_v necessary_a that_o christ_n shall_v out_o of_o the_o old_a testament_n prove_v the_o resurrection_n etc._n etc._n but_o now_o that_o the_o new_a testament_n be_v write_v etc._n etc._n why_o shall_v we_o be_v send_v to_o obscurity_n and_o coniectural_a cons●quentes_n etc._n etc._n because_o the_o book_n of_o the_o new_a testament_n be_v not_o write_v christ_n and_o the_o apostle_n may_v reason_v from_o obscurity_n &_o conjectural_a consequent_n out_o of_o the_o old_a testament_n do_v you_o thus_o argue_v indeed_o be_v christ_n reason_a obscure_a for_o the_o resurrection_n do_v you_o think_v the_o saducee_n will_v have_v be_v soon_o persuade_v 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in_o force_n to_o the_o faithful_a and_o their_o seed_n rom._n 9_o 6._o 8._o 15._o &_o 11_o 1._o 2-5_a 2._o christ_n speak_v to_o such_o of_o the_o jew_n as_o by_o their_o work_n do_v show_v themselves_o to_o be_v of_o the_o devil_n he_o intend_v not_o to_o teach_v that_o this_o be_v the_o constitution_n &_o state_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n under_o the_o old_a testament_n as_o much_o as_o christ_n say_v to_o these_o jew_n may_v be_v say_v to_o we_o under_o the_o gospel_n as_o of_o those_o antichristian_o whereof_o john_n speak_v 1._o john_n 2._o 19_o and_o therefore_o all_o that_o you_o have_v say_v prove_v nothing_o for_o the_o question_n in_o hand_n again_o to_o prove_v the_o disciple_n to_o be_v baptize_v you_o cite_v joh._n 4._o 1._o &_o 1._o 35._o 40._o i_o answer_v in_o the_o latter_a place_n be_v no_o mention_n of_o baptism_n and_o in_o the_o former_a it_o be_v say_v that_o jesus_n baptize_v more_o disciple_n than_o john_n which_o in_o verse_n 2._o be_v explain_v that_o he_o do_v not_o baptise_v but_o his_o disciple_n show_v that_o christ_n baptise_a disciple_n by_o the_o hand_n of_o his_o disciple_n so_o i_o think_v they_o be_v baptize_v of_o john_n as_o christ_n be_v but_o i_o will_v not_o contend_v there_o about_o and_o for_o that_o you_o answer_v concern_v the_o eunuch_n that_o some_o mention_n shall_v have_v be_v make_v either_o of_o philip_n or_o of_o the_o eunuch_n towch_v his_o child_n it_o be_v nothing_o that_o you_o say_v for_o what_o occasion_n be_v there_o to_o speak_v of_o his_o child_n and_o it_o be_v for_o you_o to_o prove_v that_o the_o eunuch_n have_v child_n see_v he_o be_v one_o as_o it_o be_v like_o that_o be_v make_v chaste_a by_o man_n mat._n 19_o 12._o &_o the_o rather_o because_o in_o regard_n of_o his_o honour_n and_o authority_n he_o be_v call_v cheiffe_n governor_n as_o also_o in_o respect_n of_o his_o country_n a_o ethiopian_a act._n 8._o 27._o see_v esa_n 56._o 3._o 4._o 5._o now_o to_o your_o second_o reason_n the_o 2._o 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