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A84760 A sober answer to an angry epistle, directed to all the publick teachers in this nation, and prefixed to a book, called (by an antiphrasis) Christs innocency pleaded against the cry of the chief priests. Written in hast by Thomas Speed, once a publick teacher himself, and since revolted from that calling to merchandize, and of late grown a merchant of soules, trading subtilly for the Quakers in Bristoll. Wherein the jesuiticall equivocations and subtle insinuations, whereby he endeavours secretly to infuse the whole venome of Quaking doctrines, into undiscerning readers, are discovered; a catlogue of the true and genuine doctrines of the Quakers is presented, and certaine questions depending between us and them, candidly disputed, / by [brace] Christopher Fowler & Simon Ford, [brace] ministers of the Gospel in Reding, Fowler, Christopher, 1610?-1678.; Ford, Simon, 1619?-1699. 1656 (1656) Wing F1694; Thomason E883_1; ESTC R207293 63,879 81

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encounter_v they_o withal_o sure_o our_o saviour_n christ_n better_a know_v the_o way_n of_o prove_v sect._n 65_o conclusion_n from_o scripture_n than_o you_o or_o we_o and_o yet_o he_o never_o think_v it_o necessary_a to_o tie_v himself_o up_o to_o express_v text_n but_o allow_v himself_o the_o liberty_n of_o the_o interpretation_n and_o deduction_n when_o satan_n tempt_v he_o to_o turn_v stone_n into_o bread_n he_o think_v it_o sufficient_a to_o repel_v the_o tentation_n by_o that_o text_n of_o moses_n man_n live_v not_o by_o bread_n alone_o but_o by_o every_o word_n that_o 3._o mat._n 4._o 4._o deut._n 8._o 3._o proceed_v out_o of_o the_o mouth_n of_o god_n the_o force_n of_o which_o answer_n lie_v in_o this_o syllogism_n if_o god_n be_v able_a to_o supply_v the_o want_n of_o ordinary_a food_n that_o a_o man_n life_n shall_v be_v sustain_v without_o it_o while_o god_n have_v work_v for_o he_o to_o do_v then_o shall_v i_o do_v ill_a if_o in_o distrust_n of_o he_o i_o shall_v 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he_o shall_v give_v his_o angel_n charge_v concern_v thou_o etc._n etc._n we_o do_v not_o find_v our_o saviour_n so_o well_o verse_v in_o your_o way_n of_o dispute_v as_o to_o deny_v his_o proof_n because_o it_o be_v not_o express_o god_n shall_v give_v his_o angel_n charge_v over_o jesus_n the_o son_n of_o mary_n and_o in_o their_o hand_n shall_v they_o bear_v he_o up_o etc._n etc._n but_o answer_n by_o another_o scripture_n to_o show_v that_o that_o text_n be_v not_o to_o be_v understand_v of_o protection_n in_o way_n of_o tempt_a god_n by_o run_v ourselves_o upon_o unnecessary_a danger_n nay_o when_o our_o saviour_n have_v answer_v he_o with_o that_o place_n deut._n 6._o 16._o thou_o shall_v not_o tempt_v the_o lord_n thy_o god_n satan_n also_o be_v to_o seek_v of_o that_o plea_n which_o you_o can_v
have_v suggest_v to_o he_o viz._n that_o that_o scripture_n do_v not_o express_o forbid_v jesus_n of_o nazareth_n to_o throw_v himself_o down_o from_o the_o pinnacle_n and_o in_o the_o three_o tentation_n according_a to_o your_o tenet_n our_o sect._n 67_o saviour_n have_v be_v hard_o put_v to_o it_o to_o prove_v that_o it_o be_v unlawful_a to_o worship_v the_o devil_n himself_o have_v satan_n be_v discipline_v by_o your_o principle_n and_o require_v of_o he_o a_o express_a text_n that_o it_o be_v not_o lawful_a to_o worship_v the_o devil_n whereas_o it_o seem_v for_o want_v of_o your_o artifice_n the_o silly_a tempter_n be_v put_v off_o with_o a_o scripture_n that_o require_v we_o to_o worship_n and_o serve_v god_n only_o and_o conclude_v the_o unlawfulnesse_n of_o devill-worship_n by_o this_o argument_n if_o we_o must_v worship_v and_o serve_v god_n only_o ergo_fw-la not_o the_o devil_n but_o we_o must_v worship_v and_o serve_v god_n only_o therefore_o not_o the_o devil_n and_o the_o sadducee_n afterward_o be_v very_o silly_a animal_n that_o sect._n 68_o they_o will_v let_v our_o saviour_n go_v away_o in_o triumph_n for_o put_v 6._o mat._n 22._o 32._o exod._n 3._o 6._o they_o to_o silence_n by_o so_o weak_a a_o proof_n of_o the_o resurrection_n as_o the_o word_n of_o god_n to_o moses_n in_o the_o bush_n i_o be_o the_o god_n of_o abraham_n the_o god_n of_o isaac_n and_o the_o god_n of_o jacob._n why_o have_v they_o not_o require_v in_o so_o fundamental_a a_o article_n of_o faith_n especial_o a_o positive_a and_o express_a scripture_n affirm_v in_o so_o many_o word_n that_o the_o dead_a shall_v rise_v again_o but_o you_o think_v our_o saviour_n example_n will_v not_o bear_v we_o out_o in_o sect._n 69_o our_o interpretation_n and_o deduction_n because_o he_o be_v infallible_a in_o 6._o p._n 6._o what_o he_o speak_v and_o neither_o do_v nor_o can_v err_v in_o what_o he_o say_v which_o you_o suppose_v can_v be_v say_v of_o we_o or_o our_o meaning_n and_o argument_n to_o 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but_o whether_o such_o interpretation_n and_o deduction_n be_v true_o and_o bona_fw-la fide_fw-la according_a to_o the_o mind_n of_o the_o h._n chost_n in_o scripture_n whether_o they_o be_v draw_v by_o a_o person_n that_o be_v fallible_a or_o infallible_a for_o be_v the_o person_n never_o so_o fallible_a that_o give_v the_o interpretation_n or_o draw_v the_o argument_n yet_o if_o the_o interpretation_n be_v sound_a and_o the_o argument_n right_o conclude_v he_o be_v therein_o infallible_a for_o you_o can_v be_v altogether_o ignorant_a of_o that_o common_a maxim_n that_o nothing_o sequi_fw-la exit_fw-la veris_fw-la possunt_fw-la non_fw-la nisi_fw-la vera_fw-la sequi_fw-la but_o truth_n can_v right_o follow_v from_o truth_n and_o a_o false_a conclusion_n can_v never_o be_v regular_o draw_v from_o true_a premise_n so_o that_o all_o that_o flourish_n which_o you_o afterward_o make_v be_v but_o a_o mere_a rhetorical_a vapour_n and_o signify_v just_a nothing_o to_o a_o understanding_n sect._n 70_o reader_n for_o whereas_o you_o bid_v we_o either_o tell_v the_o people_n 6._o p._n 6._o plain_o that_o we_o be_v infallible_a that_o they_o may_v receive_v our_o deduction_n from_o scripture_n for_o true_a doctrine_n nay_o scripture_n itself_o or_o else_o say_v that_o we_o be_v fallible_a that_o so_o they_o may_v take_v liberty_n of_o prove_v our_o action_n and_o doctrine_n we_o answer_v we_o need_v not_o tell_v the_o people_n we_o be_v infallible_a and_o yet_o they_o be_v no_o less_o bind_v to_o receive_v our_o deduction_n if_o right_o draw_v from_o scripture_n then_o if_o we_o be_v indeed_o so_o because_o although_o we_o be_v not_o infallible_a yet_o so_o far_o as_o we_o regular_o argue_v from_o scripture_n we_o be_v not_o deceive_v nor_o can_v deceive_v they_o the_o authority_n of_o our_o deduction_n from_o scripture_n depend_v not_o on_o our_o fallibility_n or_o infallibility_n but_o upon_o the_o evidence_n they_o carry_v in_o they_o of_o their_o necessary_a 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matter_n of_o say_v and_o practice_n we_o can_v suppose_v most_o of_o we_o we_o conceive_v in_o such_o be_v at_o least_o till_o the_o new-fangled_a conceit_n of_o these_o time_n infect_v some_o of_o the_o ministry_n as_o well_o as_o other_o be_v of_o the_o same_o mind_n in_o most_o of_o they_o yet_o herein_o we_o be_v no_o more_o to_o be_v blame_v then_o the_o apostle_n and_o other_o primitive_a teacher_n themselves_o who_o differ_v as_o much_o in_o those_o time_n of_o clear_a light_n about_o the_o scripture_n that_o enjoin_v the_o observation_n of_o jewish_a ceremony_n while_o some_o of_o they_o earnest_o contend_v that_o they_o extend_v to_o convert_v gentile_n and_o other_o affirm_v the_o quite_o contrary_a and_o will_v you_o thence_o conclude_v that_o there_o be_v little_a credit_n to_o be_v give_v to_o any_o of_o their_o deduction_n because_o they_o disagree_v among_o themselves_o all_o that_o can_v be_v hence_o solid_o infer_v be_v no_o more_o but_o this_o that_o therefore_o it_o 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