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A05217 A reflection of certaine authors that are pretended to disauow the churches infallibilitie in her generall decrees of faith. By F.E. Lechmere, Edmund, d. 1640? 1635 (1635) STC 15351; ESTC S106826 115,644 246

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rationes_fw-la pro_fw-la assertione_fw-la contraria_fw-la libenti_fw-la animo_fw-la auscultabo_fw-la mag._n quod_fw-la concilium_fw-la generale_fw-mi possit_fw-la errare_fw-la contra_fw-la fidem_fw-la rationibus_fw-la &_o exemplis_fw-la videtur_fw-la posse_fw-la probari_fw-la prima_fw-la autem_fw-la ratio_fw-la talis_fw-la est_fw-la una_fw-la est_fw-la sola_fw-la universalis_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la etc._n etc._n ut_fw-la pag._n 5._o ockam_n li._n 5._o c._n 25._o argumenti_fw-la verò_fw-la solutionem_fw-la apud_fw-la ipsum_fw-la innenies_fw-la cap_n 9_o &_o habetur_fw-la inferius_fw-la ad_fw-la lit_fw-fr h._n §._o ad_fw-la undecimam_fw-la mind_n that_o a_o general_a council_n can_v ●rre_v in_o faith_n the_o like_a proceed_n you_o may_v observe_v in_o he_o elsewhere_a as_o in_o the_o last_o chapter_n of_o this_o book_n where_o he_o bring_v reason_n and_o leave_v they_o without_o answer_n too_o to_o prove_v that_o the_o whole_a multitude_n of_o christian_n have_v use_n of_o reason_n pastor_n 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quod_fw-la tota_fw-la multitudo_fw-la christianorum_fw-la usum_fw-la rationis_fw-la habentium_fw-la possit_fw-la contra_fw-la fidem_fw-la errare_fw-la tali_fw-la ratione_fw-la probatur_fw-la etc._n etc._n ockam_n li._n 5._o c_o 35._o ergo_fw-la temerarium_fw-la est_fw-la asserere_fw-la quod_fw-la nunquam_fw-la tota_fw-la multitudo_fw-la christianorum_fw-la usum_fw-la rationis_fw-la habentium_fw-la contra_fw-la fidem_fw-la errabit_fw-la ibidem_fw-la in_o fine_a be_v ●●lse_o as_o it_o be_v indeed_o and_o manifest_o against_o the_o scripture_n daniel_n 7._o i_o say_v 49._o mat._n 18._o io._n 14._o ephes_n 4._o apoc._n 20._o and_o that_o he_o know_v no_o christian_n at_o all_o he_o live_v before_o the_o protestant_a religion_n that_o hold_v it_o est_fw-la quaedam_fw-la opinio_fw-la quae_fw-la viam_fw-la eligens_fw-la mediam_fw-la praedictis_fw-la omnibus_fw-la in_o aliquo_fw-la adversatur_fw-la tenens_fw-la quod_fw-la scripturae_fw-la divin●_n contentae_fw-la in_o biblia_fw-la &_o 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