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A78447 The censures of the church revived. In the defence of a short paper published by the first classis within the province of Lancaster ... but since printed without their privity or consent, after it had been assaulted by some gentlemen and others within their bounds ... under the title of Ex-communicatio excommunicata, or a Censure of the presbyterian censures and proceedings, in the classis at Manchester. Wherein 1. The dangerousness of admitting moderate episcopacy is shewed. ... 6. The presbyterian government vindicated from severall aspersions cast upon it, ... In three full answers ... Together with a full narrative, of the occasion and grounds, of publishing in the congregations, the above mentioned short paper, and of the whole proceedings since, from first to last. Harrison, John, 1613?-1670.; Allen, Isaac, 17th cent. 1659 (1659) Wing C1669; Thomason E980_22; ESTC R207784 289,546 380

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touch_v church-government_n bind_v up_o with_o the_o confession_n of_o faith_n &_o catechism_n pag._n 9_o 10._o the_o imputtion_n of_o schtaken_v off_o off_o see_v sect._n 9_o of_o their_o three_o paper_n paper_n vide_fw-la loc_n theol_fw-it tom_fw-mi 5._o cap._n 11._o sect._n 156._o page_n 1._o 1._o ibid._n ex_fw-la act_n 20._o 27_o 28._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d so_o take_v mat._n 2._o 6._o rev._n 12._o 5._o and_o 19_o 15._o the_o be_v of_o the_o church_n &_o a_o lawful_o ordain_v ministry_n secure_v in_o the_o want_n of_o episcopacy_n episcopacy_n vide_fw-la pa._n 128._o of_o dr._n bernard_n late_a book_n *_o vide_fw-la pa._n 126._o lib._n de_fw-fr ecclesia_fw-la cap._n 18._o foe_n 123._o cl._n cop_z we_o have_v already_o return_v our_o thanks_o for_o your_o answer_n full_a of_o civility_n as_o to_o we_o though_o not_o of_o brevity_n brevity_n see_v the_o first_o section_n of_o it_o towards_o the_o close_a cl._n cop_z the_o scribe_n scribe_n this_o be_v manifest_a from_o the_o advice_n of_o the_o assembly_n to_o the_o parliament_n touch_v church_n government_n cl._n cop_z say_v now_o cl._n cop_z several_a association_n association_n see_v form_n of_o church-government_n pag._n 30._o 30._o see_v sr_n francis_n bacon_n matth._n 28._o ver_fw-la 18._o col._n 4._o 17._o 2_o chr._n 26._o 18._o vide_fw-la pag._n 130._o of_o their_o last_o book_n publish_v by_o dr_n bernard_n the_o imputation_n of_o perjury_n take_v off_o off_o see_v their_o jus_o divinum_fw-la ministerij_fw-la evangelici_fw-la part_n 2._o pag._n 143_o 144._o 2_o part_z institut_n fol._n 157_o 158._o 158._o see_v sect._n 9_o towards_o the_o end_n the_o claim_n for_o the_o presbyterian_a government_n to_o the_o civil_a sanction_n make_v good_a cl._n cop_z censurable_a cl._n cop_z for_o this_o all_o party_n hiss_v you_o and_o laugh_v you_o to_o scorn_v have_v as_o full_a etc._n etc._n object_n answ_n lib._n 4._o cap._n 3._o sect._n 16._o in_o fine_a cl._n cop_z wander_v cl._n cop_z he_o be_v a_o person_n of_o know_a eminency_n in_o his_o day_n cl._n cop_z the_o church_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 1_o tim._n 3._o 15._o cant._n 1._o 8._o bishop_n laud_n preface_n against_o usher_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d chap._n 20._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d chap._n 17._o ●_o cl._n cop_z cap._n 9_o 20._o cap._n 19_o sect._n 5._o cl._n cop_z this_o mann●_n wrest_v the_o jesuit_n the_o scripture_n the_o sole_a supreme_a judge_n of_o all_o matter_n in_o religion_n council_n and_o father_n not_o the_o rule_n of_o the_o scripture_n interpretation_n interpretation_n see_v the_o provincial_a assembly_n of_o london_n in_o their_o jus_fw-la divinum_fw-la ministerij_fw-la evangelici_fw-la part_n 2._o pag._n 107._o see_v also_o mr._n baxter_n in_o his_o desence_n of_o the_o worcesteshire_n agreement_n pag._n 61_o 62._o 62._o see_v his_o commentary_n upon_o the_o epistle_n to_o titus_n titus_n part_n 2._o cap_n 4._o 4._o see_v quest_n 2._o p._n 29._o cl._n cop_z cap_n 2._o civil_a penalty_n 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