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be_v uncertain_a whether_o plurality_n of_o suffrage_n ought_v to_o overcome_v or_o whether_o perfect_a unanimity_n be_v require_v that_o in_o both_o case_n no_o small_a difficulty_n occur_v there_o remain_v the_o last_o part_n of_o a_o lawful_a proceed_v the_o conclusion_n whereby_o the_o precedent_n of_o the_o council_n when_o he_o have_v hear_v the_o suffrage_n of_o the_o father_n solemn_o pronounce_v sentence_n concern_v this_o be_v no_o small_a controversy_n viz._n whether_o the_o precedent_n of_o the_o council_n whosoever_o he_o be_v aught_o to_o give_v sentence_n according_a to_o the_o major_a part_n of_o the_o suffrage_n or_o whether_o a_o full_a or_o absolute_a unanimity_n be_v necessary_a and_o whether_o the_o same_o account_n be_v to_o be_v make_v of_o a_o decree_n make_v by_o the_o vote_n of_o all_o and_o by_o the_o vote_n of_o the_o major_a part_n the_o monarchist_n distinguish_v here_o and_o say_v that_o if_o the_o pope_n himself_o preside_v and_o perceive_v either_o 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