Selected quad for the lemma: scripture_n

Word A Word B Word C Word D Occurrence Frequency Band MI MI Band Prominent
scripture_n believe_v church_n infallible_a 12,577 5 10.4116 5 true
View all documents for the selected quad

Text snippets containing the quad

ID Title Author Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication) STC Words Pages
A26947 A key for Catholicks, to open the jugling of the Jesuits, and satisfie all that are but truly willing to understand, whether the cause of the Roman or reformed churches be of God ... containing some arguments by which the meanest may see the vanity of popery, and 40 detections of their fraud, with directions, and materials sufficient for the confutation of their voluminous deceits ... : the second part sheweth (especially against the French and Grotians) that the Catholick Church is not united in any meerly humane head, either Pope or council / by Richard Baxter, a Catholick Christian and Pastor of a church ... Baxter, Richard, 1615-1691. 1659 (1659) Wing B1295; ESTC R19360 404,289 516

There are 25 snippets containing the selected quad. | View original text

will_n and_o what_o be_v that_o to_o the_o question_n o_o sir_n be_v it_o not_o the_o holy_a truth_n of_o god_n that_o you_o be_v about_o and_o shall_v you_o thus_o abuse_v it_o and_o the_o soul_n of_o man_n you_o know_v the_o question_n be_v whether_o sense_n and_o the_o intellect_n thereby_o be_v infallible_a in_o judge_v bread_n to_o be_v bread_n when_o we_o see_v feel_v and_o eat_v it_o have_v you_o never_o a_o word_n to_o say_v to_o this_o to_o persuade_v man_n that_o they_o have_v eye_n and_o see_v not_o and_o hand_n and_o feel_v not_o or_o that_o the_o world_n know_v not_o certain_o what_o they_o seem_v to_o know_v by_o see_v and_o feel_n i_o pray_v you_o hereafter_o deal_v by_o we_o as_o fair_o as_o bellarmine_n do_v and_o yet_o we_o will_v thank_v you_o for_o nothing_o who_o quite_o give_v away_o the_o roman_a cause_n by_o grant_v and_o plead_v that_o sense_n be_v infallible_a in_o positives_n and_o therefore_o we_o may_v thence_o say_v this_o be_v a_o body_n because_o i_o see_v it_o and_o so_o this_o be_v bread_n or_o wine_n because_o i_o see_v feel_v and_o taste_v it_o but_o not_o in_o negative_n and_o therefore_o we_o can_v say_v this_o be_v not_o a_o body_n because_o i_o see_v it_o not_o i_o pray_v you_o give_v over_o talk_v of_o the_o pope_n or_o church_n or_o religion_n or_o man_n if_o you_o be_v uncertain_a of_o substance_n which_o be_v suppose_v but_o per_fw-la accidentia_fw-la the_o object_n of_o your_o sense_n and_o take_v nothing_o ill_a that_o i_o write_v of_o you_o till_o you_o be_v more_o certain_a that_o you_o see_v it_o and_o know_v what_o you_o see_v 3._o but_o you_o will_v say_v sense_n and_o reason_n must_v here_o vail_v bonnet_n to_o faith_n answ_n in_o the_o negative_a case_n let_v it_o be_v grant_v and_o any_o case_n where_o faith_n can_v be_v faith_n but_o if_o sense_n and_o the_o intellect_n therewith_o be_v fallible_a in_o positives_n so_o that_o we_o can_v know_v bread_n when_o we_o see_v and_o eat_v it_o faith_n can_v be_v faith_n then_o what_o talk_v you_o of_o faith_n if_o you_o credit_v not_o the_o sound_a sense_n of_o all_o the_o man_n in_o the_o world_n when_o sense_n and_o reason_n be_v presuppose_v to_o faith_n how_o know_v you_o that_o faith_n here_o contradict_v sense_n you_o will_v say_v because_o the_o church_n or_o scripture_n say_v this_o be_v my_o body_n and_o that_o there_o be_v no_o bread_n but_o how_o know_v you_o that_o there_o be_v any_o such_o thing_n in_o scripture_n or_o that_o the_o church_n so_o hold_v you_o think_v you_o have_v read_v or_o hear_v it_o but_o how_o know_v you_o that_o your_o sense_n deceive_v you_o not_o he_o that_o can_v know_v bread_n when_o he_o see_v and_o eat_v it_o be_v unlikely_a to_o know_v letter_n and_o their_o meaning_n when_o he_o see_v they_o see_v more_o of_o my_o answer_n to_o such_o objection_n in_o a_o book_n entitle_v the_o safe_a religion_n p._n 241._o to_o 248._o the_o simple_a reader_n that_o have_v honesty_n and_o charity_n be_v secure_v against_o popery_n by_o the_o first_o argument_n which_o he_o may_v make_v good_a to_o his_o own_o soul_n against_o all_o the_o jesuit_n on_o earth_n and_o he_o that_o be_v unable_a to_o proceed_v on_o that_o account_n may_v by_o the_o evidence_n of_o this_o last_o argument_n confute_v any_o papist_n living_n if_o he_o be_v a_o man_n of_o sense_n and_o reason_n and_o have_v bring_v all_o our_o controversy_n so_o low_a that_o sense_n itself_o may_v be_v the_o judge_n i_o shall_v go_v no_o further_o in_o argument_n as_o think_v it_o vain_a to_o use_v any_o reason_n with_o that_o man_n that_o will_v not_o believe_v his_o own_o eyesight_n nor_o the_o sight_n and_o feeling_n and_o taste_v of_o all_o the_o world_n beside_o chap._n x._o i_o come_v now_o to_o the_o next_o and_o principal_a part_n of_o my_o task_n which_o be_v to_o open_a to_o you_o their_o deceit_n and_o give_v you_o direction_n for_o the_o discovery_n and_o confutation_n of_o they_o that_o by_o the_o help_n of_o these_o you_o may_v see_v the_o truth_n detect_v 1._o remember_v this_o ground_n which_o they_o have_v give_v you_o that_o if_o you_o prove_v they_o guilty_a but_o of_o any_o one_o error_n in_o point_n of_o belief_n determine_v by_o their_o church_n you_o thereby_o disprove_v the_o whole_a body_n of_o popery_n as_o such_o for_o you_o pull_v up_o the_o foundation_n which_o they_o build_v on_o and_o the_o authority_n into_o which_o they_o resolve_v their_o faith_n they_o will_v grant_v you_o that_o if_o they_o be_v deceive_v by_o the_o church_n in_o one_o thing_n they_o have_v no_o certainty_n of_o any_o thing_n upon_o the_o church_n credit_n so_o that_o if_o you_o read_v paul_n discourse_n against_o pray_v in_o a_o unknown_a tongue_n or_o the_o many_o precept_n for_o our_o read_n and_o meditate_v in_o the_o law_n of_o god_n or_o the_o like_a and_o can_v but_o perceive_v that_o the_o popish_a latin_a service_n or_o their_o forbid_a man_n to_o read_v the_o scripture_n etc._n etc._n be_v contrary_a hereto_o or_o if_o you_o find_v out_o but_o any_o one_o of_o their_o error_n you_o can_v be_v a_o papist_n if_o you_o understand_v their_o profession_n but_o it_o be_v not_o so_o with_o we_o for_o though_o we_o know_v that_o the_o scripture_n and_o all_o that_o be_v in_o it_o be_v of_o infallible_a truth_n and_o that_o every_o true_a christian_n while_o such_o be_v infallible_a in_o the_o essential_o of_o christianity_n for_o else_o he_o be_v no_o christian_n yet_o we_o profess_v that_o we_o know_v but_o in_o part_n and_o that_o our_o own_o write_n and_o confession_n may_v possible_o in_o some_o thing_n be_v beside_o the_o sense_n of_o scripture_n and_o there_o be_v much_o more_o propound_v in_o scripture_n to_o our_o faith_n than_o what_o be_v of_o absolute_a necessity_n to_o salvation_n we_o may_v possible_o after_o our_o study_v and_o pray_v mistake_n in_o some_o thing_n that_o be_v not_o of_o the_o essence_n but_o the_o integrity_n of_o christianity_n and_o be_v necessary_a to_o the_o melius_fw-la esse_fw-la the_o strength_n or_o comfort_n though_o not_o to_o the_o be_v of_o a_o christian_n so_o that_o every_o error_n in_o their_o faith_n destroy_v their_o ground_n and_o so_o their_o new_a religion_n but_o so_o do_v not_o every_o error_n of_o we_o or_o to_o speak_v more_o distinct_o let_v we_o distinguish_v between_o the_o fides_n quae_fw-la &_o qua_fw-la their_o objective_a faith_n and_o our_o subjective_a faith_n 1._o their_o objective_a faith_n have_v error_n in_o it_o but_o we_o have_v none_o by_o their_o own_o confession_n for_o they_o be_v all_o the_o decree_n of_o their_o pope_n and_o council_n and_o we_o be_v only_o the_o holy_a scripture_n which_o they_o confess_v to_o be_v infallible_a our_o own_o write_n do_v but_o show_v how_o we_o understand_v the_o scripture_n and_o so_o whether_o our_o subjective_a faith_n be_v right_a or_o not_o 2._o we_o confess_v that_o it_o be_v not_o only_o possible_a but_o probable_a that_o we_o be_v mistake_v in_o some_o low_a point_n about_o the_o meaning_n of_o the_o scripture_n and_o yet_o our_o foundation_n be_v still_o sure_a but_o they_o have_v in_o a_o sort_n confound_v their_o subiective_n and_o objective_a faith_n and_o one_o believe_v it_o on_o that_o account_n because_o other_o do_v believe_v it_o and_o so_o one_o age_n or_o part_n do_v but_o seek_v for_o the_o object_n of_o their_o faith_n in_o the_o actual_a faith_n of_o the_o other_o yea_o 3._o they_o conclude_v that_o every_o point_n which_o be_v of_o faith_n that_o be_v that_o be_v determine_v by_o the_o church_n to_o be_v so_o be_v of_o such_o necessity_n to_o salvation_n that_o no_o man_n can_v be_v save_v that_o deny_v it_o or_o that_o do_v not_o believe_v it_o if_o sufficient_o propose_v but_o we_o be_v assure_v that_o though_o all_o that_o be_v in_o scripture_n be_v most_o true_a yet_o through_o misunderstanding_n some_o point_n there_o propose_v to_o our_o faith_n may_v possible_o be_v deny_v and_o dispute_v against_o by_o a_o true_a believer_n and_o yet_o his_o salvation_n not_o be_v overthrow_v by_o it_o the_o papist_n cry_v out_o against_o we_o for_o distinguish_v between_o the_o fundamental_o or_o essential_n of_o religion_n and_o the_o integral_n but_o we_o know_v it_o to_o be_v necessary_a chap._n xi_o detect_v 2._o when_o you_o have_v bring_v the_o matter_n thus_o far_o and_o see_v that_o if_o they_o have_v one_o error_n in_o faith_n their_o whole_a cause_n be_v lose_v then_o consider_v whether_o it_o be_v possible_a for_o that_o doctrine_n which_o be_v so_o contrary_a to_o scripture_n and_o to_o itself_o to_o be_v free_a from_o all_o error_n 1._o how_o contrary_a it_o be_v to_o scripture_n 1._o to_o forbid_v the_o read_n of_o scripture_n in_o a_o know_a
not_o the_o subject_n of_o the_o pope_n as_o universal_a monarch_n nor_o can_v any_o other_o be_v save_v as_o be_v without_o the_o church_n 3._o and_o that_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v by_o god_n appointment_n the_o mistress_n of_o all_o other_o church_n 4._o and_o that_o the_o pope_n of_o rome_n be_v infallible_a 5._o that_o we_o can_v believe_v the_o scripture_n to_o be_v the_o word_n of_o god_n or_o the_o christian_a doctrine_n to_o be_v true_a but_o upon_o the_o authoritative_a tradition_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n and_o upon_o the_o knowledge_n or_o belief_n of_o their_o infallibility_n that_o be_v we_o must_v believe_v in_o the_o pope_n as_o infallible_a before_o we_o can_v believe_v in_o christ_n who_o be_v pretend_v to_o give_v he_o that_o infallibility_n 6._o that_o no_o scripture_n be_v by_o any_o man_n to_o be_v interpret_v but_o according_a to_o the_o sense_n of_o the_o pope_n or_o roman_a church_n and_o the_o unanimous_a consent_n of_o the_o father_n 7._o that_o a_o general_n council_n approve_v by_o the_o pope_n can_v err_v but_o a_o general_n council_n not_o approve_v by_o the_o pope_n may_v err_v 8._o that_o nothing_o be_v to_o we_o a_o article_n of_o faith_n till_o it_o be_v declare_v by_o the_o pope_n or_o a_o general_n council_n though_o it_o be_v long_o before_o declare_v by_o christ_n or_o his_o apostle_n as_o plain_a as_o they_o can_v speak_v 9_o that_o a_o general_n council_n have_v no_o more_o validity_n than_o the_o pope_n give_v it_o 10._o that_o no_o pastor_n have_v a_o valid_a ordination_n unless_o it_o be_v derive_v from_o the_o pope_n 11._o that_o there_o be_v article_n of_o faith_n of_o necessity_n to_o our_o salvation_n which_o be_v not_o contain_v in_o the_o holy_a scripture_n nor_o can_v be_v prove_v by_o they_o 12._o that_o such_o tradition_n be_v to_o be_v receive_v with_o equal_a pious_a affection_n and_o reverence_n as_o the_o holy_a scripture_n 13._o that_o image_n have_v equal_a honour_n with_o the_o holy_a gospel_n 14._o that_o the_o clergy_n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n ought_v to_o swear_v obedience_n to_o the_o pope_n as_o christ_n vicar_n 15._o that_o the_o pope_n shall_v be_v a_o temporal_a prince_n 16._o that_o the_o pope_n and_o his_o clergy_n ought_v to_o be_v exempt_v from_o the_o government_n of_o prince_n and_o prince_n ought_v not_o to_o judge_v and_o punish_v the_o clergy_n till_o the_o pope_n deliver_v they_o to_o their_o power_n have_v degrade_v they_o 17._o that_o the_o pope_n may_v dispossess_v prince_n of_o their_o dominion_n and_o give_v they_o to_o other_o if_o those_o prince_n be_v such_o as_o he_o judge_v heretic_n or_o will_v not_o exterminate_v heretic_n 18._o that_o in_o such_o case_n the_o pope_n may_v discharge_v all_o the_o subject_n from_o their_o allegiance_n and_o fidelity_n 19_o that_o the_o pope_n in_o his_o own_o territory_n and_o prince_n in_o they_o must_v burn_v or_o otherwise_o put_v to_o death_n all_o that_o deny_v transubstantiation_n the_o pope_n sovereignty_n or_o such_o doctrine_n as_o be_v afore_o express_v when_o the_o pope_n have_v sentence_v they_o 20._o that_o the_o people_n shall_v ordinary_o be_v forbid_v to_o read_v the_o scripture_n in_o a_o know_a tongue_n except_o some_o few_o that_o have_v a_o licence_n from_o the_o ordinary_a 21._o that_o public_a prayer_n praise_n and_o other_o public_a worship_n of_o god_n shall_v be_v perform_v constant_o in_o a_o language_n not_o understand_v by_o the_o people_n or_o only_o in_o latin_a greek_a or_o hebrew_n 22._o that_o the_o bread_n and_o wine_n in_o the_o eucharist_n be_v transubtantiate_a into_o the_o very_a body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n so_o that_o it_o be_v no_o more_o true_a bread_n or_o wine_n though_o our_o eye_n taste_n and_o feeling_n tell_v we_o that_o it_o be_v 23._o that_o the_o consecrate_a host_n be_v to_o be_v worship_v with_o divine_a worship_n and_o call_v our_o lord_n god_n 24._o that_o the_o pope_n may_v oblige_v the_o people_n to_o receive_v the_o eucharist_n only_o in_o one_o kind_n and_o forbid_v they_o the_o cup._n 25._o that_o the_o sin_n call_v venial_a by_o the_o papist_n be_v proper_o no_o sin_n and_o deserve_v no_o more_o but_o temporal_a punishment_n 26._o that_o we_o may_v be_v perfect_a in_o this_o life_n by_o this_o double_a perfection_n 1._o to_o have_v no_o sin_n but_o to_o keep_v all_o god_n law_n perfect_o 2._o to_o supererogate_v by_o do_v more_o than_o be_v our_o duty_n 27._o that_o our_o work_n proper_o merit_v salvation_n of_o god_n by_o way_n of_o commutative_a justice_n or_o by_o the_o condignity_n of_o the_o work_v as_o proportion_v to_o the_o reward_n 28._o that_o priest_n shall_v general_o be_v fordidden_v marriage_n 29._o that_o there_o be_v a_o fire_n call_v purgatory_n where_o soul_n be_v torment_v and_o where_o sin_n be_v pardon_v in_o another_o world_n 30._o that_o in_o baptism_n there_o be_v a_o implicit_a vow_n of_o obedience_n to_o the_o pope_n of_o rome_n 31._o that_o god_n be_v ordinary_o to_o be_v worship_v by_o the_o oblation_n of_o a_o true_a proper_a propitiatory_a sacrifice_n for_o the_o live_n and_o the_o dead_a where_o the_o priest_n only_o shall_v eat_v and_o drink_v the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n while_o the_o congregation_n look_v on_o and_o partake_v not_o 32._o that_o the_o canon_n of_o scripture_n be_v the_o same_o that_o be_v declare_v by_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n i_o will_v pass_v by_o abundance_n more_o to_o avoid_v tediousness_n and_o i_o will_v not_o stay_v to_o inquire_v which_o of_o these_o be_v proper_a to_o the_o papist_n but_o i_o be_o resolve_v so_o to_o receive_v many_o of_o they_o as_o they_o can_v prove_v a_o catholic_n succession_n of_o that_o be_v that_o they_o be_v in_o all_o age_n the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o universal_a church_n and_o i_o crave_v the_o charity_n of_o such_o a_o proof_n from_o some_o papist_n or_o other_o if_o they_o have_v any_o charity_n in_o they_o and_o that_o they_o will_v no_o long_o keep_v universal_a tradition_n in_o their_o purse_n and_o i_o will_v desire_v h._n t._n to_o revise_v his_o catalogue_n and_o instead_o of_o twenty_o or_o thirty_o dead_a and_o silent_a name_n that_o signify_v no_o more_o than_o blank_n or_o cipher_n he_o will_v prove_v that_o both_o those_o person_n and_o the_o catholic_n church_n do_v in_o every_o age_n hold_v these_o thirty_o two_o forementioned_a doctrine_n and_o when_o have_v do_v then_o let_v he_o boast_v of_o his_o catalogue_n till_o they_o will_v perform_v this_o task_n let_v they_o never_o more_o for_o shame_n call_v to_o we_o for_o catalogue_n or_o proof_n of_o succession_n but_o if_o they_o be_v so_o unkind_a that_o they_o will_v not_o give_v we_o any_o proof_n of_o such_o a_o catholic_n succession_n of_o popery_n we_o shall_v be_v ready_a to_o supererogate_v and_o give_v they_o full_a proof_n of_o the_o negative_a that_o there_o have_v be_v no_o such_o succession_n of_o these_o thirty_o two_o point_n as_o soon_o as_o we_o can_v perceive_v that_o they_o will_v ingenious_o entertain_v it_o though_o indeed_o it_o have_v be_v often_o do_v already_o but_o certain_o it_o belong_v to_o they_o that_o superinduce_v more_o article_n of_o faith_n to_o prove_v the_o continuation_n of_o their_o own_o article_n through_o all_o age_n of_o which_o anon_o well!_o but_o one_o of_o these_o article_n at_o least_o the_o pope_n sovereignty_n h._n t._n will_v prove_v successive_o if_o you_o will_v be_v credulous_a enough_o in_o the_o first_o age_n he_o prove_v it_o from_o peter_n word_n act._n 15._o 7_o 8_o 9_o 10._o god_n choose_v peter_n to_o convert_v cornelius_n and_o his_o company_n therefore_o the_o pope_n be_v the_o universal_a monarch_n be_v you_o not_o all_o convince_v by_o this_o admirable_a argument_n but_o he_o forget_v that_o bellarmine_n ragusius_n in_o council_n basil_n and_o other_o of_o they_o say_v that_o no_o article_n can_v be_v prove_v from_o scripture_n but_o from_o the_o proper_a literal_a sense_n to_o say_v somewhat_o more_o he_o unreasonable_o talk_v of_o the_o council_n of_o sardis_n and_o chalcedon_n a_o 400._o &_o 451._o lest_o the_o first_o age_n have_v but_o a_o blank_a page_n in_o the_o second_o age_n he_o have_v nothing_o but_o the_o name_n of_o a_o few_o that_o never_o dream_v of_o popery_n and_o a_o canon_n which_o you_o must_v believe_v be_v the_o apostle_n that_o priest_n must_v communicate_v of_o which_o we_o be_v well_o content_a in_o the_o three_o age_n he_o name_v fifteen_o bishop_n of_o rome_n of_o who_o the_o last_o be_v depose_v for_o offer_v incense_n to_o saturn_n jupiter_n etc._n etc._n but_o not_o a_o syllable_n to_o prove_v that_o one_o of_o these_o bishop_n be_v the_o universal_a monarch_n much_o less_o that_o the_o catholic_n church_n be_v for_o such_o monarchy_n but_o to_o excuse_v the_o matter_n he_o tell_v you_o that_o
they_o who_o persuade_v the_o king_n of_o france_n to_o join_v with_o the_o spaniard_n in_o the_o invasion_n of_o england_n and_o when_o the_o cardinal_n answer_v that_o the_o king_n of_o france_n be_v under_o a_o oath_n of_o peace_n with_o the_o queen_n of_o england_n the_o pope_n their_o best_a pope_n reply_v that_o the_o oath_n be_v make_v to_o a_o heretic_n but_o he_o be_v bind_v by_o another_o oath_n to_o god_n and_o the_o pope_n and_o add_v that_o that_o king_n and_o other_o sovereign_a prince_n tolerate_v themselves_o in_o all_o thing_n that_o make_v for_o their_o commodity_n and_o it_o be_v now_o come_v to_o pass_v that_o it_o be_v not_o impute_v to_o they_o nor_o take_v to_o be_v their_o fault_n and_o he_o allege_v the_o say_n of_o francisc_n mariae_fw-la duke_n of_o urbine_n that_o a_o nobleman_n or_o great_a man_n that_o be_v not_o the_o sovereign_n be_v blame_v and_o count_v infamous_a of_o all_o man_n if_o he_o keep_v not_o his_o faith_n but_o supreme_a prince_n may_v make_v covenant_n and_o break_v they_o again_o without_o any_o danger_n to_o their_o credit_n and_o may_v lie_v betray_v and_o commit_v such_o like_a practice_n these_o be_v your_o best_a pope_n poor_a man_n that_o can_v forgive_v other_o man_n sin_n and_o pardon_v they_o the_o pain_n of_o purgatory_n and_o can_v save_v their_o own_o soul_n from_o hell_n be_v they_o not_o like_a to_o govern_v the_o universal_a church_n well_o that_o can_v no_o better_o govern_v themselves_o or_o that_o one_o city_n where_o they_o dwell_v and_o be_v not_o these_o man_n worthy_a to_o be_v consult_v as_o infallible_a oracle_n by_o those_o that_o dwell_v at_o the_o antipode_n though_o it_o cost_v they_o their_o life_n to_o sail_v or_o travail_v to_o they_o can_v he_o be_v a_o christian_n or_o be_v save_v that_o believe_v not_o in_o one_o of_o these_o man_n or_o can_v any_o man_n receive_v the_o christian_a faith_n or_o scripture_n till_o he_o first_o know_v these_o good_a man_n to_o be_v christ_n infallible_a vicar_n and_o how_o many_o thousand_o whore_n be_v license_v at_o rome_n how_o sumptuous_o they_o live_v what_o revenue_n come_v to_o the_o pope_n by_o they_o many_o of_o your_o own_o mention_n and_o though_o some_o of_o you_o write_v for_o it_o and_o your_o pope_n still_o maintain_v it_o yet_o mariana_n one_o of_o your_o jesuit_n though_o he_o be_v for_o king-killing_a condemn_v this_o lib._n de_fw-fr spectaculis_fw-la cap._n 16._o and_o your_o claud._n espensaeus_n lib._n 3._o de_fw-la continentia_fw-la cap._n 4._o set_v it_o out_o with_o a_o witness_n lament_v rome_n as_o if_o it_o be_v turn_v all_o into_o one_o whore-house_n and_o be_v wail_v it_o that_o the_o jew_n shall_v so_o far_o shame_v you_o that_o no_o one_o of_o their_o child_n may_v play_v the_o harlot_n unless_o they_o first_o turn_v popish_a christian_n and_o be_v baptize_v and_o then_o they_o have_v their_o liberty_n of_o the_o gain_n that_o come_v to_o the_o pope_n and_o prelate_n by_o the_o simoniacal_a market_n of_o benefice_n save_v i_o the_o labour_n of_o recite_v and_o read_v but_o nicol._n clemangis_fw-la archidiaconus_fw-la baiosensis_fw-la tractde_fw-mi annatibus_fw-la non_fw-la solvendis_fw-la &_o alvarus_n pelagius_n de_fw-fr planctu_fw-la eccles_n lib._n 2._o art_n 15._o &_o l._n 1._o art_n 67._o &_o claud._n espensaeus_n in_o tit._n 1._o pag._n 68_o &_o cardinel_n cusanum_fw-la de_fw-la concord_n cathol_n lib._n 2._o cap._n 40._o &_o marc._n ant._n de_fw-fr dom._n spalatensem_fw-la de_fw-fr repub._n eccless_a lib._n 9_o c._n 9_o &_o budaeum_n li._n 5._o the_o ass_n &_o duarenum_fw-la 1_n c._n de_fw-fr sacris_fw-la eccles_n minist_n lib._n 5._o c._n 8._o &_o passim_fw-la rivet_n will_v direct_v you_o to_o many_o more_o yea_o that_o the_o odious_a sin_n of_o sodomy_n be_v common_a or_o too_o frequent_a with_o many_o of_o the_o clergy_n and_o pope_n themselves_o gluttony_n drunkenness_n and_o whoredom_n be_v the_o common_a small_a sin_n see_v the_o same_o rivet_n manifest_v at_o large_a out_o of_o the_o express_a complaint_n of_o maphaeus_n alvarus_n pelagius_n and_o many_o more_o of_o their_o own_o writer_n hoffmeister_n cite_v by_o grotius_n discussio_fw-la apol._n rivet_n p._n 72._o at_o come_v ep_n scopi_fw-la quidam_fw-la ignorant_a quid_fw-la sacramenti_fw-la vox_fw-la significet_fw-la cum_fw-la ipsos_fw-la pudent_fw-la sacramenta_fw-la per_fw-la seipsos_fw-la confer_v cum_fw-la omne_fw-la apud_fw-la ipsos_fw-la sint_fw-la venalia_fw-la cum_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la defraudent_fw-la suis_fw-la sacramentalibus_fw-la quae_fw-la vocant_fw-la quae_fw-la potest_fw-la sacramentis_fw-la apud_fw-la simplici_fw-la oar_n reverentia_fw-la jam_fw-la quod_fw-la ad_fw-la parachos_n &_o ecclesiastas_fw-la quod_fw-la attinet_fw-la vix_fw-la centesimus_fw-la cuique_fw-la de_fw-la sacramentis_fw-la ullam_fw-la facit_fw-la mentionem_fw-la in_o suis_fw-la ad_fw-la plebem_fw-la concionibus_fw-la hic_fw-la ex_fw-la ignorantia_fw-la ille_fw-la ex_fw-la negligentia_fw-la gravissime_fw-la peccatum_fw-la est_fw-la ab_fw-la episcopis_fw-la nostris_fw-la dum_fw-la numerantur_fw-la potius_fw-la ordinandi_fw-la quam_fw-la examinantur_fw-la &_o quantum_fw-la quis_fw-la nummorum_fw-la tantum_fw-la &_o favoris_fw-la habet_fw-la apud_fw-la quosdam_fw-la quae_fw-la hic_fw-la premo_fw-la prudens_fw-la lector_n intelligit_fw-la nolim_fw-la enim_fw-la hic_fw-la refer_v quales_fw-la episcopos_fw-la decanos_fw-la canonicos_fw-la pastor_n etc._n etc._n nobis_fw-la subinde_fw-la intrudat_fw-la potiùs_fw-la quam_fw-la ordinet_fw-la romana_fw-la curia_fw-la regum_fw-la item_n &_o principum_fw-la aulae_fw-la qui_fw-la omnes_fw-la juxta_fw-la jocum_fw-la cujusdam_fw-la familiam_fw-la svam_fw-la satiant_fw-la si_fw-la modo_fw-la tale_n bestiae_fw-la satiari_fw-la possent_fw-la muneribus_fw-la sacris_fw-la ab_fw-la equorum_fw-la stabulis_fw-la è_fw-la culina_fw-la rapiuntur_fw-la ad_fw-la sacerdotia_fw-la qui_fw-la quid_fw-la sacerdos_n sit_fw-la ne_fw-la persomnium_fw-la quidem_fw-la cogitarunt_fw-la homines_fw-la qui_fw-la professione_n sunt_fw-la indigni_fw-la papirius_n massonius_n that_o write_v the_o deed_n of_o the_o pope_n for_o their_o honour_n and_o seek_v his_o reward_n from_o sixtus_n quintus_fw-la say_v de_n episcop_n urb_v lib._n 6._o in_o gregor_n 13._o no_o man_n do_v now_o a_o day_n look_v for_o holiness_n in_o pope_n those_o be_v judge_v the_o best_a that_o be_v a_o little_a good_a or_o less_o naught_o then_o other_o mortal_n use_v to_o be_v pope_n pius_n the_o second_o be_v one_o of_o the_o best_a that_o your_o papal_a seat_n a_o long_a time_n have_v and_o yet_o in_o his_o epistle_n to_o his_o father_n epist_n 15._o that_o be_v angry_a with_o he_o for_o fornication_n he_o say_v ais_fw-mi dolerete_v i._n e._n you_o say_v you_o be_v sorry_a for_o my_o crime_n that_o i_o beget_v a_o son_n in_o sin_n or_o bastardy_n i_o know_v not_o what_o opinion_n you_o have_v of_o i_o certain_o you_o that_o be_v flesh_n yourselves_o do_v not_o beget_v a_o son_n that_o be_v make_v of_o stone_n or_o iron_n you_o know_v what_o a_o cock_n you_o be_v yourself_o and_o for_o my_o part_n i_o be_o not_o geld_v nor_o one_o of_o they_o that_o be_v frigid_a or_o impotent_a nor_o be_o i_o a_o hypocrite_n that_o i_o shall_v desire_v rather_o to_o seem_v good_a then_o to_o be_v good_a i_o ingenuous_o confess_v my_o error_n for_o be_o not_o holy_a than_o david_n nor_o wise_a than_o solomon_n it_o be_v a_o ancient_a and_o usual_a sin_n i_o know_v not_o who_o be_v without_o it_o a_o holy_a church_n you_o be_v that_o while_n this_o plague_n be_v spread_v far_o and_o near_o if_o it_o be_v a_o plague_n to_o make_v use_n of_o our_o natural_n though_o i_o see_v it_o not_o see_v nature_n which_o do_v nothing_o amiss_o have_v breed_v this_o appetite_n in_o all_o live_a creature_n that_o mankind_n shall_v be_v continue_v this_o be_v he_o that_o be_v the_o glory_n of_o your_o papacy_n that_o know_v none_o without_o this_o beastly_a sin_n and_o orichovius_n tell_v pope_n julius_n the_o three_o that_o pope_n paul_n the_o second_o his_o predecessor_n have_v a_o daughter_n in_o the_o eye_n of_o all_o man_n and_o of_o this_o pope_n julius_n the_o three_o onuphrius_n himself_o say_v that_o be_v a_o cardinal_n he_o follow_v voluptuousness_n as_o by_o stealth_n but_o be_v make_v pope_n and_o have_v what_o he_o will_v have_v he_o cast_v away_o all_o care_n and_o give_v up_o himself_o to_o his_o mirth_n and_o disposition_n of_o who_o thuanus_n say_v hist_o lib._n 6._o that_o he_o be_v very_o infamous_a as_o a_o cardinal_n but_o after_o past_a his_o life_n in_o great_a infamy_n and_o alvarus_n pelagius_n lib._n 2._o art_n 73._o fol._n 241_o etc._n etc._n lament_v whoredom_n as_o a_o common_a sin_n but_o special_o of_o the_o clergy_n tell_v we_o that_o the_o cause_n be_v because_o common_o the_o religious_a of_o that_o age_n be_v glutton_n or_o belly_n god_n arrogant_a proud_a incomparable_o beyond_o secular_a man_n converse_v with_o woman_n etc._n etc._n and_o drink_v more_o wine_n in_o their_o religious_a state_n then_o before_o and_o be_v common_o carnal_a and_o that_o the_o monk_n have_v their_o female_a devotary_n with_o who_o by_o the_o prelate_n
believe_v in_o this_o our_o own_o profession_n as_o well_o as_o you_o be_v in_o you_o when_o you_o make_v the_o decree_n of_o pope_n and_o council_n to_o be_v your_o law_n and_o rule_n and_o test_n we_o perform_v therefore_o more_o than_o you_o demand_v you_o ask_v we_o where_o be_v our_o church_n before_o luther_n and_o we_o answer_v where_o our_o religion_n be_v you_o ask_v we_o where_o be_v that_o and_o we_o tell_v you_o where_o ever_o the_o christian_a religion_n be_v and_o the_o holy_a scripture_n be_v receive_v this_o be_v enough_o for_o we_o in_o answer_n to_o your_o question_n but_o we_o do_v more_o we_o tell_v you_o not_o only_a where_o our_o church_n and_o religion_n be_v but_o where_o there_o be_v man_n that_o own_v not_o your_o grand_a corruption_n no_o more_o than_o we_o what_o can_v you_o demand_v more_o of_o we_o when_o you_o call_v for_o a_o succession_n of_o protestant_n then_o that_o we_o tell_v you_o of_o a_o succession_n of_o christian_n which_o be_v of_o our_o religion_n and_o which_o be_v no_o papist_n yea_o against_o popery_n which_o therefore_o be_v of_o our_o integrity_n and_o who_o know_v not_o that_o the_o foresay_a abassine_n armenian_n egyptian_n greek_n etc._n etc._n be_v against_o your_o papal_a sovereignty_n infallibility_n and_o all_o that_o be_v by_o we_o renounce_v as_o essential_a to_o popery_n o_o but_o say_v the_o juggler_n these_o be_v not_o protestant_n they_o differ_v from_o you_o in_o many_o particular_n i_o answer_v call_v they_o by_o what_o name_n you_o please_v they_o be_v not_o only_a christian_n but_o also_o antipapists_a or_o free_a from_o popery_n and_o then_o they_o be_v of_o our_o religion_n and_o church_n but_o indeed_o must_v the_o world_n be_v make_v believe_v that_o all_o that_o we_o believe_v be_v essential_a to_o our_o religion_n and_o that_o no_o man_n that_o differ_v from_o we_o can_v be_v of_o our_o religion_n be_v the_o difference_n never_o so_o small_a but_o say_v they_o tell_v we_o of_o a_o church_n that_o profess_v your_o 39_o article_n silly_a deceiver_n do_v not_o those_o very_a article_n profess_v that_o the_o holy_a scripture_n contain_v all_o thing_n necessary_a to_o salvation_n so_o that_o whatever_o be_v not_o read_v therein_o nor_o may_v be_v prove_v thereby_o be_v not_o to_o be_v require_v of_o any_o man_n that_o it_o shall_v be_v believe_v as_o a_o article_n of_o the_o faith_n or_o be_v think_v requsite_n or_o necessary_a to_o salvation_n art_n 6._o we_o never_o take_v these_o article_n instead_o of_o the_o scripture_n but_o the_o article_n and_o all_o protestant_n profess_v the_o scripture_n to_o be_v the_o only_a rule_n and_o test_n of_o their_o faith_n and_o religion_n the_o substance_n of_o the_o 39_o article_n may_v easy_o be_v prove_v to_o have_v be_v successive_o hold_v by_o the_o church_n from_o the_o beginning_n but_o it_o be_v not_o incumbent_n on_o we_o to_o prove_v that_o every_o word_n in_o the_o write_n of_o every_o divine_a or_o church_n have_v be_v so_o continue_v no_o more_o than_o you_o will_v own_v the_o write_n of_o any_o divine_n or_o provincial_a synod_n of_o your_o own_o as_o be_v the_o rule_n of_o your_o faith_n as_o you_o profess_v that_o the_o decree_n of_o pope_n and_o general_a council_n approve_v by_o he_o beside_o the_o scripture_n be_v the_o rule_n and_o test_n of_o your_o religion_n so_o do_v we_o profess_v that_o the_o scripture_n alone_a with_o the_o law_n of_o nature_n be_v the_o rule_n of_o we_o but_o what_o say_v they_o will_v you_o be_v of_o the_o same_o church_n with_o nestorian_n eutichian_o and_o other_o heretic_n i_o answ_n 1._o we_o will_v not_o take_v all_o for_o nestorian_n or_o eutichian_o that_o a_o railer_n can_v call_v such_o that_o never_o know_v they_o nor_o can_v prove_v it_o 2._o heretic_n indeed_o that_o deny_v any_o essential_a part_n of_o christianity_n be_v no_o christian_n anh_o therefore_o none_o of_o the_o church_n that_o we_o be_v of_o but_o if_o you_o will_v call_v those_o heretic_n that_o have_v all_o the_o essential_o of_o christianity_n because_o they_o err_v in_o lesser_a point_n we_o know_v that_o there_o be_v such_o in_o the_o catholic_n church_n we_o will_v be_v none_o of_o they_o ourselves_o if_o we_o can_v escape_v it_o yet_o indeed_o have_v no_o hope_n of_o escape_v all_o error_n till_o we_o be_v perfect_a in_o knowledge_n but_o we_o will_v not_o run_v out_o of_o the_o family_n of_o god_n because_o there_o be_v child_n and_o sick_a person_n in_o it_o nor_o will_v we_o for_o sake_n the_o catholic_n church_n because_o there_o be_v err_a person_n in_o it_o o_o but_o say_v the_o papist_n we_o acknowledge_v not_o your_o distinction_n of_o point_n essential_a and_o not_o essential_a all_o point_n of_o faith_n be_v essential_a with_o we_o and_o of_o necessity_n to_o salvation_n answ_n reader_n thou_o shall_v see_v here_o such_o impudent_a and_o faithless_a juggle_n as_o may_v make_v thou_o blush_v to_o think_v that_o christianity_n have_v such_o professor_n 1._o the_o outside_o of_o their_o assertion_n damn_v no_o aess_a than_o all_o the_o world_n that_o live_v to_o the_o use_n of_o reason_n 2._o the_o inside_n of_o their_o deceitful_a meaning_n be_v almost_o clean_a contrary_n and_o leave_v heathen_n and_o infidel_n in_o the_o church_n or_o in_o a_o state_n of_o salvation_n as_o well_o as_o christian_n 3._o it_o leave_v no_o one_o article_n of_o faith_n essential_a to_o a_o christian_a or_o to_o one_o that_o shall_v be_v save_v and_o leave_v the_o church_n a_o invisible_a thing_n clean_o contrary_a to_o their_o own_o assertion_n of_o its_o visibility_n 4._o and_o when_o they_o have_v thus_o wrangle_v themselves_o into_o a_o wood_n of_o contradiction_n and_o unchristian_a absurdity_n the_o wise_a of_o they_o say_v as_o we_o say_v in_o the_o main_a point_n all_o this_o i_o will_v now_o manifest_v to_o thou_o 1._o the_o outside_n of_o their_o assertion_n be_v that_o every_o point_n that_o we_o be_v bind_v to_o belive_o by_o a_o divine_a faith_n be_v fundamental_a or_o essential_a to_o christian_a faith_n or_o of_o necessity_n to_o salvation_n and_o if_o so_o than_o no_o man_n breathe_v can_v be_v save_v for_o no_o man_n know_v all_o that_o he_o be_v bind_v to_o know_v and_o no_o man_n believe_v that_o which_o he_o understand_v not_o it_o be_v impossible_a to_o believe_v that_o such_o a_o proposition_n be_v a_o truth_n distinct_o and_o actual_o when_o i_o understand_v not_o what_o the_o proposition_n be_v and_o that_o we_o all_o know_v but_o in_o part_n even_o what_o we_o be_v oblige_v to_o know_v no_o man_n will_v deny_v but_o he_o that_o be_v mad_a by_o pride_n or_o faction_n all_o that_o god_n have_v reveal_v in_o his_o word_n be_v the_o matter_n of_o our_o faith_n there_o be_v to_o man_n can_v say_v i_o have_v no_o culpable_a ignorance_n of_o any_o one_o truth_n of_o god_n that_o i_o shall_v believe_v have_v we_o be_v more_o perfect_a in_o our_o diligent_a study_n and_o prayer_n and_o use_v of_o all_o mean_n and_o have_v we_o never_o sinful_o grieve_v the_o spirit_n that_o shall_v illuminate_v we_o to_o say_v nothing_o of_o our_o original_a sinful_a darkness_n there_o be_v not_o one_o of_o we_o but_o may_v have_v know_v more_o than_o we_o do_v if_o sin_n of_o the_o will_n and_o life_n be_v consistent_a with_o true_a faith_n than_o some_o sin_n in_o the_o understanding_n be_v consistent_a with_o faith_n but_o the_o former_a be_v true_a therefore_o etc._n etc._n but_o according_a to_o the_o outside_n of_o their_o doctrine_n no_o man_n that_o have_v any_o sinful_a ignorance_n and_o consequent_o unbelief_n in_o his_o understanding_n can_v be_v save_v that_o be_v no_o man_n in_o the_o world_n if_o he_o that_o think_v he_o know_v any_o thing_n know_v nothing_o as_o he_o ought_v to_o know_v 1_o cor._n 8._o 2._o what_o shall_v be_v say_v of_o these_o man_n that_o think_v they_o and_o all_o the_o church_n do_v know_v all_o thing_n that_o they_o ought_v to_o know_v and_o that_o their_o understanding_n have_v no_o sin_n and_o must_v we_o needs_o be_v of_o that_o faith_n that_o damn_v all_o man_n and_o of_o that_o church_n where_o none_o be_v save_v 2._o as_o the_o outside_n of_o their_o assertion_n be_v make_v for_o a_o bugbear_n to_o frighten_v fool_n so_o that_o the_o inside_n as_o expound_v by_o many_o of_o they_o be_v that_o heathen_n and_o infidel_n may_v be_v of_o their_o church_n or_o save_v and_o that_o nothing_o of_o the_o chrian_a faith_n at_o all_o be_v necessary_a to_o salvation_n be_v plain_a for_o they_o '_o tell_v we_o that_o they_o mean_v that_o all_o point_n be_v of_o necessity_n where_o they_o be_v sufficient_o propose_v and_o man_n ignorance_n be_v not_o invincible_a but_o where_o there_o be_v no_o sufficient_a proposal_n but_o man_n ignorance_n be_v invincible_a or_o
bind_v to_o unite_v and_o assist_v each_o other_o in_o such_o work_n what_o be_v to_o be_v account_v heresy_n the_o law_n of_o god_n sufficient_o determine_v and_o what_o particular_a person_n be_v to_o be_v judge_v heretic_n and_o excommunicate_v according_a to_o that_o law_n the_o particular_a pastor_n that_o be_v on_o the_o place_n can_v better_o decide_v then_o a_o pope_n that_o be_v a_o thousand_o or_o five_o thousand_o mile_n off_o and_o can_v hear_v the_o witness_n and_o do_v you_o not_o yourselves_o decide_v almost_o all_o such_o case_n through_o the_o world_n that_o be_v of_o your_o subjection_n by_o the_o present_a pastor_n or_o bishop_n and_o not_o by_o the_o pope_n and_o why_o may_v not_o we_o do_v so_o then_o as_o well_o as_o you_o 9_o but_o if_o you_o lay_v all_o upon_o your_o pope_n or_o council_n infallibility_n i_o desire_v you_o but_o to_o read_v my_o three_o disputation_n in_o a_o book_n against_o popery_n call_v the_o safe_a religion_n and_o then_o believe_v that_o infallibility_n if_o you_o can_v i_o shall_v think_v myself_o a_o miserable_a man_n if_o i_o be_v not_o myself_o more_o infallible_a than_o many_o of_o your_o pope_n have_v be_v every_o christian_a while_o such_o be_v infallible_a in_o his_o belief_n of_o the_o christian_a faith_n and_o the_o scripture_n be_v a_o infallible_a ground_n of_o our_o belief_n 10._o be_v it_o not_o a_o plain_a judgement_n of_o god_n upon_o you_o that_o while_o you_o make_v the_o scripture_n so_o dark_a and_o not_o intelligible_a and_o cry_v up_o the_o necessity_n of_o a_o live_a judge_n you_o shall_v not_o only_o swarm_v with_o difference_n among_o yourselves_o but_o shall_v be_v utter_o disagree_v and_o at_o a_o loss_n to_o know_v who_o be_v this_o judge_n of_o controversy_n one_o say_v it_o be_v the_o pope_n and_o another_o that_o its_o the_o council_n and_o what_o the_o better_a be_v you_o for_o say_v there_o must_v be_v a_o judge_n as_o long_o as_o you_o can_v tell_v who_o it_o must_v be_v it_o be_v not_o only_o uncertain_a among_o you_o whether_o pope_n or_o council_n be_v the_o infallible_a judge_n but_o also_o which_o be_v a_o true_a pope_n and_o which_o be_v a_o lawful_a general_n council_n for_o forty_o year_n at_o least_o together_o the_o church_n can_v not_o know_v the_o true_a pope_n but_o the_o more_o learned_a and_o conscionable_a man_n be_v divide_v nor_o be_v it_o know_v to_o this_o day_n frequent_o the_o strong_a have_v carry_v it_o and_o success_n be_v his_o best_a title_n nay_o general_a council_n themselves_o know_v not_o the_o right_a pope_n the_o council_n at_o constance_n and_o basil_n know_v not_o the_o right_a pope_n they_o of_o basil_n think_v felix_n the_o five_o the_o true_a pope_n and_o eugenius_n no_o pope_n but_o friend_n and_o strength_n confute_v a_o general_n council_n and_o prove_v depose_v eugenius_n the_o pope_n and_o for_o council_n themselves_o who_o know_v which_o to_o take_v for_o currant_n and_o of_o authority_n what_o catalogue_n have_v you_o of_o reprobated_a council_n and_o of_o doubtful_a council_n and_o partly_o approve_v partly_o reprobate_a and_o who_o know_v which_o and_o how_o far_o but_o only_o that_o be_v approve_v that_o please_v the_o pope_n and_o that_o reprobate_a that_o displease_v he_o and_o yet_o perhaps_o approve_v by_o a_o former_a pope_n so_o that_o you_o be_v all_o in_o a_o confusion_n and_o uncertain_a about_o your_o true_a pope_n and_o general_a council_n and_o if_o you_o know_v they_o yet_o what_o a_o loss_n be_v you_o at_o to_o know_v their_o decree_n and_o canon_n what_o a_o fardel_n of_o false_a decretal_a epistle_n have_v you_o thrust_v upon_o the_o world_n as_o blondell_n dalleus_n reignolds_n and_o other_o have_v full_o prove_v forsooth_o decretal_n that_o use_v a_o translation_n of_o the_o scripture_n that_o be_v form_v a_o long_a time_n after_o the_o death_n of_o the_o suppose_a author_n of_o those_o epistle_n and_o decretal_n which_o make_v mention_v of_o person_n and_o thing_n that_o be_v many_o score_n or_o hundred_o year_n after_o the_o death_n of_o the_o say_a author_n these_o be_v your_o new_a scripture_n and_o by_o these_o our_o faith_n must_v be_v regulate_v and_o our_o controversy_n decide_v and_o your_o canon_n be_v abundance_n of_o they_o as_o uncertain_a some_o of_o your_o own_o will_v have_v but_o twenty_o canon_n of_o the_o first_o general_n council_n at_o nice_a some_o will_v have_v the_o new_a find_v rabble_n of_o addition_n much_o more_o uncertainty_n or_o certain_a forgery_n there_o be_v in_o the_o canon_n call_v the_o apostle_n and_o the_o like_a we_o may_v say_v of_o abundance_n more_o and_o now_o i_o appeal_v to_o all_o the_o impartial_a reason_n in_o the_o world_n whether_o your_o voluminous_a apocryphal_a uncertain_a faith_n that_o need_v a_o live_a judge_n and_o can_v find_v one_o or_o agree_v upon_o he_o and_o that_o leave_v your_o controversy_n still_o undecided_a be_v a_o like_a way_n to_o peace_n and_o unity_n than_o our_o short_a and_o plain_a article_n and_o infallible_a scripture_n faith_n that_o have_v less_o matter_n of_o contention_n and_o better_a mean_n to_o prevent_v it_o even_o faithful_a teacher_n and_o judge_n in_o every_o church_n and_o commonwealth_n which_o shall_v so_o far_o determine_v as_o may_v preserve_v the_o peace_n of_o those_o society_n leva_v the_o final_a full_a decision_n of_o all_o to_o the_o eternal_a judge_n that_o be_v even_o at_o the_o door_n 11._o yea_o and_o be_v not_o god_n hand_n of_o judgement_n yet_o more_o observable_a against_o you_o that_o when_o your_o pope_n and_o council_n have_v pass_v their_o judgement_n the_o several_a sect_n be_v unable_a to_o understand_v they_o witness_v the_o late_a sentence_n against_o the_o jansenist_n of_o which_o the_o person_n that_o seem_v to_o be_v condemn_v say_v that_o there_o be_v no_o such_o thing_n or_o word_n in_o all_o jansenius_n write_n as_o the_o pope_n say_v be_v in_o he_o and_o condemn_v as_o his_o and_o the_o controversy_n be_v as_o far_o from_o a_o decision_n as_o if_o the_o pope_n have_v hold_v his_o peace_n yea_o your_o great_a disputer_n here_o in_o england_n thomas_n white_a the_o novelist_n be_v the_o same_o for_o all_o the_o pope_n determination_n take_v another_o instance_n in_o the_o forementioned_a case_n whether_o the_o pope_n or_o council_n be_v supreme_a the_o council_n of_o constance_n and_o basil_n determine_v it_o one_o way_n as_o de_fw-fr fide_fw-la and_o yet_o that_o make_v no_o end_n of_o the_o controversy_n the_o council_n of_o lateran_n and_o pope_n leo_n determine_v it_o the_o other_o way_n and_o yet_o it_o be_v a_o controversy_n after_o two_o contrary_a decision_n and_o some_o say_v one_o way_n and_o some_o the_o oath_n and_o some_o say_v it_o be_v yet_o undecided_a for_o fear_n of_o anger_v the_o french_a by_o cast_v they_o off_o as_o heretic_n another_o instance_n the_o council_n at_o basil_n sess_z 36._o pag._n 80._o in_o binnius_n have_v full_o determine_v the_o controversy_n between_o the_o franciscan_n and_o dominican_n about_o the_o virgin_n mary_fw-mi immaculate_a conception_n and_o yet_o it_o be_v undetermined_a still_o and_o thomas_n white_n presume_v to_o affirm_v that_o certain_o there_o be_v no_o tradition_n for_o it_o nor_o any_o probability_n that_o ever_o the_o negative_a will_v be_v define_v apolog._n for_o tradit_fw-la pag._n 64_o 65_o 66._o yea_o he_o carry_v it_o as_o bold_o out_o as_o if_o never_o council_n have_v make_v or_o meddle_v with_o it_o i_o will_v therefore_o recite_v the_o word_n of_o the_o council_n which_o be_v these_o a_fw-la hard_a question_n have_v be_v in_o divers_a part_n and_o before_o this_o holy_a synod_n about_o the_o conception_n of_o the_o glorious_a virgin_n mary_n and_o the_o beginning_n of_o her_o sanctification_n some_o say_v that_o the_o virgin_n and_o her_o soul_n be_v for_o some_o time_n or_o instant_n of_o time_n actual_o under_o original_a sin_n other_o on_o the_o contrary_a say_v that_o from_o the_o begin_n of_o her_o creation_n god_n love_v she_o give_v her_o grace_n by_o which_o preserve_v and_o free_v that_o bless_a person_n from_o the_o original_a spot_n we_o have_v diligent_o look_v into_o the_o authority_n and_o reason_n which_o for_o many_o year_n past_a have_v in_o public_a relation_n on_o both_o side_n be_v allege_v before_o this_o holy_a synod_n and_o have_v see_v many_o other_o thing_n about_o it_o and_o weigh_v they_o by_o mature_a consideration_n do_v define_v and_o declare_v that_o the_o doctrine_n affirm_v that_o the_o glorious_a virgin_n mary_n the_o mother_n of_o god_n by_o the_o singular_a prevent_n and_o operate_a grace_n of_o god_n be_v never_o actual_o under_o original_a sin_n but_o be_v ever_o free_a from_o all_o original_a and_o actual_a sin_n and_o be_v holy_a and_o immaculate_a be_v to_o be_v approve_v hold_v and_o embrace_v of_o all_o catholic_n as_o godly_a and_o consonant_a
it_o it_o be_v not_o simony_n though_o he_o that_o resign_v do_v look_n at_o the_o money_n as_o his_o principal_a end_n and_o so_o tannerus_n p._n 115._o but_o the_o jansenist_n think_v otherwise_o father_n gaspar_n hurtado_n say_v thou_o a_o incumbent_n may_v without_o mortal_a sin_n wish_v the_o death_n of_o he_o that_o have_v a_o pension_n out_o of_o his_o live_n and_o a_o son_n his_o father_n death_n and_o may_v rejoice_v when_o it_o happen_v so_o it_o proceed_v only_o from_o a_o consideration_n of_o the_o advantage_n accrue_v to_o he_o thereby_o and_o not_o out_o of_o any_o personal_a hatred_n pag._n 136._o but_o the_o jansenist_n believe_v not_o this_o layman_n the_o jesuit_n and_o pet._n hurtado_n think_v that_o a_o man_n may_v lawful_o fight_v a_o duel_n accept_v the_o challenge_n to_o defend_v his_o honour_n or_o estate_n pag._n 138._o but_o the_o jansenist_n think_v otherwise_o sanchez_n and_o navarrus_n allow_v a_o man_n to_o murder_v his_o adversary_n secret_o or_o dispatch_v he_o at_o unaware_o to_o avoid_v the_o danger_n of_o a_o duel_n p._n 140._o and_o molina_n think_v you_o may_v kill_v one_o that_o wrongful_o inform_v against_o we_o in_o any_o court_n and_o reginaldus_n that_o you_o may_v kill_v the_o false_a witness_n which_o the_o prosecutor_n bring_v and_o tannerus_n and_o emanuel_n sa_o that_o you_o may_v kill_v both_o witness_n and_o judge_n which_o conspire_v the_o death_n of_o a_o innocent_a person_n but_o so_o think_v not_o the_o jansenist_n henriquez_n say_v one_o man_n may_v kill_v another_o who_o have_v give_v he_o a_o box_n on_o the_o ear_n though_o he_o run_v away_o for_o it_o provide_v he_o do_v it_o not_o out_o of_o hatred_n or_o revenge_n and_o that_o by_o that_o mean_v a_o gap_n be_v open_a for_o excessive_a murder_n destructive_a to_o the_o state_n and_o the_o reason_n be_v a_o man_n may_v as_o well_o do_v it_o in_o pursuance_n of_o his_o reputation_n as_o his_o good_n and_o he_o that_o have_v have_v a_o box_n on_o the_o ear_n be_v account_v dishonourable_a till_o he_o have_v kill_v his_o enemy_n and_o azorius_fw-la say_v be_v it_o lawful_a for_o a_o person_n of_o quality_n to_o kill_v one_o that_o will_v give_v he_o a_o box_n on_o the_o ear_n or_o a_o bang_n with_o a_o stick_n some_o say_v not_o but_o other_o affirm_v it_o lawful_a and_o for_o my_o part_n i_o think_v it_o probable_a when_o it_o can_v be_v avoid_v otherwise_o for_o if_o it_o be_v not_o the_o reputation_n of_o innocent_a person_n be_v still_o expose_v to_o the_o insolency_n of_o the_o malicious_a pag._n 142_o 143_o 144._o many_o other_o be_v of_o the_o same_o mind_n in_o so_o much_o that_o father_n lessius_fw-la say_v it_o be_v lawful_a by_o the_o consent_n of_o all_o casuist_n to_o kill_v he_o that_o will_v give_v a_o box_n on_o the_o ear_n or_o a_o blow_n with_o a_o stick_n when_o a_o man_n can_v otherwise_o avoid_v it_o p._n 145._o father_n boldellus_n say_v it_o be_v lawful_a to_o kill_v he_o that_o say_v to_o you_o thou_o lie_v if_o a_o man_n can_v right_v himself_o otherwise_o and_o lessius_fw-la say_v if_o you_o endeavour_v to_o ruin_v my_o reputation_n by_o opprobrious_a speech_n before_o person_n of_o honour_n and_o that_o i_o can_v avoid_v they_o otherwise_o then_o by_o kill_v you_o may_v i_o do_v it_o according_a to_o modern_a author_n i_o may_v nay_o though_o the_o crime_n you_o lay_v to_o my_o charge_n be_v such_o as_o i_o be_o real_o guilty_a of_o it_o be_v suppose_v to_o have_v be_v so_o secret_o commit_v that_o you_o can_v discover_v it_o by_o way_n of_o justice_n it_o be_v prove_v if_o when_o you_o will_v take_v away_o my_o reputation_n by_o give_v i_o a_o box_n on_o the_o ear_n it_o be_v in_o my_o power_n to_o prevent_v it_o by_o force_n of_o arm_n the_o same_o defence_n be_v certain_o lawful_a when_o you_o will_v do_v i_o the_o same_o injury_n with_o your_o tongue_n beside_o a_o man_n may_v avoid_v the_o affront_n of_o those_o who_o ill_a language_n he_o can_v hinder_v in_o a_o word_n honour_n be_v more_o precious_a than_o life_n but_o a_o man_n may_v kill_v in_o defence_n of_o his_o life_n ergo_fw-la he_o may_v kill_v in_o defence_n of_o his_o honour_n pag._n 146._o but_o the_o jansenist_n be_v against_o all_o this_o escombar_n say_v that_o regular_o it_o be_v lawful_a to_o kill_v a_o man_n for_o the_o value_n of_o a_o crown_n according_a to_o molina_n p._n 151._o father_n amicus_fw-la say_v it_o be_v lawful_a for_o a_o churchman_n or_o a_o religious_a man_n to_o kill_v a_o detractor_n that_o threaten_v to_o divulge_v the_o scandalous_a crime_n of_o his_o community_n or_o himself_o when_o there_o be_v no_o other_o mean_n leave_v to_o hinder_v he_o from_o do_v it_o as_o if_o he_o be_v ready_a to_o scatter_v his_o calumne_n if_o not_o sudden_o dispatch_v out_o of_o the_o way_n p._n 152_o 153._o and_o caramovel_n in_o his_o fundamental_a theology_n take_v it_o for_o certain_a and_o thence_o conclude_v that_o a_o priest_n not_o only_o may_v kill_v a_o detractor_n on_o certain_a occasion_n but_o sometime_o aught_o to_o do_v it_o and_o yet_o the_o peevish_a jansenist_n believe_v none_o of_o this_o but_o i_o must_v stop_v you_o may_v read_v in_o the_o say_a jansenian_o mystery_n of_o jesuitism_n a_o volumn_n of_o such_o passage_n of_o the_o jesuit_n allow_v man_n to_o give_v and_o receive_v the_o sacrament_n when_o they_o come_v that_o day_n from_o adultery_n and_o allow_v a_o man_n to_o eat_v and_o drink_v as_o much_o as_o he_o can_v with_o his_o health_n and_o discharge_v man_n from_o a_o necessity_n of_o loving_n god_n unless_o it_o be_v once_o in_o their_o life_n or_o as_o other_o say_v upon_o holiday_n or_o as_o hurtado_n de_fw-fr mendoza_n once_o a_o year_n or_o as_o conink_v once_o in_o three_o or_o four_o year_n or_o as_o henriquez_n once_o in_o five_o year_n or_o as_o anthon._n sirmond_n not_o at_o all_o so_o we_o do_v not_o hate_v he_o and_o do_v obey_v his_o other_o command_n with_o abundance_n more_o now_o reader_n i_o will_v here_o leave_v it_o to_o thy_o consideration_n whether_o all_o these_o difference_n among_o the_o papist_n be_v so_o small_a as_o to_o be_v no_o matter_n of_o faith_n and_o i_o entreat_v you_o to_o read_v over_o the_o forementioned_a book_n the_o mystery_n of_o jesuitism_n and_o then_o judge_v whether_o papist_n or_o the_o reform_a catholic_n be_v more_o at_o unity_n among_o themselves_o well!_o but_o suppose_v the_o love_a of_o god_n the_o avoid_v murder_n bribery_n and_o the_o like_a be_v no_o matter_n of_o faith_n at_o rome_n yet_o i_o have_v not_o do_v with_o they_o so_o i_o desire_v to_o know_v whether_o the_o holy_a scripture_n be_v matter_n of_o faith_n or_o not_o they_o dare_v not_o deny_v but_o it_o be_v well!_o and_o what_o be_v the_o scripture_n but_o the_o word_n ut_fw-la signa_fw-la and_o the_o sense_n or_o matter_n ut_fw-la res_fw-la significata_fw-la and_o be_v the_o papist_n agree_v among_o themselves_o about_o either_o of_o these_o no_o for_o the_o word_n it_o be_v well_o know_v how_o some_o of_o the_o best_a learned_a of_o they_o have_v stand_v for_o the_o pre-eminence_n of_o the_o hebrew_n and_o greek_a text_n and_o other_o and_o the_o most_o for_o the_o vulgar_a latin_a and_o that_o vulgar_a latin_a translation_n have_v be_v alter_v and_o alter_v again_o by_o they_o and_o after_o many_o other_o come_v pope_n sixtus_n the_o five_o and_o make_v it_o so_o complete_a that_o the_o church_n be_v require_v to_o use_v his_o edition_n yet_o after_o he_o come_v pope_n clement_n the_o eight_o and_o mend_v it_o in_o many_o hundred_o if_o not_o thousand_o place_n and_o impose_v this_o upon_o the_o church_n which_o of_o these_o pope_n be_v infallible_a i_o be_o sure_a they_o much_o differ_v in_o their_o translation_n and_o for_o the_o sense_n of_o scripture_n though_o man_n must_v swear_v to_o take_v scripture_n in_o the_o church_n sense_n yet_o will_v not_o any_o pope_n or_o council_n to_o this_o day_n tell_v we_o the_o sense_n of_o they_o either_o by_o give_v we_o a_o infallible_a commentary_n or_o by_o decide_v the_o many_o thousand_o difference_n that_o be_v among_o their_o commentator_n do_v not_o all_o these_o commentator_n forswear_v themselves_o have_v swear_v those_o that_o live_v since_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n to_o expound_v scripture_n in_o the_o sense_n of_o the_o church_n and_o only_o according_a to_o the_o unanimous_a consent_n of_o the_o father_n and_o why_o do_v not_o the_o pope_n decide_v these_o controversy_n see_v it_o be_v their_o happiness_n to_o have_v such_o a_o judge_n of_o controversy_n to_o keep_v they_o all_o of_o a_o mind_n but_o perhaps_o they_o will_v say_v that_o all_o these_o scripture_n be_v not_o matter_n of_o faith_n no_o where_o be_v we_o then_o what_o be_v matter_n of_o
pope_n and_o council_n their_o own_o polidore_n virgil_n de_fw-fr inven._n rerum_fw-la p._n 410._o lib_n 8._o c._n 4._o call_v we_o a_o sect_n do_v give_v you_o a_o just_a description_n of_o we_o ita_fw-la licentia_fw-la pacta_fw-la loquendi_fw-la etc._n etc._n i._n e._n have_v once_o get_v leave_n to_o speak_v that_o sect_n do_v marvailous_o increase_v in_o a_o short_a time_n which_o be_v call_v evangelicall_n because_o they_o affirm_v that_o no_o law_n be_v to_o be_v receive_v which_o belong_v to_o salvation_n but_o what_o be_v give_v by_o christ_n or_o the_o apostle_n mark_v what_o they_o confess_v themselves_o of_o our_o religion_n and_o yet_o these_o very_a man_n have_v the_o face_n to_o charge_v we_o with_o novelty_n as_o if_o christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n be_v not_o of_o sufficient_a antiquity_n for_o they_o our_o main_a quarrel_n with_o they_o be_v for_o add_v new_a invention_n in_o religion_n and_o their_o principal_a business_n against_o we_o be_v to_o defend_v it_o and_o yet_o they_o call_v they_o the_o old_a religion_n and_o we_o the_o new_a our_o argument_n lie_v thus_o that_o which_o be_v most_o conform_a to_o the_o doctrine_n and_o practice_n of_o christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n be_v the_o true_o ancient_a religion_n and_o church_n but_o our_o religion_n and_o church_n be_v most_o conform_a to_o the_o doctrine_n and_o practice_n of_o the_o apostle_n therefore_o it_o be_v the_o true_o ancient_a religion_n and_o church_n the_o major_n they_o will_v yield_v for_o no_o old_a religion_n be_v desirable_a further_o than_o as_o the_o law_n of_o nature_n and_o moral_a determination_n of_o god_n be_v still_o in_o force_n i_o suppose_v they_o will_v not_o plead_v for_o judaisme_n for_o the_o minor_a we_o lay_v our_o cause_n upon_o it_o and_o be_v ready_a to_o produce_v our_o evidence_n for_o the_o conformity_n of_o our_o religion_n and_o church_n to_o the_o doctrine_n and_o practice_n of_o the_o apostle_n that_o religion_n which_o be_v most_o conform_a to_o the_o holy_a scriture_n be_v most_o conform_a to_o the_o doctrine_n and_o practice_n of_o christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n but_o our_o religion_n and_o church_n be_v most_o conform_a to_o the_o holy_a scripture_n therefore_o etc._n etc._n they_o can_v say_v nothing_o against_o the_o major_n but_o that_o the_o scripture_n be_v insufficient_a without_o tradition_n but_o for_o that_o 1._o we_o have_v no_o rule_n of_o faith_n but_o what_o be_v by_o themselves_o confess_v to_o be_v true_a they_o acknowledge_v scripture_n to_o be_v the_o true_a word_n of_o god_n so_o that_o the_o truth_n of_o our_o rule_n be_v justify_v by_o themselves_o 2._o let_v they_o show_v we_o as_o good_a evidence_n that_o their_o additional_a article_n of_o faith_n or_o law_n of_o life_n come_v from_o the_o apostle_n as_o we_o do_v that_o the_o scripture_n come_v from_o they_o and_o then_o we_o shall_v confess_v that_o we_o come_v short_a of_o they_o let_v they_o take_v the_o controversy_n between_o we_o point_n by_o point_n and_o bring_v their_o proof_n and_o we_o will_v bring_v we_o and_o let_v that_o religion_n carry_v it_o that_o be_v apostolical_a but_o we_o be_v sure_a that_o by_o this_o mean_v they_o will_v be_v prove_v novelist_n for_o 1._o their_o tradition_n in_o matter_n of_o faith_n superad_v to_o the_o scripture_n be_v mere_a heretical_a or_o erroneous_a forgery_n and_o they_o can_v give_v we_o no_o proof_n that_o ever_o they_o be_v apostolical_a 2._o the_o scripture_n affirm_v its_o own_o sufficiency_n and_o therefore_o exclude_v their_o tradition_n 3._o i_o show_v you_o how_o in_o their_o own_o general_n council_n at_o basil_n the_o scripture_n sufficiency_n be_v defend_v 4._o i_o have_v show_v you_o in_o my_o book_n call_v the_o safe_a religion_n that_o the_o ancient_a father_n be_v for_o the_o sufficiency_n of_o scripture_n 5._o their_o tradition_n be_v the_o opinion_n of_o a_o divide_v sect_n contrary_a to_o the_o tradition_n or_o doctrine_n of_o the_o present_a catholic_n church_n the_o far_o great_a part_n of_o christian_n be_v against_o they_o 6._o we_o be_v able_a to_o show_v that_o the_o time_n be_v for_o some_o hundred_o year_n after_o christ_n when_o most_o of_o their_o pretend_a tradition_n be_v unknown_a or_o abhor_v by_o the_o christian_a church_n and_o no_o such_o thing_n be_v in_o be_v among_o they_o 7._o and_o we_o can_v prove_v that_o the_o chief_a point_n of_o controversy_n mantain_v against_o we_o be_v not_o only_o without_o scripture_n but_o against_o it_o and_o from_o thence_o we_o have_v full_a particular_a evidence_n to_o disprove_v they_o if_o the_o scripture_n be_v true_a as_o they_o confess_v they_o to_o be_v than_o no_o tradition_n can_v be_v apostolical_a or_o true_a that_o be_v contrary_a to_o they_o for_o example_n the_o papist_n tradition_n be_v that_o the_o clergy_n be_v exempt_a from_o the_o magistrate_n judgement_n but_o the_o holy_a scripture_n say_v let_v every_o soul_n be_v subject_a to_o the_o high_a power_n rom._n 13._o 1_o 2_o 3_o 4_o 5._o the_o papist_n tradition_n be_v for_o serve_a god_n public_o in_o a_o unknown_a tongue_n but_o the_o holy_a scripture_n be_v full_o against_o it_o their_o tradition_n be_v against_o lie_v man_n read_n the_o scripture_n in_o a_o know_a tongue_n without_o special_a licence_n from_o their_o ordinary_n but_o scripture_n and_o all_o antiquity_n be_v against_o they_o the_o like_a we_o may_v say_v of_o many_o other_o controversy_n so_o that_o these_o seven_o way_n we_o know_v their_o tradition_n to_o be_v deceitful_a because_o they_o be_v 1._o unproved_a 2._o against_o the_o sufficiency_n of_o scripture_n 3._o against_o their_o own_o former_a confession_n 4._o against_o the_o consent_n of_o the_o father_n 5._o contrary_n to_o the_o judgement_n of_o most_o of_o the_o catholic_n church_n 6._o we_o can_v prove_v that_o once_o the_o church_n be_v without_o they_o 7._o and_o they_o be_v many_o of_o they_o contrary_a to_o express_v scripture_n and_o if_o scripture_n will_v but_o show_v which_o of_o we_o be_v near_o the_o doctrine_n and_o practice_n of_o the_o apostle_n than_o the_o controversy_n be_v end_v or_o in_o a_o fair_a way_n to_o it_o for_o we_o provoke_v they_o to_o try_v the_o cause_n by_o scripture_n and_o they_o deny_v it_o we_o profess_v it_o be_v the_o rule_n and_o test_n of_o our_o religion_n but_o they_o appeal_v to_o another_o rule_n and_o test_n and_o thus_o you_o may_v see_v which_o be_v the_o old_a religion_n which_o will_v be_v somewhat_o fullyer_n clear_v in_o that_o which_o follow_v ii_o and_o that_o our_o church_n and_o religion_n have_v be_v continue_v from_o the_o day_n of_o christ_n till_o now_o we_o prove_v thus_o 1._o from_o the_o promise_n of_o christ_n which_o can_v be_v break_v christ_n have_v promise_v in_o his_o word_n that_o that_o church_n and_o religion_n which_o be_v most_o conform_a to_o the_o scripture_n shall_v continue_v to_o the_o end_n but_o our_o church_n and_o religion_n be_v most_o conform_a to_o the_o scripture_n therefore_o christ_n have_v promise_v that_o it_o shall_v continue_v to_o the_o end_n 2._o from_o the_o event_n the_o christian_a religion_n and_o catholic_n church_n have_v continue_v from_o the_o day_n of_o christ_n till_o now_o but_o we_o be_v the_o christian_a religion_n and_o catholic_n church_n therefore_o we_o have_v continue_v from_o the_o day_n of_o christ_n till_o now_o the_o major_n they_o will_v grant_v the_o minor_a be_v prove_v by_o part_n thus_o 1._o that_o religion_n which_o have_v all_o the_o essential_o of_o christianity_n and_o do_v not_o deny_v or_o destroy_v any_o essential_a part_n of_o it_o be_v the_o christian_a religion_n but_o such_o be_v we_o therefore_o etc._n etc._n 2._o that_o religion_n which_o the_o apostle_n be_v of_o be_v the_o christian_a religion_n but_o we_o be_v the_o same_o that_o the_o apostle_n be_v of_o therefore_o etc._n etc._n 3._o that_o religion_n which_o be_v near_o the_o scripture_n than_o the_o romish_a religion_n be_v certain_o the_o christian_a religion_n but_o so_o be_v we_o therefore_o etc._n etc._n 4._o they_o that_o believe_v not_o only_o all_o that_o in_o particular_a that_o be_v contain_v in_o the_o ancient_a creed_n of_o the_o church_n but_o also_o in_o general_a all_o that_o be_v beside_o in_o the_o holy_a scripture_n be_v of_o the_o christian_a religion_n but_o thus_o do_v the_o reform_a church_n believe_v etc._n etc._n 2._o and_o for_o our_o church_n 1._o they_o that_o be_v of_o that_o one_o holy_a catholic_n church_n whereof_o christ_n be_v the_o head_n and_o all_o true_a christian_n be_v member_n be_v of_o the_o true_a church_n for_o there_o be_v but_o one_o catholic_n church_n but_o so_o be_v we_o therefore_o etc._n etc._n 2._o they_o that_o be_v sanctify_v justify_v have_v the_o love_n of_o god_n in_o they_o be_v member_n of_o the_o true_a catholic_n church_n but_o such_o be_v all_o that_o be_v sincere_a
do_v reject_v the_o chief_a of_o the_o popish_a error_n as_o we_o do_v beside_o many_o particular_a point_n name_v in_o my_o safe_a religion_n they_o reject_v with_o we_o the_o pope_n catholic_n monarchy_n the_o pretend_a infallibility_n of_o the_o pope_n or_o his_o council_n the_o new_a form_n of_o the_o papal_a catholic_n church_n as_o head_v by_o he_o with_o other_o such_o point_n which_o be_v the_o very_a fundamental_a controversy_n between_o we_o and_o the_o papist_n so_o that_o beside_o that_o the_o papist_n themselves_o profess_v our_o religion_n the_o major_a part_n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n do_v profess_v it_o with_o the_o rejection_n of_o the_o papacy_n and_o papal_a church_n and_o so_o you_o may_v as_o easy_o see_v where_o our_o religion_n be_v before_o luther_n as_o where_o the_o catholic_n church_n or_o most_o of_o christian_n be_v before_o luther_n 3._o and_o beside_o both_o these_o our_o religion_n be_v profess_v with_o a_o yet_o great_a rejection_n of_o romish_a corruption_n by_o thousand_o and_o many_o thousand_o that_o live_v in_o the_o western_a church_n itself_o and_o under_o the_o pope_n nose_n and_o oppose_v he_o in_o many_o of_o his_o ill_a endeavour_n against_o the_o church_n and_o truth_n together_o with_o they_o that_o give_v he_o the_o hear_n and_o be_v glad_a to_o be_v quiet_a and_o give_v way_n to_o his_o tyranny_n but_o never_o consent_v to_o it_o concern_v these_o we_o have_v abundant_a evidence_n though_o abundance_n more_o we_o may_v have_v have_v if_o the_o power_n and_o subtlety_n of_o the_o papal_a faction_n have_v not_o have_v the_o handle_n of_o they_o 1._o we_o have_v abundance_n of_o history_n that_o tell_v we_o of_o the_o bloody_a war_n and_o contention_n that_o the_o emperor_n both_o of_o east_n and_o west_n have_v have_v with_o the_o pope_n to_o hinder_v his_o tyranny_n and_o that_o they_o be_v force_v by_o his_o power_n to_o submit_v to_o he_o contrary_a to_o their_o former_a free_a profession_n 2._o and_o we_o have_v abundance_n of_o treatise_n then_o write_v against_o he_o both_o for_o the_o emperor_n and_o prince_n and_o against_o his_o doctrine_n and_o tyranny_n some_o store_n of_o they_o goldastus_n have_v gather_v and_o intimation_n of_o more_o you_o have_v in_o their_o own_o expurgatory_n indices_fw-la 3._o and_o we_o have_v the_o history_n and_o profession_n of_o the_o albigenses_n waldenses_n bohemian_n and_o other_o that_o be_v very_o numerous_a and_o if_o raynerius_n say_v true_a they_o affirm_v about_o the_o year_n one_o thousand_o one_o hundred_o that_o they_o have_v coutinue_v since_o the_o apostle_n and_o no_o other_o original_a of_o they_o be_v prove_v 4._o particular_a evidence_n unanswerable_a be_v give_v in_o by_o bishop_n Ê‹sher_n de_fw-fr success_n &_o statu_fw-la eccl._n and_o answer_n to_o the_o jesuit_n and_o the_o ancient_a religion_n of_o ireland_n and_o in_o dr._n field_n and_o morneye_n mystery_n of_o iniquity_n and_o of_o the_o church_n and_o illyricus_n and_o many_o other_o 5._o even_o general_n popish_a council_n have_v contend_v and_o bear_v witness_n against_o the_o pope_n superiority_n over_o a_o council_n 6._o and_o in_o that_o and_o other_o point_v whole_a country_n of_o their_o own_o be_v not_o yet_o bring_v over_o to_o the_o pope_n 7._o they_o have_v still_o among_o themselves_o dominican_n jansenist_n etc._n etc._n that_o be_v reproach_v by_o the_o jesuit_n as_o side_v with_o calvin_n in_o many_o controversy_n as_o catharinus_n and_o many_o more_o in_o other_o most_o point_n of_o we_o which_o we_o oppose_v to_o popery_n be_v maintain_v by_o some_o or_o other_o of_o they_o 8._o but_o the_o full_a evidence_n be_v the_o certain_a history_n or_o knowledge_n of_o of_o the_o case_n of_o the_o common_a people_n and_o clergy_n among_o they_o who_o be_v partly_o ignorant_a of_o the_o main_a matter_n in_o controversy_n between_o we_o as_o we_o see_v by_o experience_n of_o multitude_n for_o one_o to_o this_o day_n and_o be_v general_o keep_v under_o the_o fear_n of_o fire_n and_o sword_n and_o torment_n so_o that_o the_o truth_n of_o the_o case_n be_v this_o the_o roman_a bishop_n be_v aspire_v by_o degree_n to_o be_v archbishop_n and_o so_o to_o be_v patriarch_n and_o so_o to_o have_v the_o first_o seat_n and_o vote_n and_o to_o be_v call_v the_o chief_a bishop_n or_o patriarch_n and_o at_o last_o they_o make_v another_o thing_n of_o their_o office_n and_o claim_v about_o six_o hundred_o year_n or_o more_o after_o christ_n to_o be_v universal_a monarch_n or_o governor_n of_o all_o the_o church_n but_o though_o this_o claim_n be_v soon_o lay_v it_o be_v comparative_o but_o few_o even_o in_o the_o west_n that_o make_v it_o any_o article_n of_o their_o faith_n but_o multitude_n side_v with_o the_o prince_n that_o will_v have_v keep_v the_o pope_n low_o and_o the_o most_o of_o the_o people_n meddle_v not_o with_o the_o matter_n but_o yield_v to_o necessity_n and_o give_v place_n to_o violence_n except_o such_o as_o the_o albigenses_n bohemian_n wicklefist_n and_o the_o rest_n that_o more_o open_o oppose_v so_o that_o no_o man_n can_v judge_v of_o the_o multitude_n clear_o which_o side_n they_o be_v on_o be_v force_v by_o fire_n and_o sword_n and_o have_v not_o the_o freedom_n to_o profess_v their_o mind_n so_o that_o in_o sum_n our_o religion_n be_v at_o first_o with_o the_o apostle_n and_o the_o apostolic_a church_n and_o for_o divers_a hundred_o year_n after_o it_o be_v with_o the_o universal_a christian_a church_n and_o since_o rome_n usurpation_n it_o be_v even_o with_o the_o romanist_n though_o abuse_v and_o with_o the_o great_a part_n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n that_o renounce_v popery_n then_o and_o so_o do_v now_o and_o also_o with_o the_o opposer_n of_o the_o pope_n in_o the_o west_n under_o his_o own_o nose_n you_o see_v now_o what_o succession_n we_o plead_v and_o where_o our_o church_n and_o religion_n still_o be_v if_o any_o deny_v that_o we_o be_v of_o the_o same_o church_n and_o religion_n with_o the_o greek_n abassine_n and_o most_o of_o the_o christian_a world_n yea_o all_o that_o be_v true_o christian_a i_o easy_o prove_v it_o 1._o they_o that_o be_v christian_n join_v to_o christ_n the_o head_n be_v all_o of_o the_o same_o church_n and_o religion_n for_o none_o else_o be_v christian_n or_o unite_a to_o christ_n but_o the_o church_n which_o be_v his_o body_n but_o the_o sincere_a greek_n abassine_n etc._n etc._n and_o we_o be_v christian_n unite_v to_o christ_n the_o head_n therefore_o we_o be_v all_o of_o one_o and_o the_o same_o church_n and_o religion_n 2._o they_o that_o believe_v the_o same_o holy_a scripture_n and_o differ_v in_o no_o essential_a part_n of_o the_o christian_a faith_n be_v of_o the_o same_o church_n and_o religion_n but_o so_o do_v both_o we_o and_o all_o true_a christian_n therefore_o we_o be_v all_o of_o one_o church_n and_o religion_n 3._o they_o that_o be_v true_o regenerate_v and_o justify_v hate_v all_o know_a sin_n long_v to_o be_v perfect_a love_v god_n above_o all_o and_o seek_v first_o his_o kingdom_n and_o righteousness_n and_o account_v all_o thing_n but_o as_o dung_n in_o comparison_n of_o christ_n these_o be_v all_o of_o the_o true_a catholic_n church_n and_o the_o true_a christian_a religion_n but_o such_o be_v all_o that_o be_v sincere_a both_o of_o the_o greek_n abassine_n etc._n etc._n and_o the_o reform_a church_n as_o we_o prove_v 1._o to_o other_o by_o our_o profession_n and_o practice_n by_o which_o only_o they_o be_v capable_a of_o judge_v of_o we_o 2._o to_o ourselves_o infallible_o against_o all_o the_o enemy_n of_o our_o salvation_n in_o hell_n or_o earth_n by_o the_o knowledge_n and_o acquaintance_n with_o our_o own_o heart_n and_o the_o experience_n of_o the_o work_n of_o god_n upon_o they_o all_o the_o jesuit_n in_o the_o world_n can_v persuade_v i_o that_o i_o love_v not_o god_n and_o hate_v not_o sin_n and_o prefer_v not_o the_o love_n of_o christ_n before_o all_o the_o world_n when_o i_o feel_v and_o know_v that_o i_o do_v till_o they_o can_v prove_v that_o they_o know_v my_o heart_n better_o than_o i_o do_v 4._o if_o christ_n consent_v to_o it_o and_o we_o consent_v to_o it_o than_o we_o be_v all_o that_o be_v sincere_a in_o their_o profession_n of_o the_o true_a catholic_n church_n and_o religion_n for_o if_o he_o consent_v and_o we_o consent_v who_o be_v there_o that_o be_v able_a to_o break_v the_o match_n but_o christ_n consent_v and_o we_o consent_v as_o we_o prove_v by_o part_n 1._o his_o consent_n be_v express_v in_o his_o gospel_n that_o whoever_o believe_v in_o he_o shall_v not_o perish_v but_o have_v everlasting_a life_n and_o whoever_o will_v may_v drink_v of_o the_o water_n of_o life_n free_o 2._o and_o our_o consent_n we_o open_o profess_v at_o baptism_n and_o have_v frequent_o renew_v and_o our_o own_o
be_v together_o by_o the_o ear_n who_o say_v that_o merit_n of_o condignity_n be_v but_o ex_fw-la pacto_fw-la by_o virtue_n of_o god_n promise_n and_o now_o i_o leave_v it_o to_o the_o conscience_n of_o any_o sober_a papist_n whether_o we_o be_v guilty_a in_o any_o one_o point_n that_o this_o great_a cardinal_n charge_v we_o with_o and_o whether_o papist_n and_o protestant_n be_v not_o in_o a_o fair_a way_n for_o reconciliation_n if_o we_o differ_v not_o more_o in_o other_o thing_n then_o in_o these_o and_o here_o again_o i_o must_v let_v they_o know_v that_o scripture_n only_o be_v the_o rule_n and_o test_n of_o our_o faith_n and_o religion_n their_o polidor_n virgil_n in_o this_o speak_v true_o of_o we_o say_v they_o be_v call_v evangelical_n because_o they_o maintain_v that_o no_o law_n be_v to_o be_v receive_v in_o matter_n of_o salvation_n but_o what_o be_v deliver_v by_o christ_n or_o his_o apostle_n so_o sapless_a and_o putid_v be_v their_o scorn_n of_o the_o evangelium_fw-la quintum_fw-la if_o therefore_o luther_n calvin_n or_o any_o man_n speak_v in_o any_o word_n amiss_o blame_v the_o man_n that_o speak_v it_o for_o that_o word_n but_o blame_v not_o all_o or_o any_o other_o for_o it_o if_o you_o be_v man_n austin_n retract_v his_o own_o error_n and_o which_o of_o we_o dare_v justify_v every_o word_n that_o have_v fall_v from_o our_o mouth_n or_o pen_n before_o god_n how_o many_o hundred_o point_n do_v schoolman_n and_o commentator_n charge_v on_o one_o another_o as_o erroneous_a among_o yourselves_o shall_v all_o the_o error_n of_o the_o father_n be_v charge_v on_o the_o catholic_n church_n or_o all_o your_o writer_n error_n upon_o you_o and_o that_o we_o do_v well_o to_o stick_v to_o the_o holy_a scripture_n as_o the_o sufficient_a rule_n we_o be_v the_o more_o encourage_v to_o think_v by_o the_o concession_n of_o our_o adversary_n of_o great_a note_n as_o well_o as_o by_o the_o testimony_n of_o the_o scripture_n itself_o and_o the_o consent_n of_o the_o ancient_a doctor_n of_o the_o church_n and_o the_o unprovedness_n of_o of_o their_o pretend_a additonal_n among_o other_o even_o this_o great_a cardinal_n richlieu_n say_v thus_o pag._n 38._o nos_fw-la autem_fw-la nullam_fw-la aliam_fw-la etc._n etc._n i._n e._n as_o for_o we_o we_o put_v or_o assert_v no_o other_o rule_n but_o scripture_n neither_o of_o another_o sort_n nor_o total_a yea_o we_o say_v that_o it_o be_v the_o whole_a rule_n of_o our_o salvation_n and_o that_o on_o a_o double_a account_n both_o because_o it_o contain_v immediate_o and_o formal_o the_o sum_n of_o our_o salvation_n that_o be_v all_o the_o article_n that_o be_v necessary_a to_o man_n salvation_n by_o necessity_n of_o mean_n n._n b._n and_o because_o it_o mediate_o contain_v whatsoever_o we_o be_v bind_v to_o believe_v as_o it_o send_v we_o to_o the_o church_n to_o be_v instruct_v by_o she_o of_o who_o infallibility_n it_o certain_o confirm_v we_o note_v here_o that_o 1._o he_o grant_v we_o that_o all_o article_n necessary_a to_o our_o salvation_n as_o mean_n be_v immediate_o and_o formal_o in_o the_o scripture_n and_o then_o sure_o they_o may_v be_v save_v that_o believe_v no_o more_o than_o be_v in_o the_o scripture_n 2._o that_o we_o be_v to_o believe_v no_o church_n but_o that_o which_o the_o scripture_n send_v we_o to_o and_o to_o believe_v its_o infallibility_n no_o further_o than_o the_o scripture_n do_v confirm_v it_o and_o that_o the_o scripture_n be_v our_o whole_a and_o only_a rule_n o_o that_o all_o papist_n will_v stand_v to_o this_o but_o let_v they_o not_o blame_v we_o now_o for_o stand_v to_o it_o have_v this_o cardinal_n do_v no_o more_o by_o policy_n and_o power_n then_o by_o dispute_v against_o the_o reformation_n he_o may_v easy_o have_v be_v deal_v with_o chap._n xl._o detect_v 31._o another_o of_o their_o fraud_n be_v by_o rank_v the_o protestant_n among_o the_o rabble_n of_o sect_n and_o heresy_n that_o be_v in_o the_o world_n and_o then_o ask_v ignorant_a soul_n if_o you_o will_v needs_o be_v of_o any_o sect_n how_o many_o be_v here_o before_o you_o and_o what_o reason_n have_v you_o rather_o to_o be_v of_o the_o protestant_n then_o of_o any_o other_o answ_n indeed_o this_o question_n be_v worth_a the_o consider_v by_o a_o papist_n or_o any_o sectary_n but_o the_o true_a catholic_n be_v quite_o out_o of_o the_o reach_n of_o it_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n be_v one_o and_o but_o one._n this_o one_o catholic_n church_n contain_v all_o the_o true_a christian_n in_o the_o world_n this_o be_v the_o church_n that_o i_o be_o a_o member_n of_o which_o be_v far_o wide_a than_o the_o roman_a church_n the_o church_n that_o i_o profess_v myself_o a_o member_n of_o contain_v three_o part_n 1._o the_o most_o sound_a and_o healthful_a part_n and_o that_o be_v the_o reform_a church_n 2._o the_o most_o unsound_a in_o doctrine_n though_o possess_v of_o many_o learned_a man_n and_o that_o be_v the_o papist_n themselves_o not_o as_o papist_n simple_o but_o as_o christian_n though_o infect_v with_o popery_n 3._o the_o middle_a part_n which_o be_v sound_a than_o the_o papist_n in_o doctrine_n but_o less_o learned_a and_o below_o the_o protestant_n in_o both_o and_o that_o be_v all_o the_o greek_n and_o other_o eastern_a and_o southern_a church_n that_o be_v no_o subject_n of_o the_o pope_n all_o these_o even_o all_o true_a christian_n be_v member_n of_o the_o church_n that_o i_o belong_v to_o though_o some_o of_o they_o be_v more_o sound_n and_o some_o be_v leprous_a or_o lamentable_o pollute_v to_o these_o i_o may_v add_v many_o particular_a lesser_a sect_n that_o subvert_v not_o the_o foundation_n as_o some_o anabaptist_n and_o divers_a other_o and_o will_v you_o ask_v i_o now_o why_o i_o will_v not_o be_v of_o another_o sect_n as_o well_o as_o of_o the_o protestant_n why_o my_o answer_n be_v ready_a a_o sect_n divide_v from_o the_o body_n i_o abhor_v i_o be_o of_o no_o sect_n it_o be_v the_o unity_n universality_n and_o antiquity_n of_o the_o church_n that_o be_v its_o honourable_a attribute_n in_o my_o eye_n protestant_n that_o unchurch_n all_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o world_n and_o count_v themselves_o the_o whole_a church_n of_o christ_n do_v in_o some_o sort_n make_v themselves_o a_o sect_n but_o where_o be_v there_o any_o such_o i_o know_v none_o such_o nor_o i_o hope_v ever_o shall_v do_v and_o therefore_o i_o may_v say_v that_o protestant_n be_v no_o more_o a_o sect_n than_o the_o patient_n in_o a_o hospital_n that_o be_v almost_o heal_v or_o then_o the_o high_a form_n of_o scholar_n in_o a_o school_n or_o then_o the_o merchant_n or_o rich_a sort_n of_o tradesman_n in_o a_o city_n and_o such_o a_o sect_n god_n grant_v that_o i_o may_v be_v of_o even_o one_o in_o the_o church_n that_o shall_v be_v of_o sound_a understanding_n and_o of_o pure_a worship_n and_o of_o the_o most_o careful_a holy_a honest_a life_n but_o still_o i_o shall_v acknowledge_v they_o of_o the_o low_a form_n even_o they_o that_o learn_v the_o a._n b._n c._n to_o be_v in_o the_o same_o school_n with_o i_o and_o if_o they_o papist_n or_o any_o other_o will_v disclaim_v i_o that_o shall_v not_o unchurch_n i_o as_o long_o as_o christ_n disclaim_v i_o not_o nor_o shall_v it_o provoke_v i_o to_o disclaim_v they_o any_o further_a than_o i_o see_v christ_n lead_v i_o the_o way_n so_o that_o the_o papist_n may_v see_v that_o if_o they_o will_v deny_v the_o church_n that_o i_o be_o of_o they_o must_v deny_v their_o own_o and_o all_o the_o christian_a world_n but_o how_o will_v they_o answer_v this_o themselves_o serious_o i_o profess_v that_o beside_o their_o other_o error_n it_o be_v one_o of_o the_o great_a reason_n why_o i_o dare_v not_o be_v a_o papist_n because_o than_o i_o know_v i_o must_v be_v a_o sectary_n what_o be_v a_o papist_n but_o as_o mere_a a_o sectary_n as_o any_o that_o retain_v a_o name_n in_o the_o church_n they_o be_v a_o company_n of_o man_n that_o have_v set_v up_o a_o humane_a usurp_a head_n or_o vice-christ_n over_o the_o catholic_n church_n own_v he_o themselves_o and_o unchurch_v and_o condemn_v all_o the_o church_n that_o will_v not_o own_v he_o the_o church_n that_o i_o be_o of_o be_v near_o thrice_o as_o big_a as_o the_o papist_n church_n be_v they_o be_v but_o a_o piece_n and_o a_o pollute_a piece_n that_o will_v divide_v itself_o from_o all_o the_o rest_n by_o condemn_v they_o and_o now_o i_o will_v serious_o desire_v any_o papist_n living_n to_o resolve_v the_o question_n if_o he_o will_v needs_o be_v of_o a_o sect_n and_o forsake_v the_o universal_a church_n why_o of_o the_o popish_a sect_n rather_o than_o another_o if_o because_o it_o be_v the_o great_a i_o answer_v it_o be_v less_o than_o the_o whole_a if_o because_o it_o
christianity_n 14._o we_o desire_v also_o to_o be_v inform_v by_o they_o what_o be_v the_o use_n of_o the_o church_n creed_n and_o why_o they_o have_v use_v frequent_o to_o make_v confession_n of_o their_o faith_n be_v it_o not_o the_o whole_a faith_n essential_a to_o christianity_n which_o they_o confess_v if_o not_o than_o it_o be_v not_o fit_a to_o be_v the_o badge_n of_o the_o church_n or_o of_o the_o orthodox_n if_o yea_o than_o it_o seem_v those_o creed_n have_v in_o they_o the_o essential_o distinguish_v from_o the_o rest_n 15._o we_o will_v know_v whether_o every_o thing_n deliver_v or_o define_v by_o any_o general_a council_n be_v of_o such_o necessity_n to_o salvation_n that_o all_o must_v explicit_o believe_v they_o all_o that_o will_v be_v save_v if_o so_o then_o whether_o any_o papist_n can_v be_v save_v see_v they_o understand_v they_o not_o all_o if_o not_o then_o sure_a a_o distinction_n must_v be_v make_v 16._o and_o we_o will_v know_v how_o they_o can_v countenance_v ignorance_n so_o much_o as_o they_o do_v if_o all_o thing_n reveal_v be_v of_o equal_a necessity_n to_o salvation_n 17._o and_o what_o mean_v they_o to_o distinguish_v of_o implicit_a and_o explicite_fw-la faith_n be_v it_o enough_o to_o believe_v as_o the_o church_n believe_v and_o not_o know_v what_o in_o any_o particular_a then_o it_o be_v not_o the_o fide_fw-la or_o necessary_a to_o salvation_n to_o believe_v the_o resurrection_n of_o christ_n or_o of_o man_n or_o the_o life_n to_o come_v for_o a_o man_n may_v believe_v that_o the_o church_n be_v in_o the_o right_n and_o yet_o not_o know_v that_o it_o hold_v any_o of_o these_o be_v it_o enough_o to_o believe_v the_o formal_a object_n of_o faith_n which_o with_o we_o be_v god_n veracity_n without_o the_o material_a or_o be_v it_o enough_o to_o remain_v infidel_n and_o only_o believe_v that_o the_o church_n be_v true_a believer_n if_o you_o hold_v to_o this_o you_o make_v no_o act_n of_o faith_n but_o one_o the_o believe_v that_o the_o church_n that_o be_v the_o pope_n or_o council_n be_v true_a believer_n to_o be_v of_o necessity_n to_o salvation_n but_o if_o there_o be_v something_o that_o be_v necessary_a to_o be_v actual_o that_o be_v explicit_o believe_v then_o must_v not_o that_o be_v distinguish_v from_o the_o rest_n and_o make_v know_v 18._o whence_o be_v it_o that_o you_o denominate_v man_n fideles_fw-la believer_n with_o you_o be_v it_o from_o a_o positive_a faith_n or_o for_o not_o hold_v the_o contrary_a if_o the_o latter_a than_o stone_n and_o beast_n and_o pagan_n and_o their_o infant_n may_v be_v believer_n if_o the_o former_a than_o that_o positive_a faith_n from_o whence_o all_o believer_n be_v denominate_v must_v be_v know_v 19_o be_v not_o that_o true_a faith_n and_o all_o that_o be_v essential_a to_o christianity_n which_o do_v consist_v with_o save_v grace_n or_o to_o use_v your_o phrase_n with_o true_a charity_n if_o not_o than_o either_o infidel_n and_o no_o christian_n may_v have_v true_a charity_n or_o else_o true_a charity_n may_v be_v in_o the_o unjustified_a or_o both_o if_o yea_o which_o doubtless_o you_o will_v yield_v then_o sure_a man_n of_o low_a knowledge_n and_o faith_n than_o doctor_n may_v have_v true_a charity_n and_o therefore_o true_a faith_n 20._o last_o i_o appeal_v to_o your_o own_o confession_n bellarmine_n often_o distinguish_v between_o the_o point_n that_o all_o must_v of_o necessity_n explicit_o believe_v and_o the_o rest_n and_o suarez_n in_o three_o part_n thom._n disp_n 43._o sect._n 4._o faith_n of_o the_o article_n of_o christ_n descend_v into_o hell_n if_o by_o a_o article_n of_o faith_n we_o understand_v a_o truth_n which_o all_o the_o faithful_a be_v bind_v explicit_o to_o know_v and_o believe_v so_o i_o do_v not_o think_v it_o necessary_a to_o reckon_v this_o among_o the_o article_n of_o faith_n because_o it_o be_v not_o altogether_o necessary_a for_o all_o man_n here_o you_o see_v that_o suarez_n distinguish_v between_o article_n of_o necessity_n to_o all_o and_o those_o that_o be_v not_o and_o that_o he_o except_v even_o the_o descent_n into_o hell_n from_o this_o number_n of_o article_n necessary_a to_o all_o i_o may_v cite_v many_o more_o of_o your_o writer_n but_o the_o thing_n be_v well_o know_v but_o perhaps_o you_o will_v say_v that_o though_o all_o that_o be_v de_fw-fr fide_fw-la be_v not_o necessary_a to_o be_v believe_v explicit_o by_o all_o yet_o implicit_o it_o must_v i_o ans_fw-fr 1._o that_o which_o you_o call_v implicit_a believe_v be_v no_o believe_v that_o point_n but_o another_o point_n yea_o a_o point_n that_o do_v not_o so_o much_o as_o infer_v that_o for_o it_o follow_v not_o the_o church_n be_v infallible_a therefore_o christ_n descend_v into_o hell_n 2._o and_o we_o believe_v all_o that_o be_v de_fw-fr fide_fw-la with_o a_o implicit_a faith_n as_o well_o as_o you_o but_o it_o be_v a_o implicit_a divine_a faith_n and_o not_o humane_a for_o we_o be_v sure_a that_o all_o that_o god_n say_v be_v true_a and_o this_o divine_a veracity_n be_v the_o formal_a object_n of_o our_o faith_n and_o we_o believe_v that_o all_o that_o be_v in_o scripture_n be_v true_a and_o that_o all_o that_o be_v ever_o deliver_v by_o the_o inspiration_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n be_v true_a object_n but_o all_o that_o be_v de_fw-fr fide_fw-la be_v so_o necessary_a that_o it_o will_v not_o stand_v with_o salvation_n to_o believe_v the_o contrary_a or_o deny_v or_o disbelieve_v any_o point_n of_o faith_n answ_n 1._o that_o can_v be_v true_a for_o no_o man_n can_v prove_v that_o a_o point_n may_v not_o be_v deny_v and_o dispute_v against_o by_o a_o true_a believer_n as_o long_o as_o he_o be_v ignorant_a that_o it_o be_v true_a and_o from_o god_n the_o same_o ignorance_n that_o keep_v he_o from_o know_v it_o may_v cause_v he_o to_o deny_v it_o and_o gainsay_v it_o 2._o do_v not_o your_o own_o differ_v commentator_n schoolman_n and_o casuist_n on_o one_o side_n at_o least_o dispute_v voluminous_o against_o some_o truth_n of_o divine_a revelation_n if_o you_o change_v a_o man_n mind_n from_o the_o small_a error_n by_o dispute_n do_v you_o take_v that_o to_o be_v a_o change_n of_o his_o state_n from_o death_n to_o life_n aenaeas_n silvius_n think_v a_o general_n council_n be_v above_o the_o pope_n but_o when_o he_o come_v to_o be_v pope_n pin_n the_o second_o he_o think_v the_o pope_n above_o a_o general_n council_n be_v this_o a_o change_n from_o death_n to_o life_n it_o seem_v by_o his_o bull_n of_o retractation_n he_o think_v so_o but_o so_o do_v not_o several_a general_n council_n be_v the_o catholic_n church_n representative_a at_o the_o council_n of_o basil_n or_o constance_n or_o pisa_n in_o a_o state_n of_o death_n and_o damnation_n for_o believe_v the_o pope_n to_o be_v subject_a to_o a_o general_n council_n or_o be_v the_o council_n at_o lateran_n another_o representative_a catholic_n church_n in_o a_o state_n of_o death_n for_o hold_v the_o contrary_a must_v either_o pope_n john_n the_o twenty_o second_o or_o pope_n nicolas_n be_v damn_v because_o of_o the_o contrariety_n of_o their_o decree_n if_o the_o council_n of_o toletane_a the_o first_o ordain_v that_o he_o that_o have_v a_o concubine_n instead_o of_o a_o wife_n shall_v not_o be_v keep_v from_o the_o sacrament_n do_v it_o prove_v they_o all_o in_o a_o state_n of_o death_n if_o bellarmine_n confess_v that_o the_o six_o general_n council_n at_o constantinople_n have_v many_o error_n do_v it_o follow_v that_o the_o catholic_n church_n representative_a be_v in_o a_o damnable_a state_n if_o the_o second_o council_n at_o nice_a maintain_v the_o corpercity_n of_o angel_n and_o the_o first_o council_n at_o the_o latarane_n maintain_v the_o contrary_a do_v it_o follow_v that_o one_o of_o they_o be_v in_o a_o state_n of_o death_n i_o think_v not_o though_o i_o be_o sure_a it_o prove_v a_o general_n council_n fallible_a when_o approve_v by_o the_o pope_n and_o therefore_o popery_n a_o deceit_n bellarmine_n sometime_o tell_v we_o of_o the_o change_n of_o his_o own_o mind_n and_o the_o retractation_n of_o austin_n a_o better_a man_n tell_v we_o of_o the_o change_n of_o his_o mind_n in_o many_o thing_n and_o yet_o it_o follow_v not_o that_o he_o be_v in_o a_o state_n of_o death_n and_o unjustified_a before_o object_n but_o all_o that_o be_v de_fw-fr fide_fw-la be_v of_o necessity_n to_o the_o salvation_n of_o some_o though_o not_o of_o all_o answ_n 1._o if_o that_o be_v grant_v yet_o you_o must_v grant_v we_o leave_v to_o distinguish_v between_o point_n necessary_a to_o be_v believe_v by_o all_o and_o point_n that_o be_v not_o thus_o necessary_a to_o all_o 2._o but_o in_o what_o case_n be_v it_o that_o you_o mean_v that_o other_o point_n be_v of_o necessity_n to_o some_o 1._o be_v it_o to_o those_o some_o
when_o they_o have_v no_o be_v since_o the_o death_n of_o the_o apostle_n 6._o and_o also_o that_o we_o be_v able_a to_o prove_v the_o death_n and_o burial_n of_o many_o thing_n that_o have_v go_v long_o under_o the_o name_n of_o tradition_n 7._o and_o when_o we_o find_v so_o lame_a a_o account_n from_o yourselves_o of_o the_o true_a apostolical_a tradition_n you_o be_v so_o confound_v between_o your_o ecclesiastical_a decree_n and_o tradition_n and_o your_o apostolical_a tradition_n that_o we_o despair_v of_o learning_n from_o you_o to_o know_v one_o from_o the_o other_o and_o of_o see_v under_o the_o hand_n of_o his_o holiness_n and_o a_o general_n council_n a_o catalogue_n of_o the_o true_a apostolical_a tradition_n and_o sure_o it_o seem_v to_o we_o scarce_o fair_a deal_n that_o in_o one_o thousand_o and_o five_o hundred_o year_n time_n if_o indeed_o there_o have_v be_v pope_n so_o long_o the_o church_n can_v never_o have_v a_o enumeration_n and_o description_n of_o these_o tradition_n with_o the_o proof_n of_o they_o have_v you_o tell_v we_o which_o be_v apostolic_a tradition_n but_o as_o full_o and_o plain_o as_o the_o scripture_n which_o you_o accuse_v of_o insufficiency_n and_o obscurity_n do_v deliver_v we_o their_o part_n you_o have_v discharge_v your_o pretend_a trust_n 8._o and_o it_o be_v in_o our_o eye_n a_o abominable_a impiety_n for_o you_o to_o equal_v your_o tradition_n with_o the_o holy_a scripture_n till_o you_o have_v enumerate_v and_o prove_v they_o and_o it_o make_v we_o the_o more_o to_o suspect_v your_o tradition_n when_o we_o perceive_v that_o they_o or_o their_o patron_n have_v such_o a_o enmity_n to_o the_o holy_a scripture_n that_o they_o can_v be_v right_o defend_v without_o cast_v some_o reproach_n upon_o the_o scripture_n but_o this_o we_o do_v not_o much_o wonder_n at_o for_o it_o be_v no_o new_a thing_n with_o the_o applauder_n of_o tradition_n we_o find_v the_o eight_o general_n council_n at_o constantinople_n can._n 3._o decree_a that_o the_o image_n of_o christ_n be_v adore_v with_o equal_a honour_n with_o the_o holy_a scripture_n but_o whether_o that_o be_v a_o apostolical_a tradition_n we_o doubt_v 9_o and_o if_o general_a council_n themselves_o and_o that_o of_o your_o own_o shall_v be_v for_o the_o sufficiency_n of_o scripture_n what_o then_o be_v become_v of_o all_o your_o tradition_n search_v your_o own_o binnius_n page_n 299._o whether_o it_o pass_v not_o as_o sound_v doctrine_n at_o the_o council_n of_o basil_n in_o ragusii_n orat._n sup._n 6._o that_o faith_n and_o all_o thing_n necessary_a to_o salvation_n both_o matter_n of_o belief_n and_o matter_n of_o practice_n be_v found_v in_o the_o literal_a sense_n of_o scripture_n and_o only_o from_o that_o may_v argumentation_n be_v take_v for_o the_o prove_v of_o those_o thing_n that_o be_v matter_n of_o faith_n or_o necessary_a to_o salvation_n and_o not_o from_o those_o passage_n that_o be_v speak_v by_o allegory_n or_o other_o spiritual_a sense_n sup._n 7._o the_o holy_a scripture_n in_o the_o literal_a sense_n sound_o and_o well_o understand_v be_v the_o infallible_a and_o most_o sufficient_a rule_n of_o faith_n is_n not_o here_o enough_o against_o all_o other_o traditional_a article_n of_o faith_n a_o plain_a man_n will_v think_v so_o yea_o but_o binnius_n note_v that_o he_o mean_v that_o explicitly_a or_o implicit_o it_o be_v so_o well!_o i_o confess_v the_o best_a of_o you_o be_v slippery_a enough_o but_o let_v we_o grant_v this_o for_o indeed_o he_o so_o explain_v himself_o afterward_o yet_o that_o be_v nothing_o for_o tradition_n he_o there_o maintain_v that_o scripture_n be_v the_o rule_n of_o faith_n not_o part_n of_o the_o rule_n for_o say_v he_o when_o the_o intellect_n happen_v to_o err_v as_o in_o heretic_n its_o necessary_a that_o there_o be_v some_o rule_n by_o the_o deviation_n or_o conformity_n to_o which_o the_o intellect_n may_v perceive_v that_o it_o do_v or_o do_v not_o err_v else_o it_o will_v be_v still_o in_o doubt_n and_o fluctuate_v it_o appear_v that_o no_o humane_a science_n be_v the_o rule_n of_o faith_n it_o remain_v therefore_o that_o the_o holy_a scripture_n be_v this_o rule_n of_o faith_n this_o be_v the_o rule_n john_n 20._o where_o be_v say_v these_o thing_n be_v write_v that_o you_o may_v believe_v that_o jesus_n be_v the_o son_n of_o god_n and_o believe_v may_v have_v life_n in_o his_o name_n and_o 2_o pet._n 2._o you_o have_v a_o more_o sure_a word_n of_o prophecy_n to_o which_o you_o do_v well_o that_o you_o attend_v as_o to_o a_o light_n etc._n etc._n and_o rom._n 15._o whatsoever_o thing_n be_v write_v be_v write_v for_o our_o learning_n etc._n etc._n and_o its_o plain_a that_o the_o foresay_a authority_n be_v of_o holy_a scripture_n and_o speak_v of_o the_o holy_a scripture_n etc._n etc._n the_o second_o part_n also_o be_v plain_a because_o if_o the_o holy_a scripture_n be_v not_o a_o sufficient_a rule_n of_o faith_n it_o will_v follow_v that_o the_o holy_a ghost_n have_v insufficient_o deliver_v it_o who_o be_v the_o author_n of_o it_o which_o be_v by_o no_o mean_n to_o be_v think_v of_o god_n who_o work_n be_v all_o perfect_a moreover_o if_o the_o holy_a scripture_n be_v want_v in_o any_o thing_n that_o be_v necessary_a to_o salvation_n than_o those_o thing_n that_o be_v want_v might_n lawful_o and_o deserve_o be_v superad_v from_o some_o thing_n else_o aliunde_fw-la or_o if_o any_o thing_n be_v superfluous_a be_v diminish_v but_o this_o be_v forbid_v rev._n 22._o from_o whence_o its_o plain_a that_o in_o scripture_n there_o be_v nothing_o defective_a and_o nothing_o superfluous_a which_o be_v agreeable_a to_o its_o author_n the_o holy_a ghost_n to_o who_o omnipotency_n it_o agreee_v that_o nothing_o deminute_o to_o his_o wisdom_n that_o nothing_o superfluous_o and_o to_o his_o goodness_n that_o in_o a_o congruous_a order_n he_o provide_v for_o the_o necessity_n of_o our_o salvation_n prov._n 30._o 5_o 6._o the_o word_n of_o god_n be_v a_o fiery_a buckler_n to_o they_o that_o hope_v in_o he_o add_v thou_o not_o to_o his_o word_n lest_o be_v reprove_v thou_o and_o thou_o be_v find_v a_o liar_n how_o like_v you_o all_o this_o in_o a_o popish_a general_n council_n and_o in_o a_o oration_n against_o the_o sacrament_n in_o both_o kind_n well!_o but_o perhaps_o the_o distinction_n unsaith_o all_o again_o no_o such_o matter_n you_o shall_v hear_v it_o true_o recite_v he_o proceed_v thus_o but_o for_o the_o further_a declaration_n of_o this_o rule_n as_o to_o that_o part_n it_o must_v be_v know_v that_o the_o sufficiency_n of_o any_o doctrine_n be_v necessary_o to_o be_v understand_v two_o way_n one_o way_n explicit_o another_o way_n implicitely_n and_o this_o be_v true_a in_o every_o doctrine_n or_o science_n because_o no_o doctrine_n be_v ever_o so_o sufficient_o deliver_v that_o all_o the_o conclusion_n contain_v in_o its_o principle_n be_v deliver_v and_o express_v explicit_o and_o in_o the_o proper_a term_n and_o so_o it_o be_v in_o our_o purpose_n because_o there_o be_v nothing_o that_o any_o way_n or_o in_o any_o manner_n n.b._n pertain_v to_o faith_n and_o salvation_n which_o be_v not_o most_o sufficient_o contain_v in_o the_o holy_a scripture_n explicit_o or_o implicit_o hence_o say_v austin_n every_o truth_n be_v contain_v in_o the_o scripture_n latent_fw-la or_o patent_n as_o in_o other_o science_n speculative_a or_o moral_a and_o civil_a the_o conclusion_n and_o determination_n be_v contain_v in_o their_o principle_n etc._n etc._n and_o the_o deduction_n be_v by_o way_n of_o inference_n or_o determination_n this_n be_v the_o plain_a protestant_a doctrine_n there_o be_v nothing_o any_o way_n necessary_a to_o faith_n or_o salvation_n but_o what_o be_v contain_v in_o the_o scripture_n either_o express_o or_o as_o the_o conclusion_n in_o the_o premise_n good_a still_o we_o desire_v no_o more_o let_v holy_a reason_n then_o discern_v the_o conclusion_n in_o the_o premise_n and_o let_v we_o not_o be_v send_v for_o it_o to_o the_o authority_n of_o rome_n nay_o send_v for_o some_o thing_n else_o that_o be_v no_o conclusion_n deducible_a from_o any_o scripture_n principle_n we_o grant_v tradition_n or_o church_n practice_n be_v very_o useful_a for_o our_o better_a understanding_n of_o some_o scripture_n but_o what_o be_v this_o to_o another_o traditional_a word_n of_o god_n prove_v your_o tradition_n but_o by_o inference_n from_o scripture_n and_o we_o will_v receive_v they_o yet_o let_v we_o hear_v this_o orator_n further_o clear_v his_o mind_n add_v to_o a_o doctrine_n may_v be_v understand_v four_o way_n 1._o by_o way_n of_o explication_n or_o declaration_n 2._o by_o way_n of_o supply_n 3._o by_o way_n of_o ampliation_n 4._o by_o way_n of_o destruction_n or_o contrary_a the_o first_o way_n be_v necessary_a in_o every_o science_n and_o doctrine_n and_o special_o in_o holy_a scripture_n not_o for_o itself_o
give_v the_o presbyterian_o and_o the_o presbyterian_o take_v they_o to_o be_v antichristian_a some_o of_o you_o be_v arminian_n some_o calvinist_n some_o say_v christ_n die_v for_o all_o and_o some_o say_v no_o some_o be_v for_o justification_n only_o by_o christ_n passive_a righteousness_n and_o some_o also_o by_o his_o active_a with_o other_o such_o difference_n even_o in_o these_o fundamental_a point_n i_o repeat_v their_o word_n just_a as_o i_o have_v hear_v they_o make_v use_v of_o they_o with_o the_o people_n and_o now_o i_o shall_v open_v the_o deceit_n of_o they_o in_o particular_a answer_n to_o each_o part_n and_o 1._o for_o the_o matter_n of_o unity_n i_o have_v speak_v of_o it_o before_o and_o dare_v leave_v it_o to_o all_o the_o world_n that_o be_v judition_n whether_o the_o papist_n or_o we_o be_v more_o unanimon_n or_o more_o divide_v only_o to_o the_o instance_n of_o division_n i_o shall_v speak_v further_o now_o 1._o for_o the_o matter_n of_o church_n government_n we_o be_v all_o agree_v in_o the_o substance_n of_o it_o except_o a_o very_a few_o straggler_n as_o concern_v the_o duty_n of_o penitence_n confession_n restitution_n contrition_n and_o of_o the_o excommunicate_v the_o obstinate_a and_o absolve_v the_o penitent_a etc._n etc._n all_o this_o we_o agree_v be_v the_o duty_n of_o the_o presbyter_n and_o we_o agree_v that_o these_o presbyter_n may_v have_v a_o precedent_n only_o some_o think_v that_o the_o precedent_n be_v ejusdem_fw-la ordinis_fw-la of_o the_o same_o order_n differ_v but_o in_o degree_n and_o have_v no_o power_n jure_fw-la divino_fw-la but_o what_o the_o presbyter_n have_v but_o only_o the_o exercise_n be_v restrain_v as_o to_o the_o presbyter_n by_o man_n but_o other_o think_v that_o the_o precedent_n be_v a_o bishop_n eminent_o of_o another_o order_n have_v not_o only_o the_o exercise_n but_o the_o power_n above_o the_o presbyter_n and_o be_v this_o difference_n so_o great_a a_o business_n and_o do_v not_o these_o cheater_n know_v that_o if_o for_o this_o they_o will_v reproach_v we_o they_o must_v do_v so_o by_o themselves_o know_v they_o not_o that_o among_o their_o own_o schoolman_n there_o be_v the_o same_o difference_n or_o in_o most_o point_n the_o same_o and_o know_v they_o not_o that_o if_o difference_n in_o ceremony_n or_o mode_n shall_v unchurch_n we_o or_o disgrace_v we_o it_o will_v fall_v as_o foul_a on_o the_o whole_a catholic_n church_n and_o that_o in_o the_o very_a primitive_a time_n do_v they_o never_o read_v of_o the_o difference_n between_o the_o asian_a and_o the_o roman_a church_n about_o the_o celebration_n of_o easter_n day_n and_o how_o polycrates_n and_o the_o rest_n do_v plead_v tradition_n against_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n tradition_n and_o how_o irenaeus_n do_v reprehend_v the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n for_o his_o uncharitable_a censure_n of_o the_o church_n for_o so_o small_a a_o difference_n and_o how_o polycarp_n and_o anicetus_n bishop_n of_o rome_n can_v not_o agree_v as_o build_v upon_o contrary_a tradition_n but_o yet_o maintain_v christian_a peace_n as_o eusebius_n out_o of_o irenaeus_n his_o epistle_n to_o victor_n tell_v we_o lib._n 5._o hist_o eccl._n cap._n 26._o and_o the_o english_a and_o irish_a church_n long_o after_o that_o adhered_a to_o the_o asian_a way_n even_o after_o the_o council_n of_o nice_a have_v end_v the_o controversy_n on_o the_o roman_a side_n and_o who_o know_v not_o how_o many_o more_o controversy_n great_a than_o these_o of_o we_o have_v be_v among_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n without_o their_o unchurch_a or_o disparagement_n to_o religion_n and_o for_o the_o doctrinal_a controversy_n mention_v most_o of_o they_o lie_v more_o in_o word_n then_o in_o sense_n and_o all_o of_o they_o be_v far_o from_o the_o foundation_n though_o they_o be_v about_o christ_n who_o be_v the_o foundation_n if_o one_o of_o your_o picture-drawer_n mistake_v the_o complexion_n of_o christ_n or_o if_o one_o shall_v say_v he_o be_v not_o bury_v in_o a_o sheet_n these_o be_v error_n about_o christ_n that_o be_v the_o foundation_n and_o yet_o far_o from_o the_o foundation_n those_o of_o we_o that_o say_v christ_n die_v for_o all_o and_o those_o that_o say_v he_o die_v not_o for_o all_o do_v agree_v as_o your_o schoolman_n do_v that_o he_o die_v for_o all_o as_o to_o the_o sufficiency_n of_o his_o death_n and_o price_n but_o he_o die_v not_o for_o all_o as_o to_o the_o actual_a efficiency_n of_o pardon_n and_o salvation_n be_v not_o this_o your_o doctrine_n and_o be_v not_o this_o we_o and_o be_v not_o you_o as_o much_o disagree_v about_o it_o as_o we_o what_o else_o mean_v the_o late_a decision_n against_o the_o jansenist_n and_o what_o mean_v the_o present_a persecution_n of_o they_o in_o france_n and_o yet_o have_v you_o the_o face_n to_o make_v this_o a_o reproach_n of_o we_o and_o for_o the_o righteousness_n of_o christ_n we_o be_v common_o agree_v that_o it_o be_v both_o his_o obedience_n and_o passion_n that_o we_o be_v justify_v and_o save_v by_o though_o we_o be_v not_o all_o of_o a_o mind_n about_o the_o reason_n of_o their_o several_a interest_n which_o difference_n be_v so_o far_o from_o unchristen_v we_o that_o it_o make_v no_o considerable_a odds_o among_o ourselves_o who_o be_v censorious_a enough_o in_o case_n of_o difference_n and_o for_o different_a form_n of_o worship_n sure_o these_o man_n do_v wilful_o forget_v what_o a_o number_n of_o office_n and_o mass_n book_n have_v be_v among_o themselves_o and_o other_o church_n and_o what_o a_o number_n of_o litany_n or_o liturgy_n of_o several_a age_n and_o church_n they_o have_v give_v we_o in_o the_o bibliotheca_fw-la patrum_fw-la but_o more_o of_o this_o anon_o 2._o and_o as_o for_o the_o change_n and_o unfixedness_n which_o they_o charge_v we_o with_o we_o be_v content_v that_o 1._o our_o principle_n 2._o and_o our_o practice_n be_v compare_v with_o the_o papist_n and_o then_o let_v even_o modest_a and_o judicious_a enemy_n be_v judge_n which_o of_o we_o be_v more_o fix_v or_o more_o mutable_a 1._o for_o our_o principle_n we_o take_v only_a christ_n to_o be_v the_o chief_a foundation_n of_o our_o faith_n and_o his_o inspire_a prophet_n and_o apostle_n to_o be_v the_o secondary_a foundation_n whereas_o the_o papist_n build_v upon_o many_o a_o most_o ungodly_a ignorant_a man_n because_o he_o be_v the_o pope_n of_o rome_n and_o which_o of_o these_o be_v the_o firm_a foundation_n 2._o we_o take_v nothing_o for_o our_o rule_n but_o the_o sure_a word_n of_o god_n contain_v in_o the_o holy_a scripture_n but_o the_o papist_n take_v the_o decree_n of_o all_o pope_n and_o council_n for_o their_o rule_n our_o rule_n they_o confess_v to_o be_v divine_a and_o infallible_a their_o rule_n we_o affirm_v to_o be_v humane_a and_o fallible_a which_o then_o be_v like_a to_o be_v more_o firm_a our_o rule_n the_o sacred_a scripture_n in_o the_o original_a language_n as_o to_o the_o word_n and_o the_o matter_n of_o they_o as_o to_o the_o sense_n the_o papist_n themselves_o confess_v unchangeable_a but_o whether_o they_o will_v say_v as_o much_o of_o their_o own_o i_o will_v try_v by_o two_o or_o three_o instance_n 1._o what_o a_o alteration_n pope_n sixtus_n and_o pope_n clement_n make_v in_o the_o vulgar_a latin_a bible_n which_o be_v one_o part_n of_o their_o rule_n i_o tell_v you_o before_o and_o dr._n james_n his_o bellum_n papale_n will_v tell_v you_o the_o particular_n 2._o the_o other_o part_n be_v their_o decree_n of_o which_o pope_n leo_n the_o ten_o in_o bulla_n contr_n luth._o in_o binnius_n page_n 655._o say_v the_o holy_a pope_n our_o predecessor_n never_o err_v in_o their_o canon_n and_o constitution_n and_o yet_o hear_v what_o pope_n julius_n the_o second_o say_v in_o his_o general_n council_n at_o the_o lateran_n with_o their_o approbation_n cant._n pragmat_fw-la sanct_a monitor_fw-la binnius_n vol._n 4._o pag._n 560._o though_o the_o institution_n of_o sacred_a canon_n holy_a father_n and_o pope_n of_o rome_n and_o their_o decree_n be_v judge_v immutable_a as_o make_v by_o divine_a inspiration_n yet_o the_o pope_n of_o rome_n who_o though_o of_o unequal_a merit_n hold_v the_o place_n of_o the_o eternal_a king_n and_o the_o maker_n of_o all_o thing_n and_o all_o law_n on_o earth_n may_v abrogate_v these_o decree_n when_o they_o be_v abuse_v you_o see_v here_o from_o the_o mouth_n of_o infallibility_n itself_o if_o the_o roman_a faith_n have_v any_o of_o what_o continuance_n we_o may_v judge_v their_o immutable_a decree_n to_o be_v of_o which_o be_v make_v as_o by_o divine_a inspiration_n they_o be_v immutable_a till_o the_o pope_n abrogate_v they_o who_o be_v in_o god_n place_n though_o of_o unequal_a merit_n o_o humble_a confession_n be_v of_o power_n to_o do_v it_o 3._o we_o have_v a_o rule_n that_o be_v perfect_v by_o christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n to_o which_o
my_o lecture-day_n from_o thursday_n to_o friday_n that_o i_o change_v my_o religion_n or_o the_o worship_n of_o god_n these_o be_v our_o great_a change_n well_o i_o will_v you_o now_o hear_v whether_o the_o papist_n or_o we_o be_v the_o great_a changeling_n 1._o some_o just_a change_n they_o have_v make_v themselves_o that_o they_o know_v well_o enough_o be_v as_o great_a as_o we_o it_o be_v so_o common_a in_o the_o ancient_a church_n to_o pray_v only_o stand_v on_o every_o lord_n day_n and_o not_o to_o kneel_v at_o all_o in_o any_o part_n of_o the_o worship_n of_o that_o day_n that_o it_o be_v take_v for_o a_o universal_a tradition_n and_o to_o kneel_v be_v take_v for_o a_o great_a sin_n and_o condemn_v by_o general_a council_n many_o hundred_o year_n after_o christ_n and_o yet_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n and_o other_o church_n as_o well_o as_o we_o have_v cast_v off_o this_o pretend_a tradition_n violate_v this_o decree_n of_o general_n council_n and_o forsake_v this_o universal_a custom_n of_o the_o church_n and_o the_o papist_n receive_v the_o eucharist_n kneel_v for_o all_o this_o law_n and_o custom_n in_o the_o primitive_a church_n and_o in_o tertullia_n day_n a_o common_a feast_n of_o the_o church_n be_v use_v with_o the_o lord_n supper_n and_o the_o sacrament_n take_v then_o but_o now_o this_o custom_n be_v also_o change_v it_o be_v then_o the_o custom_n to_o sing_v extempore_o in_o the_o congregation_n to_o god_n praise_n but_o now_o rome_n itself_o have_v no_o such_o custom_n it_o be_v once_o the_o custom_n to_o give_v infant_n the_o lord_n supper_n but_o now_o rome_n itself_o have_v cast_v off_o that_o custom_n once_o it_o be_v a_o canon_n that_o bishop_n must_v not_o read_v the_o book_n of_o gentile_n council_n carthag_n 4._o which_o yet_o paul_n make_v use_v of_o and_o the_o papist_n now_o do_v too_o much_o value_n abundance_n such_o change_n may_v be_v mention_v great_a than_o we_o in_o which_o we_o be_v justify_v by_o the_o papist_n themselves_o 2._o but_o they_o have_v yet_o other_o kind_n of_o change_n then_o these_o they_o have_v change_v the_o very_a essence_n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n in_o their_o esteem_n they_o have_v change_v the_o officer_n the_o doctrine_n the_o discipline_n the_o worship_n and_o what_o not_o as_o though_o they_o have_v be_v bear_v for_o change_n to_o turn_v all_o upside_o down_o in_o the_o primitive_a time_n the_o church_n have_v no_o universal_a monarch_n but_o christ_n but_o they_o have_v set_v up_o a_o new_a universal_a monarch_n at_o rome_n in_o the_o primitive_a time_n the_o catholic_n church_n be_v the_o universality_n of_o christian_n and_o they_o have_v change_v it_o to_o be_v only_o the_o subject_n of_o the_o pope_n in_o the_o primitive_a time_n rome_n be_v but_o a_o particular_a church_n as_o jerusalem_n and_o other_o church_n be_v but_o they_o have_v change_v it_o to_o be_v the_o mistress_n of_o all_o church_n for_o many_o hundred_o year_n after_o christ_n the_o scripture_n be_v take_v to_o be_v a_o sufficient_a rule_n of_o faith_n but_o they_o have_v change_v it_o to_o be_v but_o part_n of_o the_o rule_n in_o the_o ancient_a church_n all_o sort_n be_v earnest_o exhort_v to_o read_v or_o hear_v and_o study_v the_o scripture_n in_o a_o know_a tongue_n but_o they_o have_v change_v this_o into_o a_o desperate_a restraint_n proclaim_v it_o the_o cause_n of_o all_o heresy_n in_o the_o ancient_a church_n the_o bread_n and_o wine_n be_v the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n representative_a and_o relative_n but_o they_o have_v change_v it_o into_o the_o real_a body_n and_o blood_n heretofore_o there_o be_v bread_n and_o wine_n remain_v after_o the_o word_n of_o consecration_n but_o they_o have_v change_v so_o that_o there_o remain_v neither_o bread_n nor_o wine_n but_o the_o quality_n and_o quantity_n without_o the_o substance_n and_o this_o must_v be_v believe_v because_o they_o say_v it_o against_o scripture_n and_o antiquity_n and_o in_o despite_n of_o sense_n itself_o in_o the_o ancient_a church_n the_o lord_n supper_n be_v administer_v in_o both_o kind_n bread_n and_o wine_n to_o all_o but_o they_o have_v late_o change_v this_o into_o one_o kind_n only_o to_o the_o people_n deny_v they_o one_o half_a of_o the_o sacrament_n of_o old_a the_o lord_n supper_n be_v but_o the_o commemoration_n of_o the_o sacrifice_n of_o christ_n upon_o the_o cross_n and_o a_o sacrament_n of_o our_o communion_n with_o he_o and_o his_o member_n but_o now_o they_o have_v change_v it_o into_o a_o propitiatory_a sacrifice_n for_o the_o sin_n of_o the_o quick_a and_o dead_a and_o in_o it_o they_o adore_v a_o piece_n of_o bread_n as_o very_o god_n with_o divine_a worship_n of_o old_a man_n be_v teach_v to_o make_v daily_a confession_n of_o sin_n and_o beg_v pardon_n and_o when_o they_o have_v do_v all_o to_o confess_v themselves_o unprofitable_a servant_n but_o now_o they_o be_v so_o change_v that_o they_o pretend_v not_o only_o to_o be_v perfect_a without_o sin_n and_o to_o merit_v by_o the_o condignity_n of_o their_o work_n with_o god_n but_o to_o supererogate_v and_o be_v more_o perfect_a than_o innocency_n can_v make_v they_o by_o do_v more_o than_o their_o duty_n of_o old_a those_o thing_n be_v account_v sin_n deserve_v hell_n and_o need_v the_o blood_n of_o christ_n for_o pardon_n which_o now_o be_v change_v into_o venial_a sin_n which_o proper_o be_v no_o sin_n and_o deserve_v no_o more_o then_o temporal_a punishment_n of_o old_a the_o saint_n have_v no_o proper_a merit_n to_o plead_v for_o themselves_o and_o now_o man_n have_v some_o to_o spare_v for_o the_o buy_n of_o soul_n out_o of_o purgatory_n of_o old_a the_o pastor_n of_o the_o church_n be_v subject_a to_o the_o ruler_n of_o the_o commonwealth_n even_o every_o soul_n not_o only_o for_o wrath_n but_o for_o conscience_n sake_n be_v oblige_v to_o be_v subject_a but_o now_o all_o the_o clergy_n be_v exempt_v from_o secular_a judgement_n and_o yet_o the_o secular_a power_n be_v subject_a to_o they_o for_o the_o pope_n have_v power_n to_o depose_v prince_n and_o dispossess_v they_o of_o their_o dominion_n and_o put_v other_o in_o their_o room_n and_o dissolve_v the_o bond_n of_o oath_n and_o covenant_n in_o which_o the_o subject_n be_v oblige_v to_o they_o and_o to_o allow_v man_n to_o murder_v they_o by_o stab_v poison_v etc._n etc._n if_o you_o do_v not_o believe_v i_o stay_v but_o till_o i_o come_v to_o it_o and_o i_o shall_v give_v you_o yet_o some_o further_a proof_n will_v you_o have_v any_o more_o of_o the_o popish_a change_n why_o i_o may_v fill_v a_o volume_n with_o they_o shall_v i_o but_o recite_v all_o the_o change_v they_o have_v make_v in_o doctrine_n and_o all_o that_o they_o have_v make_v in_o church_n order_n and_o discipline_n and_o religious_a order_n and_o their_o discipline_n and_o in_o worship_n and_o ceremony_n i_o shall_v be_v over_o tedious_a their_o very_a liturgy_n or_o mass-book_n have_v be_v change_v and_o make_v by_o change_n such_o abundance_n of_o addition_n it_o have_v have_v since_o the_o begin_n of_o it_o what_o change_v sixtus_n the_o five_o and_o clement_n the_o eight_o make_v in_o their_o bibles_n i_o tell_v you_o before_o as_o also_o what_o change_v they_o have_v have_v in_o the_o election_n of_o their_o pope_n and_o now_o i_o be_o content_a that_o any_o impartial_a man_n be_v judge_v whether_o papist_n or_o the_o reform_a church_n be_v the_o more_o mutable_a and_o unsettle_a in_o their_o religion_n and_o which_o of_o they_o be_v at_o the_o great_a certainty_n firmness_n and_o immutability_n chap._n xxiv_o detect_v 15._o another_o fraud_n of_o the_o papist_n which_o they_o place_v not_o the_o least_o of_o their_o confidence_n in_o be_v this_o they_o persuade_v the_o people_n that_o our_o church_n and_o religion_n be_v but_o new_a of_o the_o other_o day_n invention_n and_o that_o they_o be_v the_o only_a old_a religion_n and_o therefore_o they_o call_v upon_o we_o to_o give_v they_o a_o catalogue_n of_o the_o professor_n of_o our_o religion_n in_o all_o age_n which_o they_o pretend_v we_o can_v do_v and_o ask_v we_o where_o our_o church_n be_v before_o luther_n to_o this_o we_o shall_v give_v they_o once_o more_o a_o brief_a but_o satisfactory_a answer_n i._o we_o be_v so_o full_o assure_v that_o the_o old_a religion_n be_v the_o best_a since_o the_o date_n of_o the_o gospel_n that_o we_o be_v content_v that_o our_o whole_a cause_n do_v stand_v or_o fall_v by_o this_o trial_n let_v he_o be_v esteem_v of_o the_o true_a religion_n that_o be_v of_o the_o old_a religion_n this_o be_v the_o main_a difference_n between_o we_o and_o the_o papist_n we_o be_v for_o no_o religion_n that_o be_v not_o as_o old_a as_o the_o day_n of_o the_o apostle_n but_o they_o be_v for_o the_o novelty_n and_o addition_n of_o
professor_n of_o our_o religion_n therefore_o etc._n etc._n but_o all_o this_o will_v not_o serve_v they_o without_o a_o catalogue_n and_o tell_v they_o where_o our_o church_n be_v before_o luther_n to_o this_o we_o further_o answer_v we_o have_v no_o peculiar_a catholic_n church_n of_o our_o own_o for_o there_o be_v but_o one_o and_o that_o be_v our_o church_n wherever_o the_o christian_a church_n be_v there_o be_v our_o church_n and_o wherever_o any_o christian_n be_v congregate_v for_o god_n worship_n there_o be_v church_n of_o the_o same_o sort_n as_o our_o particular_a church_n and_o wherever_o christianity_n be_v there_o our_o religion_n be_v for_o we_o know_v no_o religion_n but_o christianity_n and_o will_v you_o have_v we_o give_v you_o a_o catalogue_n of_o all_o the_o christian_n in_o the_o world_n since_o christ_n or_o will_v you_o have_v we_o as_o vain_a as_o h._n t._n in_o his_o manual_a that_o name_v you_o some_o pope_n and_o about_o twenty_o professor_n of_o their_o faith_n in_o each_o age_n as_o if_o twenty_o or_o thirty_o man_n be_v the_o catholic_n church_n or_o as_o if_o those_o man_n be_v prove_v to_o be_v papist_n by_o his_o name_v they_o this_o be_v easy_a but_o silly_a dispute_v in_o a_o word_n our_o religion_n be_v christianity_n 1._o christianity_n have_v certain_a essential_o without_o which_o no_o man_n can_v be_v a_o christian_n and_o it_o have_v moreover_o many_o precious_a truth_n and_o duty_n necessary_a necessitate_v praecepti_fw-la and_o also_o necessitate_v medii_fw-la to_o the_o better_a be_v of_o a_o christian_n our_o be_v as_o christian_n be_v in_o the_o former_a and_o our_o strength_n and_o increase_n and_o better-being_a be_v much_o in_o the_o latter_a from_o the_o former_a religion_n and_o the_o church_n be_v denominate_v moreover_o 2._o our_o implicit_a and_o actual_a explicit_a belief_n as_o the_o papist_n call_v they_o must_v be_v distinguish_v or_o our_o general_n and_o our_o particular_a belief_n 3._o and_o also_o the_o positives_n of_o our_o belief_n must_v be_v distinguish_v from_o the_o employ_v negative_n and_o the_o express_a article_n themselves_o from_o their_o employ_v consectary_n and_o now_o premise_v these_o three_o distinction_n i_o shall_v tell_v you_o where_o our_o church_n have_v be_v in_o all_o age_n since_o the_o birth_n of_o christ_n 1._o in_o the_o day_n of_o christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n our_o church_n be_v where_o they_o and_o all_o christian_n be_v and_o our_o religion_n be_v with_o they_o in_o all_o its_o part_n both_o essential_a and_o perfective_a that_o be_v we_o now_o believe_v 1._o all_o to_o be_v true_a that_o be_v deliver_v by_o the_o apostle_n as_o from_o god_n with_o a_o general_n faith_n 2._o we_o believe_v all_o the_o essential_o and_o as_o much_o more_o as_o we_o can_v understand_v with_o a_o particular_a faith_n 3._o but_o we_o can_v say_v that_o with_o such_o a_o particular_a faith_n we_o believe_v all_o that_o the_o apostle_n believe_v or_o deliver_v for_o than_o we_o must_v say_v that_o we_o have_v the_o same_o degree_n of_o understanding_n as_o they_o and_o that_o we_o understand_v every_o word_n of_o the_o scripture_n 2._o in_o the_o day_n of_o the_o a_o postle_n themselves_o the_o consectary_n and_o imply_v verity_n and_o rejection_n of_o all_o heresy_n be_v not_o particular_o and_o express_o deliver_v either_o in_o scripture_n or_o tradition_n as_o the_o papist_n will_v confess_v 3._o in_o the_o next_o age_n after_o the_o apostle_n our_o church_n be_v the_o one_o catholic_n church_n contain_v all_o true_a christian_n head_v by_o jesus_n christ_n and_o every_o such_o christian_a too_o many_o to_o number_v be_v a_o member_n of_o it_o and_o for_o our_o religion_n the_o essential_a part_n of_o it_o be_v contain_v both_o in_o the_o holy_a scripture_n and_o in_o the_o public_a profession_n ordinance_n and_o practice_n of_o the_o church_n in_o those_o age_n which_o you_o call_v tradition_n and_o the_o rest_n of_o it_o even_o all_o the_o doctrine_n of_o faith_n and_o universal_a law_n of_o god_n which_o be_v its_o perfective_a part_n they_o be_v full_o contain_v in_o the_o holy_a scripture_n and_o some_o of_o our_o rejection_n and_o consectary_n be_v then_o gather_v and_o own_a by_o the_o church_n as_o heresy_n occasion_v the_o express_v of_o they_o and_o the_o rest_n be_v all_o employ_v in_o the_o apostolical_a scripture_n doctrine_n which_o they_o preserve_v 4._o by_o degree_n many_o error_n creep_v into_o the_o church_n yet_o so_o that_o 1._o neither_o the_o catholic_n church_n nor_o one_o true_a christian_a in_o sensu_fw-la composito_fw-la at_o least_o do_v reject_v any_o essential_a part_n of_o christianity_n 2._o and_o all_o part_n of_o the_o church_n be_v not_o alike_o corrupt_v with_o error_n but_o some_o more_o and_o some_o less_o 3._o and_o still_o the_o whole_a church_n hold_v the_o holy_a scripture_n itself_o and_o so_o have_v a_o perfect_a general_n or_o implicit_a belief_n even_o while_o by_o evil_a consequence_n they_o oppugn_v many_o part_n of_o their_o own_o profession_n 5._o when_o in_o process_n of_o time_n by_o claim_v the_o universal_a sovereignty_n rome_n have_v introduce_v a_o new_a pretend_a catholic_n church_n so_o far_o as_o their_o opinion_n take_v by_o superad_v a_o new_a head_n and_o form_n there_o be_v then_o a_o two_o fold_v church_n in_o the_o west_n the_o christian_a as_o christian_a head_v by_o christ_n and_o the_o papal_z as_o papal_z head_v by_o the_o pope_n yet_o so_o as_o they_o call_v it_o but_o one_o church_n and_o by_o this_o usurp_a monarchy_n as_o under_o christ_n endeavour_v to_o make_v but_o one_o of_o they_o by_o make_v both_o the_o head_n essential_a when_o before_o one_o only_o be_v tolerable_a and_o if_o the_o matter_n in_o any_o part_n may_v be_v the_o same_o and_o the_o same_o man_n be_v a_o christian_n and_o a_o papist_n and_o so_o the_o same_o assembly_n yet_o still_o the_o form_n be_v various_a and_o as_o christian_n and_o part_n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n they_o be_v one_o thing_n and_o as_o papist_n and_o member_n of_o the_o separate_a sect_n they_o be_v another_o thing_n till_o this_o time_n there_o be_v no_o doubt_n of_o our_o church_n visibility_n 6._o in_o this_o time_n of_o the_o romish_a usurpation_n our_o church_n be_v visible_a in_o three_o degree_n in_o three_o several_a sort_n of_o person_n 1._o it_o be_v visible_a in_o the_o low_a degree_n among_o the_o papist_n themselves_z not_o as_o papist_n but_o as_o christian_n for_o they_o never_o do_v to_o this_o day_n deny_v the_o scripture_n nor_o the_o ancient_a creed_n nor_o baptism_n the_o lord_n supper_n nor_o any_o of_o the_o substance_n of_o our_o positive_a article_n of_o religion_n they_o add_v a_o new_a religion_n and_o church_n of_o their_o own_o but_o still_o profess_v to_o hold_v all_o the_o old_a in_o consistency_n with_o it_o wherever_o the_o truth_n of_o holy_a scripture_n and_o the_o ancient_a creed_n of_o the_o church_n be_v profess_v there_o be_v our_o religion_n before_o luther_n but_o even_o among_o the_o papist_n the_o holy_a scripture_n and_o the_o say_a creed_n be_v visible_o profess_v therefore_o among_o they_o be_v our_o religion_n and_o note_v here_o that_o popery_n itself_o be_v not_o ripe_a for_o a_o corruption_n of_o the_o christian_a faith_n profess_v till_o luther_n opposition_n heighten_v they_o for_o the_o scripture_n be_v frequent_o before_o by_o papist_n hold_v to_o be_v a_o most_o sufficient_a rule_n of_o faith_n as_o i_o show_v before_o from_o the_o council_n of_o basil_n and_o consequent_o tradition_n be_v only_o plead_v as_o conservatory_n and_o expository_n of_o the_o scripture_n but_o now_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n have_v in_o a_o sort_n equal_v they_o and_o this_o they_o be_v late_o drive_v to_o when_o they_o find_v that_o out_o of_o scripture_n they_o be_v unable_a to_o confute_v or_o suppress_v the_o truth_n 2._o at_o the_o same_o time_n of_o the_o church_n oppression_n by_o the_o papacy_n our_o religion_n be_v visible_a and_o so_o our_o church_n in_o a_o more_o illustrious_a sort_n among_o the_o christian_n of_o the_o most_o of_o the_o world_n greek_n ethiopian_n and_o the_o rest_n that_o never_o be_v subject_n to_o the_o usurpation_n of_o rome_n but_o only_o many_o of_o they_o take_v he_o for_o the_o patriarch_n primae_fw-la sedis_fw-la but_o not_o episcopus_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la catholicae_fw-la or_o the_o governor_n of_o the_o universal_a church_n so_o that_o here_o be_v a_o visibility_n of_o our_o church_n double_o more_o eminent_a then_o among_o the_o romanist_n 1._o in_o that_o it_o be_v the_o far_o great_a part_n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n that_o thus_o hold_v our_o religion_n to_o who_o the_o papist_n be_v then_o but_o few_o 2._o in_o that_o they_o do_v not_o only_o hold_v the_o same_o positive_a article_n of_o faith_n with_o we_o but_o also_o among_o their_o rejection_n
to_o penitence_n that_o have_v find_v by_o experience_n that_o when_o he_o come_v there_o he_o be_v naught_o with_o they_o himself_o or_o whether_o a_o man_n may_v lawful_o lie_v and_o calumniate_v to_o put_v by_o a_o calumny_n or_o speak_v false_o with_o mental_a reservation_n or_o forbear_v love_a god_n many_o year_n together_o if_o not_o all_o his_o life_n be_v these_o point_v no_o whit_n material_a you_o know_v that_o one_o part_n of_o you_o with_o a_o pope_n and_o general_n council_n be_v for_o depose_v heretical_a king_n and_o murder_v and_o stab_v they_o and_o other_o of_o you_o disavow_v it_o be_v this_o no_o whit_n material_a and_o yet_o you_o be_v all_o of_o one_o church_n and_o religion_n a_o hundred_o more_o of_o your_o difference_n i_o can_v name_v argum._n 4._o from_o instance_n of_o the_o father_n that_o have_v err_v in_o material_a point_n and_o yet_o be_v take_v to_o be_v of_o the_o same_o church_n and_o religion_n how_o many_o church_n differ_v about_o easter_n day_n what_o abundance_n of_o error_n be_v in_o your_o clementine_n and_o other_o such_o writer_n own_v by_o you_o justin_n martyr_n be_v a_o millenarie_a number_v divers_a infidel_n with_o christian_n think_v that_o angel_n live_v by_o meat_n and_o generate_v with_o devil_n etc._n etc._n athenagoras_n think_v that_o second_o marriage_n be_v comely_a adultery_n and_o that_o the_o angel_n fall_v by_o the_o love_n of_o woman_n and_o beget_v giant_n of_o they_o etc._n etc._n irenaeus_n have_v the_o like_a theophilus_n antioch_n worse_o tertullian_n and_o orrigen_n you_o will_v confess_v have_v yet_o worse_o clem._n alexand._n be_v for_o the_o salvation_n of_o infidel_n and_o heathen_n against_o swear_v and_o many_o such_o beside_o those_o before_o mention_v greg._n thaumaturgus_n have_v divers_a if_o the_o confession_n and_o other_o work_v be_v his_o that_o be_v ascribe_v to_o he_o cyprian_a firmilian_a and_o the_o whole_a council_n at_o carthage_n be_v for_o rebaptise_v those_o baptize_v by_o heretic_n against_o all_o war_n and_o oath_n lactantius_n with_o many_o more_o be_v a_o millenary_a and_o have_v too_o many_o great_a error_n i_o have_v no_o delight_n to_o rake_v into_o their_o fault_n but_o if_o it_o be_v necessary_a i_o shall_v quick_o prove_v many_o and_o great_a error_n by_o forty_o more_o of_o they_o at_o the_o least_o and_o yet_o all_o these_o or_o most_o be_v confess_v by_o you_o to_o be_v of_o one_o church_n and_o religion_n argum._n 5._o from_o your_o own_o confession_n bellarmine_n lib._n 1._o de_fw-fr beat._n ss_z cap._n 6._o faith_n that_o he_o see_v not_o how_o the_o sentence_n of_o justin_n irenaeus_n etc._n etc._n can_v be_v defend_v from_o error_n of_o tertullian_n he_o say_v there_o be_v no_o trust_n to_o be_v give_v to_o he_o lib._n 4._o de_fw-fr rom._n pont._n c._n 8._o eusebius_n he_o say_v be_v addict_v to_o the_o heretic_n cyprian_n he_o say_v do_v seem_v to_o sin_v mortal_o de_fw-fr rom._n pont._n lib._n 4._o cap_n 7._o augustine_n be_v accuse_v by_o many_o jesuit_n for_o go_v too_o far_o from_o pelagius_n hierom_n be_v oft_o pluck_v by_o you_o and_o so_o be_v many_o more_o of_o the_o father_n and_o yet_o you_o confess_v some_o of_o they_o at_o least_o be_v of_o the_o true_a church_n and_o religion_n argum._n 6._o if_o there_o be_v no_o perfect_a concord_n to_o be_v expect_v till_o we_o come_v to_o the_o place_n of_o perfect_a knowledge_n and_o happiness_n than_o it_o be_v not_o perfect_a concord_n that_o be_v necessary_a to_o prove_v we_o of_o the_o same_o church_n or_o religion_n but_o the_o antecedent_n be_v alas_o too_o far_o past_a doubt_n therefore_o etc._n etc._n argum._n 7._o if_o the_o godly_a and_o learned_a doctor_n of_o the_o church_n and_o all_o man_n have_v some_o alas_o how_o many_o culpable_a error_n in_o matter_n of_o religion_n yea_o of_o faith_n if_o you_o call_v that_o de_fw-fr fide_fw-la which_o we_o be_v oblige_v to_o believe_v then_o those_o that_o have_v such_o error_n may_v be_v of_o the_o same_o church_n and_o religion_n but_o the_o antecedent_n be_v so_o true_a and_o evident_a that_o i_o think_v none_o but_o a_o blind_a proud_a pharisee_n will_v deny_v himself_o to_o beg_v of_o god_n daily_o to_o pardon_v and_o heal_v his_o culpable_a error_n so_o much_o to_o prove_v that_o man_n of_o error_n and_o differ_a mind_n if_o not_o about_o the_o essence_n of_o the_o church_n may_v be_v of_o the_o same_o church_n 2._o but_o why_o be_v it_o that_o they_o must_v all_o need_v explicit_o hold_v the_o thirty_o nine_o article_n 1._o i_o pray_v you_o tell_v we_o whether_o all_o your_o own_o church_n do_v explicit_o hold_v and_o believe_v all_o your_o article_n that_o be_v all_o that_o pope_n and_o general_a council_n have_v define_v or_o declare_v dare_v you_o say_v that_o one_o of_o five_o hundred_o of_o five_o thousand_o do_v explicit_o believe_v all_o this_o and_o why_o then_o be_v it_o necessary_a in_o our_o case_n that_o all_o must_v explicit_o believe_v all_o those_o article_n 2._o yea_o with_o we_o it_o be_v far_o more_o unnecessary_a for_o we_o take_v not_o those_o article_n for_o the_o rule_n of_o our_o faith_n but_o only_o the_o holy_a scripture_n and_o therefore_o you_o may_v as_o well_o tell_v we_o that_o no_o man_n be_v of_o our_o religion_n that_o do_v not_o write_v or_o speak_v all_o the_o same_o word_n that_o jewel_n reignolds_n perkins_n or_o such_o other_o have_v write_v in_o their_o whole_a work_n 3._o it_o be_v easy_a to_o prove_v for_o all_o that_o that_o the_o sense_n and_o substance_n of_o those_o article_n have_v be_v own_v by_o the_o church_n in_o all_o age_n 3._o but_o what_o if_o we_o grant_v your_o conclusion_n that_o else_o they_o can_v be_v esteem_v protestant_n what_o of_o that_o as_o if_o none_o but_o protestant_n be_v of_o the_o same_o church_n and_o religion_n with_o we_o sure_o you_o think_v we_o make_v a_o sect_n of_o ourselves_o like_o you_o and_o exclude_v all_o other_o from_o the_o church_n and_o salvation_n as_o you_o do_v the_o word_n protestant_n be_v not_o the_o first_o denomination_n of_o our_o religion_n from_o its_o essence_n for_o so_o we_o call_v ourselves_o christians_o only_a but_o it_o be_v a_o title_n that_o accidental_o accrue_v to_o our_o religion_n from_o our_o protest_v against_o your_o innovation_n and_o corruption_n and_o our_o reject_v the_o error_n contrary_a to_o our_o religion_n which_o you_o have_v introduce_v now_o those_o that_o be_v not_o involve_v in_o your_o error_n as_o our_o forefather_n be_v but_o live_v at_o a_o further_a distance_n from_o you_o may_v have_v no_o occasion_n to_o make_v such_o a_o protestation_n and_o yet_o be_v of_o the_o same_o church_n and_o religion_n as_o we_o be_v now_o to_o your_o particular_a law_n 1._o say_v h._n t._n let_v he_o not_o name_v the_o waldenses_n for_o they_o hold_v the_o real_a presence_n that_o the_o apostle_n be_v lay_v man_n that_o all_o magistrate_n fall_v from_o their_o dignity_n by_o any_o mortal_a sin_n that_o it_o be_v not_o lawful_a to_o swear_v etc._n etc._n and_o waldo_n live_v but_o in_o one_o thousand_o one_o hundred_o and_o sixty_o answ_n 1._o we_o have_v better_a assurance_n of_o the_o faith_n of_o the_o waldenses_n in_o their_o own_o publish_a confession_n then_o from_o the_o mouth_n of_o their_o adversary_n 2._o the_o lutheran_n hold_v the_o real_a presence_n and_o yet_o be_v of_o the_o same_o religion_n and_o church_n with_o we_o 3._o the_o apostle_n be_v layman_n in_o the_o jew_n account_n and_o sense_n as_o not_o be_v priest_n or_o levite_n but_o not_o in_o christian_n account_n that_o believe_v their_o mission_n and_o thus_o think_v the_o waldenses_n 4._o they_o think_v that_o magistrate_n and_o minister_n do_v by_o mortal_a sin_n forfeit_v all_o the_o right_a and_o title_n to_o their_o office_n from_o which_o themselves_o may_v have_v comfort_n and_o justification_n in_o judgement_n but_o they_o never_o think_v that_o they_o be_v not_o to_o be_v obey_v by_o other_o or_o that_o their_o action_n be_v not_o valid_a for_o the_o church_n good_a 5._o many_o of_o the_o ancient_a father_n think_v it_o unlawful_a to_o swear_v at_o all_o that_o yet_o be_v cite_v by_o you_o as_o of_o your_o church_n but_o the_o waldenses_n be_v slander_v in_o these_o point_n 6._o though_o waldo_n be_v but_o about_o one_o thousand_o one_o hundred_o and_o sixty_o yet_o the_o same_o religion_n and_o church_n under_o other_o name_n and_o before_o those_o name_n be_v fasten_v on_o they_o be_v much_o elder_a as_o raynerius_n may_v satisfy_v you_o so_o that_o for_o all_o this_o the_o waldenses_n and_o we_o be_v of_o one_o church_n and_o religion_n he_o add_v let_v he_o not_o name_v the_o hussites_n for_o they_o hold_v mass_n transubstantiation_n and_o seven_o sacrament_n that_o the_o universal_a church_n consist_v only_o of_o the_o
and_o they_o extol_v cyril_n equal_o with_o celestine_n novo_fw-la paulo_n celestine_n they_o forget_v peter_n novo_fw-la paulo_n cyrillo_n unu●_n celestinus_fw-la unus_n cyrillus_n etc._n etc._n the_o next_o witness_v bring_v be_v the_o council_n of_o chalcedon_n as_o cal_v leo_n universal_a archbishop_n and_o patriarch_n of_o old_a rome_n and_o sentence_n be_v pronounce_v against_o dioscorus_n in_o the_o name_n of_o leo_n and_o saint_n peter_n answ_n 1._o this_o be_v but_o one_o of_o your_o common_a fraud_n it_o be_v not_o the_o council_n that_o call_v he_o universal_a archbishop_n but_o two_o deacon_n in_o the_o superscription_n of_o their_o libel_n viz._n thedodorus_n and_o ischirion_n and_o be_v they_o the_o catholic_n church_n 2._o by_o universal_a archbishop_n it_o be_v plain_a that_o they_o mean_v no_o more_o than_o the_o chief_a in_o dignity_n and_o order_n of_o all_o archbishop_n and_o not_o the_o governor_n of_o all_o 3._o i_o have_v show_v you_o before_o that_o this_o very_a council_n in_o its_o canon_n not_o only_o give_v the_o bishop_n of_o constantinople_n equal_a privilege_n with_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n but_o express_o say_v that_o rome_n receive_v this_o primacy_n of_o order_n à_fw-fr patribus_fw-la from_o a_o council_n because_o it_o be_v sedes_fw-la imperii_fw-la the_o seat_n of_o the_o emperor_n i_o think_v i_o have_v give_v you_o enough_o of_o this_o council_n before_o sure_o i_o be_o when_o bellarmine_n come_v to_o this_o canon_n he_o have_v nothing_o to_o say_v for_o his_o cause_n but_o plain_o to_o charge_v this_o famous_a four_o general_n council_n with_o lie_v or_o falsehood_n and_o to_o say_v that_o the_o pope_n approve_v not_o this_o canon_n but_o approve_a or_o not_o approve_v if_o this_o be_v the_o catholic_n church_n representative_a sure_o i_o be_o that_o their_o testimony_n be_v valid_a to_o prove_v that_o there_o be_v then_o no_o catholic_n reception_n of_o the_o roman_a monarchy_n as_o of_o god_n but_o contrary_o a_o mere_a primacy_n of_o dignity_n and_o honour_n give_v it_o new_o by_o man_n in_o the_o six_o age_n he_o have_v not_o one_o council_n to_o pretend_v it_o seem_v for_o the_o roman_a sovereignty_n for_o he_o cite_v none_o but_o about_o other_o matter_n of_o which_o anon_o in_o the_o seven_o age_n which_o he_o call_v the_o six_o though_o then_o the_o sovereignty_n be_v claim_v by_o boniface_n he_o cit_v no_o council_n for_o it_o niether_o in_o the_o eight_o age_n from_o the_o year_n seven_o hundred_o he_o cite_v the_o second_o council_n of_o nice_a as_o approve_v a_o epistle_n of_o pope_n adrian_n wherein_o he_o say_v that_o the_o roman_a church_n be_v the_o head_n of_o all_o church_n answ_n 1._o but_o whether_o adrian_n himself_o by_o the_o head_n mean_v the_o chief_a in_o dignity_n or_o the_o governor_n of_o all_o be_v a_o great_a doubt_n 2._o but_o whatever_o he_o mean_v the_o synod_n approve_v his_o epistle_n for_o image_n be_v no_o proof_n that_o they_o approve_v every_o word_n in_o it_o 3._o yea_o tharasius_n seem_v to_o imply_v the_o contrary_a call_v he_o only_o veteris_fw-la romae_fw-la primas_fw-la &_o testatorum_fw-la principum_fw-la successor_n as_o if_o his_o sea_n have_v the_o privilege_n only_o of_o be_v the_o primate_n of_o rome_n and_o not_o the_o ruler_n of_o the_o world_n 4._o but_o if_o this_o council_n do_v as_o it_o do_v not_o open_o own_o the_o papal_a sovereignty_n it_o have_v be_v no_o great_a honour_n to_o he_o for_o as_o in_o their_o decree_n for_o image_n they_o contradict_v two_o council_n at_o constantinople_n and_o that_o at_o frankford_n contradict_v they_o so_o may_v they_o as_o well_o contradict_v the_o church_n in_o this_o even_o as_o they_o define_v angel_n to_o be_v corporeal_a which_o the_o council_n of_o lateran_n afterward_o contradict_v but_o the_o plain_a truth_n be_v it_o be_v the_o scope_n of_o adrian's_n epistle_n as_o for_o image_n which_o they_o express_v themselves_o to_o approve_v and_o that_o their_o image-worship_n itself_o have_v no_o catholic_n succession_n i_o think_v they_o shall_v easy_o grant_v consider_v not_o only_o 1._o that_o there_o be_v nothing_o in_o the_o first_o age_n for_o they_o 2._o and_o that_o epiphanius_n and_o many_o before_o he_o speak_v express_o against_o it_o 3._o but_o special_o that_o there_o have_v be_v more_o general_a council_n of_o those_o age_n against_o they_o then_o for_o they_o and_o that_o before_o this_o of_o nice_n decree_v for_o they_o the_o representative_a catholic_n church_n except_o still_o the_o pope_n be_v the_o catholic_n church_n do_v condemn_v they_o i_o suppose_v by_o this_o time_n you_o will_v think_v it_o needless_a for_o i_o to_o follow_v h._n t._n any_o further_a in_o his_o catalogue_n i_o be_o content_a that_o any_o impartial_a sober_a person_n judge_n whether_o here_o be_v a_o satisfactory_a proof_n of_o a_o catholic_n succession_n of_o the_o papal_a sovereignty_n when_o through_o so_o many_o age_n they_o bring_v not_o a_o word_n for_o any_o succession_n at_o all_o much_o less_o that_o it_o be_v own_v by_o the_o catholic_n church_n and_o lest_o of_o all_o that_o all_o the_o rest_n of_o popery_n be_v so_o own_v object_n but_o at_o least_o some_o other_o point_n of_o popery_n be_v prove_v by_o h._n t._n to_o have_v such_o a_o succession_n answ_n peruse_v his_o proof_n and_o free_o judge_v two_o of_o the_o thirty_o two_o article_n which_o i_o mention_v before_o he_o speak_v to_o the_o one_o be_v that_o bishop_n priest_n and_o deacon_n shall_v abstain_v from_o their_o wife_n or_o be_v degrade_v but_o 1._o the_o council_n which_o he_o cite_v for_o this_o be_v but_o a_o provincial_a council_n in_o spain_n in_o the_o five_o age_n and_o what_o be_v this_o to_o catholic_n succession_n 2._o the_o evidence_n for_o the_o antiquity_n of_o priest_n marriage_n be_v so_o clear_a and_o numerous_a that_o i_o will_v not_o thank_v any_o of_o they_o to_o confess_v their_o doctrine_n a_o novelty_n 1_o cor._n 9_o 5._o have_v we_o not_o power_n to_o lead_v about_o a_o sister_n a_o wife_n as_o well_o as_o other_o apostle_n and_o as_o the_o brethren_n of_o the_o lord_n and_o cephas_n i_o hope_v they_o will_v not_o deny_v that_o peter_n have_v a_o wife_n 1_o tim._n 3._o 2_o 4._o a_o bishop_n must_v be_v blameless_a the_o husband_n of_o one_o wife_n one_o that_o rule_v well_o his_o own_o house_n have_v his_o child_n in_o subjection_n with_o all_o gravity_n ver_fw-la 12._o let_v the_o deacon_n be_v the_o husband_n of_o one_o wife_n rule_v their_o child_n and_o their_o own_o house_n well_o tit._n 1._o 7._o if_o any_o be_v blameless_a the_o husband_n of_o one_o wife_n have_v faithful_a child_n the_o ancient_a canon_n call_v the_o apostle_n say_v can._n 6._o let_v not_o a_o bishop_n or_o presbyter_n put_v away_o his_o own_o wife_n on_o pretence_n of_o religion_n and_o if_o he_o reject_v she_o let_v he_o be_v excommunicate_v but_o if_o he_o persevere_v let_v he_o be_v depose_v let_v bellarmine_n persuade_v those_o that_o will_v believe_v he_o that_o this_o canon_n speak_v but_o of_o deny_v they_o maintenance_n canon_n as_o well_o as_o scripture_n be_v unintelligible_a to_o these_o man_n the_o canon_n at_o trull_n of_o the_o five_o and_o six_o council_n do_v express_o expound_v this_o apostolic_a canon_n as_o i_o do_v here_o and_o they_o profess_v it_o be_v the_o apostle_n concession_n then_o to_o the_o bishop_n to_o marry_v and_o they_o themselves_o forbid_v any_o to_o separate_v priest_n from_o their_o wife_n and_o profess_o oppose_v the_o roman_a church_n in_o it_o can._n 12_o 13._o for_o this_o bellarmine_n lib._n 2._o cap._n 27._o de_fw-fr pontif._n rom._n reproach_v they_o and_o that_o be_v his_o answer_n forsooth_o the_o pope_n approve_v not_o these_o canon_n 1._o let_v adrian's_n word_n be_v read_v and_o then_o judge_v 2._o what_o if_o he_o do_v not_o our_o enquiry_n be_v of_o catholic_n tradition_n and_o succession_n and_o not_o of_o the_o pope_n opinion_n but_o it_o be_v easy_a to_o bring_v much_o more_o for_o this_o another_o point_n that_o h._n t._n prove_v be_v the_o same_o canon_n of_o scripture_n which_o they_o own_o and_o for_o this_o he_o bring_v one_o provincial_a council_n carth._n 3._o as_o in_o the_o six_o age._n a_o excellent_a proof_n of_o catholic_n succession_n through_o all_o age_n but_o have_v we_o not_o better_a proof_n of_o the_o contrary_a let_v he_o that_o will_v be_v satisfy_v peruse_v these_o record_n and_o judge_n euseb_n eccles_n hist_o l._n 3._o cap._n 9_o vel_fw-la 10._o and_o there_o joseph_n li._n 1._o cont_n apion_n constitut_n apostol_n whosoever_o be_v the_o author_n lib._n 2._o cap._n 57_o canon_n apostult_v diony_n eccl._n hier._n cap._n 3._o melet._n in_o euseb_n eccl._n histor_n lib._n 5._o cap._n 24._o origen_n in_o niceph._n hiss_v eccles_n lib._n 5._o cap._n 16._o orig._n philocal_a cap._n 3._o euseb_n hist_o l._n 6._o cap._n
mean_v the_o lion_n that_o die_v in_o the_o defence_n of_o thecla_n and_o in_o that_o place_n thecla_n be_v bring_v as_o call_v death_n a_o baptism_n however_o that_o word_n which_o may_v easy_o be_v mistake_v be_v no_o great_a disproof_n that_o this_o be_v the_o same_o story_n and_o for_o the_o father_n testimony_n as_o we_o believe_v that_o a_o famous_a martyr_n call_v thecla_n there_o be_v from_o whence_o the_o occasion_n of_o the_o story_n rise_v so_o it_o do_v but_o show_v how_o unfit_a the_o father_n be_v to_o be_v the_o author_n of_o our_o faith_n or_o to_o be_v esteem_v infallible_a that_o so_o easy_o believe_v and_o recite_v the_o forge_a story_n of_o a_o asiatic_a presbyter_n even_o when_o tertullian_n have_v before_o reveal_v the_o deceit_n but_o if_o real_o this_o book_n be_v write_v by_o basil_n of_o seleucia_n and_o be_v not_o spurious_a than_o we_o yet_o further_o see_v that_o they_o that_o rest_v upon_o the_o holy_a scripture_n alone_o for_o the_o matter_n of_o their_o faith_n do_v take_v a_o sure_a wise_a way_n than_o they_o that_o build_v all_o on_o the_o credit_n of_o such_o credulous_a imprudent_a fabulous_a father_n as_o this_o author_n be_v by_o this_o little_a taste_n you_o may_v see_v how_o their_o record_n and_o testimony_n from_o antiquity_n be_v to_o be_v trust_v even_o as_o zosimus_n report_n of_o the_o nicene_n canon_n to_o the_o african_a council_n be_v who_o prove_v it_o a_o forgery_n and_o so_o reject_v it_o when_o the_o write_n be_v only_o in_o their_o keep_n and_o their_o interest_n call_v they_o to_o deprave_v they_o they_o be_v little_a to_o be_v trust_v who_o dare_v venture_v to_o corrupt_v those_o that_o be_v in_o the_o hand_n of_o the_o christian_a world_n chap._n xxviii_o detect_v 19_o another_o of_o the_o popish_a device_n be_v when_o they_o have_v lay_v their_o own_o cause_n upon_o so_o many_o forgery_n and_o uphold_v it_o by_o so_o many_o false_a report_n to_o make_v the_o people_n believe_v that_o it_o be_v we_o that_o be_v the_o liar_n and_o that_o we_o be_v not_o to_o be_v believe_v in_o any_o thing_n that_o we_o say_v of_o they_o and_o that_o we_o misreport_v the_o father_n belie_v the_o roman_a catholic_n and_o therefore_o no_o man_n shall_v read_v our_o book_n or_o discourse_n with_o we_o so_o as_o to_o afford_v we_o any_o credence_n so_o that_o indeed_o they_o get_v as_o much_o by_o mere_a persuade_v the_o people_n that_o we_o be_v liar_n as_o by_o any_o way_n that_o i_o know_v we_o can_v tell_v they_o what_o be_v in_o their_o own_o writer_n but_o the_o ignorant_a people_n be_v common_o teach_v to_o say_v we_o slander_v they_o though_o we_o cite_v the_o book_n and_o page_n and_o line_n and_o tell_v they_o that_o they_o be_v print_v at_o rome_n or_o colen_n or_o antwerp_n or_o paris_n by_o man_n of_o their_o own_o profession_n yet_o they_o believe_v we_o not_o for_o they_o be_v instruct_v to_o hold_v we_o for_o liar_n that_o we_o may_v be_v uncapable_a of_o do_v they_o good_a if_o we_o cite_v any_o of_o the_o father_n they_o tell_v we_o that_o we_o misalledge_v they_o or_o have_v corrupt_v they_o or_o they_o say_v no_o such_o thing_n if_o we_o show_v they_o the_o book_n publish_v by_o their_o own_o doctor_n and_o license_v by_o their_o superior_n and_o print_v by_o papist_n yet_o they_o will_v not_o believe_v we_o and_o so_o they_o be_v teach_v the_o easy_a way_n in_o the_o world_n to_o repel_v the_o truth_n and_o confute_v those_o that_o will_v do_v they_o good_a it_o be_v no_o more_o but_o say_v you_o lie_v and_o all_o be_v do_v in_o such_o a_o case_n as_o this_o what_o be_v there_o to_o be_v do_v ignorance_n and_o incredulity_n thus_o purposely_o conjoin_v be_v the_o wall_n of_o brass_n that_o be_v oppose_v to_o our_o endeavour_n to_o what_o purpose_n shall_v we_o speak_v to_o they_o that_o will_v not_o hear_v in_o such_o a_o case_n i_o know_v but_o one_o of_o these_o two_o way_n 1._o to_o endeavour_v to_o revive_v the_o stupefy_v humanity_n and_o reason_n of_o these_o man_n and_o ask_v they_o be_v religion_n the_o work_n of_o a_o man_n or_o of_o a_o beast_n of_o a_o wise_a man_n or_o of_o a_o mad_a man_n be_v it_o a_o reasonable_a or_o a_o unreasonable_a course_n if_o it_o be_v reasonable_a why_o then_o will_v you_o go_v without_o reason_n upon_o other_o man_n bare_a word_n but_o if_o you_o be_v so_o little_a man_n as_o to_o venture_v your_o soul_n without_o reason_n i_o think_v you_o shall_v not_o venture_v against_o it_o will_v you_o rest_v on_o the_o bare_a word_n of_o one_o of_o these_o man_n if_o it_o go_v against_o reason_n if_o so_o than_o you_o renounce_v your_o manhood_n but_o suppose_v you_o will_v be_v so_o unreasonable_a yet_o i_o hope_v you_o have_v your_o five_o sense_n still_o what_o if_o a_o priest_n shall_v tell_v you_o that_o the_o crow_n be_v white_a and_o the_o snow_n be_v black_a or_o that_o you_o see_v not_o when_o you_o know_v you_o see_v will_v you_o believe_v he_o if_o you_o will_v believe_v they_o before_o your_o eye_n and_o taste_v and_o feeling_n than_o i_o have_v do_v with_o you_o who_o can_v dispute_v with_o stock_n and_o stone_n or_o man_n so_o far_o forsake_v of_o god_n as_o to_o renounce_v all_o their_o sense_n but_o if_o you_o will_v not_o believe_v a_o priest_n against_o your_o eye_n and_o other_o sense_n then_o why_o do_v you_o believe_v he_o that_o bread_n be_v not_o bread_n and_o wine_n be_v not_o wine_n when_o the_o eye_n and_o smell_v and_o taste_v of_o all_o man_n say_v it_o be_v and_o if_o your_o sense_n tell_v you_o that_o your_o priest_n deceive_v you_o in_o one_o thing_n i_o think_v you_o shall_v not_o be_v so_o confident_a of_o they_o in_o other_o thing_n as_o to_o believe_v and_o hearken_v to_o none_o but_o they_o 2._o if_o this_o will_v not_o serve_v try_v whether_o you_o can_v procure_v their_o priest_n to_o discuss_v those_o point_n before_o the_o incredulous_a people_n that_o so_o they_o may_v hear_v both_o side_n speak_v together_o get_v a_o conference_n between_o they_o and_o some_o experience_a judicious_a divine_a but_o this_o will_v hardly_o be_v obtain_v for_o if_o it_o be_v to_o dispute_v with_o one_o that_o be_v able_a they_o will_v present_o pretend_v a_o danger_n of_o persecution_n and_o no_o promise_n of_o security_n will_v satisfy_v they_o but_o if_o it_o be_v a_o weak_a unexperienced_a man_n that_o challenge_v they_o than_o they_o will_v venture_v and_o take_v the_o advantage_n if_o nothing_o else_o can_v be_v do_v it_o be_v the_o best_a way_n to_o offer_v they_o some_o small_a book_n against_o popery_n to_o read_v if_o they_o be_v so_o captivate_v that_o they_o will_v neither_o hear_v nor_o read_v and_o their_o leader_n will_v not_o be_v draw_v to_o a_o dispute_n i_o know_v not_o what_o to_o do_v but_o leave_v they_o and_o let_v they_o take_v what_o they_o get_v by_o their_o unreasonable_a obstinacy_n they_o be_v unworthy_a of_o truth_n that_o set_v no_o more_o by_o it_o chap._n xxix_o detect_v 20._o a_o nother_n of_o their_o deceit_n be_v by_o pretend_a miracle_n if_o they_o do_v but_o hear_v of_o a_o wench_n that_o have_v the_o strangulatus_fw-la uteri_fw-la or_o furor_fw-la uterinus_fw-la or_o such_o hysterical_a passion_n in_o any_o violent_a degree_n they_o present_o go_v to_o cast_v the_o devil_n out_o of_o she_o that_o so_o they_o may_v make_v delude_v people_n think_v that_o they_o have_v wrought_v a_o miracle_n and_o usual_o the_o country_n people_n and_o perhaps_o the_o disease_a woman_n herself_o may_v be_v so_o much_o unacquainted_a with_o the_o disease_n as_o very_o to_o believe_v the_o priest_n that_o they_o have_v a_o devil_n indeed_o and_o so_o turn_v papist_n when_o the_o cure_n be_v wrought_v as_o think_v it_o be_v do_v by_o the_o finger_n of_o god_n the_o nature_n of_o this_o disease_n be_v to_o cause_v such_o strange_a symptom_n that_o most_o ignorant_a people_n that_o see_v they_o do_v think_v that_o the_o person_n be_v either_o bewitch_v or_o have_v a_o devil_n at_o this_o very_a time_n while_o i_o be_o write_v this_o i_o be_o put_v to_o dissuade_v a_o man_n from_o accuse_v one_o of_o his_o neighbour_n of_o witchcraft_n because_o his_o daughter_n have_v this_o disease_n and_o cry_v out_o of_o she_o lest_o the_o papist_n get_v further_o advantage_n by_o this_o ignorance_n of_o the_o people_n i_o shall_v acquaint_v they_o brief_o with_o some_o of_o the_o symptom_n of_o this_o disease_n it_o usual_o seize_v upon_o young_a woman_n between_o the_o age_n of_o seventeen_o and_o thirty_o two_o year_n and_o most_o common_o on_o those_o that_o be_v of_o a_o sound_a complexion_n somewhat_o sanguine_a or_o at_o least_o fleshly_a and_o strong_a and_o but_o seldom_o on_o the_o weak_a sort_n in_o this_o
licence_n they_o converse_v and_o be_v send_v to_o preach_v they_o go_v to_o play_v the_o whoremonger_n and_o that_o there_o be_v scarce_o any_o one_o of_o the_o holy_a nun_n without_o her_o carnal_a male_a devotary_n by_o which_o they_o break_v their_o first_o faith_n with_o christ_n etc._n etc._n this_o be_v your_o holy_a church_n and_o li._n 2._o art_n 28._o he_o say_v that_o most_o of_o the_o clergy_n mix_v themselves_o with_o gluttony_n drunkenness_n and_o whoredom_n which_o be_v their_o common_a vice_n and_o most_o of_o they_o give_v themselves_o to_o the_o unnatural_a vice_n sodomy_n thus_o continual_o yea_o and_o public_o do_v they_o offend_v against_o that_o holy_a chastity_n which_o they_o promise_v to_o the_o lord_n beside_o those_o evil_n not_o to_o be_v name_v which_o in_o secret_a they_o commit_v which_o paper_n will_v not_o receive_v nor_o pen_n can_v write_v abundance_n more_o he_o have_v of_o the_o same_o subject_n and_o their_o put_v their_o choice_a youth_n into_o house_n of_o sodomy_n this_o book_n of_o alvarus_n pelagius_n bellarmine_n call_v libre_fw-la insignis_fw-la de_fw-la scriptor_n ecclesiast_n math._n paris_n in_o henr._n 3._o p._n 819._o tell_v we_o of_o cardinal_n hugo_n farewell_o speech_n to_o the_o people_n of_o lons_n when_o he_o depart_v with_o the_o pope_n court_n friend_n say_v he_o since_o we_o come_v to_o this_o city_n we_o have_v bring_v you_o great_a commodity_n and_o alm_n when_o we_o come_v hither_o we_o find_v three_o or_o four_o whore_n house_n but_o now_o at_o our_o departure_n we_o leave_v but_o one_o but_o that_o one_o reach_v from_o the_o east_n gate_n to_o the_o west_n gate_n o_o holy_a pope_n and_o holy_a church_n but_o costerus_n the_o jesuit_n easy_o answer_v all_o that_o i_o have_v say_v enchirid._n cap._n 2._o de_fw-fr eccles_n that_o the_o church_n lose_v not_o the_o name_n holy_a as_o long_a as_o there_o be_v but_o one_o that_o be_v true_o holy_a answ_n be_v this_o your_o sanctity_n i_o deny_v your_o conclusion_n for_o 1._o if_o the_o head_n be_v unholy_a a_o essential_a part_n be_v unholy_a and_o therefore_o the_o church_n can_v be_v holy_a 2._o one_o person_n be_v not_o the_o matter_n of_o the_o church_n as_o one_o drop_n of_o wine_n cast_v into_o the_o sea_n do_v not_o make_v it_o a_o sea_n of_o wine_n and_o one_o italian_a in_o england_n make_v not_o england_n italian_n nor_o one_o learned_a man_n make_v england_n learned_a and_o let_v the_o papist_n observe_v that_o it_o be_v from_o the_o very_a word_n of_o their_o own_o that_o i_o have_v speak_v of_o they_o what_o be_v here_o recite_v and_o not_o from_o their_o adversary_n and_o therefore_o i_o shall_v be_v so_o far_o from_o believe_v the_o gospel_n upon_o the_o account_n that_o their_o church_n be_v holy_a that_o recommend_v it_o or_o from_o believe_v they_o to_o be_v the_o only_a church_n of_o christ_n because_o of_o their_o holiness_n that_o i_o must_v bless_v god_n that_o i_o live_v in_o a_o sweet_a air_n and_o clean_a society_n and_o shall_v be_v loath_a to_o come_v out_o of_o the_o garden_n into_o the_o channel_n or_o sink_v to_o be_v make_v clean_a or_o sweet_a but_o say_v that_o the_o travall_a learn_v more_o wit_n that_o leave_v we_o this_o resolution_n roma_n vale_n vidi_fw-la satis_fw-la est_fw-la vidisse_fw-la revertar_fw-la cum_fw-la leno_fw-la aut_fw-la meretrix_n scurra_fw-la cinadus_fw-la ero_fw-la 2_o the_o second_o proof_n which_o they_o bring_v of_o the_o holiness_n of_o their_o church_n be_v the_o strict_a life_n of_o their_o friar_n as_o carthusian_n franciscan_n and_o other_o answ_n have_v be_v so_o long_o already_o on_o this_o point_n i_o will_v be_v but_o short_a on_o this_o branch_n in_o a_o word_n 1._o i_o have_v no_o mind_n to_o deny_v the_o grace_n of_o the_o spirit_n in_o any_o that_o have_v they_o though_o traveller_n tell_v i_o lamentable_a story_n of_o your_o friar_n &_o guil._n de_fw-fr amore_n and_o his_o companion_n say_v much_o more_o and_o many_o other_o popish_a writer_n paint_v they_o out_o in_o a_o odious_a garb_n yet_o i_o do_v not_o doubt_v but_o god_n have_v his_o servant_n among_o they_o 2._o but_o i_o must_v tell_v you_o that_o this_o also_o show_v the_o pollution_n of_o your_o church_n in_o comparison_n of_o our_o church_n that_o holiness_n and_o religion_n be_v such_o rarity_n and_o next_o to_o miracle_n among_o you_o that_o it_o must_v be_v cloister_v up_o or_o confine_v to_o certain_a order_n that_o be_v proper_o call_v religious_a as_o if_o the_o people_n have_v no_o religiousness_n or_o holiness_n when_o our_o care_n and_o hope_n be_v to_o make_v all_o our_o parish_n church_n far_o more_o religious_a and_o holy_a then_o your_o monastery_n or_o convent_v yea_o be_v not_o this_o church_n much_o more_o religious_a and_o holy_a where_o i_o live_v i_o think_v i_o shall_v have_v small_a comfort_n in_o it_o 3._o their_o three_o proof_n of_o the_o holiness_n of_o their_o church_n be_v their_o unmarried_a clergy_n answ_n 1._o i_o will_v not_o stir_v too_o long_o in_o this_o puddle_n or_o else_o i_o can_v tell_v you_o out_o of_o your_o own_o writer_n of_o the_o odious_a fruit_n of_o your_o unmarried_a clergy_n only_o because_o the_o essential_a part_n of_o your_o church_n be_v they_o that_o neerlie_v concern_v your_o cause_n i_o will_v ask_v you_o in_o brief_a whether_o it_o be_v not_o pope_n john_n the_o eleven_o that_o have_v theodora_n for_o his_o whore_n whether_o it_o be_v no_o pope_n sergius_n the_o three_o that_o beget_v pope_n john_n the_o twelve_o of_o marosia_n whether_o john_n the_o twelve_o alias_o the_o thirteen_o say_v luitprandus_fw-la and_o other_o of_o your_o own_o do_v not_o ravish_v maid_n and_o wife_n at_o the_o apostolic_a door_n and_o at_o last_o be_v kill_v in_o the_o act_n of_o adultery_n whether_o it_o be_v not_o pope_n innocent_a of_o who_o a_o papist_n write_v this_o distich_n octo_fw-la nocens_fw-la pueros_fw-la genuit_fw-la totidemque_fw-la puellas_fw-la hunc_fw-la merito_fw-la potuit_fw-la dicere_fw-la roma_fw-la patrem_fw-la and_o who_o son_n be_v aloisus_fw-la make_v prince_n of_o parma_n by_o pope_n paul_n the_o three_o and_o for_o your_o arch_a bishop_n bishop_n priest_n etc._n etc._n i_o shall_v now_o add_v but_o the_o word_n of_o your_o dominicus_n soto_n de_fw-fr instit_n &_o jure_fw-la qu._n 6._o art_n 1._o cite_v by_o rivet_n we_o do_v not_o deny_v say_v he_o that_o in_o the_o clergy_n such_o as_o keep_v concubine_n and_o be_v adulterer_n be_v frequent_a 2._o we_o have_v many_o that_o live_v unmarried_a as_o well_o as_o you_o but_o not_o on_o your_o term_n 3._o we_o know_v that_o paul_n direct_v timothy_n and_o titus_n to_o ordain_v he_o a_o bishop_n that_o be_v the_o husband_n of_o one_o wife_n and_o rule_v well_o his_o house_n have_v his_o child_n in_o subjection_n and_o that_o the_o church_n a_o long_a time_n hold_v to_o this_o doctrine_n and_o that_o greg._n nyssen_n be_v a_o marry_a bishop_n but_o if_o you_o be_v wise_a than_o the_o spirit_n of_o god_n or_o can_v change_v his_o law_n or_o can_v prove_v the_o holy_a ghost_n so_o mutable_a as_o to_o give_v one_o law_n by_o paul_n and_o other_o apostle_n and_o another_o by_o the_o pope_n we_o will_v believe_v you_o and_o forsake_v the_o scripture_n when_o you_o can_v so_o far_o bewitch_v we_o and_o charm_v we_o to_o it_o we_o believe_v that_o a_o single_a life_n be_v of_o very_o great_a convenience_n to_o a_o pastor_n when_o it_o can_v be_v hold_v and_o that_o christ_n rule_n must_v be_v observe_v every_n man_n can_v receive_v this_o say_n but_o he_o that_o can_v let_v he_o receive_v it_o and_o whether_o minister_n be_v marry_v or_o not_o marry_v as_o many_o now_o live_v in_o the_o next_o parish_n to_o i_o be_v not_o no_o more_o than_o myself_o it_o be_v a_o strange_a thing_n with_o we_o to_o hear_v of_o one_o in_o many_o county_n that_o be_v ever_o once_o guilty_a of_o fornication_n in_o his_o life_n and_o if_o any_o one_o be_v but_o once_o guilty_a in_o the_o ministry_n he_o be_v cast_v out_o though_o he_o shall_v be_v never_o so_o penitent_a as_o any_o man_n that_o read_v the_o act_n for_o eject_v scandalous_a minister_n and_o schoolmaster_n may_v see_v as_o also_o you_o may_v there_o see_v that_o if_o he_o be_v but_o once_o drink_v if_o he_o swear_v curse_n or_o be_v guilty_a of_o other_o scandalous_a sin_n he_o be_v cast_v out_o without_o any_o more_o ado_n and_o none_o be_v so_o earnest_a for_o the_o through_o execution_n of_o this_o law_n as_o the_o minister_n if_o a_o minister_n do_v but_o go_v into_o a_o alehouse_n except_o to_o visit_v the_o sick_a or_o on_o weighty_a business_n it_o be_v a_o scandalous_a thing_n among_o we_o we_o do_v not_o teach_v as_o the_o jesuit_n cite_v by_o the_o jansenist_n montaltus_n that_o a_o man_n may_v lawful_o go_v into_o a_o
of_o necessity_n to_o salvation_n or_o not_o i_o before_o cite_v the_o word_n of_o albertinus_n the_o jesuit_n i_o shall_v now_o give_v you_o many_o more_o and_o more_o full_o which_o frans_n à_fw-la sancta_fw-la clara_n have_v gather_v to_o my_o hand_n in_o his_o deus_fw-la natura_fw-la gratia_n problem_n 15._o &_o 16._o pag._n 109_o etc._n etc._n and_o 1._o pag._n 110._o he_o tell_v we_o himself_o that_o the_o doctor_n common_o teach_v that_o a_o just_a and_o probable_a ignorance_n ought_v to_o excuse_v and_o that_o it_o be_v probable_a when_o one_o have_v a_o probable_a foundation_n or_o ground_n as_o a_o countryman_n when_o he_o believe_v that_o a_o thing_n be_v lawful_a draw_v by_o the_o testimony_n of_o his_o parish_n priest_n or_o parent_n or_o when_o a_o man_n see_v reason_n that_o be_v probable_a on_o both_o side_n do_v choose_v those_o which_o seem_v to_o he_o the_o more_o probable_a which_o yet_o indeed_o be_v against_o the_o truth_n to_o which_o he_o be_v otherwise_o well_o affect_v in_o this_o case_n he_o err_v without_o fault_n though_o he_o err_v against_o the_o truth_n and_o so_o labour_v of_o the_o contrary_a ignorance_n hither_o be_v it_o to_o be_v reduce_v when_o the_o article_n of_o faith_n be_v not_o propound_v in_o a_o due_a manner_n as_o by_o frivolous_a reason_n or_o by_o impious_a man_n for_o then_o to_o believe_v be_v a_o act_n of_o imprudence_n say_v aquin._n 2._o 2._o q._n 1._o be_v 4._o so_o that_o if_o the_o truth_n of_o scripture_n be_v so_o propound_v as_o to_o seem_v most_o improbable_a it_o be_v no_o sin_n to_o disbelieve_v it_o and_o if_o such_o be_v excuse_v as_o by_o a_o parent_n or_o parish-priest_n be_v seduce_v and_o that_o have_v not_o a_o due_a proposal_n of_o the_o truth_n than_o it_o must_v follow_v that_o the_o heathen_n and_o infidel_n be_v innocent_a that_o never_o have_v christ_n propose_v any_o way_n to_o they_o and_o by_o their_o parent_n have_v be_v teach_v mahometanism_n or_o paganism_n but_o what_o if_o i_o can_v prove_v that_o even_o the_o want_n of_o a_o due_a proposal_n be_v a_o punishment_n for_o their_o sin_n and_o that_o they_o ought_v themselves_o to_o seek_v after_o the_o truth_n and_o that_o it_o be_v long_o of_o their_o own_o sin_n that_o necessary_a truth_n do_v seem_v improbable_a to_o they_o will_v sin_n excuse_v sin_n and_o pag._n 111._o he_o tell_v we_o that_o as_o to_o the_o ignorance_n of_o thing_n necessary_a as_o mean_n to_o salvation_n the_o doctor_n differ_v for_o soto_n 4._o d._n 5._o q._n 5._o &_o l._n denatur_fw-la &_o great_a c._n 12._o and_o vega_n l_o 6._o c._n 20._o sup_n trid._n will_v have_v no_o more_o explicit_a faith_n require_v now_o in_o the_o law_n of_o grace_n then_o in_o the_o law_n of_o nature_n yea_o vega_n loco_fw-la citato_fw-la and_o gab._n 2._o d._n 21._o qu._n 2._o art_n 3._o &_o 3._o d._n 21._o qu._n 3._o think_v that_o in_o the_o law_n of_o nature_n and_o in_o case_n in_o the_o law_n of_o grace_n a_o man_n may_v be_v save_v with_o only_a natural_a knowledge_n and_o that_o the_o habit_n of_o faith_n be_v not_o require_v and_o horantius_fw-la be_v of_o the_o contrary_a opinion_n say_v that_o they_o be_v man_n of_o great_a name_n that_o be_v against_o he_o who_o gravity_n and_o great_a and_o painful_a study_n move_v he_o not_o to_o condemn_v they_o of_o heresy_n in_o a_o doubtful_a matter_n not_o yet_o judge_v o_o happy_a rome_n that_o have_v a_o judge_n that_o can_v put_v a_o end_n to_o all_o their_o controversy_n and_o yet_o can_v determine_v whether_o it_o be_v necessary_a to_o salvation_n to_o be_v a_o christian_a yea_o say_v s._n clara_n alvarez_n the_o auxil_n disp_n 56._o with_o other_o seem_v to_o hold_v that_o to_o justification_n be_v not_o require_v the_o knowledge_n of_o a_o supernatural_a object_n at_o all_o other_o say_v that_o both_o to_o grace_n and_o to_o glory_n a_o explicit_a faith_n in_o christ_n be_v necessary_a as_o bonavent_n 3._o d._n 25._o and_o other_o other_o say_v that_o to_o salvation_n at_o least_o a_o explicit_a faith_n in_o the_o gospel_n or_o christ_n be_v require_v though_o not_o to_o grace_n or_o justification_n and_o this_o be_v the_o commoner_n in_o the_o school_n as_o herera_n declare_v and_o follow_v it_o and_o for_o scotus_n s._n clara_n say_v i_o take_v he_o to_o be_v of_o that_o opinion_n that_o be_v not_o necessary_a as_o a_o mean_n to_o grace_n or_o glory_n to_o have_v a_o explicit_a belief_n of_o christ_n or_o the_o gospel_n ut_fw-la 4._o d._n 3._o q._n 4._o he_o seem_v at_o large_a to_o prove_v pag._n 113._o he_o add_v what_o be_v clear_a then_o that_o at_o this_o day_n the_o gospel_n bind_v not_o where_o it_o be_v not_o authentical_o preach_v that_o be_v that_o at_o this_o day_n man_n may_v be_v save_v without_o a_o explicit_a belief_n of_o christ_n for_o in_o that_o sense_n speak_v the_o doctor_n concern_v the_o jew_n and_o very_o what_o ever_o my_o illustrious_a master_n hold_v with_o his_o learned_a master_n herera_n i_o think_v that_o this_o be_v the_o opinion_n of_o the_o doctor_n scotus_n and_o the_o common_a one_o which_o also_o vega_n a_o faithful_a scotist_n follow_v and_o faber_n 4._o d._n 3._o petigianis_fw-la 3._o d._n 25._o q._n 1._o and_o of_o the_o thomist_n banne_n 22._o q._n 2._o a._n 8._o canon_n and_o other_o and_o he_o gather_v it_o to_o be_v the_o mind_n of_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n sesse_n 6._o cap._n 4._o and_o add_v pag._n 113._o be_v effectual_o prove_v by_o the_o doctor_n from_o joh._n 15._o if_o i_o have_v not_o come_v and_o speak_v to_o they_o they_o have_v not_o have_v sin_n i_o know_v the_o dictor_n of_o the_o contrary_a opinion_n answer_v that_o such_o be_v not_o cendemn_v for_o the_o sin_n of_o infidelty_n precise_o but_o for_o other_o sin_n that_o binder_n the_o illumination_n and_o special_a help_n of_o god_n but_o very_o the_o doctor_n there_o argue_v that_o the_o jew_n may_v by_o circumcision_n be_v cleanse_v from_o original_a sin_n and_o save_v without_o the_o gospel_n and_o according_o he_o may_v argue_v as_o to_o all_o other_o to_o who_o the_o gospel_n be_v not_o authentical_o promulgate_v else_o his_o reason_n will_v not_o hold_v and_o our_o most_o grave_a corduba_n l._n 2._o qu._n theol._n q._n 5._o subscribe_v to_o this_o opinion_n say_v since_o the_o promulgation_n of_o the_o gospel_n a_fw-fr explicite_fw-la belief_n of_o christ_n be_v necessary_a except_o with_o the_o invincible_o ignorant_a to_o who_o a_o implicit_a suffice_v to_o the_o life_n of_o grace_n but_o whether_o it_o suffice_v to_o the_o life_n of_o glory_n be_v a_o problem_n but_o it_o be_v more_o probable_a that_o here_o also_o a_o implicit_a suffice_v page_n 114._o he_o add_v the_o consent_n of_o medina_n re_fw-mi recta_fw-la in_o deum_fw-la fide_fw-la lib._n 4._o cap._n ult_n and_o of_o bradwardine_n fol._n 62._o that_o a_o implicit_a belief_n of_o christ_n be_v sufficient_a to_o salvation_n and_o pag._n 115._o he_o say_v that_o this_o be_v the_o way_n to_o the_o end_n debate_v of_o they_o that_o think_v the_o article_n of_o the_o trinity_n of_o christ_n of_o the_o incarnation_n etc._n etc._n be_v necessary_a to_o salvation_n though_o not_o to_o justification_n and_o answer_v they_o he_o say_v that_o such_o be_v not_o formal_o without_o the_o church_n you_o see_v then_o formal_o insidel_n be_v in_o their_o church_n and_o may_v be_v save_v in_o his_o opinion_n and_o pag._n 116._o after_o a_o blow_n at_o vellosillus_n he_o cit_v also_o victoria_n relect._n 4_o de_fw-fr indis_fw-fr &_o richard_n de_fw-fr med._n villa_n 3._o 25._o art_n 3._o qu._n 1._o and_o other_o for_o this_o opinion_n and_o tell_v you_o what_o his_o implicit_a faith_n be_v to_o believe_v as_o the_o church_n believe_v and_o page_n 118._o he_o answer_v from_o scotus_n the_o question_n whether_o such_o person_n may_v hold_v the_o contrary_a error_n to_o the_o truth_n that_o they_o be_v ignorant_a of_o and_o say_v no_o out_o of_o scotus_n while_o it_o be_v preach_v but_o in_o some_o one_o place_n till_o he_o know_v it_o to_o be_v believe_v as_o a_o truth_n by_o the_o church_n and_o then_o he_o must_v firm_o adhere_v to_o it_o which_o the_o charitable_a friar_n apply_v to_o england_n as_o excusable_a for_o not_o believe_v some_o of_o their_o article_n and_o he_o cit_v petigianis_fw-la say_v if_o a_o simple_a old_a woman_n shall_v hear_v a_o false_a opinion_n from_o a_o false_a prophet_n as_o that_o the_o substance_n of_o the_o bread_n remain_v with_o christ_n body_n in_o the_o eucharist_n and_o believe_v it_o do_v she_o sin_n because_o of_o this_o no_o this_o be_v too_o hard_a and_o cruel_a to_o affirm_v pag._n 119._o he_o cit_v angle_n and_o agree_v with_o he_o that_o such_o as_o have_v no_o knowledge_n of_o these_o thing_n to_o stir_v they_o up_o be_v
may_v say_v take_v this_o be_v my_o house_n this_o be_v my_o land_n which_o i_o deliver_v thou_o if_o you_o be_v among_o many_o image_n in_o a_o room_n you_o will_v not_o blame_v he_o that_o say_v this_o be_v peter_n and_o this_o be_v paul_n and_o this_o be_v the_o virgin_n mary_n 2._o the_o scripture_n often_o call_v it_o bread_n after_o the_o consecration_n which_o you_o condemn_v we_o for_o therefore_o we_o be_v teach_v to_o call_v it_o so_o 3._o the_o scripture_n say_v 1_o cor._n 10._o 4._o that_o rock_n be_v christ_n and_o he_o say_v i_o be_o the_o door_n john_n 10._o 7._o i_o be_o the_o true_a vine_n john_n 15._o 1_o david_n say_v i_o be_o a_o worm_n and_o no_o man_n psal_n 22._o 6._o we_o believe_v all_o this_o but_o must_v we_o be_v therefore_o reproach_v if_o we_o say_v that_o david_n be_v a_o man_n that_o the_o rock_n be_v christ_n typical_o that_o he_o be_v a_o vine_n and_o door_n metaphorical_o only_a and_o yet_o these_o be_v as_o plain_a as_o this_o be_v my_o body_n and_o this_o be_v my_o blood_n his_o four_o accusation_n be_v the_o scripture_n say_v that_o baptism_n save_v we_o and_o that_o we_o be_v cleanse_v and_o regenerate_v by_o the_o wash_n of_o water_n on_o the_o contrary_a you_o say_v that_o baptism_n do_v neither_o save_v we_o nor_o regenerate_v we_o but_o be_v only_o to_o we_o a_o symbol_n of_o salvation_n ablution_n and_o regeneration_n which_o be_v no_o where_o say_v in_o scripture_n answ_n a_o childish_a contest_v about_o word_n we_o say_v that_o two_o thing_n go_v to_o our_o full_a possession_n of_o our_o state_n of_o regeneration_n justification_n and_o cleanse_v one_o be_v our_o fundamental_a right_n which_o the_o promise_n of_o the_o gospel_n give_v we_o upon_o our_o heart_n consent_n or_o covenant_n with_o god_n the_o other_o be_v our_o solemn_a investiture_n in_o regard_n of_o the_o former_a we_o be_v christian_n and_o regenerate_v and_o justify_v before_o baptism_n in_o regard_n of_o the_o late_a we_o be_v make_v christian_n regenerate_v justify_v save_v by_o baptism_n this_o we_o common_o hold_v and_o so_o never_o deny_v what_o you_o false_o say_v we_o deny_v as_o a_o man_n be_v make_v a_o king_n by_o his_o coronation_n that_o yet_o in_o a_o sort_n be_v one_o before_o or_o as_o marriage_n make_v they_o husband_n and_o wife_n by_o public_a solemnisation_n that_o be_v fundamental_o so_o before_o by_o private_a covenant_n or_o as_o possession_n be_v give_v by_o a_o key_n a_o twig_n and_o a_o turf_n as_o i_o say_v of_o that_o which_o a_o man_n have_v right_a to_o before_o so_o be_v we_o solemn_o invest_v with_o those_o benefit_n by_o baptism_n which_o we_o have_v a_o fundamental_a title_n to_o before_o do_v not_o your_o own_o writer_n confess_v this_o of_o a_o man_n that_o be_v baptise_a many_o year_n after_o he_o have_v faith_n and_o charity_n do_v you_o think_v cornelius_n and_o the_o rest_n that_o have_v the_o holy_a ghost_n before_o baptism_n act._n 10._o have_v not_o justification_n before_o do_v you_o think_v that_o constantine_n the_o great_a be_v unpardoned_a unregenerate_a and_o no_o christian_n till_o he_o be_v baptise_a or_o rather_o will_v you_o make_v quarrel_n against_o your_o own_o confession_n his_o five_o accusation_n be_v scripture_n say_v that_o priest_n do_v forgive_v sin_n on_o the_o contrary_a you_o say_v that_o they_o do_v not_o remit_v they_o but_o only_o testify_v that_o they_o be_v remit_v which_o the_o scripture_n no_o where_o say_v answ_n as_o if_o testification_n can_v not_o be_v a_o remission_n we_o say_v that_o who_o sin_n the_o pastor_n of_o the_o church_n remit_v they_o be_v remit_v do_v you_o not_o know_v that_o these_o very_a word_n be_v use_v to_o every_o presbyter_n in_o our_o ordination_n here_o in_o england_n we_o say_v 1._o that_o pastor_n do_v as_o god_n ambassador_n proclaim_v his_o general_n conditional_a pardon_n unto_o all_o 2._o that_o they_o be_v god_n minister_n to_o make_v a_o particular_a application_n and_o delivery_n of_o pardon_n in_o baptism_n on_o supposition_n that_o the_o baptise_a be_v qualify_v for_o pardon_n 3._o that_o they_o be_v as_o his_o minister_n to_o make_v the_o same_o application_n by_o declaration_n and_o delivery_n in_o the_o absolution_n of_o the_o penitent_a on_o supposition_n that_o their_o penitence_n be_v sincere_a 4._o and_o as_o church_n governor_n they_o may_v on_o good_a consideration_n sometime_o remit_v some_o humble_v disgraceful_a act_n that_o be_v impose_v on_o the_o penitent_a for_o the_o testification_n of_o his_o repentance_n and_o the_o satisfaction_n of_o the_o church_n and_o be_v not_o these_o four_o concession_n enough_o or_o be_v you_o mind_v to_o pick_v quarrel_n that_o yourselves_o and_o other_o may_v have_v fuel_n for_o the_o rancour_n and_o uncharitableness_n of_o your_o mind_n but_o indeed_o we_o do_v not_o think_v that_o any_o man_n can_v primary_o as_o the_o chief_a agent_n forgive_v sin_n but_o god_n must_v be_v the_o first_o pardoner_n nor_o that_o any_o man_n can_v pardon_v the_o sin_n of_o the_o dead_a and_o abate_v or_o shorten_v the_o pain_n of_o the_o soul_n in_o a_o fire_n call_v purgatory_n here_o we_o leave_v you_o and_o very_o if_o the_o pope_n have_v power_n to_o remit_v but_o the_o very_a temporal_a punishment_n he_o be_v a_o cruel_a wretch_n that_o will_v not_o forgive_v man_n even_o good_a man_n the_o torment_n of_o the_o gout_n and_o the_o stone_n and_o a_o hundred_o disease_n nay_o that_o will_v not_o remit_v they_o to_o himself_o no_o nor_o the_o pain_n of_o death_n when_o he_o be_v so_o loath_a to_o die_v but_o i_o forget_v that_o the_o pope_n have_v no_o body_n to_o forgive_v he_o because_o none_o above_o he_o he_o that_o can_v remit_v the_o punishment_n which_o we_o see_v and_o feel_v how_o shall_v we_o believe_v he_o without_o any_o divine_a testimony_n that_o he_o can_v remit_v a_o penalty_n that_o he_o never_o see_v nor_o feel_v nor_o no_o man_n else_o that_o can_v be_v prove_v his_o six_o accusation_n be_v scripture_n say_v if_o a_o virgin_n marry_v she_o sin_v not_o but_o you_o say_v that_o the_o just_a sin_n in_o all_o work_n which_o scripture_n mention_n not_o answ_n 1._o do_v you_o believe_v in_o your_o conscience_n that_o the_o scripture_n mean_v that_o a_o virgin_n sin_v not_o at_o all_o in_o any_o circumstance_n or_o defect_n in_o the_o manner_n or_o concomitant_n of_o her_o marriage_n then_o i_o pray_v tell_v your_o nun_n so_o that_o if_o they_o marry_v they_o sin_v not_o tell_v priest_n so_o that_o if_o they_o marry_v they_o sin_v not_o your_o own_o reason_n can_v expect_v no_o other_o sense_n in_o the_o word_n but_o that_o marriage_n as_o such_o be_v no_o sin_n to_o the_o virgin_n and_o this_o we_o grant_v but_o yet_o if_o you_o think_v that_o in_o this_o or_o in_o any_o other_o work_n you_o see_v god_n as_o apprehensive_o and_o believe_v as_o strong_o and_o restrain_v every_o wander_a thought_n as_o exact_o and_o love_n god_n as_o much_o as_o you_o be_v bind_v to_o do_v by_o the_o very_a law_n of_o nature_n itself_o so_o that_o you_o be_v perfect_o blameless_a and_o need_v not_o be_v behold_v to_o the_o blood_n of_o christ_n to_o the_o mercy_n of_o god_n to_o the_o spirit_n of_o grace_n either_o for_o the_o forgiveness_n of_o these_o fail_n or_o the_o cure_n of_o they_o you_o show_v then_o a_o proud_a pharisaical_a spirit_n unacquainted_a with_o itself_o and_o with_o the_o gospel_n do_v you_o go_v on_o and_o say_v lord_n i_o thank_v thou_o that_o i_o be_o not_o as_o other_o man_n and_o i_o will_v rather_o say_v lord_n be_v merciful_a to_o i_o a_o sinner_n and_o which_o shall_v be_v rather_o justify_v christ_n have_v tell_v we_o the_o stream_n can_v be_v perfect_o sinless_a till_o the_o fountain_n be_v so_o and_o who_o can_v say_v i_o have_v make_v my_o heart_n clean_o i_o be_o pure_a from_o my_o sin_n prov._n 20._o 9_o for_o there_o be_v not_o a_o just_a man_n upon_o earth_n that_o do_v good_a and_o sin_v not_o eccl._n 7._o 20._o christ_n tell_v we_o that_o the_o fruit_n will_v be_v like_o the_o tree_n the_o action_n like_o the_o heart_n and_o therefore_o a_o imperfect_a heart_n will_v have_v imperfect_a duty_n if_o you_o dare_v say_v there_o be_v no_o remnant_n of_o sin_n in_o your_o heart_n you_o have_v so_o much_o of_o it_o that_o hinder_v you_o from_o see_v it_o humility_n and_o self-knowledge_n will_v soon_o end_v this_o controversy_n we_o say_v not_o that_o all_o our_o work_n be_v sin_n that_o be_v either_o material_o forbid_v or_o do_v in_o wickedness_n and_o from_o vicious_a predominant_a habit_n but_o that_o the_o same_o work_n which_o material_o be_v good_a be_v taint_v with_o our_o sinful_a imperfection_n have_v not_o in_o they_o that_o measure_n of_o knowledge_n faith_n love_n etc._n etc._n as_o
we_o ought_v to_o have_v and_o therefore_o that_o we_o must_v beg_v pardon_n for_o our_o imperfection_n and_o fly_v to_o the_o blood_n and_o merit_n of_o christ_n through_o who_o god_n will_v accept_v both_o our_o work_n and_o we_o for_o all_o the_o imperfection_n which_o he_o pardon_v to_o we_o of_o his_o grace_n his_o seven_o accusation_n be_v scripture_n say_v that_o there_o be_v wicked_a man_n and_o reprobate_n that_o believe_v in_o christ_n but_o you_o contend_v that_o they_o believe_v not_o but_o have_v only_o a_o shadow_n of_o faith_n which_o no_o scripture_n say_v answ_n again_o a_o quarrel_n about_o the_o name_n of_o faith_n unworthy_a serious_a man_n we_o say_v that_o reprobate_n do_v believe_v and_o we_o say_v that_o they_o believe_v not_o take_z belief_n in_o different_a sense_n we_o believe_v what_o ever_o the_o scripture_n say_v even_o that_o the_o devil_n believe_v and_o tremble_v and_o yet_o as_o believer_n and_o christian_n be_v all_o one_o we_o be_v loath_a to_o call_v the_o devil_n believer_n and_o christian_n but_o you_o may_v do_v it_o if_o you_o please_v as_o belief_n signify_v a_o bare_a uneffectual_a conviction_n or_o superficial_a assent_n which_o you_o call_v fides_fw-la informis_fw-la so_o we_o still_o confess_v that_o the_o wicked_a may_v believe_v but_o as_o belief_n signify_v our_o receive_v of_o christ_n and_o come_v to_o he_o and_o be_v plant_v into_o he_o as_o his_o member_n and_o take_v he_o hearty_o as_o christ_n our_o lord_n and_o saviour_n and_o so_o become_a christian_n and_o disciple_n as_o it_o signify_v such_o a_o faith_n that_o have_v the_o promise_n of_o pardon_n of_o sin_n of_o adoption_n and_o of_o glory_n so_o we_o say_v that_o the_o wicked_a have_v but_o a_o show_n or_o shadow_n of_o it_o and_o this_o be_v the_o sense_n of_o the_o word_n of_o calvin_n p._n martyr_n beza_n and_o danaeus_n who_o you_o cite_v and_o do_v you_o not_o think_v so_o yourselves_o indeed_o you_o know_v not_o what_o to_o believe_v in_o this_o as_o i_o have_v show_v in_o postscript_n to_o my_o disput_n of_o sacrament_n his_o eight_o accusation_n be_v this_o scripture_n say_v that_o there_o be_v some_o that_o believe_v for_o a_o time_n and_o after_o at_o another_o time_n believe_v not_o you_o deny_v that_o there_o be_v any_o that_o believe_v for_o a_o time_n and_o then_o fall_v from_o faith_n and_o that_o he_o that_o once_o believe_v do_v ever_o lose_v that_o faith_n which_o be_v not_o in_o any_o scripture_n to_o be_v find_v answ_n it_o be_v too_o light_a in_o serious_a matter_n to_o play_v thus_o upon_o word_n 1._o we_o still_o maintain_v that_o there_o be_v some_o that_o believe_v but_o for_o a_o time_n and_o afterward_o fall_v away_o but_o we_o say_v it_o be_v but_o with_o a_o uneffectual_a or_o common_a assent_n that_o they_o believe_v such_o as_o you_o call_v fides_fw-la informis_fw-la your_o accusation_n therefore_o be_v false_a the_o seman_n aquavitae_fw-la and_o faith_n that_o calvin_n speak_v of_o in_o the_o place_n which_o you_o cite_v be_v mean_v only_o of_o a_o save_a faith_n such_o as_o you_o call_v fides_fw-la charitate_fw-la formata_fw-la if_o any_o of_o you_o think_v that_o faith_n be_v call_v charitate_fw-la formata_fw-la or_o justify_v or_o save_v faith_n only_o by_o a_o extrinsical_a denomination_n from_o a_o concomitant_a and_o that_o there_o be_v no_o difference_n in_o the_o faith_n itself_o between_o that_o of_o the_o unjustified_a and_o of_o the_o justify_v you_o be_v mistake_v against_o all_o reason_n your_o own_o philosopher_n frequent_o maintain_v that_o the_o will_v which_o be_v the_o seat_n of_o charity_n follow_v the_o practical_a dictate_v of_o the_o intellect_n which_o be_v the_o seat_n of_o assent_n and_o therefore_o according_a to_o those_o philosopher_n a_o practical_a belief_n must_v needs_o be_v accompany_v with_o charity_n and_o those_o that_o deny_v this_o do_v yet_o maintain_v that_o a_o powerful_a clear_a assent_n of_o the_o intellect_n will_v infallible_o procure_v the_o determination_n of_o the_o will_n though_o every_o assent_n will_v not_o and_o though_o it_o do_v it_o not_o necessary_o so_o that_o on_o that_o account_n and_o in_o common_a reason_n there_o must_v needs_o be_v a_o intrinsic_a difference_n between_o that_o assent_n which_o prevail_v with_o the_o will_v to_o determine_v itself_o and_o that_o which_o can_v so_o prevail_v and_o therefore_o your_o unformed_a and_o your_o form_a faith_n have_v some_o intrinsic_a difference_n 2._o the_o lutheran_n that_o be_v half_a the_o protestant_n do_v think_v that_o justify_v faith_n may_v be_v lose_v so_o that_o be_v it_o right_n or_o wrong_n you_o can_v charge_v this_o on_o they_o all_o 3._o the_o rest_n which_o be_v not_o of_o their_o mind_n do_v hold_v a_o brotherly_a communion_n with_o they_o and_o therefore_o take_v not_o that_o point_n to_o be_v of_o so_o much_o moment_n as_o to_o break_v communion_n 4._o be_v you_o not_o at_o odds_o among_o yourselves_o about_o perseverance_n some_o lay_v it_o first_o on_o man_n free_a will_n and_o some_o with_o austin_n ascertain_v perseverance_n to_o the_o elect_n because_o elect_a and_o lay_v it_o on_o god_n free_a gift_n and_o some_o jesuit_n and_o school_n man_n affirm_v that_o the_o confirm_v in_o grace_n be_v not_o only_o certain_a to_o persevere_v but_o that_o they_o necessary_o believe_v and_o be_v save_v and_o can_v mortal_o sin_v strange_a doctrine_n for_o a_o jesuit_n of_o all_o this_o controversy_n of_o perseverance_n i_o desire_v the_o reader_n to_o see_v a_o few_o sheet_n call_v a_o account_n of_o my_o judgement_n hereabout_o when_o i_o write_v those_o i_o know_v not_o who_o alvarez_n mean_v lib._n 10._o disp_n 104._o pag._n 419._o §_o 1._o the_o auxil_n when_o he_o dispute_v against_o this_o sort_n of_o man_n but_o since_o i_o find_v it_o in_o his_o respon_n ad_fw-la object_n lib._n 2._o cap._n 9_o pag._n 522_o etc._n etc._n where_o he_o tell_v we_o that_o it_o be_v the_o jesuit_n gregory_n de_fw-fr valentia_n tom._n 2._o disp_n 8._o q._n 3._o punct_a 4._o §_o 2._o &_o tom._n 1._o d_o 1._o q._n 23._o punct_a 4._o §_o 7._o ubi_fw-la docet_fw-la non_fw-la solum_fw-la esse_fw-la praeelectos_fw-la ut_fw-la salventur_fw-la sed_fw-la ut_fw-la necessario_fw-la salventur_fw-la ac_fw-la per_fw-la consequens_fw-la non_fw-la posse_fw-la peccare_fw-la mortaliter_fw-la &_o necessario_fw-la persevere_v be_v in_o gratia_fw-la ac_fw-la eatenus_fw-la non_fw-la libere_fw-la sed_fw-la necessario_fw-la salvari_fw-la and_o also_o that_o he_o mean_v alexand._n alice_n 3._o p._n q._n 9_o et_fw-la almainin_n 3._o d._n 11._o q._n 2._o qui_fw-la asserunt_fw-la confirmatos_fw-la in_o gratia_n non_fw-la habere_fw-la libertatem_fw-la etc._n etc._n quam_fw-la sententiam_fw-la medina_n impugnat_fw-la 3._o p._n q._n 27._o art_n 4._o this_o be_v more_o than_o protestant_n say_v and_o yet_o will_v you_o quarrel_v his_o nine_o accusation_n be_v this_o scripture_n say_v if_o thou_o will_v enter_v into_o life_n keep_v the_o commandment_n you_o say_v that_o there_o be_v no_o need_n of_o keep_v the_o commandment_n and_o that_o he_o that_o say_v it_o do_v deny_v christ_n and_o abolish_v faith_n of_o which_o the_o scripture_n speak_v not_o a_o word_n answ_n still_o confusion_n play_v your_o game_n and_o you_o strive_v about_o word_n we_o distinguish_v between_o the_o keep_n of_o that_o law_n of_o work_n or_o nature_n which_o make_v perfect_a obedience_n the_o only_a condition_n of_o life_n and_o the_o keep_n of_o the_o law_n of_o moses_n as_o such_o and_o the_o keep_n of_o the_o law_n of_o christ_n for_o the_o two_o first_o we_o say_v that_o no_o man_n can_v be_v justify_v by_o the_o work_n of_o the_o law_n be_v this_o a_o doubt_n among_o papist_n that_o believe_v paul_n epistle_n but_o as_o for_o the_o law_n of_o christ_n as_o such_o we_o must_v endeavour_v to_o keep_v it_o perfect_o that_n necessary_a necessitate_v praecepti_fw-la and_o must_v needs_o keep_v it_o sincere_o necessitate_v medii_fw-la if_o we_o will_v be_v save_v this_o all_o protestant_n that_o ever_o i_o speak_v with_o be_v agree_v in_o and_o dare_v any_o papist_n deny_v it_o if_o we_o be_v not_o all_o nor_o you_o neither_o agree_v on_o the_o sense_n of_o that_o text_n of_o scripture_n yet_o be_v we_o agree_v on_o the_o doctrine_n and_o yet_o you_o quarrel_n his_o ten_o accusation_n be_v scripture_n say_v that_o some_o that_o be_v illuminate_v and_o make_v partaker_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n do_v fall_v and_o crucify_v again_o to_o themselves_o the_o son_n of_o god_n but_o you_o defend_v that_o whoever_o be_v once_o partaker_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n can_v fall_v from_o his_o grace_n which_o scripture_n speak_v not_o answ_n the_o same_o again_o and_o a_o mere_a untruth_n we_o still_o maintain_v that_o those_o word_n of_o scripture_n be_v of_o certain_a truth_n but_o we_o distinguish_v between_o the_o common_a and_o the_o special_a gift_n of_o the_o spirit_n the_o common_a
good_a sadness_n do_v god_n send_v john_n the_o twenty_o second_o alias_o the_o twenty_o three_o to_o extinguish_v heresy_n with_o all_o those_o abomination_n and_o all_o that_o infidelity_n that_o be_v charge_v on_o he_o by_o a_o general_n council_n and_o be_v john_n the_o thirteen_o a_o vice_n christ_n to_o extinguish_v heresy_n by_o all_o that_o diabolical_a villainy_n that_o he_o be_v depose_v for_o by_o a_o council_n 3._o and_o for_o call_v council_n they_o have_v learn_v more_o wit_n since_o constance_n and_o basil_n have_v let_v they_o know_v what_o council_n mean_v to_o do_v by_o they_o unless_o they_o can_v pack_v up_o forty_o or_o fifty_o or_o what_o if_o it_o be_v a_o hundred_o or_o two_o hundred_o as_o they_o do_v at_o trent_n to_o say_v their_o lesson_n as_o it_o be_v bring_v to_o they_o from_o rome_n and_o to_o call_v themselves_o a_o general_n council_n for_o folk_n to_o laugh_v at_o they_o be_v this_o all_o that_o we_o must_v have_v a_o vice-christ_n for_o how_o many_o general_a council_n do_v the_o pope_n call_v for_o six_o hundred_o year_n after_o christ_n tell_v we_o without_o lie_v and_o let_v we_o see_v why_o he_o be_v create_v the_o seven_o reason_n be_v that_o the_o divine_a institution_n of_o christ_n and_o the_o plain_a scripture_n about_o peter_n primacy_n may_v take_v place_n answ_n 1._o where_o shall_v a_o man_n that_o have_v eye_n find_v your_o pretend_a institution_n the_o blind_a may_v soon_o find_v it_o by_o the_o half_a 2._o primacy_n and_o monarchy_n be_v not_o all_o one_o and_o bellarmine_n can_v tell_v you_o that_o its_o one_o thing_n to_o be_v the_o first_o apostle_n and_o another_o thing_n to_o be_v the_o vice-christ_n to_o the_o church_n universal_a peter_n be_v none_o such_o 3._o no_o nor_o be_v he_o proper_o any_o more_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n then_o of_o many_o another_o place_n antioch_n claim_v the_o inheritance_n by_o birthright_n as_o peter_n first_o suppose_v seat_n and_o jerusalem_n before_o they_o both_o well_o reader_n thou_o see_v now_o how_o babel_n be_v build_v and_o what_o be_v the_o strong_a stuff_n that_o the_o learned_a spaniard_n have_v to_o assault_v prince_n charles_n with_o for_o very_o i_o have_v not_o bawkt_v their_o strength_n and_o be_v it_o not_o for_o the_o loss_n of_o precious_a time_n to_o you_o and_o i_o i_o will_v quick_o thus_o show_v you_o the_o vanity_n of_o abundance_n more_o of_o their_o most_o applaud_a write_n chap._n xliii_o detect_v 34._o another_o of_o their_o device_n be_v to_o take_v nothing_o as_o evidence_n from_o scripture_n but_o the_o letter_n or_o express_a word_n they_o will_v not_o endure_v to_o hear_v of_o consequence_n no_o nor_o synonimal_n expression_n bellarmine_n himself_o say_v the_o verb._n dei_fw-la lib._n 3._o cap._n 3._o convenit_fw-la inter_fw-la nos_fw-la &_o adversarios_fw-la ex_fw-la solo_fw-la literali_fw-la sensu_fw-la peti_fw-la de_fw-la bear_v argumenta_fw-la efficacia_fw-la nam_fw-la eum_fw-la sensum_fw-la qui_fw-la ex_fw-la verbis_fw-la immediate_a colligitur_fw-la certum_fw-la est_fw-la sensum_fw-la esse_fw-la spiritus_fw-la sancti_fw-la but_o this_o may_v admit_v a_o fair_a interpretation_n it_o be_v cardinal_n peronius_n in_o his_o reply_n against_o king_n james_n that_o be_v judge_v the_o deviser_n of_o this_o deceit_n but_o gonterius_n and_o veronius_n the_o jesuit_n have_v perfect_v it_o i_o shall_v say_v but_o little_a of_o it_o because_o it_o be_v already_o detect_v and_o refell_v by_o paul_n ferrius_n 1618._o and_o isaaccus_n chorinus_n 1623._o and_o nic._n vedelius_fw-la 1628._o at_o large_a yea_o vedelius_fw-la show_n cap._n 6._o p._n 50._o etc._n etc._n that_o it_o be_v hatch_v in_o germany_n by_o the_o lutheran_n for_o the_o defend_n of_o consubstantiation_n and_o from_o they_o borrow_v by_o the_o revolter_n perron_n for_o our_o part_n the_o cunning_a sophister_n shall_v find_v we_o very_o reasonable_a with_o they_o in_o this_o point_n but_o if_o they_o be_v fall_v out_o with_o reason_n itself_o there_o be_v no_o way_n to_o please_v they_o but_o by_o turn_v bruit_n and_o we_o will_v not_o buy_v their_o favour_n at_o those_o rate_n our_o judgement_n in_o this_o point_n i_o shall_v lay_v down_o distinct_o though_o brief_o as_o follow_v 1._o the_o holy_a scripture_n be_v the_o doctrine_n testament_n and_o law_n of_o christ_n and_o we_o shall_v add_v nothing_o to_o it_o nor_o take_v aught_o from_o it_o the_o use_n of_o it_o as_o a_o doctrine_n be_v to_o inform_v we_o of_o the_o will_n of_o god_n in_o the_o point_n there_o write_v the_o use_n of_o it_o as_o a_o testament_n be_v to_o signify_v to_o we_o the_o last_o will_n of_o our_o lord_n concern_v our_o duty_n and_o salvation_n the_o use_n of_o it_o as_o a_o law_n be_v to_o appoint_v we_o our_o duty_n and_o reward_n or_o punishment_n and_o to_o be_v the_o rule_n of_o our_o obedience_n and_o in_o a_o sort_n the_o rule_n by_o which_o we_o shall_v be_v judge_v 2._o all_o law_n be_v make_v to_o reasonable_a creature_n and_o suppose_v the_o use_n of_o reason_n for_o the_o understanding_n they_o to_o use_v reason_n about_o the_o law_n be_v not_o to_o add_v to_o the_o law_n 3._o the_o subject_n must_v have_v this_o use_n of_o reason_n to_o discern_v the_o sense_n of_o the_o law_n that_o he_o may_v obey_v it_o and_o the_o judge_n must_v rational_o pass_v the_o sentence_n by_o it_o 4._o this_o be_v the_o application_n of_o the_o law_n to_o the_o fact_n and_o person_n and_o though_o the_o fact_n and_o person_n be_v not_o in_o the_o law_n yet_o the_o application_n of_o the_o law_n to_o the_o fact_n and_o person_n be_v no_o addition_n to_o it_o otherwise_o to_o use_v any_o such_o thing_n will_v be_v to_o add_v to_o it_o 5._o as_o the_o fact_n be_v distinct_a from_o the_o law_n so_o must_v the_o sentence_n of_o the_o judge_n be_v which_o result_v from_o both_o 6._o to_o speak_v the_o same_o sense_n or_o thing_n in_o equipollent_a term_n be_v not_o to_o add_v to_o the_o law_n in_o matter_n or_o sense_n 7._o yet_o we_o maintain_v the_o scripture_n sufficiency_n in_o svo_fw-la genere_fw-la in_o term_n and_o sense_n so_o that_o we_o shall_v confess_v that_o equipollent_a word_n be_v only_o holy_a scripture_n as_o to_o sense_n but_o not_o as_o to_o the_o term_n 8._o but_o there_o be_v no_o law_n but_o may_v many_o way_n be_v break_v and_o no_o doctrine_n but_o may_v be_v divers_a way_n oppose_v and_o therefore_o though_o we_o yield_v that_o nothing_o but_o the_o express_a word_n of_o god_n be_v the_o scripture_n for_o term_n and_o sense_n yet_o many_o thousand_o word_n may_v be_v against_o scripture_n that_o be_v not_o there_o express_o forbid_a in_o term_n 9_o the_o law_n of_o nature_n be_v god_n law_n and_o the_o light_n of_o nature_n be_v his_o revelation_n and_o therefore_o that_o which_o the_o light_n of_o nature_n see_v immediate_o in_o nature_n or_o that_o which_o it_o see_v from_o scripture_n and_o nature_n compare_v together_o and_o sound_o conclude_v from_o these_o premise_n be_v true_o a_o revelation_n from_o god_n 10._o the_o conclusion_n follow_v the_o more_o debile_a of_o the_o premise_n in_o point_n of_o evidence_n or_o certainty_n to_o we_o where_o scripture_n be_v the_o more_o debile_a there_o the_o conclusion_n be_v of_o scripture_n faith_n but_o where_o the_o fact_n or_o proposition_n from_o the_o light_n of_o nature_n be_v more_o debile_a there_o the_o conclusion_n be_v of_o natural_a evidence_n but_o in_o both_o of_o divine_a discovery_n for_o there_o be_v no_o truth_n and_o light_n but_o from_o god_n the_o father_n of_o light_n this_o be_v our_o judgement_n herein_o now_o for_o the_o papist_n you_o may_v see_v their_o folly_n thus_o 1._o if_o nothing_o but_o the_o bare_a word_n of_o a_o law_n may_v be_v hear_v in_o trial_n than_o all_o law_n in_o the_o world_n be_v void_a and_o vain_a for_o the_o subject_n be_v not_o all_o name_v in_o they_o nor_o the_o fact-named_n and_o what_o then_o have_v witness_n and_o juror_n and_o judge_n to_o do_v the_o promise_n say_v he_o that_o believe_v shall_v be_v save_v but_o it_o do_v not_o say_v that_o bellarmine_n or_o veronius_n believe_v do_v it_o follow_v that_o therefore_o they_o may_v make_v no_o use_n of_o it_o for_o the_o comfort_v of_o their_o soul_n in_o the_o hope_n of_o salvation_n the_o threaten_v say_v that_o he_o that_o believe_v not_o be_v condemn_v but_o it_o say_v not_o that_o such_o or_o such_o a_o man_n believe_v not_o shall_v they_o not_o therefore_o fear_v the_o threaten_a 2._o by_o this_o trick_n they_o will_v condemn_v christ_n himself_o also_o as_o add_v to_o the_o law_n in_o judgement_n he_o will_v say_v to_o they_o i_o be_v hungry_a and_o you_o feed_v i_o not_o etc._n etc._n but_o where_o say_v the_o scripture_n so_o that_o such_o or_o such_o a_o man_n feed_v not_o christ_n it_o need_v not_o christ_n know_v
the_o fact_n without_o the_o scripture_n the_o scripture_n be_v sufficient_a to_o its_o own_o use_n to_o be_v rule_n of_o obedience_n and_o judgement_n but_o it_o be_v not_o sufficient_a to_o every_o other_o use_n which_o it_o be_v never_o make_v for_o the_o law_n say_v to_o cain_n thou_o shall_v not_o murder_v but_o it_o say_v not_o to_o he_o thou_o have_v kill_v thy_o brother_n therefore_o thou_o shall_v die_v it_o be_v the_o judge_n part_n to_o deliver_v this_o 3._o by_o this_o trick_n they_o will_v give_v a_o man_n leave_v to_o vent_v any_o blasphemy_n or_o do_v any_o villainy_n change_v but_o the_o name_n but_o they_o shall_v find_v that_o the_o law_n intend_v not_o bare_a word_n but_o by_o word_n to_o signify_v thing_n and_o if_o they_o do_v the_o thing_n prohibit_v or_o hold_v the_o opinion_n condemn_v what_o ever_o name_n or_o word_n they_o clothe_v they_o with_o they_o shall_v feel_v the_o punishment_n 4._o by_o this_o they_o will_v leave_v almost_o nothing_o provable_a by_o the_o scripture_n see_v a_o papist_n or_o heretic_n may_v put_v the_o same_o into_o other_o term_n and_o then_o call_v for_o the_o proof_n of_o that_o for_o example_n they_o may_v ask_v where_o god_n command_v or_o institute_v any_o one_o of_o the_o sacrament_n in_o scripture_n and_o when_o we_o tell_v they_o where_o baptism_n and_o the_o lord_n supper_n be_v institute_v they_o may_v reply_v that_o there_o be_v no_o mention_n of_o sacrament_n and_o so_o turn_v real_a controversy_n into_o verbal_a 5._o yea_o it_o seem_v by_o this_o they_o will_v make_v all_o translation_n to_o be_v of_o little_a use_n and_o a_o man_n may_v lawful_o sin_v in_o english_a because_o god_n for_o bad_a it_o only_o in_o hebrew_a and_o greek_a 6._o if_o this_o be_v the_o way_n of_o it_o let_v we_o remember_v that_o they_o must_v in_o reason_n stand_v to_o their_o own_o rule_n let_v they_o tell_v we_o then_o what_o scripture_n say_v that_o peter_n be_v the_o vicar_n of_o christ_n or_o the_o head_n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n or_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n or_o that_o the_o pope_n be_v his_o successor_n or_o that_o the_o pope_n be_v the_o vice-christ_n or_o universal_a bishop_n where_o be_v there_o express_a scripture_n for_o any_o of_o this_o yea_o so_o much_o as_o bellarmine_n literal_a sense_n 7._o and_o why_o do_v not_o these_o blind_a and_o partial_a man_n see_v that_o the_o same_o course_n also_o must_v be_v take_v with_o their_o own_o law_n and_o that_o all_o their_o decretal_n and_o canon_n be_v insufficient_a according_a to_o these_o rule_n it_o be_v easy_a for_o any_o heretic_n to_o form_v up_o his_o error_n into_o other_o word_n then_o those_o condemn_v by_o pope_n or_o council_n and_o if_o you_o go_v again_o to_o the_o pope_n and_o get_v he_o to_o condemn_v those_o new_a expression_n the_o man_n in_o mexico_n may_v use_v they_o long_o to_o the_o detriment_n of_o the_o soul_n of_o man_n before_o the_o damnatory_a sentence_n be_v bring_v to_o they_o and_o when_o it_o come_v they_o can_v again_o word_n their_o heresy_n anew_o the_o jansenist_n in_o france_n show_v how_o well_o the_o pope_n decision_n of_o wordy_a controversy_n be_v understand_v and_o do_v avail_v but_o real_o if_o they_o will_v hold_v that_o no_o part_n of_o the_o pope_n law_n oblige_v but_o in_o the_o literal_a sense_n or_o that_o none_o offend_v that_o violate_v not_o the_o letter_n they_o will_v make_v a_o great_a alteration_n in_o their_o affair_n and_o perhaps_o any_o of_o their_o subject_n may_v blaspheme_n the_o pope_n himself_o in_o french_a dutch_a irish_a english_a slavonian_a etc._n etc._n because_o he_o forbid_v it_o only_o in_o latin_a for_o if_o translation_n be_v not_o god_n word_n than_o they_o be_v not_o the_o pope_n word_n neither_o a_o pretty_a crochet_n for_o a_o jesuit_n it_o be_v mendacium_fw-la and_o not_o a_o lie_n that_o the_o pope_n forbid_v it_o be_v say_v that_o a_o traitor_n or_o murderer_n may_v be_v hang_v but_o it_o be_v not_o say_v that_o such_o or_o such_o a_o man_n shall_v be_v hang_v or_o that_o he_o be_v a_o traitor_n or_o murderer_n their_o common_a instance_n be_v the_o scripture_n no_o where_o call_v itself_o the_o whole_a word_n of_o god_n nor_o no_o where_o tell_v we_o which_o be_v canonical_a book_n etc._n etc._n and_o yet_o these_o be_v article_n of_o faith_n answ_n 1._o the_o scripture_n do_v call_v itself_o the_o word_n of_o god_n and_o signify_v its_o own_o sufficiency_n and_o several_a book_n have_v particular_a testimony_n to_o be_v canonical_a 2._o though_o secondary_o so_o far_o as_o scripture_n affirm_v its_o own_o divinity_n it_o be_v to_o be_v believe_v yet_o primary_o that_o this_o be_v god_n word_n and_o that_o these_o be_v the_o book_n and_o that_o they_o be_v not_o corrupt_v and_o that_o they_o be_v all_o etc._n etc._n be_v point_n of_o knowledge_n antecedent_n in_o order_n of_o nature_n to_o divine_a belief_n of_o they_o there_o be_v two_o great_a foundation_n antecedent_n to_o the_o matter_n of_o divine_a faith_n the_o one_o be_v god_n veracity_n that_o god_n can_v lie_v the_o other_o be_v his_o revelation_n that_o this_o be_v god_n word_n the_o first_o be_v the_o formal_a object_n of_o faith_n the_o second_o be_v a_o necessary_a medium_fw-la between_o the_o formal_a object_n and_o the_o subject_n sine_fw-la quo_fw-la non_fw-la without_o which_o there_o be_v no_o possibility_n of_o believe_v the_o material_a object_n call_v the_o article_n of_o faith_n presuppose_v both_o these_o as_o points_z of_o knowledge_n prove_v to_o we_o by_o their_o proper_a evidence_n and_o that_o this_o be_v all_o the_o word_n of_o god_n be_v a_o mere_a consequence_n from_o the_o actual_a tradition_n of_o this_o much_o and_o no_o more_o to_o give_v you_o a_o undeniable_a illustration_n by_o instance_n let_v we_o inquire_v which_o be_v the_o administer_a law_n of_o this_o commonwealth_n and_o we_o shall_v find_v that_o 1._o the_o authority_n of_o the_o lawgiver_n be_v none_o of_o they_o for_o that_o be_v in_o the_o constitution_n before_o the_o administration_n and_o it_o be_v the_o formale_a objectum_fw-la of_o every_o law_n which_o be_v more_o noble_a than_o the_o material_a object_n 2._o and_o the_o promulgation_n of_o these_o law_n be_v not_o itself_o a_o law_n but_o a_o necessary_a medium_fw-la sine_fw-la quo_fw-la non_fw-la to_o the_o actual_a obligation_n of_o the_o law_n 3._o and_o that_o there_o be_v no_o other_o law_n but_o these_o be_v not_o a_o law_n but_o a_o point_n know_v by_o the_o non-promulgation_a of_o more_o 4._o and_o that_o all_o these_o law_n be_v the_o same_o that_o they_o pretend_v to_o be_v and_o that_o they_o be_v not_o change_v or_o deprave_v since_o this_o be_v not_o a_o law_n neither_o but_o a_o truth_n to_o be_v prove_v by_o common_a reason_n from_o the_o evidence_n that_o may_v be_v bring_v from_o record_n practice_n and_o abundance_n more_o so_o be_v it_o in_o our_o case_n 1._o that_o god_n be_v true_a and_o the_o sovereign_a rector_n be_v first_o a_o point_n to_o be_v know_v by_o evidence_n the_o one_o be_v the_o formal_a object_n of_o faith_n and_o the_o other_o the_o formal_a object_n of_o obedience_n and_o easy_o prove_v by_o natural_a light_n before_o we_o come_v to_o scripture_n 2._o and_o that_o this_o be_v god_n revelation_n or_o promulgation_n of_o his_o law_n be_v a_o point_n also_o first_o to_o be_v prove_v by_o reason_n not_o before_o we_o see_v the_o book_n or_o hear_v the_o word_n but_o out_o of_o the_o book_n or_o doctrine_n itself_o propria_fw-la luce_n together_o with_o the_o full_a historical_a evidence_n and_o many_o other_o reason_n which_o in_o order_n of_o nature_n lie_v before_o our_o obligation_n fide_fw-la divina_fw-la to_o believe_v so_o that_o this_o be_v not_o primary_o a_o article_n of_o faith_n but_o somewhat_o high_o as_o be_v the_o necessary_a medium_fw-la of_o our_o believe_v 3._o and_o that_o there_o be_v no_o other_o law_n or_o faith_n be_v not_o primary_o a_o law_n or_o article_n of_o faith_n but_o a_o truth_n prove_v by_o the_o non-revelation_n or_o promulgation_n of_o any_o other_o to_o the_o world_n he_o that_o will_v prove_v we_o oblige_v to_o believe_v more_o must_v prove_v the_o valid_a promulgation_n or_o revelation_n of_o more_o 4._o and_o that_o these_o book_n be_v the_o same_o and_o not_o corrupt_v be_v not_o direct_o and_o primary_o a_o article_n of_o faith_n but_o a_o historical_a verity_n to_o be_v prove_v as_o abovesaid_a and_o yet_o secondary_o scripture_n be_v a_o witness_n to_o all_o or_o most_o of_o these_o and_o so_o they_o be_v de_fw-fr fide_fw-la but_o of_o this_o i_o refer_v the_o reader_n for_o full_a satisfaction_n to_o my_o preface_n before_o my_o second_o part_n of_o the_o saint_n rest_v and_o thus_o it_o be_v manifest_a that_o it_o be_v a_o unreasonable_a demand_n of_o
heathen_n atheist_n or_o infidel_n these_o carry_v their_o judgement_n as_o to_o the_o positive_a part_n as_o close_o as_o any_o of_o the_o rest_n and_o be_v grow_v in_o england_n to_o a_o far_o great_a number_n and_o strength_n than_o be_v common_o imagine_v it_o be_v not_o only_a leviathan_n or_o his_o ocean_n that_o be_v guilty_a of_o this_o apostasy_n however_o they_o use_v the_o name_n of_o christ_n but_o abundance_n that_o lurk_v under_o several_a name_n a_o great_a while_o i_o know_v not_o what_o to_o make_v of_o this_o close_a generation_n but_o now_o i_o have_v find_v out_o that_o which_o shall_v make_v a_o believe_v tender_a heart_n to_o bleed_v even_o gross_a infidelity_n cause_v they_o secret_o to_o scorn_v at_o christ_n and_o the_o holy_a scripture_n and_o the_o life_n to_o come_v as_o bitter_o as_o ever_o julian_n do_v and_o this_o be_v creep_v so_o high_a and_o spread_v so_o far_o that_o it_o be_v dreadful_a to_o those_o few_o that_o be_v acquaint_v with_o its_o progress_n some_o that_o have_v late_o profess_v to_o turn_v papist_n for_o what_o end_v i_o know_v not_o be_v know_v to_o be_v stark_a infidel_n and_o some_o that_o have_v long_o go_v for_o lead_v man_n with_o they_o have_v satisfy_v we_o by_o their_o write_n that_o they_o be_v romanist_n of_o the_o most_o ancient_a strain_n even_o of_o the_o roman_a religion_n that_o be_v ancient_a than_o peter_n and_o paul_n and_o many_o of_o the_o unsettle_a sort_n of_o protestant_n be_v so_o far_o forsake_v of_o god_n as_o to_o apostatise_v to_o the_o same_o condition_n montaltus_n the_o jansenian_a take_v the_o jesuit_n for_o false_a unworthy_a calumniator_n for_o give_v out_o that_o they_o have_v long_o have_v a_o design_n at_o port-royal_a to_o overthrow_v the_o gospel_n and_o set_v up_o infidelity_n and_o mere_a deism_n but_o i_o be_o sure_a they_o deserve_v much_o hard_a word_n of_o we_o in_o england_n between_o they_o for_o do_v so_o much_o to_o destroy_v the_o christianity_n of_o many_o in_o order_n to_o the_o set_n up_o of_o popery_n i_o do_v not_o charge_v it_o all_o and_o only_o on_o the_o papist_n i_o know_v the_o devil_n have_v more_o sort_n of_o instrument_n than_o one_o but_o that_o they_o have_v have_v a_o notable_a hand_n in_o this_o apostasy_n we_o have_v good_a reason_n to_o satisfy_v we_o not_o that_o they_o desire_v that_o man_n shall_v be_v absolute_o and_o final_o infidel_n but_o 1._o they_o will_v make_v the_o world_n believe_v that_o all_o must_v be_v infidel_n that_o will_v not_o receive_v the_o christian_a faith_n upon_o the_o roman_a account_n and_o term_n and_o in_o order_n to_o this_o they_o industrious_o seek_v to_o disgrace_v the_o scripture_n and_o overthrow_v all_o the_o ground_n of_o the_o faith_n of_o such_o as_o they_o dispute_v with_o and_o so_o make_v they_o infidel_n in_o order_n to_o the_o proof_n of_o that_o their_o affirmation_n 2._o and_o then_o they_o think_v that_o they_o must_v take_v they_o off_o all_o religion_n as_o boverius_n afore_o cite_v to_o prepare_v they_o for_o the_o popish_a religion_n 3._o and_o the_o malice_n of_o some_o of_o they_o be_v such_o that_o they_o have_v rather_o man_n be_v infidel_n than_o protestant_n or_o at_o least_o they_o will_v venture_v they_o upon_o infidelity_n in_o the_o way_n rather_o than_o not_o take_v they_o off_o from_o be_v protestant_n and_o no_o wonder_n when_o they_o allow_v infidel_n so_o much_o more_o charity_n than_o protestant_n as_o to_o their_o salvation_n as_o all_o the_o author_n cite_v by_o s._n clara_n before_o do_v signify_v and_o when_o rome_n burn_v protestant_n but_o give_v toleration_n for_o jew_n and_o thus_o by_o these_o devilish_a device_n the_o hider_n in_o england_n that_o keep_v close_o their_o religion_n be_v discover_v at_o last_o to_o be_v one_o part_n of_o they_o infidel_n or_o heathen_n and_o another_o part_n of_o they_o papist_n and_o no_o wonder_n if_o they_o will_v late_o have_v introduce_v the_o jew_n here_o into_o england_n and_o if_o they_o have_v so_o many_o other_o design_n to_o promote_v this_o apostasy_n 4._o another_o sort_n that_o popery_n have_v here_o hatch_v or_o cherish_v be_v the_o socinian_o a_o sect_n with_o who_o both_o papist_n and_o heathen_n do_v join_v hand_n as_o the_o bond_n of_o their_o conjunction_n yet_o i_o know_v that_o they_o be_v not_o breed_v at_o first_o by_o popery_n and_o i_o know_v that_o the_o genuine_a papist_n that_o hold_v fast_o the_o article_n of_o their_o faith_n must_v needs_o disow_v the_o socinian_n but_o however_o it_o come_v to_o pass_v i_o be_o sure_a there_o be_v too_o many_o of_o late_a self-conceited_a man_n innovater_n in_o philosophy_n that_o have_v reduce_v their_o theology_n to_o their_o novel_a philosophy_n and_o expound_v scripture_n by_o such_o conceit_n as_o suit_n with_o the_o socinian_o i_o shall_v say_v nothing_o of_o the_o millenaries_n the_o leveller_n and_o many_o such_o like_a but_o here_o in_o the_o close_a i_o will_v desire_v any_o papist_n that_o be_v conscious_a of_o the_o promote_a of_o any_o of_o these_o forementioned_a abomination_n to_o tell_v we_o whether_o this_o be_v like_a to_o be_v the_o way_n of_o god_n or_o whether_o peter_n or_o paul_n do_v ever_o take_v such_o a_o course_n as_o this_o to_o plant_v the_o gospel_n or_o build_v up_o the_o church_n and_o whether_o it_o be_v like_a to_o be_v the_o cause_n of_o god_n that_o must_v be_v maintain_v by_o such_o mean_n be_v not_o their_o damnation_n just_a that_o say_v let_v we_o do_v evil_a that_o good_a may_v come_v thereby_o shall_v not_o the_o mean_n be_v suit_v to_o the_o end_n have_v the_o glory_n of_o god_n any_o need_n of_o a_o lie_n this_o course_n will_v never_o ingratiate_v your_o opinion_n with_o any_o wise_a considerate_a man_n this_o be_v but_o work_v with_o the_o devil_n for_o god_n like_v one_o that_o do_v consult_v with_o a_o witch_n or_o conjurer_n to_o find_v the_o good_n of_o the_o church_n when_o they_o be_v steal_v do_v you_o think_v god_n need_v the_o devil_n help_v or_o be_v it_o like_v to_o be_v help_n that_o come_v from_o he_o but_o the_o truth_n be_v it_o be_v your_o bad_a cause_n that_o require_v these_o evil_n mean_n and_o it_o be_v your_o bad_a heart_n that_o set_v you_o on_o work_n to_o use_v they_o though_o you_o think_v perhaps_o that_o you_o do_v god_n service_n by_o it_o yet_o you_o know_v not_o what_o spirit_n you_o be_v of_o christ_n ow_v not_o such_o way_n as_o these_o and_o therefore_o his_o servant_n will_v not_o own_v they_o chap._n xlvi_o detect_v 37._o another_o practical_a fraud_n of_o the_o papist_n be_v in_o hide_v themselves_o and_o their_o religion_n that_o they_o may_v do_v their_o work_n with_o the_o more_o advantage_n i_o shall_v tell_v you_o brief_o 1._o the_o way_n by_o which_o they_o do_v this_o and_o 2._o the_o advantage_n they_o get_v by_o it_o and_o 3._o help_v you_o to_o detect_v they_o 1._o the_o principal_a mean_n by_o which_o they_o conceal_v themselves_o be_v by_o thrust_v themselves_o into_o all_o sect_n and_o party_n and_o put_v on_o the_o vizor_n of_o any_o side_n as_o their_o cause_n require_v it_o be_v well_o know_v that_o former_o we_o have_v abundance_n of_o they_o that_o go_v under_o the_o name_n of_o protestant_n and_o be_v common_o call_v by_o the_o name_n of_o church-papists_a but_o there_o be_v great_a reason_n to_o think_v that_o there_o be_v more_o such_o now_o some_o of_o they_o be_v prelatist_n and_o some_o of_o they_o call_v themselves_o independent_n some_o creep_v in_o among_o the_o anabaptist_n and_o some_o go_v under_o the_o cloak_n of_o arminian_n and_o some_o of_o socinian_o and_o some_o of_o millenaries_n and_o all_o the_o other_o sect_n before_o mention_v they_o animate_v the_o vanist_n the_o behmenist_n and_o other_o enthusiast_n the_o seeker_n the_o quaker_n the_o origenist_n and_o all_o the_o juggler_n and_o hider_n of_o the_o time_n it_o be_v they_o that_o keep_v life_n in_o libertinism_n and_o in_o infidelity_n itself_o among_o every_o one_o of_o these_o party_n you_o may_v find_v they_o if_o you_o have_v the_o skill_n of_o unmask_v they_o 2._o another_o way_n of_o hide_v themselves_o be_v by_o have_v a_o dispensation_n to_o come_v to_o any_o of_o our_o assembly_n or_o join_v in_o worship_n with_o any_o party_n good_a or_o bad_a or_o else_o they_o will_v prove_v it_o lawful_a without_o a_o dispensation_n where_o the_o pope_n interdict_v it_o not_o and_o their_o way_n be_v this_o that_o all_o the_o old_a know_v papist_n especial_o of_o the_o poor_a sort_n shall_v be_v still_o forbid_v to_o come_v to_o our_o assembly_n lest_o they_o bring_v the_o blot_n of_o levity_n and_o temporizng_n on_o their_o religion_n and_o lest_o there_o shall_v not_o be_v a_o visible_a party_n among_o they_o to_o countenance_v their_o cause_n but_o
john_n baptist_n that_o be_v dead_a not_o only_o before_o rome_n have_v a_o church_n but_o also_o before_o the_o time_n that_o bellarmine_n and_o his_o brethren_n pretend_v that_o peter_n receive_v his_o commission_n to_o be_v the_o universal_a head_n and_o do_v not_o this_o writer_n know_v that_o protestant_n can_v give_v he_o the_o same_o name_n as_o for_o they_o and_o if_o print_v they_o be_v proof_n their_o proof_n be_v as_o good_a if_o it_o be_v not_o what_o proof_n shall_v we_o have_v our_o proof_n be_v the_o holy_a scripture_n write_v by_o the_o inspiration_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n in_o those_o time_n thence_o we_o prove_v that_o the_o first_o church_n hold_v the_o same_o belief_n as_o we_o have_v yea_o though_o it_o be_v not_o incumbent_n on_o we_o we_o will_v thence_o prove_v that_o the_o catholic_n church_n be_v not_o then_o papist_n why_o else_o do_v we_o still_o appeal_v to_o scripture_n and_o they_o refuse_v to_o stand_v to_o the_o trial_n of_o it_o any_o otherwise_o then_o as_o expound_v by_o the_o pope_n but_o that_o we_o be_v confident_a and_o they_o diffident_a of_o they_o we_o know_v the_o apostle_n faith_n from_o the_o apostle_n but_o the_o papist_n will_v not_o know_v it_o but_o from_o the_o present_a church_n of_o rome_n they_o tell_v you_o the_o apostle_n be_v for_o they_o but_o how_o know_v we_o that_o why_o by_o the_o testimony_n of_o the_o next_o age_n and_o where_o be_v that_o testimony_n why_o the_o three_o age_n receive_v it_o and_o how_o be_v that_o prove_v why_o because_o the_o four_o age_n be_v of_o their_o mind_n and_o how_o prove_v you_o that_o why_o in_o the_o upshot_n because_o the_o present_a age_n be_v of_o their_o mind_n why_o but_o most_o christian_n of_o the_o present_a age_n be_v against_o they_o yea_o but_o they_o be_v none_o of_o the_o church_n it_o be_v only_o the_o present_a church_n of_o rome_n well!_o but_o the_o present_a church_n of_o rome_n represent_v in_o a_o general_n council_n may_v err_v ay_o but_o the_o pope_n can_v in_o cathedra_fw-la and_o in_o approve_v a_o council_n so_o that_o the_o sum_n be_v this_o if_o the_o pope_n himself_o may_v be_v judge_n the_o apostle_n be_v papist_n but_o if_o the_o apostle_n may_v be_v hear_v themselves_o they_o be_v none_o i_o make_v no_o doubt_n though_o bellarmine_n deny_v it_o but_o other_o church_n can_v prove_v as_o good_a a_o succession_n as_o the_o roman_a as_o to_o bishop_n and_o poor_a bellarmine_n after_o all_o be_v fain_o to_o give_v up_o this_o mark_n as_o insufficient_a to_o prove_v a_o true_a church_n lib._n ●_o de_fw-fr eccles_n cap._n 8._o dico_fw-la secundò_fw-la argumentum_fw-la à_fw-la successione_n legittna_fw-la adferri_fw-la à_fw-la nobis_fw-la praecipuè_fw-la ad_fw-la probandum_fw-la non_fw-la esse_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la ibi_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la haec_fw-la successio_fw-la quod_fw-la quidem_fw-la evidens_fw-la est_fw-la ex_fw-la quo_fw-la tamen_fw-la n●_n colligitur_fw-la necessario_fw-la ibi_fw-la esse_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la ubi_fw-la est_fw-la successio_fw-la by_o his_o own_o confession_n then_o succession_n will_v not_o prove_v the_o romanist_n a_o true_a church_n but_o as_o to_o a_o succession_n of_o religion_n and_o a_o continuation_n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n for_o my_o part_n i_o be_o so_o far_o from_o decline_v it_o in_o argumentation_n that_o i_o here_o solemn_o profess_v to_o all_o the_o papist_n that_o shall_v read_v these_o word_n that_o as_o soon_o as_o i_o shall_v see_v any_o certain_a proof_n by_o catalogue_n or_o any_o other_z way_n that_o the_o catholic_n church_n have_v successive_o from_o age_n to_o age_n be_v papist_n i_o will_v turn_v papist_n without_o delay_n and_o i_o challenge_n they_o to_o give_v we_o such_o proof_n if_o they_o can._n nay_o if_o they_o will_v prove_v that_o in_o the_o first_o age_n alone_o or_o the_o second_o or_o three_o alone_o the_o catholic_n church_n be_v papist_n i_o be_o be_o resolve_v to_o turn_v papist_n nay_o i_o be_o most_o confident_a they_o can_v prove_v that_o in_o any_o one_o age_n to_o this_o day_n the_o catholic_n church_n be_v papist_n and_o as_o to_o h._n ts._n catalogue_n i_o return_v he_o further_o answer_v that_o no_o one_o name_v by_o he_o in_o the_o first_o age_n have_v any_o one_o of_o their_o error_n and_o no_o one_o name_v by_o he_o to_o the_o year_n four_o hundred_o i_o may_v add_v to_o the_o year_n six_o hundred_o if_o his_o false_a catalogue_n be_v true_o correct_v be_v a_o papist_n so_o well_o have_v he_o prove_v the_o popish_a succession_n but_o for_o the_o plain_a open_n of_o this_o i_o shall_v add_v the_o discussion_n of_o another_o of_o their_o deceit_n chap._n xxv_o detect_v 16._o another_o notable_a fraud_n of_o the_o papist_n be_v to_o confound_v all_o their_o own_o error_n and_o corruption_n together_o and_o then_o to_o instance_n in_o some_o of_o those_o error_n that_o be_v common_a to_o they_o with_o some_o other_o and_o to_o omit_v the_o essential_a part_n of_o popery_n and_o so_o they_o will_v make_v the_o world_n believe_v that_o if_o they_o prove_v the_o antiquity_n of_o any_o point_n in_o difference_n between_o they_o and_o we_o they_o do_v thereby_o prove_v the_o antiquity_n of_o popery_n and_o so_o of_o the_o succession_n and_o so_o they_o will_v make_v our_o religion_n also_o essential_o to_o consist_v in_o every_o inferior_a difference_n between_o we_o suffer_v they_o not_o therefore_o thus_o to_o juggle_v in_o the_o dark_a but_o distinguish_v between_o the_o essential_o of_o popery_n or_o the_o main_a difference_n between_o they_o and_o we_o and_o the_o other_o error_n which_o be_v not_o proper_a to_o they_o alone_o thus_o bellarmine_n open_v his_o juggle_a lib._n 4._o de_fw-fr eccles_n cap._n 9_o where_o he_o plead_v antiquity_n of_o doctrine_n as_o a_o note_n of_o the_o true_a church_n and_o say_v he_o jam_fw-la duobus_fw-la modis_fw-la etc._n etc._n two_o way_n we_o may_v by_o this_o mark_n prove_v our_o church_n 1._o by_o show_v the_o sentence_n of_o the_o ancient_n by_o which_o we_o confirm_v all_o our_o tenet_n and_o refute_v our_o adversary_n but_o this_o way_n say_v he_o be_v most_o prolix_a and_o obnoxious_a to_o many_o calumny_n and_o objection_n mark_v papist_n and_o take_v heed_n of_o appeal_n to_o antiquity_n the_o other_o way_n say_v he_o be_v short_a and_o sure_a by_o show_v first_o from_o the_o confession_n of_o the_o adversary_n that_o our_o tenant_n be_v the_o doctrine_n of_o all_o the_o ancients_n etc._n etc._n and_o indeed_o if_o the_o weakness_n or_o rashness_n of_o any_o protestant_n be_v the_o papist_n strength_n its_o time_n for_o we_o to_o be_v more_o prudent_a but_o if_o it_o be_v the_o papist_n unhappiness_n that_o can_v understand_v the_o ancients_n in_o the_o ancients_n but_o only_o from_o the_o pope_n or_o the_o protestant_n the_o father_n be_v fall_v into_o the_o hand_n of_o baby_n as_o well_o as_o the_o scripture_n and_o the_o protestant_n have_v too_o little_a wit_n if_o they_o will_v join_v with_o the_o pope_n in_o a_o abusive_a interpret_n the_o father_n for_o the_o papist_n and_o thus_o bellarmine_n proceed_v to_o cite_v calvin_n and_o the_o centurist_n as_o give_v they_o the_o father_n but_o wherein_o forsooth_o in_o the_o point_n of_o freewill_n limbus_n concupiscence_n lent_n lay_v baptism_n in_o necessity_n etc._n etc._n and_o therefore_o by_o our_o confession_n antiquity_n be_v for_o the_o papist_n and_o this_o be_v their_o short_a and_o sure_a way_n the_o more_o fool_n we_o then_o be_v not_o here_o great_a diffidence_n in_o the_o father_n when_o they_o have_v more_o confidence_n in_o our_o say_n then_o their_o write_n but_o this_o juggle_n will_v not_o serve_v the_o turn_n take_v up_o the_o essential_o of_o popery_n and_o prove_v a_o catholic_n succession_n of_o they_o and_o you_o shall_v win_v the_o day_n in_o explication_n of_o my_o former_a profession_n i_o here_o again_o solemn_o promise_v and_o protest_v that_o when_o ever_o i_o see_v a_o valid_a proof_n of_o a_o catholic_n succession_n of_o these_o follow_v point_n i_o will_v present_o turn_n papist_n or_o of_o any_o one_o of_o they_o i_o will_v take_v up_o that_o one_o and_o i_o provoke_v the_o papist_n that_o boast_v of_o tradition_n succession_n and_o antiquity_n to_o do_v this_o if_o they_o be_v able_a 1._o let_v they_o prove_v a_o catholic_n succession_n or_o continuation_n of_o this_o point_n that_o the_o pope_n of_o rome_n be_v appoint_v by_o christ_n to_o be_v the_o universal_a monarch_n sovereign_a governor_n head_n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n and_o the_o vicar_n of_o christ_n on_o earth_n and_o hold_v the_o place_n of_o god_n himself_o who_o all_o must_v obey_v 2._o and_o that_o the_o true_a and_o only_a catholic_n church_n be_v a_o society_n thus_o head_v and_o govern_v by_o the_o pope_n and_o that_o no_o man_n be_v a_o true_a member_n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n that_o be_v