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A91516 The right religion, reviewed and inlarged / by L.P. Gent. L. P., Gent. 1658 (1658) Wing P74C; ESTC R181384 42,130 187

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to observe the unjustness of sectaries who impute easiness to Catholiques avouching that according to their Religion a bare confession of sinns to a Preist pacifies and appeases God whereas besides confession not to speak of its horridness a verseness to nature they hold as necessary all the other above mentioned Acts that if any one bee wanting their confessions become invalid and sacrilegious Above all their strangeness breakes out in their complaint of uneveness in their way as though it were such a matter to believe Christes merits who is the source and fountain of all worth or to have a confidence in God whose goodness trascends all that can be sinne and yet this is the very quintessence of their requisites to reconciliation with God albeit their sinnes should swell to drown in loudness the cryes of Sodome and Gomorrha CHAP. 13. Of the Spirit of Spiritists 1. THe spirit of God in God is as God every where I fill heaven and earth Jer. 23. So as in this sense none can be absent from his essence presence nor vertue But the question runs of the effects thereof which depending upon his will are confined within narrower limits This truth appears bright in St Iohn where he forbiddeth to give credit to every spirit Jo. 1.4 To deny that the spirit of God is active fruitfull in some were to fall into another extream and in effect to call Gods goodness mercy in question to know and discern who they be the onely way is to see their warrant and examine their works If their warrant prove that of Miracles and their workes good doubtless they have the favour of Gods spirit if otherwise they are at the best but pretence makers and ushers of innovation 2. This way must needes be true and sure because Christ and Saint Paul taught it and it stands with right reason for bare sayings without proof are sounds of want and emptiness and the capacity of every Agent being to produce effects like it self it is as impossible for the spirit of God that is all goodness to be the author of ill as for a reasonable creature to beget an unreasonable or heat to cause cold Whence it is plain that the spirit of Spiritists is a false imposture a meer figment and delusion in as much as it is destitute of Miracles and induceth to ill it perswading a disloyall defection from our Lords Prayer the Commandements and Church Bucer in Mat. 6. Calvin in Mat. 6. Luther de Moyse Zuinglius in explan art 16. Tindal in Fox his acts pa. 140. edit An. 1610. in the consonancy and dissonancy to which consist the goodness and badness of all Actions All actions being good or bad according as they are conform or difforme to Gods known will which is apparently manifested in the aforesaid Hereto adde that the spirit of Spiritists prompteth things contrary and imconsistent each with other Lutherans assert the reallity of Christs ' body Zuinglians maintain a bare figure Calvinists differ from both which cannot befall the spirit of God for so the spirit of truth might become the spirit of Errour and falshood 3. To say that God is no excepter of persons that his spirit being free may breath on whom he pleaseth is out of the matter in hand here being no dispute of Gods power what he may doe but of his will what he doth Their other ground for inspiration upon the assurance of Conscience St Paul and St Austin convinced long since of weakness and cozenage St Paul when for yielding to Conscience in persecuting the primitive Christians he acknowledged himself unworthy of the name of an Apostle 1 Cor. 15. St Austin when he sharpned his pen against Manichisme which before in obedience to Conscience he upheld and defended Conscience can have no greater certainty than the understanding that gave it being and the understanding experience teacheth to be so bad an aymer that in the search of truth it oftner misses than hits CHAP. 14. Of the Spiritists Rule of faith 1 THe Rule of faith may be considered in it self or in respect of us in it self it is Gods revealed truth in respect of us it is the same truth expressed to us Thus far Catholiques and Spiritists agree their difference is about the expression These holding that it is that of their private spirit joyned to that of Scripture onely Those that it is that of the Church Scripture bearing witness of her truth This latter is clear by what hath been already said in the third Chapter and will appear yet more by disproving the former Which for the first part that it is false and spurious Saint Peter gives evidence point-blank 2. Pet. 1. No interpretation of Scripture by private spirit Saint Paul speakes to the same effect where he wisheth 2. Cor. 10. to captivate the understanding to the obedience of faith And our Saviour confirms both testimonies obliging all under pain of damnation Mat. 18.17 to believe the Church If the Church be to sway every private spirit must stoop and obey for none can serve two Masters Luke 16. 2. For the second that it is deficient Scripture attesteth referring to the Church and reason makes it good For as much as the expression Faith requires ought to be as full and ample as the duty of Faith that is it must be able to informe the understanding in all it stands bound to give assent unto wherein the expression of Scripture alone is defective it not declaring sundry pointes Christians acknowledge themselves bound to believe To wit that those bookes of Scripture which are received for Canonicall are so indeed That some are Canonicall other some Apocryphall That they are determinately these or others That the Jewes Sabaoth is to be neglected and laid aside and the Sunday solemnized That the Creed is authenticke and truely the Apostles That it is lawfull to eate stra●gled meates and blood But these men please themselves with onely talke of Scripture for were Scripture as they pretend the Rule of their beliefe though it containes divers truths yet those truths meeting and becoming one in Revelation they would all perfectly agree not onely Lutherans among themselves Calvinists among themselves but likewise Lutherans with Zuinglians and Calvinists with both it being the propertie of unity to unite and make one all that conforme to the same Whereas happening quite contrary it is a manifest signe that fancy under specious pretences of Scripture the Spirit is the great Idol they do homage to Lutherans to Luthers Zuinglians to Zuinglius and Calvinists to Calvin CHAP. 15. Of the Protestant Church Protestants cast a fairer shine than the Spiritists and certes were their Church as true as it is seeming they could not be justly taxed But all is not gold that glisters Satan is apt to transforme himselfe into an Angell of light 2. Cor. 11. Falshood it self is not seldome seen in the habiliments of truth and therefore this Chapter pretends to lay open the many
than that there are white fowle therefore they are swans whiteness belonging as well to Geese Ducks Pigeons c. Yet there are Bishops and Pastours therefore they are visible holds good as there are swans therefore they are white fowl in asmuch as visibility agreeth necessarily to Bishops and Pastours as whiteness doth to swans 3. It will be said Divers Bishops and Pastours have been whose names are not extant therefore Bishops and Pastours have no stricter relation to visibility than private men Repl. Bishops and Pastours are necessarily visible either indeterminately or determinately indeterminately all for some are necessary to make a visible Church determinately so many without which there could not be a sufficient number to make a true visible Church Even as Ships in respect of passing the Sea all are necessary either indeterminately or determinately indeterminately all some being necessary to pass with determinately so many without which the Sea is not to be passed Wherefore as the Antecedent is true the Sequell is false Bishops and Pastours having either indeterminately or determinately a necessary Reference to this sort of visibility private men onely an accidentall 4 It will be said Bishops and Pastours are necessarily visible whil'st they live dead that necessity ceaseth Repl. Such a visibility would be to no purpose it not providing the Church of means to defend and make good her right in case of opposition for the question of lawfulness in Bishops and Pastours and of their truth in point of Doctrine soaring as high as Christ commonly be satisfied by a shewing of equall rise which supposeth a visibility reaching from Christ to the end of the World as power to the Act. The question of the Churches Right is to be decided not unlike that of two great men laying claim to a Principality by vertue of some pretended descent from a certain Prince or to that of 〈◊〉 River whether it hath its of●●ring from such a Hill or Mountain For as to Evidence this the surest way will be to derive their Pedigree and to trace the River up to the Head so to clear that no means more effectuall than to take a view of the ages gliding betwixt Christ and us If Bishops and Pastours be found succeeding each other without intermission it is Evident they are true and Catholick if otherwise they may not escape the brand of usurpation and intrusion 5. The Truth of Doctrine is discernable much after the same manner If it be found to have no way varied but to have kept its own from Christ and the Apostles doubtless it is Orthodox if not most certainly it is new and false In short by the good help of this visibility the Bishops and Pastours of Gods Church together with his Doctrine shine so bright throughout all ages since Christ that who will open their eyes to see and their mouthes to ask may with ease finde whom to obey and what to believe for want of this visibility Sectaries boast they never so much of Antiquity prove but of late creation and their Doctrines fond devises of unsetled and wavering mindes 5. The last shape is That Church is true and Catholick which professeth the Apostles Doctrine clearly delivered in Scripture but the Protestants Church doth this therefore c. ANSWER 1. TRue Doctrine is no mark of a true Church it being to be seen among Schismaticks who for want of Communion are not able to make a true Church Besides Doctrine is as divers as there are divers seeming Churches and so not affording any determinate motion drawes in opposition of a mark of truth to which adde that Doctrine supposeth Bishops and Pastours as the means whereby it is conveyed unto us For Doctrine comes not in the ayre or by infusion but by preaching and teaching of men not only sent inwardly by inspiration but likewise outwardly by ordination or imposition of hands of such as have power as the Priests in the old Law the Apostles and their successors in the new were Exod. 3. Levit. 8. Math. 28. therefore it importeth as much to name Bishops and Pastours before way be given to the mentioning of Doctrine as it is necessary passing from one extreame to another to touch first the middle It is no less untrue that Protestants maintain the Apostles Doctrine delivered in Scripture inasmuch as they cleave to a sense which the words neither do nor can beare without wresting forcing as Dr. Smith late Bishop of Chalcedon hath clearly shewn in his Collation to which I must remit you for avoyding of tedious quotations as opposite to my professed brevity To be of the Apostle belief requires a full and entire admission of what they believed For if belief of some points only were enough to make two of one belief Catholicks and Protestants Turks and Jews might crack of unity in Religion because though they differ in some points yet in other some they consent and agree Now Heaven being a reward only intended and promised where there is a full performance of Duty belief of part of the Apostle Belief is as ineffectuall to Salvation as perseverance for a time which moved St Athan to say that he that did not hold the Catholick Faith intirely should for ever perish And it is agreeable to reason in regard punishment is the reward of contempt offered to Gods Majestie which may be done as by transgressing any one Commandment so by disbelieving any one point Gods Majesty shining no less resplendently in his veracity than in is Will. It will be said Protestants agree with the Apostles in sundamentalls which is sufficient to be of the Apostles belief and to Salvation Repl. There are two sortes of Fundamentalls answerable to the twofold precept of belief affirmative He that believes shall be saved and negative He that doth not believe shall be condemned Mar. 16. The first sort is points to be believed explicitly or in particular as the Trinity the Incarnation c. The second sort is points to be believed at leastwise implicitly or in generall as all points whatsoever relating to belief both are Fundamentalls because both are necessary to Salvation and both are necessary to Salvation because both are equally grounded upon Revelation whence ariseth the necessitie and obligation of belief Now admit it should be granted that Protestants agree with the Apostles in the first sort of Fundamentalls that is in points necessarie to be believed explicitly according to the affirmative precept of belief which may well be a question they not believing them upon account of the Church but for fancie or some other humane respect yet disagreeing in the second sort that is in points necessarie to be believed at leastwise implicitly according to the negative precept of belief How is it true that they do not disagree from the Apostles in fundamentalls It will be said those points Protestants disagree in were not revealed to the Apostles Repl. It is manifest they were there being the same light for the revelation of them