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A03418
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A letter to Mr. T.H. late minister: now fugitiue: from Sir Edvvard Hoby Knight. In answere of his first Motiue
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Hoby, Edward, Sir, 1560-1617.
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1609
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STC 13541; ESTC S104131
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〈◊〉_d apocal._n 23.20_o resurrection_n and_o the_o full_a
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reputation_n blaze_v indeed_o your_o own_o shame_n i_o hope_v you_o will_v now_o give_v he_o leave_v to_o borrow_v the_o say_n of_o s._n paul_n 6.17_o paul_n galath_n 6.17_o de_fw-fr caetero_fw-la nemo_fw-la sit_fw-la mihi_fw-la molestus_fw-la he_o now_o rest_v in_o peace_n have_v leave_v behind_o he_o not_o only_o the_o happy_a memory_n of_o a_o bless_a life_n but_o also_o so_o many_o oblige_a friend_n who_o will_v never_o suffer_v any_o of_o his_o elaborate_a line_n to_o be_v blur_v with_o wrongful_a disgrace_n especial_o by_o those_o who_o with_o a_o catalogue_n of_o great_a name_n with_o ponderation_n and_o consideration_n think_v to_o beard_v the_o truth_n 4.41_o truth_n 1._o esd_v 4.41_o magna_fw-la est_fw-la veritas_fw-la &_o praevalet_fw-la it_o be_v not_o one_o strain_a scripture_n that_o can_v support_v the_o decline_a weight_n of_o decay_a purgatory_n it_o will_v ask_v more_o reparation_n than_o the_o book_n of_o god_n will_v willing_o bestow_v upon_o it_o purgatory_n you_o 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