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assertive_a of_o your_o practice_n and_o who_o pronounce_v all_o man_n unworthy_a of_o christian-communion_n who_o be_v not_o as_o positive_a and_o assertive_a as_o yourselves_o but_o alas_o mountain_n and_o rock_n be_v not_o so_o easy_a remove_v by_o babe_n and_o suckling_n and_o puff_v away_o with_o a_o breath_n sect_n lxxiii_o the_o 19_o consideration_n be_v as_o you_o say_v the_o same_o with_o the_o 8_o you_o pass_v over_o with_o reference_n to_o your_o answer_n thereunto_o and_o so_o do_v i_o with_o reference_n to_o my_o reply_n to_o that_o answer_n and_o if_o that_o 19_o consideration_n be_v nineteen_o time_n put_v upon_o your_o thought_n it_o will_v be_v too_o little_a for_o you_o to_o withstand_v the_o due_a weight_n and_o import_n thereof_o mr._n goodwin_n 20._o consideration_n be_v to_o
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christ_n to_o express_v the_o obligation_n of_o the_o jew_n to_o the_o law_n of_o moses_n 1_o cor._n 10.2_o and_o be_v all_o baptise_a unto_o moses_n sect_n xxxvi_o herein_o i_o confess_v that_o in_o my_o judgement_n you_o speak_v after_o reply_v infancy_n mr._n lamb_n by_o consequent_n grant_v that_o child_n do_v capable_a subject_n of_o baptism_n notwithstanding_o theio_fw-la infancy_n or_o according_a unto_o the_o oracle_n of_o god_n and_o the_o analogy_n of_o faith_n for_o if_o circumcision_n bind_v man_n that_o be_v those_o that_o be_v partaker_n of_o it_o who_o be_v child_n in_o their_o infancy_n as_o well_o as_o man_n of_o ripe_a year_n if_o i_o say_v circumcision_n bind_v the_o subject_n thereof_o who_o be_v child_n as_o well_o as_o man_n to_o keep_v the_o law_n of_o moses_n why_o shall_v not_o baptism_n bind_v they_o to_o keep_v the_o law_n of_o christ_n for_o if_o circumcision_n take_v or_o receive_v by_o child_n at_o eight_o day_n old_a do_v bind_v these_o child_n when_o they_o come_v to_o year_n of_o discretion_n to_o keep_v the_o law_n of_o moses_n what_o tolerable_a shadow_n or_o show_v of_o reason_n can_v be_v give_v why_o that_o baptism_n administer_v now_o unto_o child_n shall_v not_o also_o bind_v they_o all_o the_o after-daye_n of_o their_o life_n to_o keep_v the_o law_n of_o christ_n i_o very_o much_o honour_n and_o approve_v of_o your_o orthodoxism_n in_o this_o point_n at_o this_o turn_n you_o proceed_v further_o the_o design_n of_o christ_n be_v to_o affect_v the_o heart_n by_o the_o will_n of_o god_n see_v in_o the_o ordinance_n of_o baptism_n lamb._n mr._n lamb._n as_o well_o as_o hear_v in_o the_o word_n preach_v etc._n etc._n sect_n xxxvii_o to_o grant_v you_o this_o also_o in_o a_o due_a and_o qualify_a sense_n be_v but_o to_o grant_v you_o out_o of_o the_o abundance_n of_o our_o own_o apprehension_n in_o the_o truth_n thereof_o these_o holy_a design_n of_o christ_n in_o baptism_n reply_v be_v as_o effectual_o bring_v about_o and_o his_o heavenly_a hand_n have_v find_v out_o his_o enterprise_n herein_o by_o baptism_n administer_v unto_o infant_n as_o by_o the_o administration_n of_o it_o unto_o other_o at_o age_n your_o four_o first_o consideration_n premise_v you_o advance_v to_o the_o five_o this_o be_v the_o plain_a design_n of_o christ_n in_o the_o ordinance_n lamb._n mr._n lamb._n i_o consider_v infants-sprinckling_a which_o ordinary_o go_v for_o baptism_n and_o find_v the_o great_a design_n of_o christ_n in_o a_o manner_n frustrate_v by_o it_o because_o there_o be_v no_o sign_n or_o figure_n of_o any_o such_o thing_n as_o death_n burial_n and_o resurrection_n and_o consequent_o not_o that_o sermon_n of_o the_o gospel_n which_o christ_n intend_v to_o make_v by_o it_o as_o be_v most_o evident_a by_o scripture_n which_o palpable_o discover_v it_o to_o be_v a_o humane_a invention_n sect_n xxxviii_o it_o seem_v you_o take_v infant-sprinckling_a call_v baptism_n reply_v into_o your_o consideration_n as_o the_o 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here_o to_o evince_v that_o it_o be_v the_o express_a command_n will_n and_o pleasure_n of_o god_n that_o baptism_n must_v be_v by_o the_o total_a immersion_n of_o the_o subject_n of_o baptism_n by_o bury_v and_o dip_v he_o in_o the_o water_n and_o that_o every_o other_o manner_n of_o baptise_v be_v a_o nullity_n and_o mere_a babism_n and_o vanity_n these_o text_n speak_v of_o the_o bless_a fruit_n benefit_n and_o consequence_n of_o baptism_n not_o of_o the_o manner_n of_o baptise_v all_o that_o they_o say_v be_v this_o that_o in_o or_o by_o baptism_n be_v the_o manner_n what_o it_o will_v we_o be_v bury_v with_o christ_n that_o be_v we_o have_v a_o bless_a fellowship_n with_o christ_n jesus_n in_o his_o death_n burial_n and_o resurrection_n god_n make_v a_o bless_a coâ—â—enant_n with_o we_o in_o baptism_n and_o we_o with_o he_o that_o through_o the_o death_n burial_n and_o resurrection_n of_o christ_n he_o be_v become_v we_o and_o we_o be_v become_v he_o that_o as_o he_o die_v be_v 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