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the_o point_n that_o they_o be_v in_o a_o decline_a condition_n that_o some_o of_o they_o go_v to_o mass_n what_o then_o be_v they_o against_o infant-baptism_n before_o they_o decline_v and_o do_v they_o take_v up_o the_o practice_n with_o the_o mass_n i_o believe_v mr._n danvers_n do_v not_o think_v it_o and_o he_o know_v very_o well_o they_o recover_v out_o of_o this_o apostasy_n after_o they_o have_v receive_v those_o godly_a admonition_n from_o oecolampadius_n and_o bucer_n and_o be_v confirm_v in_o the_o truth_n and_o give_v proof_n thereof_o by_o their_o suffering_n in_o the_o violent_a persecution_n which_o happen_v soon_o after_o and_o be_v more_o rage_a than_o ever_o there_o be_v one_o confession_n more_o which_o mr._n danvers_n invention_n will_v not_o serve_v he_o to_o say_v any_o thing_n against_o and_o therefore_o silent_o pretermit_v it_o and_o it_o be_v that_o of_o angrogne_n in_o the_o year_n 1535._o where_o a_o assembly_n of_o the_o waldenses_n from_o all_o the_o valley_n meet_v and_o there_o they_o signify_v what_o they_o understand_v of_o their_o brethren_n of_o provence_n and_o dauphine_n namely_o that_o they_o send_v into_o germany_n their_o pastor_n to_o confer_v with_o oecolampadius_n and_o bucer_n touch_v the_o belief_n they_o have_v time_n out_o of_o mind_n where_o say_v perin_n in_o his_o history_n of_o the_o waldenses_n lib._n 2._o cap._n 4._o pag._n 57_o when_o they_o have_v read_v certain_a letter_n of_o encouragement_n send_v from_o oecolampadius_n to_o those_o of_o provence_n conclude_v on_o certain_a article_n as_o be_v conformable_a to_o the_o doctrine_n which_o have_v be_v teach_v from_o father_n to_o son_n for_o these_o many_o hundred_o year_n out_o of_o the_o word_n of_o god_n and_o art_n 17_o be_v for_o infants-baptism_n thus_o touch_v thematter_v of_o the_o sacrament_n it_o have_v be_v conclude_v by_o the_o h._n scripture_n that_o we_o have_v two_o sacramental_a sign_n the_o which_o christ_n jesus_n have_v leave_v unto_o we_o the_o one_o be_v baptism_n the_o other_o the_o eucharist_n which_o we_o receive_v to_o show_v what_o our_o perservance_n in_o the_o faith_n be_v as_o we_o have_v promise_v when_o we_o be_v baptize_v be_v little_a one_o this_o expression_n as_o we_o have_v promise_v when_o we_o be_v baptize_v be_v little_a one_o mr._n danvers_n tell_v we_o 2d_o ed._n pag._n 313._o be_v foist_v into_o the_o article_n though_o impertinent_a and_o nonsensical_a because_o a_o infant_n be_v not_o capable_a to_o make_v a_o promise_n but_o i_o do_v judge_n mr._n danvers_n the_o fit_a in_o the_o world_n to_o determine_v what_o be_v impertinent_a and_o nonsensical_a and_o as_o wiseman_n as_o he_o or_o any_o of_o his_o party_n have_v affirm_v the_o same_o and_o therefore_o that_o do_v not_o prove_v it_o to_o be_v foist_v in_o for_o instance_n the_o assembly_n in_o their_o large_a catechism_n tell_v we_o that_o baptism_n be_v a_o sacrament_n etc._n etc._n whereby_o the_o party_n baptize_v be_v solemn_o admit_v into_o the_o visible_a church_n and_o enter_v into_o a_o open_a and_o profess_a engagement_n to_o be_v whole_o and_o only_o the_o lord_n and_o in_o their_o very_a next_o answer_n tell_v we_o the_o infant_n of_o believer_n be_v to_o be_v baptize_v and_o dr._n manton_n in_o the_o supplement_n to_o the_o morning_n exercise_n serm._n 10._o tell_v we_o that_o baptism_n be_v a_o open_a and_o real_a profession_n of_o christ_n crucify_v and_o that_o we_o must_v personal_o and_o solemn_o own_o the_o covenant_n make_v with_o god_n in_o infancy_n and_o many_o more_o i_o can_v produce_v if_o need_n be_v speaking_z after_o this_o manner_n that_o yet_o understand_v themselves_o as_o well_o as_o mr._n danvers_n and_o why_o may_v we_o not_o suppose_v these_o waldenses_n to_o be_v guilty_a of_o as_o much_o impertinency_n and_o nonsensicalness_n as_o the_o assembly_n and_o dr._n manton_n 2._o his_o 2d_o demonstration_n as_o he_o call_v it_o be_v from_o particular_a eminent_a person_n among_o they_o which_o he_o will_v have_v we_o believe_v deny_v infants-baptism_n as_o berengarius_fw-la in_o the_o 11_o cent._n peter_n bruis_n henricus_n and_o arnoldus_fw-la in_o the_o 12_o 1._o for_o berengarius_fw-la he_o go_v about_o to_o prove_v that_o he_o deny_v infant-baptism_n from_o lanifrank_n by_o cassander_n out_o of_o guitmond_n by_o a_o council_n call_v by_o h._n 1._o of_o france_n and_o by_o thuanus_n and_o then_o say_v that_o i_o except_v against_o none_o of_o these_o but_o have_v this_o only_a for_o a_o reply_n that_o there_o be_v several_a council_n in_o which_o berengarius_fw-la be_v persecute_v for_o the_o real_a presence_n but_o no_o mention_n make_v of_o his_o deny_v infants-baptism_n see_v this_o general_a reply_n do_v not_o give_v mr._n danvers_n satisfaction_n i_o shall_v now_o be_v more_o particular_a and_o convince_v he_o he_o have_v better_o have_v take_v that_o answer_n than_o thus_o force_v i_o to_o a_o more_o particular_a examination_n by_o which_o i_o have_v make_v a_o further_a discovery_n of_o his_o guilt_n in_o abuse_v author_n he_o begin_v with_o launifrank_a to_o prove_v beringarius_n against_o infant-baptism_n and_o he_o tell_v we_o 2._o ed._n p._n 241_o 242_o out_o of_o the_o magdeb._n cent._n 11._o cap._n 5._o p._n 240_o 243._o that_o beringarius_n do_v public_o deny_v transubstantiation_n and_o infant-baptism_n under_o five_o head_n which_o launifrank_n in_o his_o book_n call_v scintillaris_n answer_v at_o large_a and_o as_o for_o his_o deny_v infant-baptism_n he_o answer_v that_o be_v launifrank_n by_o say_v he_o that_o be_v beringarius_n do_v thereby_o oppose_v the_o general_a doctrine_n and_o universal_a consent_n of_o the_o church_n and_o this_o be_v all_o mr._n danvers_n have_v from_o launifrank_a to_o prove_v beringarius_n against_o infant-baptism_n but_o this_o be_v a_o shameful_a mistake_n and_o the_o magdeburg_n say_v no_o such_o thing_n they_o give_v we_o his_o hypothesis_n de_fw-fr caenâ_fw-la domini_fw-la and_o his_o 6_o argument_n against_o transubstantiation_n and_o launifrank_n answer_n to_o each_o and_o tell_v we_o that_o
consideration_n that_o in_o this_o century_n tertullian_n persuade_v to_o defer_v both_o the_o baptism_n of_o child_n and_o other_o who_o be_v of_o age_n do_v thereby_o intimate_v that_o it_o be_v the_o custom_n of_o the_o church_n at_o that_o time_n to_o baptise_v the_o one_o as_o well_o as_o the_o other_o otherwise_o there_o be_v no_o reason_n why_o he_o shall_v desire_v that_o they_o will_v defer_v the_o one_o as_o well_o as_o the_o other_o concern_v tradition_n which_o mr._n danvers_n say_v be_v the_o principal_a ground_n that_o have_v be_v urge_v for_o infants-baptism_n with_o a_o answer_n thereto_o sect._n 2._o to_o make_v out_o this_o he_o quote_v austin_n who_o call_v it_o a_o apostolical_a tradition_n to_o which_o i_o say_v in_o my_o answer_n that_o ancient_o the_o great_a point_n of_o faith_n be_v by_o the_o father_n name_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d so_o they_o be_v call_v by_o the_o apostle_n 2_o thes._n 2._o 15._o which_o be_v all_o one_o with_o divine_a doctrine_n or_o ordinance_n for_o so_o the_o word_n be_v render_v 1_o cor._n 11._o 2._o and_o to_o make_v this_o more_o full_o appear_v the_o magdiburgs_n tell_v we_o that_o bazil_n call_v the_o manner_n of_o baptise_v in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o father_n son_n and_o holy_a ghost_n a_o tradition_n by_o which_o he_o mean_v the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o lord_n christ._n magd._n cent._n 4._o c._n 4._o p._n 235._o egregie_n &_o basilius_n hâc_fw-la de_fw-la re_fw-la scribit_fw-la lib._n 3._o contra_fw-la eunomium_fw-la baptismus_fw-la noster_fw-la est_fw-la secundum_fw-la traditionem_fw-la domini_fw-la in_o nomine_fw-la patris_fw-la etc._n etc._n that_o be_v our_o baptism_n be_v according_a to_o the_o tradition_n of_o the_o lord_n in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o father_n etc._n etc._n again_o bazil_n in_o his_o book_n de_fw-fr spiritu_fw-la sancto_fw-la by_o tradition_n mean_v the_o scripture_n as_o hermannus_n hamelmannus_fw-la observe_v de_fw-la tradit_fw-la apost_n &_o tacitis_fw-la p._n 355._o certum_fw-la est_fw-la quod_fw-la basilius_n per_fw-la vocabulum_fw-la traditionis_fw-la aliquando_fw-la scripturam_fw-la intelligit_fw-la it_o be_v certain_a that_o bazil_n do_v sometime_o understand_v by_o the_o word_n tradition_n the_o scripture_n for_o so_o he_o speak_v to_o amphilochius_n in_o his_o 10_o chapter_n of_o the_o abovementioned_a book_n of_o the_o holy-spirit_n hanc_fw-la traditionem_fw-la quae_fw-la i_o perduxit_fw-la ad_fw-la lucem_fw-la ac_fw-la dei_fw-la cognitionem_fw-la largita_fw-la est_fw-la etc._n etc._n if_o austin_n then_o mean_v the_o same_o that_o bazil_n do_v by_o tradition_n viz._n the_o scripture_n he_o say_v true_a when_o he_o tell_v we_o that_o infants-baptism_n be_v not_o to_o be_v believe_v unless_o it_o be_v a_o apostolical_a tradition_n and_o although_o he_o intend_v the_o word_n otherwise_o in_o that_o famous_a speech_n of_o he_o in_o his_o four_o book_n against_o the_o donatist_n chap._n 24._o which_o mr._n danvers_n do_v ill_a in_o curtail_v namely_o that_o if_o any_o do_v inquire_v for_o a_o divine_a authority_n for_o the_o baptise_v child_n let_v they_o know_v what_o the_o universal_a church_n hold_v nor_o be_v institute_v in_o council_n but_o always_o retain_v be_v most_o right_o believe_v to_o have_v be_v deliver_v by_o no_o other_o than_o by_o apostolical_a authority_n to_o which_o this_o be_v add_v in_o the_o next_o word_n tamen_fw-la veraciter_fw-la conjicere_fw-la possumus_fw-la quid_fw-la valeat_fw-la in_o parvulis_fw-la baptismi_fw-la sacramentum_fw-la ex_fw-la circumcisione_n carnis_fw-la quam_fw-la prio_fw-la populus_fw-la accepit_fw-la that_o be_v nevertheless_o we_o may_v conjecture_v how_o much_o the_o sacrament_n of_o baptism_n be_v available_a to_o child_n by_o the_o circumcision_n of_o the_o flesh_n which_o the_o former_a people_n receive_v his_o next_o instance_n be_v from_o bellarmin_n that_o it_o be_v a_o apostolical_a tradition_n etc._n etc._n but_o mr._n danvers_n be_v not_o ignorant_a that_o 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