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A37367 A Short surveigh of the grand case of the present ministry whether they may lawfully subscribe and declare as by the late Act of uniformity is required, and the several cases thence arising, especially about the covenant / by some conformable non-conformists. M. D. 1663 (1663) Wing D64; ESTC R14722 29,525 48

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form or manner of Ordination and Consecration This requiring our unfeigned Assent and consent which we unfeignedly profess we cannot give 11. But Sir You have hit the white in your conjecture that the first part of this Declaration is that which sticketh with us Pa. 5 viz. that which concerneth the Book of Common Prayer Sect 5. and is thus expressed I. A. B. Do declare my unfeigned Assent and Consent to all and everything contained and prescribed in and by the Book Entituled The Book of Common-Prayer c. For Sir although we could have conformed we could not Pag 6 nor considering what you have said can we yet make and subscribe this Declaration Sect 7 though we are not like Children affrighted with a long Title we are not in judgement satisfied to declare concerning the Book what is required 12. We Sir embrace your Suada and will not set an edge on the wordes to wound our selves yet we must say your gloss doth not so much as dull the edge your self hath put upon the words you tell us the Object of our Assent and Consent is not the words but things there are several expressions which though we could safely read yet we do not so heartily approvē them as we seem to be required not every thing as there expressed but every thing contained in the expressions must have our Assent 13. Sir We must be bold to tell you our Controversie is about Wordy things a Liturgy a Rubrick a Forme of Prayer and the like The question is whether these be right words to be pronounced and a fit form to be used that in our Ministry we may be bound couse these and none other and as such Sir your things are words and matters expressed is the Mode of expression to which our Consent and Assent must be yielded the Assent to a Creed may have the matter expressed for its object but Assent and Consent to a Common Prayer Book hath no adaequate object but the Mode Words Expressions Forms to be used and pronounced though Sir we could Minister in and by some such Expressions we must be well advised before we declare an unfeigned Assent and Consent thereunto The Nonconformaists geneally allow the matter of Doctrine or Petition in the Common Prayer expressed and contained and have ever quarrelled the Mode as not a full and fit wordy Direction or determination of the ministration directed in and by it 14. But Sir admitting your gloss some things contained in such expressions signified by such words are such to which we cannot Assent nor consent For Instance in the Absolution a word is altered which we conceive hath altered the thing Wherefore we beseech him to grant us true Repentance c. In the old Book is a formal Prayer but let us Beseech him in the new book seemeth to alter it into an authoritative Sacerdotal absolution which we are not convinced to be a standing peice of solemn Worship in every approach to God or into a Ministerial exhortation of the people and then not to stick at the impertinent Amen of the people thereto subjoyned we are to be convinced that the words of the Lords Prayer are the necessary and only lawful Petition for pardon of sin in every approach to God yet that is constantly subjoyned 15. Again Sir Answer in the Rubrick is a word but the direction of popular responds the Invitation Accompany me with an humble voice Analeps Analepth Pa. 58. and say after me the different Characters in the Petitionary part of the Letany and Decalogue are directions for popular Conclamations all which be not offended if we tell you in Mr. Croftons Dialect is so directly repugnant to the Apostles rule Let all things be done decently and in order who in the case of extraordinary immediate Elolitions of the spirit allowed the people no more save an audible Amen That we dare not assent nor consent to things contained in these words 16 Again Sir Holy is an adjunct to Table frequent in this book and signifieth a Thing which we cannot admit we know no holiness o● places or Instruments under the Gospel yet will contend that such be handsome Sir Mr. Crofton whom you specially assault hath to our knowledge opposed the Prophane neglect contempt and abuse of the Churches Irreverend unmannerly usage of the Table reserved for the Ministration of the Lords Supper and the Consecration of Churches holiness of Table● with an equal vigor 17. Again Sir The corrupt Translation of the Psalter or Psalmes of David pointed unto manifest non-sence to be sung or said in Churches varying the Text from the Original yea from the truth it self rendring it contrary thereunto in those several particulars excepted against by the Non-conformists whose loud and long clamour would have engaged the correction of errors so gross and obvious yet even these things are retained and returned as things contained in and prescribed by this Common Prayer book and to which we must declare our unfeigned assent and consent To this Sir we may and must add the corrupt Translation of the fourth Commandement wherefore the Lord blessed the seventh day and hallowed it contrary to the Original Text the Bible Translation and the prudent correction thereof made in the book prepared for and sent into Scotland by our late Prelates Though Sir we could submissively beare these things our Reformation not being at the first perfect yet before we declare our unfeigned assent and consent to such words speaking things so falsely we must have a better Argument then this you are not concerned in the Expressions which expressions are manifest directions and significations wilfully retayned and severely imposed after and against undeniable exceptions and earnest Petitions for Reformation 18. Give us leave to add one more viz. those words in Baptisme It is certain by Gods word that Children being Baptized dying before they commit actual sin are undoubtedly saved 19. Sir it is true these are but words and an expression but these words contain in them a Position and Doctrine asserted with the certainty of an Article of Faith to which we cannot consent we can Christianly beleive the Regenerating Nature Use and efficacy of Baptisme and charitably hope the salvation of such who die subjected thereunto but that the undoubted salvation of all baptized Infants dying before they commit actual sin is ortain by the Scriptures We confess we cannot see nor do we beleive we do beleive Gods Soveraign Election and Reprobation of persons The Scripture doth declare God loved Jacob and hated Esau the Children being not yet born much less Baptized nor having done good or evil that the purpose of God might stand according to Election not of works that all who pass under the administration of a saving Saving Ordinance are Undoubtedly saved is not cleare from Scripture but rather the contrary things that are revealed belong unto us and to our Children 19. We cannot but hope you will in a second