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A31663 An impartial account of the Portsmouth disputation with some just reflections on Dr. Russel's pretended narrative : with an abrigdment of those discourses that were the innocent occasion of that disputation / by Samuel Chandler, William Leigh, Benjamin Robinson. Chandler, Samuel.; Leigh, William.; Robinson, Benjamin, 1666-1724. 1699 (1699) Wing C1933; ESTC R24745 96,620 125

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among_o they_o whether_o their_o child_n shall_v be_v circumcise_a acts._n 21.21_o now_o if_o their_o child_n be_v whole_o cast_v out_o of_o covenant_n this_o will_v have_v enrage_v they_o much_o more_o see_v therefore_o there_o be_v not_o one_o word_n in_o scripture_n that_o once_o mention_n the_o unchurch_a of_o infant_n not_o one_o apostle_n that_o once_o question_n or_o discover_v it_o the_o believe_a jew_n do_v not_o once_o scruple_n it_o nor_o the_o unbelieving_a once_o charge_v it_o on_o christ_n nor_o the_o council_n in_o act_n 15._o reveal_v it_o though_o they_o that_o teach_v infant_n shall_v be_v circumcise_a do_v suppose_v they_o be_v church-member_n i_o say_v see_v all_o these_o thing_n be_v true_a infant_n be_v church-member_n still_o and_o consequent_o aught_o to_o be_v baptise_a 6._o there_o be_v example_n of_o whole_a household_n that_o be_v baptise_a in_o scripture_n and_o we_o may_v well_o conclude_v as_o abraham_n child_n in_o luk._n 19.9_o christ_n say_v to_o zaccheus_n salvation_n be_v come_v to_o this_o house_n for_o that_o he_o also_o be_v the_o son_n of_o abraham_n zaceheus_fw-la be_v a_o publican_n and_o a_o gatherer_n of_o the_o roman_a tribute_n and_o perhaps_o a_o gentile_a but_o upon_o his_o faith_n in_o christ_n he_o become_v a_o spiritual_a son_n of_o abraham_n and_o salvation_n come_v not_o only_o to_o himself_o but_o his_o house_n god_n become_v a_o god_n to_o he_o and_o he_o so_o when_o we_o read_v of_o so_o many_o households_n baptise_a upon_o the_o parent_n and_o master_n believe_v we_o have_v reason_n to_o conclude_v their_o infant_n be_v baptise_a as_o abraham_n and_o his_o be_v circumcise_a 7._o there_o be_v no_o instance_n of_o any_o christian_a child_n who_o baptism_n be_v defer_v still_o he_o come_v to_o year_n there_o be_v great_a reason_n that_o they_o who_o have_v be_v jew_n or_o heathen_n before_o shall_v upon_o their_o undertake_n christianity_n be_v baptise_a at_o year_n as_o abraham_n at_o the_o first_o 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parent_n faith_n as_o the_o infant_n of_o believe_a jew_n so_o be_v the_o infant_n of_o christian_n nor_o be_v this_o at_o all_o unreasonable_a for_o as_o infant_n contract_v gild_n from_o their_o parent_n why_o may_v they_o not_o also_o partake_v of_o mercy_n on_o account_n of_o their_o parent_n except_o god_n be_v more_o incline_v to_o act_n of_o justice_n than_o mercy_n as_o many_o be_v heal_v of_o their_o bodily_a disease_n by_o the_o faith_n of_o their_o parent_n math._n 15.28_o so_o why_o may_v they_o not_o be_v admit_v into_o god_n church_n on_o the_o same_o account_n as_o the_o jewish_a infant_n covenant_v with_o god_n in_o and_o by_o their_o parent_n deut._n 29.11.12_o so_o why_o may_v not_o christian_n infant_n covenant_n in_o and_o by_o they_o as_o child_n be_v say_v to_o come_v to_o christ_n be_v bring_v in_o the_o arm_n of_o their_o nurse_n or_o parent_n luk._n 18.15.16_o so_o why_o may_v they_o not_o be_v say_v spiritual_o to_o come_v to_o christ_n in_o the_o arm_n of_o 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the_o ordinance_n as_o a_o solemn_a entrance_n into_o the_o church_n shall_v be_v save_v bu●_n those_o that_o wilful_o persist_v in_o unbelief_n shall_v be_v damn_v so_o that_o this_o be_v no_o prejudice_n to_o infant_n who_o be_v still_o in_o covenant_n with_o god_n through_o their_o parent_n faith_n and_o be_v never_o cast_v out_o i_o proceed_v to_o the_o 2d_o general_n question_n after_o what_o manner_n the_o outward_a element_n in_o baptism_n aught_o to_o be_v apply_v whether_o by_o dip_v or_o plunge_v the_o whole_a body_n under_o water_n or_o whether_o pour_v water_n on_o the_o face_n be_v not_o sufficient_a to_o which_o i_o answer_v 1._o it_o be_v not_o absolute_o necessary_a that_o this_o ordinance_n shall_v be_v administer_v by_o dip_v or_o plunge_v the_o whole_a body_n under_o the_o water_n there_o be_v many_o mistake_a brethren_n lay_v too_o great_a a_o stress_n on_o this_o but_o it_o proceed_v from_o their_o ignorance_n of_o the_o scripture_n 1._o the_o holy_a ghost_n 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