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A13257	A confession of fayth made by common consent of diuers reformed churches beyonde the seas: with an exhortation to the reformation of the Churche. Perused and allowed accordinge to the Queenes Maiesties iniunctions.; Confessio Helvetica Posterior. English.	Bèze, Théodore de, 1519-1605.; Bullinger, Heinrich, 1504-1575.; Old, John, fl. 1545-1555.	1568 (1568)	STC 23554; ESTC S118060	120,110	316

impudēt Munke in thy presence most noble Prince this thing perteineth nothinge to the mysterie of our Saluation For it is sufficient for vs to beleue that whiche is done in déede declared by the Euangelistes that Christe our Sauiour was conceiued by the holy Ghost and borne of the virgine Mary And that the infantes ought to be Baptised that Baptisme may not be reiterate we doo not gether of any bare Tradition without the woorde of God As for those other thinges howe can the holy Scriptures expresse them the which coulde not be established in the Church but that the authoritie of the woorde of God muste firste be ouerthrowen as maye be proued with moste euident reasons But this muche at this present for we doo not vndertake nowe to declare euery particular matter Wherefore I come to that kinde of Traditions whereby Traditions that diminishe somethinge is taken from the doctrine of the woorde of God written as when the one parte of the Supper of the Lorde is taken awaye from the Laye men and when vnto the woordes of Paule that calleth the forbiddynge of mariage and the lawe of forbiddinge of meates the doctrine of Diuels there is added the exception of an aduised vowe and an other generall exceptiō whiche many will haue to be auaileable in all pointes Except it please our Lorde the Pope othervvaies But who Blasphemy I praye you that tendereth the glory of God as he ought to doo can suffer suche cursed sacriledge for assuredly if it be lawfull to take away any thing from that doctrine written then is it necessary that like as these men haue compted the doctrine taught by the holie Ghost a littell before to be haltyng and vnperfecte and to wante somewhat so nowe in other thinges they may say that it is redoundant superfluous neither of the which two things any good mans eares can heare without great offence But yet they saye that no man can denie but that the ceremonies of the lawe are altogether already taken away Howbeit we doo not treate nowe of the rites and ceremonies but of the very substāce of the woorship of God whereof though we doo iudge that Ceremonies of old to haue bene a portiō yet serueth this nothing to defende their bolde sacrilege For what meruell is it though the lawe whiche was made to shadowe those things whiche were hoped for to come at the time apointed did vade and vanish away at the light and sight of the same but if these men bringe against vs that the loue feastes called Agape that Apostolicall decrée of things offered to idols the strangeled was takē away by commen consent the anointinge Apostolical which we haue now abolished I doo answere againe that these are externall thinges of which we shal dispute afterwarde But this we conclude for certaine that the doctrine of Saluatiō conteyned in Gods woorde must be mainteyned safe sounde not onely in the whole substance but in euery the least and smalest parte therof without addition or diminution Now why should we once name or VVicked Traditiōs make mention of that thirde kinde of Traditions which doo either shake the fundations of the Saluatiō by Christ eyther ouerthrowe the thynges that are builte vpon that foundation Such as are the Supremacie of the Bishop of Rome the praying to sainctes prayer for the dead the makyng and the woorshippyng of Idols the Magistrall and Doctorall determinations as thei call them of frée wil of merite of pardons and of such other filthinesse the which thinges séeinge they coulde neuer be established so longe as the authoritie of the Heauenly doctrine stoode vnshaken in his full force so are they ouer impudent whiche doo thinke that these thinges maye be established eyther by the false forged title of the Church or by the prescription length of time Goe to then lette vs conclude this All Catholike Traditions are not alvvaies to be allovved place that they are farre deceyued which thinke that the Catholike rites are of necessitie to be receyued for there be also some Catholike errours whiche haue crepte into the Churche partely by the ignoraunce of many of the Bishops partly by their negligēce partly by their blinde zeale and apishe imitation of others and also by theyr ambition couetousnes but chiefly by the moste gréedy desire of honour which was in the Romish Bishoppes Furthermore wheras in the appointing of Externall rites and ceremonies whiche are perticular may be alvvaies chaūged and muste be abolished vvhen they become superstitious or Idolatrous rites orders wise men alwaies haue had regard to the time place and persons who dothe not sée that they are moste foolishe who in these kinde of thinges when the circumstances are changed will not onely haue nothyng chaunged but also such thinges as are for iuste causes abolished either by the continuāce of time or other waies yet because they are aūcient thei wil haue them to be againe reuoked but what shall we saye of those thinges that are degenerate into the most manifest madnesse of Idolatrie the whiche in that most cursed time whē God was angry with our sinnes did preuaile though a fewe in the beginninge but in vaine did resiste the whiche thinges finally though they were not at this present vtterly polluted yet are they such as can scarsely no not all be kepte pure any longe space But here cometh to my minde the Politike Gentlemē voice of these mē that thinke thēselues most witty of all others which thinke that the Churche ought to be reformed but not transformed And they call the reformation a restorynge agayne of those rites whiche were in vse in the florishyng time of the Church as they terme it takinge awaye some thinges which by the wickednes of times haue bene abused the whiche except we doo receyue they crie that the Churche is transformed and depriued vtterly of hir beautie and comelinesse Surely their woordes haue a greate shewe and a beautifull but it procedeth from the spirite of Satan whiche then bewrayeth it selfe when we come to the matter for thē there is nothyng so shamefull that they dare not couer vnder the colour of antiquitie and obtrude it vnto vs for comely and beautifull Those Rapsodies moste vayne and foolishe written of these matters by G. Cassander that bablynge Apostata with whose name I woulde not defile these papers doo declare these matters How be it I folowynge the example of Kinge Ezekiah so greatly commended had much rather to imitate such which doo Iudge that the offence and daūger that lieth in the high way ought to be abolished and taken away though at sometimes there hath bene or maye be some vse therof rather then to appoint monitores to stande by which may admonish the passengers lest they at vnwares doo fall into suche perilles For what if they that are admonished doo not obey or the Monitors doo not their office Moreouer besides that in many of

foorth as the terrible face of Gorgon what is it els I pray you but a bare visar for if it be vnderstande of the doctrine seyng we haue the woorde writen what néede we any thing vnwriten for surely this vnwriten is more vncertaine thē that writen and no man maye séeke a proofe at the vncertaintie of that whiche is certaine How be it here I doo sée that many thinges maye be obiected against vs. For first of all they will say that they vnderstande by the name of Traditiō An obiection not that whiche was not writen by no man at all and onely deliuered from hande to hande but that which though it be not comprehended in those holy bookes which men call Canonicall yet may be proued by some other woorthie wryters so that though at the firste it was vnwriten yet may nowe woorthely be called writen and suche they call the Traditions of the Apostles Moreouer they will also alledge that they vnderstand by this name Traditions certaine plaine and manifest explicatiōs of the Christian Faith which were receiued in the olde Churche as of Christe how he is of the same Substance with the Father and of the vnitinge of these two natures and such like for these men vse to choose foorth such thinges as are certaine and moste plansible Now though I suppose that I haue sufficiently answeared vnto these thinges heretofore when I did speake of the Councels and of the writings of the Fathers yet haue I more The ansvveare to answeare For first of al they them selues will graunt that all suche Traditions are not to be receiued without exceptiō What rule then shal we kéepe herein Againe if we depende of mens writinges and authoritie when the Mens vvritinges can not be iudges question peraduenture is of the rites and ordinaunces howe many thinges shal we finde not onely diuerse one frō another but cleane contrarie when that controuersie of kéepinge the feast of Pasche or Easter was in the Church of most ancient time whiche proued tried most manifestly the vayne ianglyng the ambition the ignorance and the frowardnes of the moste parte of the Bishoppes of the whole worlde so that the whole worlde was shaken together none otherwise then if the cōtrouersie had bene of the whole Substance of our faithe and bothe parties doo alleadge the Traditiōs of the Apostles what came to passe at the length but that both parties hauyng on their side as thei said the Apostles the strife was more styrred Let the Epistle of Irenaeus be red not to one coūted a Pope By the Epistle of Irenaeus vve may see the libertie in Traditions the Vniuersall Bishop of the whole worlde but to the most foolish ambitious B. of Rome therby it may easily be knowen what libertie hath bene in al Churches hertofore in these rites ceremonies vntill by the tiranny of some the Churches were oppressed Neither meane I here to recōpte vp euery thinge for we had néede of a whole booke so to doo What then shall we folow here That say they which shal be foūde euery where to be receyued of al men as the oyle creame as they call it the signe of the Crosse and such like Thē let vs cōclude this one point that the particular Traditions beyng shut out and secluded onely the Catholike and Vniuersall maye be receaued and of these we shall speake afterwarde Let vs come to the Traditions of Tvvo good kindes of Traditions doctrine They are such that either to resist the Heretikes doo make playne certayne thynges taught in the holy Scriptures whiche the Heretikes doo vse to darkē as thei doo the most cleare matters or els they doo set foorth suche thinges as may be gathered by the cōparinge of the places together though they be no where writen in the selfe Euell Traditions same woordes Either are they such as doo either adde or diminishe or alter and change either openly or priuely any thinge in the Propheticall and Apostolicall writinges Both those first kinde of Traditions suche as are the expositions or confessions of the faithe of the foure Councels we are so farce from refusinge of them that contrary wise with open armes as they say and most willinge mindes we doo embrace all suche But for the thirde kinde of Traditions how can we iudge that to be admitted The Traditiōs that adde to the vvorde for if any thinge ought to be added to the woorde of God written it foloweth that all thinges necessarie to our Saluation are not writen in the Lawe and the Gospell But of the law this neither may nor ought to be spokē for then God might séeme vniuste forbiddyng by plaine woordes any thinge to be added thereunto Neither doo I here care for the Cabalistes Talmudistes and all that kinde of shamelesse men For what can be spokē more plainely by the Lorde And howe seuerely God hath aduenged this rashnes when any thing was added not onely in doctrine but also in rites ceremonies so many proclamatiōs of the Prophetes the interpretours of the lawes criyng out against them and all the Historie of the Bible finally Christe him selfe is a sufficiēt witnesse And shall we thinke that God hath cared lesse for his Church or prouided worse for it when he sent Christe and his Apostels sufficient teachers ▪ his sonne downe into the Earth or cā we suppose that the Apostles were lesse diligent in this pointe then the Prophetes Paule dothe protest vnto the Ephesians that he had holden nothinge backe but had declared all the counfasle of God vnto them so farre foorth at the least as appertained vnto their eternall Saluation Lette them shewe then what Paule hath taught that he hath not writen or els let them confesse the full doctrine of the Gospell which he calleth the power of God to saluation to be comprehended in his writinges But what néede so many woordes when we come to the pointe what can they bringe foorth that is omitted in matters of faith by the Apostles and the Euangelistes Peraduēture that the blessed virgin Mary was Obiectiōs for Traditions not conceiued in Originall sinne that she continued all hir life longe a virgine that children muste be Baptised that Baptisme is not to be reiterated that men muste fast in Lente the holy oyle and chreme the Holy water that Altars muste be hallowed the Crosse must be woorshipped and what ye wil. For they confesse that none of those thinges are founde in the holy Scriptures As for Transubstantiation auricular confession praying vnto Sainctes purgatorie fire they haue nowe a good while sought thē in Scriptures but all in vaine But concernynge the maner of conception of the virgine Marie not onely the holy Scriptures doo not teache it but neither any of the auncient writers doo make mention of it And although I doo willingly and reuerently beleue her perpetuall Virginitie vnto death yet as I once answeared Ansvveare to an