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A12552 The character of the beast, or, The false constitution of the church discovered in certayne passages betwixt Mr. R. Clifton & Iohn Smyth, concerning true Christian baptisme of new creatures, or new borne babes in Christ, &nd false baptisme of infants borne after the flesh : referred to two propositions, 1. That infants are not to bee baptized, 2. That antichristians converted are to bee admitted into the true church by baptisme. Smyth, John, d. 1612. 1609 (1609) STC 22875; ESTC S991 85,221 80

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faith_n by_o hear_v the_o word_n than_o they_o shall_v also_o be_v exclude_v from_o salvation_n by_o that_o reason_n marc._n 16.16_o i_o deny_v it_o utter_o for_o christ_n speak_v only_o of_o such_o as_o to_o who_o the_o gospel_n may_v be_v preach_v which_o only_o be_v man_n of_o year_n for_o when_o he_o say_v go_v preach_v the_o gospel_n to_o every_o creature_n he_o do_v not_o bid_v they_o preach_v to_o beast_n bird_n fish_n or_o infant_n which_o have_v no_o ear_n to_o hear_v but_o he_o bid_v they_o preach_v the_o gospel_n to_o every_o creature_n that_o have_v a_o care_n to_o hear_v that_o be_v to_o all_o that_o be_v of_o a_o docible_a age_n &_o nature_n &_o then_o he_o add_v whosoever_o o●_n they_o that_o have_v ear_n to_o hear_v do_v believe_v &_o upon_o their_o faith_n be_v baptize_v shall_v be_v save_v whosoever_o of_o man_n that_o have_v ear_n to_o hear_v do_v not_o believe_v though_o they_o be_v baptize_v shall_v be_v damn_v now_o i_o pray_v you_o sir_n how_o do_v this_o 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the_o seed_n be_v but_o one_o to_o who_o the_o promise_n be_v make_v viz_n christ_n or_o the_o actual_a believer_n for_o christ_n dwell_v in_o the_o heart_n of_o man_n by_o faith_n only_o gal._n 3.16_o eph._n 3.17_o but_o if_o it_o be_v make_v with_o the_o faithful_a who_o believe_v actualy_a which_o be_v one_o seed_n whither_o jew_n or_o gentil_n &_o the_o infant_n of_o the_o faithful_a carnal_o beget_v of_o their_o body_n which_o be_v another_o seed_n for_o they_o be_v not_o beget_v of_o the_o immortal_a seed_n of_o regeneration_n then_o the_o covenant_n be_v make_v with_o the_o seed_n which_o be_v many_o &_o that_o be_v direct_o contrary_a the_o apostle_n word_n gall_n 3.16_o therefore_o the_o one_o seed_n be_v person_n
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kind_n &_o if_o there_o have_v be_v any_o commandment_n or_o example_n of_o baptise_v any_o one_o infant_n it_o have_v be_v sufficient_a though_o it_o have_v not_o be_v mention_v how_o many_o particular_a infant_n but_o as_o it_o fall_v out_o in_o circumcision_n that_o one_o particular_a precept_n be_v sufficient_a though_o it_o be_v not_o write_v how_o many_o thousand_o be_v circumcise_v so_o likewise_o of_o baptism_n finaly_n for_o that_o you_o say_v of_o the_o eunuch_n though_o i_o intend_v it_o not_o as_o you_o answer_v i●_n i_o think_v that_o some_o mention_n shall_v be_v make_v of_o philip_n to_o the_o eunuch_n or_o of_o the_o eunuch_n to_o philip_n his_o infant_n or_o child_n be_v at_o home_n far_o of_o concern_v infant_n or_o at_o least_o of_o some_o other_o that_o have_v infant_n or_o do_v baptis●_n person_n that_o have_v infant_n &_o that_o after_o this_o manner_n what_o have_v you_o any_o infant_n let_v they_o be_v bring_v to_o baptism_n aswell_o as_o your_o selus_fw-la for_o they_o have_v title_n to_o it_o through_o your_o faith_n or_o thus_o i_o have_v infant_n i_o pray_v you_o let_v they_o be_v baptize_v aswell_o as_o myself_o or_o thus_o do_v you_o repent_v &_o you_o shall_v be_v baptize_v &_o your_o infant_n but_o the_o deep_a silence_n of_o infant_n baptism_n yea_o the_o exclusive_a condition_n of_o believe_v &_o repent_v necessary_a to_o the_o kingdom_n of_o god_n yea_o &_o the_o confession_n of_o sin_n &_o confession_n of_o faith_n perform_v by_o person_n baptize_v yea_o &_o christ_n commandment_n of_o make_v disciple_n before_o baptism_n all_o these_o &_o many_o mo_z be_v strong_a profess_v unanswerable_a against_o baptism_n of_o infant_n mr_n rich._n clifton_n the_o next_o reason_n be_v this_o 2_o because_o christ_n command_v to_o make_v disciple_n by_o teach_v they_o &_o then_o to_o baptise_v they_o matth._n 28.19_o john_n 4.1_o but_o infant_n can_v not_o by_o doctrine_n become_v christ_n disciple_n and_o so_o can_v not_o by_o the_o rule_n of_o christ_n be_v baptize_v answer_n 1._o the_o apostle_n be_v indeed_o command_v to_o make_v disciple_n &_o to_o call_v unto_o the_o faith_n &_o fellowship_n of_o the_o gospel_n not_o only_o the_o jew_n but_o the_o gentile_n through_o out_o the_o world_n mat._n 28_o 19_o &_o give_v they_o power_n to_o preach_v the_o gospel_n which_o before_o have_v be_v preach_v to_o abraham_n gal._n 3.8_o &_o to_o baptise_v all_o that_o do_v receive_v it_o &_o thus_o we_o grant_v that_o faith_n must_v go_v before_o baptism_n in_o all_o such_o as_o be_v to_o be_v make_v disciple_n &_o bring_v into_o the_o covenant_n of_o god_n so_o go_v faith_n before_o circumcision_n abraham_n first_o believe_v &_o after_o be_v circumcise_v &_o likewise_o must_v all_o they_o which_o with_o abraham_n enter_v into_o god_n covenant_n first_o believe_v &_o then_o be_v baptize_v as_o the_o eunuch_n act._n 8.37_o lydia_n act._n 16.13_o &_o the_o keeper_n of_o the_o prison_n act._n 16.33_o but_o when_o such_o have_v receive_v the_o faith_n then_o be_v their_o infant_n &_o household_n capable_a also_o of_o baptism_n as_o abraham_n family_n be_v of_o circumcision_n he_o believe_v the_o promise_n gen._n 17._o &_o therefore_o it_o be_v write_v that_o when_o god_n open_v the_o hart_n of_o lydia_n that_o she_o do_v attend_v to_o the_o word_n that_o paul_n preach_v &_o believe_v not_o only_o the_o herself_o but_o all_o her_o household_n be_v baptize_v &_o yet_o be_v there_o no_o mention_n of_o the_o faith_n of_o any_o of_o they_o save_v of_o lydias_n only_o &_o so_o the_o keep_v believe_v all_o his_o receive_a baptism_n &_o this_o be_v proportionable_a to_o the_o example_n of_o abraham_n who_o faith_n we_o find_v sufficient_a to_o interest_n all_o his_o seed_n in_o the_o covenant_n &_o make_v they_o capable_a of_o the_o seal_n 2._o second_o christ_n take_v the_o same_o course_n in_o give_v out_o this_o commission_n to_o his_o disciple_n mat._n 28.19_o in_o bring_v the_o gentile_n into_o god_n covenant_n that_o the_o l._n take_v with_o abraham_n for_o make_v his_o covenant_n with_o he_o that_o he_o shall_v be_v the_o father_n of_o many_o nation_n etc._n etc._n he_o do_v not_o first_o command_v he_o to_o be_v circumcise_v but_o preach_v to_o he_o the_o gospel_n or_o covenant_n gen._n 17_o 1-8_a &_o he_o believe_v be_v circumcise_v &_o his_o household_n so_o here_o be_v a_o commandment_n first_o for_o the_o publish_n of_o the_o gospel_n to_o they_o that_o be_v not_o in_o christ_n &_o then_o for_o baptise_v such_o as_o believe_v with_o their_o family_n for_o that_o be_v include_v in_o this_o commandment_n else_o have_v not_o the_o apostle_n baptize_v the_o family_n of_o lydia_n &_o of_o the_o keep_v as_o before_o have_v be_v note_v 1._o three_o if_o child_n shall_v be_v exclude_v from_o baptism_n because_o they_o can_v be_v make_v disciple_n by_o teach_v &_o so_o believe_v then_o by_o as_o good_a reason_n may_v they_o be_v exclude_v from_o salvation_n for_o he_o that_o say_v he_o that_o believe_v &_o be_v baptize_v shall_v be_v save_v say_v also_o he_o that_o believe_v not_o shall_v be_v damn_v mar._n 16.16_o if_o therefore_o want_v of_o faith_n be_v sufficient_a to_o exclude_v infant_n from_o baptism_n then_o likewise_o the_o want_n of_o faith_n be_v sufficient_a to_o exclude_v they_o from_o salvation_n for_o if_o the_o former_a be_v hold_v to_o be_v the_o meaning_n of_o christ_n then_o must_v the_o latter_a also_o be_v grant_v a_o thought_n whereof_o be_v to_o be_v abhor_v last_o general_a rule_n must_v be_v take_v with_o their_o sense_n &_o meaning_n it_o be_v a_o general_a rule_n give_v by_o the_o apostle_n 2._o thess_n 3.19_o that_o if_o any_o will_v not_o work_v he_o shousd_v not_o eat_v yet_o if_o any_o shall_v gather_v from_o hence_o that_o the_o impotent_a &_o infant_n shall_v not_o eat_v because_o they_o do_v not_o work_v this_o be_v to_o offer_v violence_n &_o to_o wrest_v the_o apostle_n doctrine_n so_o christ_n give_v a_o general_a rule_n for_o the_o 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cisciple_n aught_o to_o be_v baptize_v infant_n by_o teach_v can_v be_v make_v chr._n disciple_n mat._n 28.19_o joh._n 4.1_o ergo_fw-la infant_n ought_v not_o to_o be_v baptize_v your_o answer_n to_o this_o argument_n of_o i_o consist_v in_o 4._o particular_n first_o you_o say_v that_o as_o abraham_n first_o believe_v &_o then_o be_v circumcise_v &_o then_o all_o his_o household_n receive_v circumcision_n with_o he_o so_o all_o the_o beleve_a gentiles_n must_v first_o be_v baptize_v &_o then_o through_o their_o faith_n all_o their_o household_n must_v be_v baptize_v as_o in_o the_o example_n of_o lydia_n &_o the_o gaylors_n family_n of_o who_o faith_n there_o be_v no_o mention_n make_v as_o neither_o of_o the_o faith_n of_o abraham_n family_n to_o this_o first_o particular_a of_o your_o answer_n
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&_o fearful_a apostasy_n in_o israel_n mr._n rich._n clifton_n babylon_n in_o chaldea_n which_o be_v a_o type_n of_o spiritual_n babylon_n apoc._n 18.2_o though_o they_o do_v abuse_v &_o profan_n the_o vessel_n of_o the_o l._n dan._n 5.3_o yet_o do_v not_o that_o make_v a_o nullity_n of_o they_o that_o they_o cease_v any_o more_o to_o be_v the_o vessel_n of_o the_o house_n of_o the_o lor._n but_o be_v bring_v up_o with_o they_o of_o the_o captivity_n that_o come_v up_o from_o babel_n to_o jerusalem_n ezra_n 1.11_o even_o so_o although_o spiritual_a babylon_n have_v profane_v the_o holy_a thing_n of_o god_n as_o baptism_n &_o the_o rest_n yet_o remain_v they_o still_o god_n ordinance_n to_o all_o they_o that_o come_v out_o of_o she_o apoc._n 18.4_o &_o return_v to_o the_o celestial_a jerusalem_n &_o as_o these_o vessel_n of_o the_o house_n of_o the_o l._n need_v not_o to_o be_v new_o cast_v because_o of_o babel_n pollute_v they_o no_o more_o be_v baptism_n to_o be_v reiterated_a to_o 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not_o a_o nullity_n either_o of_o the_o word_n or_o sacrament_n else_o thould_v the_o efficacy_n of_o the_o word_n &_o sacrament_n depend_v upon_o he_o that_o administer_v they_o which_o be_v not_o so_o for_o both_o have_v their_o effect_n from_o the_o lord_n if_o again_o it_o be_v object_v that_o baptism_n be_v not_o administer_v in_o the_o apostate_n chur._n of_o antichrist_n to_o a_o fit_a subject_n i_o answer_v that_o the_o child_n in_o the_o apostasy_n be_v as_o fit_a subject_n to_o receive_v baptism_n as_o the_o infant_n of_o israel_n in_o the_o day_n of_o jeroboam_fw-la &_o ahab_n be_v to_o receive_v circumcision_n see_v the_o covenant_n of_o abraham_n after_o the_o come_n of_o christ_n belong_v as_o proper_o to_o the_o gentile_n gal._n 3.14_o as_o before_o it_o do_v to_o the_o israelite_n john_n smyth_n your_o second_o argument_n follow_v which_o be_v this_o in_o effect_n as_o the_o babylonians_n abuse_v of_o the_o vessel_n of_o the_o l._n house_n do_v not_o make_v a_o 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ordain_v it_o for_o you_o must_v distinguish_v they_o thus_o the_o vessel_n of_o the_o l._n house_n be_v substance_n frame_v by_o art_n into_o particular_a shape_n at_o the_o l._n apointement_n but_o the_o baptism_n of_o the_o l._n be_v a_o compound_n or_o concrete_a ordinance_n or_o action_n limit_v in_o certain_a essential_a particular_n not_o be_v a_o substance_n but_o a_o accident_n in_o definition_n now_o if_o antic_a have_v retain_v the_o essential_a part_n of_o baptism_n i_o confess_v it_o need_v not_o to_o be_v repeat_v no_o more_o than_o the_o vessel_n of_o the_o l_o house_n need_n to_o be_v new_o cast_v after_o the_o abuse_n of_o the_o babylonians_n but_o see_v baptism_n in_o popery_n &_o antichristianisme_n be_v not_o the_o l._n ordinance_n in_o the_o definition_n of_o it_o but_o antich_n invention_n therefore_o though_o the_o vessel_n of_o the_o l._n house_n may_v be_v retain_v yet_o baptism_n may_v not_o that_o baptism_n be_v antichr_n invention_n in_o the_o definition_n of_o it_o i_o manifest_a thus_o the_o matter_n of_o baptism_n &_o the_o form_n of_o baptism_n be_v invent_v by_o antich_n go_v it_o be_v a_o invention_n of_o antichrist_n in_o the_o definition_n the_o matter_n of_o antichristian_a baptism_n be_v a_o carnal_a infant_n the_o form_n be_v wash_v one_o into_o the_o covenant_n that_o can_v consent_v to_o the_o covenant_n or_o baptise_v without_o a_o contract_n &_o seal_v the_o covenant_n on_o both_o part_n for_o the_o l._n do_v not_o seal_v to_o the_o infant_n and_o the_o infant_n can_v seal_v to_o the_o lord_n as_o i_o have_v manifest_v already_o in_o the_o answer_n to_o the_o former_a argum_fw-la of_o you_o therefore_o the_o baptism_n of_o antichr_n be_v in_o the_o definition_n of_o it_o the_o mere_a devise_n of_o antichr_n for_o the_o scripture_n describe_v true_a baptism_n which_o be_v the_o lord_n own_o ordinance_n thus_o the_o matter_n must_v be_v one_o that_o confess_v his_o faith_n &_o his_o sin_n one_o that_o be_v regenerate_v &_o bear_v again_o the_o form_n must_v be_v a_o voluntary_a deliver_v up_o of_o the_o party_n baptize_v into_o the_o name_n of_o the_o father_n son_n &_o holy_a spirit_n by_o wash_v with_o water_n mat._n 28.19_o mat._n 3.6_o john_n ●_o 1_o act._n 2.41_o &_o 8.36.37_o compare_v with_o roman_n 6.17_o &_o mat._n 28._o 20._o &_o 18.20_o &_o gal._n 3.27_o &_o roman_n 6_o 2-6_a wherein_o there_o must_v be_v a_o mutual_a consent_n of_o both_o person_n contract_v together_o &_o that_o this_o be_v so_o the_o form_n of_o baptism_n retain_v in_o popery_n yet_o teach_v plain_o where_o they_o say_v credis_fw-la credo_fw-la abrenunti●s_fw-la abrenuntio_fw-la which_o other_o person_n speak_v for_o the_o infant_n that_o can_v speak_v thereby_o declare_v that_o there_o must_v needs_o be_v a_o mutual_a contract_n of_o both_o the_o party_n contract_v this_o ordinance_n of_o the_o l._n therefore_o be_v abolish_v both_o in_o the_o matter_n &_o form_n &_o a_o other_o strange_a invention_n of_o man_n be_v in_o the_o room_n thereof_o substitute_v which_o be_v not_o the_o l._n &_o therefore_o a_o nullity_n &_o as_o if_o the_o babylonian_n shall_v have_v frame_v a_o temple_n altar_n arck_n or_o candlestick_n after_o their_o devise_n &_o give_v they_o to_o the_o people_n of_o the_o jew_n they_o can_v not_o have_v retain_v they_o &_o use_v they_o to_o worship_n god_n withal_o so_o can_v true_o christian_n retain_v antichristian_a baptism_n which_o be_v devise_v in_o the_o definition_n of_o it_o three_o i_o answer_v that_o if_o the_o antichristian_o have_v baptize_v person_n confess_v their_o sin_n &_o their_o faith_n into_o the_o name_n of_o the_o son_n of_o god_n &_o the_o trinity_n it_o have_v then_o be_v true_a baptism_n though_o in_o the_o hand_n of_o the_o antichristian_o as_o the_o vessel_n of_o the_o l._n house_n in_o the_o
to_o contradict_v but_o the_o separation_n they_o say_v england_n have_v a_o false_a constitution_n &_o be_v a_o false_a chu_n &_o to_o be_v separate_v from_o &_o yet_o they_o say_v also_o england_n have_v a_o true_a baptism_n that_o be_v a_o true_a constitution_n which_o be_v not_o to_o be_v separate_v from_o for_o a_o true_a constitution_n &_o true_a baptism_n be_v one_o &_o the_o same_o so_o be_v a_o false_a constitution_n &_o a_o false_a baptism_n so_o that_o the_o speech_n &_o action_n of_o the_o separation_n be_v contradictory_n in_o this_o particular_a finaly_n they_o that_o defend_v the_o baptism_n of_o infant_n can_v with_o any_o truth_n or_o good_a conscience_n separate_a from_o england_n as_o from_o a_o false_a chu_n though_o they_o may_v separate_v for_o coruption_n &_o they_o that_o do_v separate_a from_o england_n as_o from_o a_o false_a chu_n must_v of_o snecessity_n separate_a from_o the_o baptism_n of_o england_n &_o account_v the_o baptism_n of_o england_n false_a &_o so_o account_v the_o baptism_n of_o infant_n false_a baptism_n therefore_o the_o separation_n must_v either_o go_v back_o to_o england_n or_o go_v forward_o to_o true_a baptism_n &_o all_o that_o shall_v in_o time_n to_o come_v separate_a from_o england_n must_v separate_a from_o the_o baptism_n of_o england_n &_o if_o they_o will_v not_o separate_a from_o the_o baptism_n of_o england_n their_o be_v no_o reason_n why_o they_o shall_v separate_v from_o england_n as_o from_o a_o false_a church_n &_o this_o be_v more_o at_o large_a prove_v in_o the_o second_o question_n of_o this_o discourse_n whither_o the_o reader_n be_v to_o be_v refer_v now_o concern_v this_o point_n of_o baptise_v infant_n we_o do_v profess_v before_o the_o l._n &_o before_o all_o man_n in_o sincerity_n &_o truth_n that_o it_o seem_v unto_o we_o the_o most_o unreasonable_a heresy_n of_o all_o antichristianisme_n for_o consider_v what_o baptism_n be_v a_o infant_n be_v no_o more_o capable_a of_o baptism_n than_o be_v any_o unreasonable_a or_o insensible_a creature_n for_o baptism_n be_v not_o wash_v with_o water_n but_o it_o be_v the_o baptism_n of_o the_o spirit_n the_o confession_n of_o the_o mouth_n &_o the_o wash_n with_o water_n how_o then_o can_v any_o man_n without_o great_a folly_n wash_v with_o water_n which_o be_v the_o least_o &_o last_o of_o baptism_n one_o that_o be_v not_o baptize_v with_o the_o spirit_n &_o can_v confess_v with_o the_o mouth_n or_o how_o be_v it_o baptism_n if_o one_o be_v so_o wash_v now_o that_o a_o infant_n can_v be_v baptize_v with_o the_o spirit_n be_v plain_a 1._o pet._n 3_o 21._o where_o the_o apostle_n say_v that_o the_o baptism_n of_o the_o spirit_n be_v the_o question_n of_o a_o good_a conscience_n into_o god_n &_o heb._n 10.22_o where_o the_o baptism_n which_o be_v inward_a be_v call_v the_o sprinkle_n of_o the_o hart_n from_o a_o evil_a conscience_n see_v therefore_o infant_n neither_o have_v a_o evil_a conscience_n nor_o the_o question_n of_o a_o good_a conscience_n nor_o the_o purge_n of_o the_o hart_n for_o all_o these_o be_v proper_a to_o actual_a sinner_n hence_o it_o follow_v that_o infant_n baptism_n be_v folly_n &_o nothing_o again_o johns_n baptism_n be_v the_o baptism_n of_o repentance_n infant_n have_v not_o repentance_n &_o therefore_o can_v have_v the_o baptism_n of_o repentance_n that_o infant_n can_v have_v repentance_n be_v evident_a see_v repentance_n be_v knowledge_n of_o sin_n by_o the_o law_n sorrow_n for_o sin_n by_o the_o gospel_n mortification_n of_o sin_n &_o new_a obedience_n all_o which_o be_v as_o much_o in_o the_o basin_n of_o water_n as_o in_o the_o infant_n baptize_v now_o i_o confess_v the_o pedobaptist_n have_v many_o show_n of_o reason_n for_o the_o maintenance_n of_o their_o heresy_n &_o one_o man_n shape_v they_o into_o one_o form_n another_o man_n into_o a_o other_o as_o every_o man_n wit_n &_o learning_n teach_v he_o but_o indeed_o they_o be_v all_o build_v upon_o the_o self_n same_o sandy_a fondation_n the_o wrest_n of_o some_o place_n of_o scripture_n all_o which_o in_o a_o manner_n be_v discover_v in_o some_o measure_n in_o this_o treatise_n whereby_o the_o reader_n may_v perceive_v the_o manifest_a pervent_v of_o the_o scripture_n from_o their_o true_a sense_n now_o because_o man_n call_v for_o antiquity_n &_o except_o they_o see_v antiquity_n they_o will_v not_o believe_v though_o the_o scripture_n be_v the_o most_o ancient_a i_o have_v think_v good_a therefore_o to_o propound_v two_o pregnant_a testimony_n of_o antiquity_n beside_o that_o which_o be_v allege_v in_o the_o pag._n 30._o &_o 31._o of_o this_o treatise_n against_o baptism_n of_o infant_n that_o man_n may_v know_v that_o this_o truth_n also_o have_v her_o footstep_n among_o the_o father_n tertullianus_n lib._n de_fw-la baptismo_fw-la adversus_fw-la quintillam_fw-la have_v these_o word_n then_o which_o nothing_o be_v more_o plain_a itaque_fw-la pro_fw-la cujusque_fw-la personae_fw-la conditione_n dispositione_n etiam_fw-la aetate_fw-la cunctatio_fw-la baptismi_fw-la utilior_fw-la est_fw-la precipue_v tamen_fw-la circa_fw-la parvulos_fw-la quid_fw-la enim_fw-la necesse_fw-la est_fw-la si_fw-la non_fw-la tam_fw-la necesse_fw-la sponsores_fw-la etiam_fw-la periculo_fw-la ingeri_fw-la qui_fw-fr &_o ipsi_fw-la per_fw-la mortalitatem_fw-la destituere_fw-la promissiones_fw-la svas_fw-la possunt_fw-la &_o proventu_fw-la malae_fw-la indolis_fw-la falli_fw-la ait_fw-fr quidem_fw-la dominus_fw-la nolite_fw-la illos_fw-la pro_fw-la hibere_fw-la ad_fw-la i_o venire_fw-la veniant_fw-la ergo_fw-la dum_fw-la adolescunt_fw-la veniant_fw-la dum_fw-la discunt_fw-la dum_fw-la quo_fw-la veniant_fw-la docentur_fw-la fiant_fw-la christiani_n cum_fw-la christum_fw-la nosse_fw-la potuerint_fw-la quid_fw-la festinat_fw-la innocensaetas_fw-la ad_fw-la remissionem_fw-la peccatorum_fw-la cautius_fw-la agitur_fw-la in_o secularibus_fw-la ut_fw-la cvi_fw-la substantia_fw-la terrena_fw-la non_fw-la creditur_fw-la divina_fw-la credatur_fw-la norint_fw-la petere_fw-la salutem_fw-la ut_fw-la p●tenti_fw-la dedisse_fw-la videaris_fw-la that_o be_v to_o say_v in_o english_a therefore_o to_o defer_v &_o not_o to_o hasten_v baptism_n be_v more_o profitable_a for_o the_o condition_n disposition_n &_o age_n of_o every_o person_n but_o especial_o as_o concern_v young_a child_n for_o what_o necessity_n be_v there_o to_o bring_v suertye_n into_o danger_n for_o the_o baptise_v of_o infant_n if_o there_o be_v no_o such_o necessity_n of_o hasten_v the_o baptise_n of_o infant_n see_v the_o surety_n ofttimes_o be_v disable_v to_o perform_v their_o promise_n both_o by_o reason_n of_o mortality_n &_o of_o the_o evil_a disposition_n of_o some_o child_n when_o they_o come_v to_o year_n for_o wh●me_v they_o promise_v in_o baptism_n indeed_o the_o l._n say_v forbid_v they_o not_o to_o come_v unto_o i_o therefore_o let_v they_o come_v to_o chr._n but_o let_v they_o come_v when_o they_o be_v grow_v when_o they_o learn_v &_o when_o they_o be_v teach_v to_o what_o they_o come_v let_v they_o by_o baptism_n be_v make_v christian_n when_o they_o can_v know_v chr._n by_o instruction_n why_o do_v the_o innocent_a age_n hasten_v to_o the_o remission_n of_o sin_n we_o deal_v more_o safe_o in_o worldly_a matter_n shall_v we_o commit_v heavenly_a thing_n to_o young_a child_n unto_o who_o we_o dare_v not_o commit_v our_o earthly_a substance_n let_v they_o first_o know_v how_o to_o ask_v salvation_n that_o so_o we_o may_v seem_v to_o give_v to_o he_o that_o ask_v euseb_n ecclest_a hist_o lib._n 10._o chap._n 15._o athanasius_n his_o baptise_v of_o child_n in_o spirit_n that_o answer_v according_a to_o the_o custom_n of_o the_o catechumeni_fw-la be_v approve_v by_o alex._n lib._n of_o alexa._n &_o his_o clerk_n whence_o it_o be_v to_o be_v note_v that_o these_o child_n baptize_v by_o athanasius_n be_v unbaptise_v &_o yet_o know_v the_o manner_n of_o baptism_n as_o be_v child_n bear_v in_o the_o chu_n so_o that_o by_o this_o place_n &_o all_o other_o place_n of_o the_o eclesi_n hist_o where_o like_a mention_n be_v make_v of_o the_o child_n of_o christian_n first_o catechize_v &_o then_o baptize_v it_o may_v easy_o be_v discern_v that_o baptism_n of_o infant_n be_v not_o yet_o universal_o receive_v but_o by_o little_a &_o little_o prevail_v as_o other_o antich_n heresy_n have_v do_v in_o respect_n whereof_o origen_n august_n cyprian_a &_o all_o the_o papist_n with_o one_o consent_n acknowledge_v it_o a_o tradition_n of_o the_o church_n and_o thus_o much_o for_o the_o testimony_n of_o antiquity_n which_o hereafter_o shall_v be_v produce_v more_o plentiful_o upon_o further_a occasion_n offer_v if_o the_o separation_n or_o any_o other_o dare_v adventure_v the_o trial_n of_o the_o matter_n out_o of_o antiquity_n but_o there_o be_v one_o &_o indeed_o but_o one_o argument_n which_o the_o separation_n principaly_fw-fr stand_v upon_o &_o that_o be_v the_o covenant_n which_o say_v they_o if_o it_o be_v answer_v they_o must_v ned●_n yield_v unto_o the_o truth_n now_o although_o this_o argument_n be_v answer_v in_o this_o write_n even_o to_o the_o
2.11.12_o &_o that_o in_o as_o large_a &_o ample_a manner_n if_o not_o more_o ample_a then_o to_o the_o israelit_n for_o of_o they_o only_o be_v the_o male_n circumcise_v but_o by_o baptism_n be_v both_o male_n &_o female_n seal_v and_o this_o must_v follow_v necessary_o or_o else_o the_o covenant_n by_o the_o come_n of_o je._n chr._n shall_v be_v more_o restrain_v ●hen_o it_o be_v under_o the_o law_n who_o come_v to_o ratify_v &_o confirm_v that_o whole_o as_o the_o apostle_n say_v 2._o cor._n 1._o 20._o the_o promise_n of_o god_n be_v in_o he_o yea_o &_o amen_o etc._n etc._n for_o god_n give_v it_o with_o the_o seal_n thereof_o to_o abraham_n &_o his_o infant_n &_o if_o christ_n shall_v give_v it_o unto_o we_o only_o &_o not_o to_o our_o infant_n this_o be_v to_o lessen_v &_o infringe_v the_o covenant_n &_o not_o to_o con●●●●_n all_o but_o to_o take_v away_o part_n of_o that_o which_o god_n before_o have_v give_v john_n smyth_n your_o second_o argument_n follow_v from_o coll._n 2.11.12_o which_o be_v frame_v thus_o if_o circumcision_n belong_v to_o faithful_a abraham_n &_o his_o seed_n yea_o to_o such_o as_o be_v but_o infant_n then_o do_v baptism_n also_o aperteyne_a to_o all_o believer_n &_o to_o their_o seed_n be_v infant_n but_o the_o first_o be_v true_a gen._n 17.10_o ergo_fw-la the_o second_o the_o reason_n of_o the_o consequent_a be_v double_a 1._o for_o that_o baptism_n come_v in_o place_n of_o circumcision_n as_o a_o seal_n of_o the_o same_o promise_n to_o we_o &_o our_o seed_n col._n 2.11.12_o 2._o for_o that_o the_o covenant_n must_v be_v as_o large_o seal_v up_o to_o we_o as_o to_o they_o therefore_o to_o our_o female_n as_o well_o as_o male_n &_o infant_n as_o well_o as_o person_n of_o year_n for_o the_o covenant_n in_o christ_n be_v not_o lessen_v but_o of_o as_o large_a extent_n now_o as_o then_o 2._o cor._n 1.20_o see_v in_o christ_n all_o the_o promise_n of_o god_n be_v yea_o &_o amen_n i_o answer_v that_o this_o argument_n be_v build_v upon_o the_o same_o false_a ground_n with_o the_o former_a a_o mere_a mistake_n of_o the_o covenant_n &_o seal_v &_o seed_n &_o their_o be_v manifest_a violence_n commit_v upon_o the_o scripture_n by_o pervert_v &_o wrest_v it_o to_o false_a consequent_n first_o therefore_o i_o deny_v the_o consequence_n &_o i_o give_v reason_n of_o my_o denial_n 1._o because_o circumcision_n do_v not_o aperteyne_a to_o abraham_n &_o his_o infant_n as_o a_o seal_n of_o the_o everlasting_a covenant_n of_o life_n &_o salvation_n but_o of_o the_o external_a temporary_a covenant_n of_o the_o land_n of_o canaan_n &_o of_o obedience_n to_o the_o law_n of_o moses_n &_o therefore_o though_o circumcision_n aperteyn_v to_o abraham_n &_o his_o carnal_a infant_n as_o a_o seal_n of_o the_o external_a covenant_n yet_o it_o do_v not_o follow_v that_o baptism_n belong_v to_o the_o faithful_a &_o their_o carnal_a infant_n as_o a_o seal_n of_o the_o spiritual_a covenant_n of_o the_o new_a testament_n make_v in_o 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jailer_n be_v baptize_v yet_o it_o be_v also_o say_v we_o 32._o that_o the_o word_n be_v preach_v to_o all_o that_o be_v in_o his_o house_n &_o we_o 34._o that_o all_o his_o howsehold_n believe_v &_o how_o come_v their_o faith_n but_o by_o the_o word_n preach_v we_o 32._o see_v therefore_o that_o all_o that_o be_v baptize_v in_o the_o gaylor_n how_o be_v believe_v by_o the_o preach_n of_o the_o word_n infant_n that_o can_v not_o believe_v by_o the_o preach_n of_o the_o word_n be_v not_o baptize_v if_o he_o have_v any_o beside_o it_o be_v a_o marvelous_a distemper_a time_n at_o midnight_n to_o wake_v child_n &_o to_o bring_v they_o before_o the_o apostle_n for_o baptism_n 3._o i_o say_v that_o for_o lydias_n family_n it_o be_v not_o say_v that_o all_o her_o howsehold_n be_v baptize_v or_o if_o it_o have_v be_v so_o say_v yet_o it_o follow_v not_o that_o every_o particular_a person_n off_o her_o family_n be_v baptize_v for_o mat._n 3_o 5.6_o it_o be_v say_v that_o all_o judea_n go_v out_o to_o john_n &_o be_v baptize_v of_o he_o confess_v their_o sin_n yet_o hence_o it_o can_v be_v conclude_v that_o all_o &_o every_o one_o that_o go_v out_o be_v baptize_v or_o that_o all_o &_o every_o one_o go_v out_o to_o be_v baptize_v no_o more_o can_v it_o be_v prove_v that_o because_o it_o be_v say_v that_o lydias_n family_n be_v baptize_v that_o therefore_o all_o &_o every_o particular_a person_n be_v baptize_v but_o as_o mat._n 3.6_o only_o they_o that_o confess_v their_o sin_n &_o as_o act._n 16_o 32-34_a only_o they_o that_o believe_v by_o the_o word_n preach_v be_v baptize_v so_o be_v it_o with_o they_o of_o lydias_n family_n that_o be_v baptize_v for_o the_o apostle_n i_o doubt_v not_o keep_v one_o order_n &_o require_v the_o same_o condition_n in_o all_o that_o they_o baptize_v so_o that_o by_o that_o which_o have_v be_v say_v the_o vanity_n of_o this_o argument_n be_v manifest_v &_o it_o be_v prove_v plain_o that_o none_o be_v baptize_v in_o the_o gaylors_n family_n 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family_n &_o therefore_o in_o the_o family_n of_o lydia_n of_o crispus_n act._n 18.8_o of_o the_o ruler_n john_n 4.43_o &_o so_o no_o infant_n be_v baptize_v and_o this_o shall_v suffice_v for_o answer_v to_o your_o argument_n mr._n rich._n mr._n hereunto_o i_o will_v adjoyne_v some_o testimony_n of_o the_o father_n not_o to_o prove_v that_o child_n ought_v to_o be_v baptize_v which_o be_v to_o be_v do_v &_o be_v by_o the_o scripture_n already_o prove_v but_o to_o show_v the_o practice_n hereof_o in_o ancient_a church_n augustine_n as_o i_o find_v allege_v write_v to_o jerome_n epist_n 28._o chap._n 5._o say_v cyprian_n not_o make_v any_o new_a decree_n but_o firm_o observe_v the_o faith_n of_o the_o church_n judge_v with_o his_o fellow_n bishop_n that_o as_o soon_o as_o one_o be_v bear_v he_o may_v lawful_o be_v baptize_v see_v cyprian_n epist_n to_o fidus._n and_o write_v against_o the_o donatist_n lib._n 4._o chap._n 23._o &_o 24._o say_v that_o the_o baptism_n of_o infant_n be_v 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&_o at_o my_o 〈◊〉_d &_o at_o the_o who_o earth_n that_o we_o shall_v not_o see_v so_o evident_a a_o truth_n all_o this_o tyme._n the_o second_o particular_a you_o bring_v in_o answer_n to_o my_o reason_n be_v a_o distinction_n of_o the_o respect_n of_o the_o seed_n of_o the_o faithful_a for_o you_o say_v as_o they_o be_v bear_v of_o their_o parent_n they_o be_v carnal_a &_o sinful_a psal_n 51.5_o as_o they_o be_v under_o the_o covenant_n they_o be_v spiritual_a gen._n 17.7_o &_o be_v call_v holy_a 1_o cor._n 7.14_o &_o so_o be_v not_o the_o carnal_a seed_n &_o so_o they_o may_v be_v baptize_v aswell_o as_o the_o jew_n infant_n be_v circumcise_v though_o some_o of_o they_o prove_v wicked_a afterward_o as_o ishmael_n &_o esaw_n etc._n etc._n i_o answer_v first_o your_o distinction_n be_v without_o warrant_n of_o scripture_n &_o i_o deny_v that_o infant_n of_o the_o faithful_a be_v to_o be_v consider_v in_o these_o two_o respect_n &_o whereas_o you_o bring_v two_o place_n gen._n 17.7_o 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god_n through_o popery_n yet_o in_o the_o popish_a church_n there_o be_v no_o true_a church_n ministry_n worship_n or_o government_n nor_o true_a baptism_n but_o all_o false_a and_o antichristian_a and_o so_o to_o be_v reject_v and_o the_o truth_n to_o be_v assume_v out_o of_o the_o scripture_n and_o so_o this_o argument_n off_o you_o be_v answer_v mr._n rich._n clifton_n if_o antichrist_n be_v not_o the_o author_n of_o baptism_n but_o of_o some_o humane_a devise_n annex_v unto_o in_o the_o administration_n thereof_o then_o be_v we_o not_o to_o pluck_v up_o the_o whea●e_n with_o the_o ●ares_n mat._n 13.29_o and_o to_o cast_v away_o that_o which_o be_v christ_n with_o antichr_n but_o to_o separate_a from_o that_o which_o be_v man_n invention_n &_o still_o to_o retain_v that_o which_o be_v of_o god_n but_o to_o baptise_v with_o water_n into_o the_o name_n of_o the_o father_n &_o of_o the_o son_n &_o of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n mat._n 28.19_o be_v from_o heaven_n &_o not_o from_o 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destroy_v the_o true_a temple_n the_o true_a church_n then_o must_v we_o build_v it_o up_o again_o &_o when_o antichrist_n have_v destroy_v the_o true_a baptism_n then_o must_v we_o rear_v it_o up_o again_o wherefore_o see_v as_o be_v show_v before_o antichrist_n have_v abolish_v the_o true_a baptism_n of_o chr._n in_o the_o definition_n or_o in_o the_o matter_n &_o form_n thereof_o &_o have_v rear_v a_o baptism_n of_o his_o own_o it_o must_v therefore_o be_v abolish_v &_o as_o when_o we_o do_v renounce_v the_o false_a church_n or_o ministry_n we_o do_v not_o renounce_v that_o which_o be_v true_a in_o the_o false_a church_n or_o ministry_n but_o only_o the_o falsehood_n so_o in_o reject_v the_o false_a baptism_n of_o antichr_n we_o do_v not_o renounce_v that_o which_o be_v true_a in_o it_o as_o to_o wash_v with_o water_n into_o the_o name_n of_o the_o father_n son_n &_o holy_a ghost_n but_o only_o the_o falsehood_n and_o yet_o as_o when_o we_o retain_v the_o truth_n in_o a_o false_a 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son_n &_o holy_a ghost_n which_o be_v but_o accidental_n for_o a_o turck_n so_o wash_v be_v not_o baptize_v &_o once_o only_o wash_v a_o new_a bear_v babe_n in_o christ_n into_o the_o truth_n which_o be_v true_a essential_a baptism_n which_o antichrist_n have_v abolish_v &_o which_o we_o only_o restore_v &_o nothing_o else_o &_o so_o your_o argument_n be_v answer_v mr._n rich._n clifton_n as_o god_n have_v make_v a_o everlasting_a covenant_n with_o abraham_n &_o his_o seed_n gen._n 17.7_o which_o through_o the_o malice_n of_o satan_n &_o all_o his_o instrument_n shall_v never_o be_v cut_v of_o so_o have_v he_o preserve_v both_o in_o the_o apostasy_n under_o the_o law_n &_o gospel_n the_o seal_n thereof_o for_o the_o comfort_n of_o the_o faithful_a and_o therefore_o the_o anabaptist_n in_o reject_v that_o baptism_n of_o christ_n whereof_o they_o be_v partaker_n in_o the_o apostate_n church_n &_o devise_v a_o new_a do_v bring_v in_o a_o new_a covenant_n &_o a_o new_a gospel_n take_v upon_o they_o to_o baptize_v themselves_o without_o warrant_n from_o the_o word_n for_o i_o be_o sure_a it_o can_v be_v show_v that_o any_o do_v ever_o baptize_v himself_o without_o special_a commandment_n from_o god_n as_o abrah_n have_v for_o circumcision_n gen._n 17.9_o or_o john_n for_o baptism_n marc._n 1.3_o nor_o yet_o any_o other_o without_o ordinary_a or_o extraordinary_a call_n joh._n 4.2_o mat._n 3.6_o act._n 8.38_o &_o 9.18_o &_o 10-48_a if_o it_o be_v say_v the_o time_n be_v extraordinary_a i_o answer_v the_o lord_n have_v leave_v either_o example_n or_o rule_n or_o ground_n of_o rule_n whereby_o we_o may_v in_o extraordinary_a time_n have_v a_o sure_a warrant_n out_o of_o the_o word_n to_o inform_v we_o in_o any_o thing_n that_o we_o ought_v to_o do_v john_n smyth_n your_o 6._o argument_n be_v thus_o much_o in_o effect_n that_o see_v the_o covenant_n make_v with_o abraham_n in_o respect_n of_o christ_n be_v everlasting_a genes_n 17.7_o &_o can_v by_o the_o malice_n of_o 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everlasting_a not_o in_o respect_n of_o the_o visible_a real_a existence_n in_o the_o world_n in_o a_o establish_a church_n but_o in_o respect_n of_o the_o stability_n &_o firmness_n of_o it_o in_o regard_n of_o satan_n malice_n which_o shall_v not_o so_o abolish_v it_o that_o it_o shall_v never_o be_v recover_v again_o for_o otherwise_o the_o church_n go_v into_o the_o wilderness_n revel_v 12.14_o &_o all_o nation_n be_v make_v drink_v with_o the_o cup_n of_o the_o fornication_n of_o the_o whore_n of_o babylon_n revel_v 18._o ●_o &_o there_o be_v no_o true_a church_n in_o the_o depth_n of_o antichristianisme_n &_o so_o no_o true_a baptism_n for_o can_v any_o thing_n be_v true_a in_o a_o false_a church_n but_o the_o scripture_n &_o the_o truth_n contain_v therein_o i_o deny_v therefore_o that_o the_o covenant_n church_n
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