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sacrament_n and_o the_o real_a presence_n of_o christ_n in_o the_o eucharist_n therefore_o the_o protestant_n deny_v the_o article_n of_o believe_v the_o communion_n of_o saint_n protestant_n any_o man_n may_v make_v as_o good_a a_o reason_n of_o seven_o score_n seven_o hundred_o or_o seven_o thousand_o or_o of_o the_o real_a presence_n in_o baptism_n the_o real_a presence_n we_o believe_v the_o carnal_a and_o bodily_a presence_n no_o papist_n can_v prove_v if_o the_o faithful_a be_v make_v one_o body_n by_o receive_v so_o may_v they_o be_v though_o there_o be_v no_o such_o presence_n therefore_o the_o apostle_n call_v it_o bread_n all_o that_o participate_v of_o one_o breâ—â—_n not_o of_o one_o body_n carnal_o beside_o if_o by_o receive_v they_o be_v make_v one_o body_n than_o they_o be_v not_o one_o body_n till_o they_o receive_v then_o they_o be_v make_v such_o every_o time_n they_o receive_v both_o which_o be_v manifest_o false_a papist_n they_o that_o deny_v the_o communion_n of_o the_o church_n militant_a &_o triumphant_a by_o exclaim_v against_o invocation_n of_o saint_n and_o prayer_n for_o the_o soul_n in_o purgatory_n deny_v the_o article_n of_o believe_v the_o communion_n of_o saint_n but_o the_o protestant_n deny_v the_o communion_n of_o the_o church_n militant_a and_o triumphant_a by_o exclaim_v against_o invocation_n of_o saint_n and_o prayer_n for_o the_o soul_n in_o purgatory_n therefore_o the_o protestant_n deny_v the_o article_n of_o believe_v the_o communion_n of_o saint_n protestant_n the_o proposition_n be_v false_a because_o there_o be_v no_o such_o communion_n your_o proof_n be_v nothing_o jacob_n and_o john_n pray_v to_o god_n that_o the_o church_n may_v be_v protect_v and_o bless_v by_o the_o ministry_n of_o angel_n therefore_o the_o saint_n depart_v pray_v for_o we_o and_o we_o must_v pray_v to_o they_o 1._o why_o not_o rather_o to_o god_n as_o jacob_n and_o john_n do_v 2._o it_o follow_v not_o because_o they_o protect_v we_o therefore_o 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the_o most_o point_n wherein_o the_o protestant_n dissent_v from_o catholic_n tend_v to_o looseness_n of_o life_n and_o carnal_a liberty_n if_o the_o 〈◊〉_d point_v follow_v tend_v to_o looseness_n of_o life_n &_o carnal_a 〈◊〉_d than_o the_o most_o point_n wherein_o the_o protestant_n dissent_v from_o catholic_n do_v so_o but_o the_o seven_o point_n follow_v tend_v to_o looseness_n of_o life_n and_o carnal_a liberty_n therefore_o the_o most_o point_n wherein_o the_o protestant_n dissent_v from_o catholic_n tend_v to_o looseness_n of_o life_n and_o carnal_a liberty_n protestant_n first_o i_o answer_v to_o the_o whole_a syllogism_n that_o if_o the_o protestant_n teach_v nothing_o in_o these_o point_n of_o dissent_n which_o be_v not_o warrant_v by_o the_o scripture_n than_o it_o skill_v not_o what_o in_o the_o corrupt_a judgement_n of_o man_n may_v be_v argue_v to_o ensue_v 19_o rom._n 6._o 1._o &_o 9_o 19_o thereupon_o second_o i_o say_v the_o consequence_n of_o the_o proposition_n be_v 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