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A95414 The scriptures sufficiency to determine all matters of faith, made good against the Papist: or, That a Christian may be infallibly certain of his faith and religion by the Holy Scriptures. By that great and famous light of Gods Church, William Twisse D.D. and prolocutor of the late assembly of divines. Twisse, William, 1578?-1646. 1656 (1656) Wing T3424; Thomason E1698_2; ESTC R209446 47,921 167

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the cause of this mans perplexity was it not his own extreme superstition most abominable If the Author of this Discourse had proposed any thing on the other side to the Scripture and pretended ambiguity and perplexity which of them he preferred according whereunto to order his faith that Martialists resolution of the doubt might have been congruous enough But onely concerning the Scripture-doubts are here proposed how a man should ground his faith thereupon what he is I know not and whether this be res gesta or ficta I am to seek for the present world is full of jugling But when wee make such doubts unto our selves do we well consider the goodness and wisdom of God in giving us his holy Word to direct us in the wayes of everlasting life if still there were just cause to complain of a perplexed condition whereinto we were cast not knowing whether we shall take hold of it or run away from it as Moses did from his rod when it was turned into a Serpent But do we finde any the like Metamorphosis here yet when the Lord bid Moses take the Serpent by the tail he was bold to do it surely Gods Word is no Serpent but we rather and his Word alone hath power to charm us and make us vomit all our poyson of erroneous and unholy ways and the Lord Christ hath bid us to take hold of them saying Search the Scriptures yet if any thing in this my Answer seem amiss and not answerable to the Authors expectation but savouring as hee thinks of partiality prejudice or passion I confess prejudice against such discourses as these accompting them most vile and nothing becomming an understanding and godly Christian but as for the rest let him impute it to my ignorance that know not so much as what is the way of his passion for he seems to me to be neither Lutheran nor Calvinist and would not seem to bee a Papist though I am most prone to conceive it to be the trick of some Papist least of all doe I know his person or Countrey But let every sober Christian consider well and inquire whether that since the beginning that Gods Word was committed to writing there were at any time any such questions moved untill this last and worst Age of the world when Cajetan the Cardinall a great school-School-Divine first encountred with Martin Luther and found that no Authority prevailed with him but Scripturall hereupon hee was moved to study Scripture and wrote Commentaries upon it in his old age But Silvester Prierius of Rome he thought that way too far about and therefore took a shorter course and maintained that the Scriptures contained not all things necessary to salvation and therefore the rule of faith to be made compleat must be pieced up with the unwritten Word added to the written Word which unwritten Word they called Traditions Since that the Papists have strengthned themselves with the Authority of the Church yet confess the true Church cannot bee known to be a true Church nor the Authority thereof known but by the Scriptures and the issue of the resolution of the Church must bee the resolution of the Pope concerning the true interpretation of Scripture shamefully obtruding upon us that we make the resolution of our faith into our own private spirit whereas we to the contrary extend the testimony of the spirit onely to each private mans best satisfaction and teach no other herein than the Papists themselves acknowledge to be most true as touching the resolution physicall of our faith as I am able to prove by variety of pregnant evidences ready at hand without any more adoe than the bare transcribing of them Now this light being not of a nature communicable unto others we meddle not with it in disputing upon any other point of Divinity with Papists or any other But therein walk in all our disputations by way of Resolution Logicall either into some confessed principles as concerning the Attributes Divine or into express passages of holy Scripture the meaning whereof if it be excepted against we are ready to justify it by rationall discourse against any adversary nothing doubting but we shall either convict him of obstinacy in shutting his eyes against the clear evidence of truth and make him condemned in his own conscience or at least in the conscience of all sober Christians being well assured that whosoever resisteth the evidence of Gods Word upon pretence of inevidence that Word shall be found of evidence enough to judge him at the last day ¶ This Jesuiticall Question was sent out of Germany when the Assembly of Divines were sitting at Westminster and was translated out of High-Dutch FINIS
mercy at Gods hands are all one Rom. 11.30 Now if it be granted that faith may be had in what degree of certainty soever what sober Christian can make doubt but that if question be made about the means whereby we may have it it may be had by holy Scripture as well as by any other means yea and far better considering that faith is in the proper notion thereof the assent to somewhat from the authority of the speaker and if the speaker is but a man it is no better than faith human if the speaker be God that and that alone makes it to be faith divine Now we all confess that the holy Scripture is the Word of God and therefore if by any word faith may be had in what degree of certainty soever sure it may be had by the Word of God yea and that no other way can Divine Faith be had but by the Word of God not by the word of the creature whether man or Angell And if faith may be wrought by the power of Gods Spirit in the heart of any man he that makes question whether this may be done by the holy Scriptures had need of some good measure of Ellebore to purge his brain for he seems to me to be in the next degree to a mad-man for seeing faith is no faith unless it depend upon some word that God should work his faith by another word than his own is as uncouth and contradictious assertion I should think as ever was heard among the learned But it may be this Author through the confusion of his wits hath not hitherto been so happy as to deliver himself fairly of his own meaning Therefore let us take notice of the Discourse it self whether it may bear any better state of the Question than yet we have been acquainted with For I guess that in the issue the state of the Question will come to this Whether it be possible for us by the holy Scripture to have any certain assurance of the meaning of it Disc The reason of our doubting is this Both Papists and Calvinists holding contrary opinions do maintain prove by the holy Scriptures as they suppose the contrary to that which the Lutherans hold seriously affirming that in the Scriptures the Lutheran Religion is condemned and theirs confirmed Which thing no man will deny to be an evident Argument of the obseurity of theholy Scriptures If there be two Physicians of equall learning and of the same intent in curing the sick that is alike desirous to cure the disease and if these Physicians should out of one and the same Book gather the one that a Fever is cured with wine and the other that wine is as bad as poyson to them that have the Fever how I pray shall we know which of these two to take part withall A man can gather nothing but that the remedy for that disease is obscurely expressed in that Book Consid The sum of all this is that the Scripture is obscure and that which the Author would infer from hence is this therefore it is impossible to be sure of the meaning of it whereby now I perceive the Perplexed Question and Doubtfull case of Conscience comes but to this in plain terms Whether it be possible for a man to be sure of the meaning of Scripture the Author maintains the Negative proves it because the Scripture is obscure and the obscurity of Scripture he proves by this that men differ in the exposition of it Now this I will examine in order and first observe the dodging disposition of this Author and manifest evidence of his corrupt affection and that he comes to this work with an intention not to seek the truth but to circumvent it rather For whereas the force of his Argument to prove that the Scripture is obscure is but this that Divines differ in the interpretation of Scripture yet it served his turn rather to instance in Papists and Calvinists joyning together in the interpretation of Scripture contrary to the Lutherans Might he not as well give instance in Papists and Lutherans holding together in interpretation of Scripture contrary to the Calvinists Might he not as well have instanced in Lutherans and Calvinists joyning together in the interpretation of Scripture contrary to the Papists undoubtedly he might for it is but an indefinite proposition and the matter is clearly contingent Now an indesinite proposition in a contingent matter is confessed in Schools to have no greater force than of a particular proposition As much as to say they differ one from another in the interpretation of some Scriptures Now this may very well be true not onely of Papists differing from Protestants but of Papists differing from Papists as Maldonate from Jansemus and Protestants from Protestants not onely Lutherans from Calvinists but one Lutheran from another and one Calvinist from another in the interpretation of some places of Scripture Nay doth not one Father differ from another after this very manner And do not Modern Divines even Papists as well as Protestants take liberty of dissenting from all the Antients in the interpretation of some places of Scripture Witness Maldonate in the interpretation of that Mat. 5. Blessed are the poor in spirit who takes a way of interpretation different from all the Antients by his own confession And Cardinall Cajetan when he was put upon the studying of Scripture by occasion of his conference with Martin Luther who would hear nothing but Scripture see what a profession he makes in his entrance upon writing Commentaries on the Scriptures Si quando occurrerit novus sensus Textui consonus nec à sacra Scriptura nec ab Ecclesiae Doctrina dissonus quamvis à Torrente Doctorum sacrorum alienum aequos se praebeant censores And when Austin takes notice of the multiplicity of translations of the Scripture he was so far from being offended thereat that he professed there was more profit than damage redounding thereby to the Church and why may it not be so by different interpretations also it being more easie to judge which of them is the right or by refuting them all to find out the true interpretation than at the first dash to find out the true meaning 2. Observe the absurd and malicious carriage of this Author 1. In shaping different Religions according to different interpretations of Scriptures whereas I have shewed that the force of the proposition is onely a particular namely that they differ in the interpretation of some places of Scripture which difference I have shewed may be found and ever hath been found more or less even amongst them that are of the same Religion as amongst none have been more different interpretations of Scripture found than amongst the Antients yet what Christian is found to be so impudent and immodest as to lay to their charge that they differed in Religion and look how many different interpretations of Scripture were found amongst them so many different
THE Scriptures Sufficiency To Determine All Matters of Faith Made good against the PAPIST OR That a Christian may be infallibly certain of his Faith and Religion by the Holy Scriptures By that Great and Famous Light of Gods Church William Twisse D.D. And Prolocutor of the late Assembly of Divines LONDON Printed for Matthew Keynton at the Fountain in S. Pauls Church-yard 1656. SIR I Have read this learned and satisfactory Answer to the Perplexing Question and Doubtfull Case of Conscience in the life time of D. Twisse and if you shall please to give it your Imprimatur I think it may be advantageous in this juncture of time I rest Yours Ja. Cranford May 3. 1652. Imprimatur Edm. Calamy THE APPROBATION OF That Reverend Father of the Church Joseph Hall Bishop of NORWICH In a Letter to his worthily respected friend Mr. W. S. Worthy Sir I Return you many thanks for the favour you have done me in affording me the view of this solid and seasonable piece of Dr. Twisse in full answer to this pretended Questionist who under the colour of a Perplexing Case of Conscience from a Preacher of the Gospell sends forth a foolish kind of challenge to all Protestant Divines Had you not named the Author of the satisfactory Answer and seconded it by anothers attestation I could both have known and avouched him There is a face of a style by which we Scholars know one another no less than our persons by a visible countenance whosoever hath read the witty accute exercitations of this Author upon the writings of Doctor Jackson will easily finde him in this Tractate both for form and matter This sculking and disguised Chalenger could not have met with a meeter Combatant a man so eminent in School-Divinity that the Jesuits have felt and for ought I see shrunk under his strength in their Scientia Media and whom the States of the Netherlands out of the fame of his worth would fain have tempted away with large profers to a Publick Professorship in one of their Universities I onely wish he had met with a more able Adversary For certainly as I intimated to you in my last this Beagle whosoever he be whether out of misprision or craft hunts counter and runs all the while upon a wrong ground vainly supposing that differences in points not fundamentall make a diversity of Religions and weakly conceiving that because there are many false claims to Truth in the world God hath not left us means enough in his revealed Will to distinguish Truth from Error as if because there are store of counterfeit coyns abroad it could not be safe for a man to receive or possible to discern currant money whereas if his wit would have served him he might have considered that all both Agenda and Credenda necessary to salvation which only can difference Religion are clearly laid down in the sacred Oracles of Scripture with which if any refractory soul will unjustly quarrell he may by those helps which God hath left to his Church be either convinced or shamed in the mean while it is no reason that his absurd obstinacy should cast any blemish upon the clear face of truth or be any prejudice to others who are blessed with better apprehensions whose not-forestalled souls out of that judgment of discretion which God hath endowed all wise Christians withall upon due search may by those good means which God hath held forth to us give himself so ful satisfaction in all important Truths as wherein he may securely rest with a resolute defiance of all oppositions Had this Questionist but consulted with learned Bishop Davenant's irrefragable Discourse De judice ac norma fidei he had forborn the blurring of his Paper and spared the labor of this his perplexed and shuffling proposall of his pretend edly-perplexing Question which in very truth is no other than a stale and often exploded Cavill newly furbushed over with a false colour of a tenderly-conscientious irresolution The man will finde himself here over-answer'd and receive too much honour from such an Antagonist in that it may be said of him Aeneae magni dextrâ cadis Now since you are pleased to desire my Opinion of the whole work to speak freely One or two passages I confess to meet with in this learned and weighty Discourse as concerning the name and number of the Apocalypticall Beast 666. which doe not altogether carry my assent That Mysterie must and will lye still close after all the scanning of the sharpest Wits and Judgements But for all the Doctrinall points I cannot but applaud them as worthy of the Authour and satisfactory to the Reader and convictive of the Adversary Farewell from your much devoted J.H.B.N. Higham April 29. 1652. A Perplexing Question OR A doubtfull Case of CONSCIENCE Of a certain Preacher of the GOSPEL OVR Religion is our Faith Faith either saves or condemns justly ought we therefore to be able to understand and prove our Faith But now there ariseth a great doubt to me and other of the simpler sort of Christians Whether it be possible for us to have an infallible certainty of our Faith out of the holy Scriptures and so consequently to rely on and trust to this faith as to an unshaken foundation The reason of our doubting is this Both Papists and Calvinists holding contrary opinions do maintain and prove by the holy Scriptures as they suppose the contrary to that which the Lutherans hold seriously affirming that in the Scriptures the Lutheran Religion is condemned and theirs confirmed Which thing no man will deny to be an evident Argument of the obscurity of the holy Scriptures If there be two Physicians of equall learning and of the same intent in curing the sick that is alike desirous to cure the disease and if these Physicians should out of one and the same Book gather the one that a Fever is cured with wine and the other that wine is as bad as poyson to them that have the Fever how I pray shall we know which of these two to take part withall A man can gather nothing but that the remedy for that disease is obscurely expressed in that Book Some may object The Sects doe not follow the Scriptures onely but they add their traditions the Calvinists add their reason the Anabaptists their dreams I answer They do so in those things which are not cleerly taught in the holy Scriptures but in the controversies between them and Lutherans they proceed not so but by Scriptures they fight against Lutheran Tenents which are confirmed by the Scriptures and indeavour by the help of the Scriptures to sight for and defend their own which the Lutherans by Scriptures doe condemn Nay more there are some viz. the Anabaptists that urge the Scriptures in the very Letter more than the rest The Calvinists use their reason and out of the Scriptures draw Arguments which thing the Lutherans also doe never suffering any of theirs to reason against the Scriptures 2.
the Socinians of these dayes whose opinion was cried down at Paris and openly proclamed hereticall by the sound of a Trumpet 3. Or shall the Rule of interpretation of Scripture be the congruity of it to naturall reason as the Socinians make it This is most shamefull and unreasonable considering 1. That our naturall reason is much corrupt by the sin of Adam The things of God seem foolishness to the naturall man 1 Cor. 2.14 naturally we are all darkness 2. In the state of innocency do we think that Adam by naturall reason was able to find out or justifie the Trinity of Persons in the Unity of the Deitie We say God may be known by light of Nature Quod attinet ad Vnitatem naturae but not known quod attinet at Trinitatem Personarum God hath set the world in mans heart saith Solomon yet can he not finde out the works that he hath wrought from the beginning to the end Eccl. 3. and if he cannot finde out the works of God is he able to find out the nature of God himself we know he is said to dwell in a dark cloud Disc Obj. Some may object The Sects do not follow the Scriptures onely but they add the Papists their Traditions the Calvinists their Reasons the Anabaptists their Dreams I answer They do so in those things which are not cleerly taught in the holy Scriptures but in the controversies between them and Lutherans they proceed not so but by Scriptures they fight against Lutheran Tenents which are confirmed by the Scriptures and indeavour by the help of the Scriptures to sight for and defend their own which the Lutherans by Scriptures doe condemn Nay more there are some viz. the Anabaptists that urge the Scriptures in the very Letter more than the rest The Calvinists use their reason and out of the Scriptures draw Arguments which thing the Lutherans also doe never suffering any of theirs to reason against the Scriptures Consid This Author will have the making of his own bed and shapes his Reader at the first encounter to yeeld acknowledging the uncontradictable nature of his former one onely Argument which yet I have shewed to be both very weak very ridiculous and very untrue But we keep our ground professing to the world that the Scriptures alone being the Word of God are the rule of our faith and no word of man Papists add Traditions which yet they account the Word of God unwritten we abhor to make any thing the rule of our faith but the written Word of God It is falsly said that Calvinists add their Reason they rather suppose Reason than add it the Word of God being given to none but reasonable creatures Neither doe we make this Reason of ours a rule of faith added to Gods Word but it is that light which God hath given us wherewith to search into the meaning of his Word and by studious inquisition and observation to discover it and make it known to others and by good reason out of the Text to convict others of the truth And doth this Authors reason go to bed and sleep when he comes to read and studiously to consider the Word of God If it doth he will prove no better than a drowsie Student and I know no reason but such a one may be in love with dreams as well as Anabaptists 1. In his Answer he carrieth himself most absurdly and ridiculously For 1. Most insipidly he supposeth that the Controversies amongst Protestant Divines are about such things as are clearly taught in Scripture as if they agreed in those things which are not clearly set down in Scripture and differ onely about things which are clearly delivered there 2. He supposeth that Calvinists do not use reason in the controversies between them and the Lutherans but onely in other things which is most untrue and absurd withall for controversies cannot possibly be mannaged without reason both as touching the proof of their own Tenet and touching the disproof of the Tenet oposite And this must needs be the guise of the Lutherans also It is false which he saith of Anabaptists that they urge the very letter of Scriptures more than the rest For both Calvinists and Lutherans insist wholly upon the literall sense of Scripture and more than the Anabaptist in case they as formerly by this Author said did depend in dreams for so doe not Protestants but on Scripture only and that according unto sense literall not at all according to sense mysticall save onely in case the sense mysticall be expounded by some Apostle and thereby made literall 2. But herein this Authors ignorance discovers its self that hee confounds sense literall with the proper sense of the words We acknowledge sense literall to comprehend sense Metaphoricall as well as proper and to stand in contradiction onely to sense mysticall But in case we take that in a metaphoricall sense which our adversaries in any point take in a sense proper if we doe not prove the sense wherein we take it and disprove theirs by convincing Arguments we will allow the liberty to reject our Tenet and follow their own for we desire to make our faith evident to the consciences of all opposites and if they can make their Tenets in like manner evident to us we will renounce our own and imbrace theirs 3. And this Author speaks at random and he knows not what when he would have his Reader believe the Calvinists permit any to reason against the Scriptures for by reason to clear the meaning of Scripture is not I trust to reason against it but for it rather especially considering that by reason of Scripture onely we dispute the meaning of any place Disc Object 2. If it be objected unto them that they wilfully and against their consciences do condemn the Lutheran Tenets and confirm their own they will answer Ans This were a very grievous sin and that men ought not to presume that they would falsifie and corrupt the Letters and Commands of their Lord to his sons and subjects much less that they do maliciously erre and lead themselves and others into the dauger of their salvation and to say the truth it is not likely that so many hundred thousands of men would come to that pitch of malice though one should especially seeing they dare confirm their honest meaning with an Oath wherefore unless they be convicted of maliciously wilfull error we shall seem injuriously to slander them Consid I see no reason why such a censure should be passed upon the Calvinians more than upon the Lutherans more speciously it should be passed by them that are Orthodox upon them that are not though I justifie not this censure whosoever makes it and certainly there is no just cause to pass it upon them who are in the right and charity will forbid us rashly to pass this censure upon them who are in the wrong And as I finde defect of love in them who pass such censures hand over head upon
the extraction of roots and the number 25. found to be the root of 666. so far as it comes to be said in the usuall way of Arithmetick to have a root discovering strange mysteries concerning the delineating of that Beast the body of Antichrist in a wonderfull manner No marvell if these mysteries were hidden from the Prophets themselves who wrote those Prophecies for first the knowledge of them was nothing necessary to their salvation 2. God had appointed a certain time when the light of them should break forth to irradiate his Church with unspeakable consolation when they stood most in need thereof the accomplishment of those Prophecies drawing neer Christ spake in parables to some not to all yet some of his parables were understood by them even against whom they were spoken in particular Those that were not understood by the multitude our Saviour revealed to his Disciples as often as they sought it yea and other mysteries too namely the signs fore-going the destruction of Jerusalem his own coming and the end of the world Mat. 24. It is true the Scriptures contain the mysteries of godliness which are not apprehended according to their condition but by the Regenerate but as for the meaning of the Scripture it is quite of another nature which this Author considers not and is incident to a reprobate yea in such a measure as to make him an able Doctor in the Church and Orthodox throughout which may tend to the edification of others when in the mean time such a one shall fall short of the salvation of his own soul The secrets of the Lord which he reveals to them that fear him is the secret of his Covenant Psal 25. There is a secret also in Faith-Catholike and in all the mysteries of godliness which is peculiar to the Regenerate only and it is to discern the wisdom of God and the power of God in them which have true Faith A reprobate may believe the same things by a naturall faith onely yea believe it and carry themselves like good scholars too while they instruct others therein Still we say that the Scripture is plain and clear enough as touching all things necessary to salvation and all this discourse is plausible onely through distinction and to deny the Scripture to be fairly intelligible to one that is desirous to know the meaning of it is a great disparagement to the Word of God and dishonor to God himself disparaging either his goodness that would not or his wisdom that he knew not how to order it so that by searching the Scriptures they might have eternall life If before the Law men had a light whereby they might finde the truth more clearly than we then the former times were times of greater light and grace than the later but this is contrary both to the generall judgment of the Christian world and to universall experience For as light naturally increaseth more and more untill it be perfect day so it hath been with light spirituall yet the Sun the fountain of light naturall hath sometimes gone backward ten degrees not so the sun of rigteousness men have gone backward I confess in the course of their obedience but God hath gone forward rather than backward in the course of administration of his grace We doe not say there was a meer blindness or blindness at all in Gods children although in present discourse not of mans blindness but of Gods progress in causing the irradiation of his light but this we say that the word of the Prophets was a most sure word to which our fore-fathers did well to take heed as to a light that shineth in a dark place but now a long time day hath dawned and the Gospell is the day-star that ariseth in our hearts 2 Pet. 1.19 For that God who commanded the light to shine out of darkness is he which hath shined in our hearts to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ 2 Cor. 4.6 And in these dayes of grace we all behold as in a mirror the glory of the Lord with open face and are changed into the same Image from glory to glory as by the Spirit of the Lord 2 Cor. 3.18 To say that though all things be not necessary to be known yet nevertheless there may be had a certain and infallible way of interpreting whereby the most and most necessary Controversies may be decided is to represent a shew of Antithesis where there is none But that is little materiall but here is a declination to the contrary extreme hitherto the clearness of Scripture hath been opposed here an infallibility of interpreting is introduced but Medio tutissimus ibis and vertue usually consists in a mediocrity which Horace calls auream Mediocritatem Since the Apostles days the true Church of Christ challengeth to her self no infallible authority of interpreting Scripture 't is enough that in things necessary to salvation the Lord assures us by his Spirit that we are not deceived that is sufficicient for the state of grace and as for infallibility let us be content to have that condition reserved for the state of glory I nothing doubt but by study and care and pains most Controversies may be so clearly decided as shall be sufficient either for the converting of a capable Hearer to the imbracing of it or for the convicting him of obstinacy in withstanding it but I little looked that the beginning of this discourse would have so unsutable an end Mr. Dury as I remember is occupied about some such methode as this I wish heartily it may succeed well but take heed we do not cry down all performances that have gone before us as if they were palpable insufficiencies in comparison to our own new inventions whether in clearing truths controversial or obscure places of Scripture Well we shall rest contented with that measure we are arrived unto untill a greater measure of light arise above the Horizon of our Sphere and whensoever it comes I trust we shall give it that respect which it deserves and right thankfully entertain it whether in the way of illustration which best pleaseth the sense or in the way of demonstration which most justifieth the judgment Disc Nor am I moved with that Objection that it is enough for the Lutherans that they are assured of the truth of Lutheranism though others cannot see and believe it for this is not that which I would have I enquire how a man may be sure not of his own opinion but of the truth Now if I believe and determine that such a thing is true this is my opinion yet is not therefore the truth seeing truth and opinion have nothing in them alike and stedfast perswasion changeth not the essence of the thing whereof a man is perswaded for then should melancholick persons whose opinion is unmoveable work miracles and make all their conceits essentiall The nature of true knowledge is this so be demonstrable not to
they might proceed one step further and say I my self alone think this to be true and therefore it is true but the Spirit of illumination is given onely to satisfie them that have it not to boast of it but to comfort themselves with it rather much less to obtrude it upon others onely light naturall is communicable unto others by rationall discourse light spirituall is not I cannot more communicate that to another than my seeing or hearing or smelling or tasting Disc Lastly If we build our Religion only upon the Scriptures the learned shall have a great prerogative above the unlearned in the matter of Faith and Religion and shall be more ingaged in thankefulness unto God than they and so Religion shall favor and cleave to good wits Also many have their senses exercised in the Scriptures or are more inventive than others therefore if a man could by disputing and reasoning consute some Thesis and as it were take away a mans opinion from him and become conqueror he should also take away his Religion and the other should be constrained either to take up his Conquerors Religion or against his conscience to keep his own Nor will that Answer serve the turn our Divines and Pastors can answer you though I cannot for then should I believe with another mans faith but saith must bee mine not another mans else should salvation also be another mans If Religion be the service of God certainly it is necessary that I should understand that service which I must perform to my Lord. Seeing God will not reckon another mans service for mine and cannot be served by a Substitute it remains that wee conclude Controversies are to be left to learned men and are not so very necessary It may be answered Then also Religion is to be left to learned men for Controversies are our very Religion for saving the consideration of them there is no difference but Papists are Protestants and Protestants are Papists look how much a man knowes of Controversies so much doth he know of his own Religion The state of a mans salvation is such as his Religion and his Faith Now there is but one salvation and but one faith But if Controversies belong to the learned onely wherefore have Lay-men indured so many afflictions distresses nay and death it self for these controversies sake I know indeed that a Calvinist Doctor one Doctor Bergius a Preacher at Breme affirms in his late published Sermons that Controversies are not meerly necessary to salvation that the Scripture is plain and clear about those things which are necessary to salvation and that there was never any contrariety between the Religious themselves At which also the Leipsich Collation between the Lutherans and the Calvinists seems to aim Consid In all professions whether liberall or mechanicall the learned have a prerogative above the unlearned and what inconvenience is there if it be so in Christian Religion also Doth not S. Peter tell us that the unlearned pervert the Scripture to their own destruction 2 Pet. 3. yet this prerogative is in learning onely not in holiness the unlearned may be as holy as the learned and have as great an interest both in sanctifying grace and in saving glory What said Austin of himself and such like Scholars in comparison of his mother Monica and such like holy though simple women Mulierculae istae lacrimis suis caelum nobis praeripiunt when we have done all we can with all our learning these women with their tears will get heaven before us And as for holiness so for faith an unlearned man may have faith as wel as the learned nay that faith which is called fides infusa may be found in a man unlearned when the faith of him that is learned is found to be no better than fides acquisita a faith naturall and they that have true faith by the inspiration of the holy Ghost shall not want gracious wits howsoever that Religion which is by faith naturall be accompanied with better naturall wits yet an idle wit be it never so good will hardly prove learned and be it never so learned if it be without grace such a mans Religion will prove but vain and though he be able to worst another in disputation yet shall he never pull true Religion in any childe of God be he never so weak and unlearned out of socket because our Faith and Religion consists not in wisdom of words but in the power of the Spirit as S. Paul speaks saying My word and my preaching stood not in the inticing speech of Mans wisdom but in plain evidence of the Spirit and Power That your Faith should not bee in the wisdom of Men but in the power of God 1 Cor. 2.4 5. Nay were my Faith only naturall and I had good evidence out of the Scripture for it though that knowledge be no other than such as is annexed to the common profession of Christianity yet the Philosopher tells me that I must not be beaten out of my hold in such a case because I am not able to answer every Sophism or Argument that is brought against it Nay the Philosopher in his Ethicks teacheth me that some are as tenacious of their opinions for which they have but weak reasons as others are of their opinions which they hold confirmed with great strength of Argument so that every way it is an inficete fiction that the most learned must always conquer the Faith and the Religion of the unlearned without flying to any such sculking hole as to say Our Divines and Pastors can answer you though I cannot But I wonder much that any sober Christian upon any pretence should dispute against the building of our Religion onely upon Scripture unless with Papists hee would bring in Traditions or rely on the Church or on the decision of the Pope For if we fly from the Word of God we must rest either upon the word of Man or upon naturall reason A Christian I conceive should think the Scripture sufficient to direct us in the Service of God Our Saviour directs the Jews to the searching of Scripture for the discerning of him And if Controversies be left to learned men yet there is no cause why our Religion should but onely the defence of it controversially maintaining it by variety of Arguments and deductions out of holy Scripture and solving contrary Arguments brought against it in any particular point of Faith but the profession of it surely shall belong to him that sits at Gamaliels feet as well as to Gamaliel himself nor onely to such as sit at his feet but to such also as follow the plow-tail yea and to the weaker sex of women and to children too for even to such belongeth the Kingdom of God And were there no book at all written or Sermon preached in any point of Controversies or difference between us yet Papists should be Papists still and not Protestants and Protestants should be Protestants still and not Papists and