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or_o justify_v a_o dissent_n art_fw-la xxi_o of_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o church_n in_o his_o next_o article_n 76._o art_n 25._o p._n 76._o of_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o church_n he_o grant_v many_o thing_n which_o the_o bishop_n of_o meaux_n have_v assert_v from_o which_o we_o may_v expect_v great_a fruit_n but_o he_o present_o nip_v all_o our_o hope_n in_o the_o very_a bud_n he_o grant_v the_o catholic_a church_n to_o be_v the_o guardian_n of_o the_o holy_a scripture_n 77._o pag._n 76_o 77._o and_o of_o tradition_n and_o that_o it_o be_v from_o her_o authority_n they_o reeeive_v both_o that_o they_o never_o deny_v the_o church_n to_o have_v a_o authority_n not_o only_o in_o matter_n of_o order_n and_o discipline_n 78._o pag._n 78._o but_o even_o of_o faith_n too_o that_o they_o neither_o fear_v the_o entire_a defection_n of_o the_o catholic_a church_n nor_o that_o she_o shall_v fall_v into_o such_o a_o entire_a infidelity_n as_o shall_v argue_v she_o not_o to_o be_v a_o church_n 80._o pag._n 80._o and_o in_o his_o next_o article_n he_o allow_v the_o church_n a_o just_a authority_n in_o matter_n of_o faith_n and_o declare_v as_o a_o doctrine_n of_o his_o church_n that_o they_o allow_v such_o a_o deference_n to_o a_o church_n decision_n as_o to_o make_v they_o their_o direction_n what_o doctrine_n they_o may_v or_o may_v not_o public_o maintain_v and_o teach_v in_o her_o communion_n that_o they_o show_v whatever_o submission_n they_o can_v to_o her_o authority_n without_o violate_v that_o of_o god_n declare_v to_o we_o in_o the_o holy_a scripture_n and_o last_o that_o whatsoever_o deference_n they_o allow_v to_o a_o national_a church_n or_o council_n the_o same_o they_o think_v in_o a_o much_o great_a degree_n due_a to_o a_o general_n in_o which_o none_o shall_v be_v more_o ready_a to_o assist_v nor_o to_o which_o none_o shall_v be_v more_o ready_a to_o submit_v these_o be_v fair_a offer_n to_o establish_v a_o church-authority_n and_o do_v he_o manifest_o destroy_v all_o he_o have_v here_o say_v by_o some_o other_o exception_n we_o may_v have_v hope_v some_o good_a effect_n of_o such_o a_o submission_n he_o tell_v we_o 79._o pag._n 79._o and_o that_o true_o that_o any_o particular_a church_n may_v either_o by_o error_n lose_v or_o by_o other_o mean_n prevaricate_v the_o faith_n even_o in_o necessary_a point_n of_o it_o and_o yet_o notwithstanding_o he_o do_v not_o only_o set_v up_o a_o particular_a church_n to_o examine_v the_o church_n decision_n 78._o pag._n 78._o which_o he_o tell_v we_o after_o all_o may_v err_v but_o even_o every_o individual_a person_n who_o according_a to_o his_o doctrine_n may_v not_o only_o examine_v the_o decision_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n but_o glory_n in_o oppose_v they_o if_o he_o be_v but_o evident_o convince_v that_o his_o belief_n be_v found_v upon_o the_o undoubted_a authority_n of_o god_n holy_a word_n his_o word_n be_v these_o 79._o pag._n 79._o though_o we_o suppose_v the_o scripture_n 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