Selected quad for the lemma: scripture_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
scripture_n	authority_n	divine_a	infallible_a	2,602	5	9.2547	5	false

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A65863	The divinity of Christ and unity of the three that bear record in heaven with the blessed end and effects of Christ's appearance, coming in the flesh, suffering and sacrifice for sinners, confessed and vindicated, by his followers, called Quakers : and the principal matters in controversie, between them, and their present opposers (as Presbyterians, Independants, &c.) considered and resolved, according to the scriptures of truth, and more particularly to remove the aspersions ... cast upon the ... Quakers ... in several books, written by Tho. Vincent, Will. Madox, their railing book, stil'd The foundation, &c, Tho. Danson, his Synopsis, John Owen, his Declaration / which are here examin'd and compared by G.W. ... ; as also, a short review of several passages of Edward Stillingfleet's ... in his discourse of the sufferings of Christ's and sermon preached before the King, wherein he flatly contradicts the said opposers.	Whitehead, George, 1636?-1723.	1669 (1669)	Wing W1925; ESTC R19836	166,703	202

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of_o itself_o etc._n etc._n pag._n 1_o 2._o concern_v which_o i_o query_n first_o whether_o the_o father_n the_o word_n and_o holy_a spirit_n be_v three_o several_a and_o singular_a thing_n that_o subsist_v each_o by_o himself_o each_o one_o from_o another_o yea_o or_o nay_o second_o whether_o a_o man_n be_v a_o person_n be_v a_o competent_a instance_n for_o proof_n of_o his_o maker_n be_v three_o several_a person_n and_o whether_o a_o man_n subsist_v by_o himself_o three_o whether_o christ_n be_v several_a and_o distinct_a by_o himself_o from_o god_n and_o the_o holy_a spirit_n several_a and_o distinct_a from_o both_o if_o yes_o where_o or_o in_o what_o place_n of_o the_o whole_a world_n or_o out_o of_o it_o be_v the_o one_o entire_a and_o sever_v from_o the_o other_o and_o how_o far_o distant_a one_o from_o another_o four_o and_o if_o the_o father_n son_n and_o holy_a ghost_n do_v

and_o his_o own_o notion_n and_o conception_n which_o be_v not_o ground_v on_o scripture_n and_o therefore_o we_o may_v not_o have_v our_o faith_n impose_v upon_o by_o they_o as_o to_o accept_v of_o his_o humane_a conception_n and_o notion_n which_o can_v reach_v the_o nature_n of_o god_n for_o divine_a verity_n and_o how_o say_v t._n d._n that_o infiniteness_n be_v a_o property_n of_o the_o divine_a nature_n agree_v to_o each_o person_n subsist_v in_o that_o nature_n contrary_a to_o his_o worthy_a master_n vincent_n saying_n that_o infiniteness_n be_v not_o ascribe_v unto_o the_o personality_n but_o such_o like_a confusion_n and_o conrradiction_n we_o have_v enough_o of_o from_o they_o and_o indeed_o such_o nonsensical_a stuff_n as_o be_v in_o both_o their_o pamphlet_n i_o have_v seldom_o meet_v withal_o as_o one_o while_n t._n d._n say_v we_o do_v not_o affirm_v the_o person_n in_o the_o godhead_n to_o be_v finite_a but_o infinite_a another_o while_n t._n v._o say_v infiniteness_n be_v not_o ascribe_v to_o they_o 14._o another_o while_n t._n d._n say_v pag._n 14._o that_o they_o be_v one_o among_o themselves_o only_o in_o respect_n of_o that_o wherein_o they_o agree_v not_o simple_o what_o kind_n of_o oneness_n or_o agreement_n do_v he_o reckon_v be_v in_o the_o deity_n if_o it_o be_v not_o simple_o be_v there_o ever_o such_o darkness_n and_o confusion_n utter_v and_o what_o blind_a sophistry_n and_o silly_a logic_n and_o babble_n do_v these_o man_n use_v and_o put_v upon_o the_o immortal_a god_n who_o with_o all_o their_o invention_n airy_a notion_n and_o vain_a conception_n they_o can_v never_o reach_v the_o knowledge_n of_o neither_o will_n nor_o can_v their_o heathenish_a philosophy_n term_n of_o aristotle_n nor_o apostate_n christian_n and_o papist_n demonstrate_v or_o discover_v the_o knowledge_n of_o either_o father_n 16._o word_n or_o spirit_n to_o any_o people_n that_o want_v the_o knowledge_n thereof_o but_o make_v they_o more_o dark_a and_o ignorant_a 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substance_n of_o thing_n hope_v for_o it_o be_v not_o person_n of_o thing_n hope_v for_o the_o same_o word_n that_o be_v for_o substance_n in_o that_o be_v hebr._n chap._n 2._o verse_n 3._o where_o it_o be_v speak_v of_o the_o son_n of_o god_n who_o be_v the_o brightness_n of_o his_o glory_n and_o the_o express_a image_n of_o his_o substance_n beside_o what_o ever_o author_n or_o father_n so_o call_v do_v put_v name_n distinction_n and_o term_n upon_o the_o godhead_n which_o be_v either_o improper_a or_o unscriptural_a we_o must_v believe_v the_o scripture_n rather_o than_o they_o and_o do_v they_o count_v all_o justin_n martyr_n write_v one_o hundred_o &_o fifty_o year_n after_o christ_n to_o be_v of_o equal_a authority_n with_o the_o scripture_n of_o christ_n and_o the_o apostle_n or_o may_v not_o probable_o justin_n bring_v in_o some_o of_o his_o philosophy_n which_o be_v not_o scripture_n and_o we_o do_v not_o read_v in_o the_o scripture_n either_o of_o three_o distinct_a 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a_o plenary_a satisfaction_n make_v as_o in_o the_o sense_n and_o notion_n some_o of_o they_o have_v etc._n etc._n and_o though_o he_o know_v some_o worthy_a person_n do_v deny_v w._n p_n affirmative_a yet_o he_o can_v join_v with_o they_o therein_o he_o say_v also_o god_n be_v free_a in_o his_o determination_n what_o attribute_v he_o will_v manifest_v and_o in_o what_o degree_n and_o manner_n and_o that_o between_o justice_z and_o mercy_n and_o their_o effect_n and_o all_o of_o his_o mere_a will_n intervene_v etc._n etc._n by_o all_o which_o in_o a_o great_a measure_n he_o have_v confess_v to_o what_o w._n p._n have_v write_v in_o that_o case_n though_o in_o contradiction_n to_o his_o brother_n vincent_n as_o be_v evident_a but_o where_o he_o speak_v of_o vindictive_a justice_n that_o god_n may_v only_o have_v manifest_v when_o man_n fall_v as_o he_o do_v upon_o the_o reprobate_a angel_n or_o devil_n etc._n etc._n now_o i_o query_n then_o be_v this_o vindictive_a justice_n that_o 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be_v the_o belove_a of_o the_o father_n even_o his_o only_o beget_v the_o son_n of_o his_o love_n in_o who_o his_o soul_n delight_v and_o be_v always_o well_o please_v both_o in_o his_o work_n and_o suffering_n both_o in_o his_o life_n and_o death_n for_o sinner_n but_o angry_a with_o the_o wicked_a such_o as_o persecute_v he_o and_o crucify_v he_o afresh_o unto_o themselves_o as_o he_o be_v also_o crucify_v in_o spiritual_a sodom_n and_o egypt_n such_o adversary_n god_n will_v be_v avenge_v of_o but_o his_o pleasure_n shall_v prosper_v in_o the_o hand_n of_o his_o anoint_v seed_n christ_n but_o these_o thing_n t._n d._n his_o weak_a judgement_n as_o he_o confess_v it_o to_o be_v pag._n 18._o can_v reach_v and_o indeed_o in_o much_o of_o his_o discourse_n about_o this_o matter_n he_o have_v talk_v more_o like_o a_o lawyer_n then_o a_o divine_a and_o have_v bring_v several_a similitude_n which_o will_v not_o hold_v in_o matter_n of_o such_o high_a concernment_n but_o i_o shall_v not_o need_n much_o to_o take_v notice_n of_o his_o dark_a kind_n of_o reason_v in_o this_o particular_a which_o proceed_v but_o from_o his_o weak_a judgemnt_n and_o private_a conception_n since_o the_o matter_n be_v answer_v elsewhere_o and_o the_o extent_n of_o he_o and_o their_o principle_n therein_o be_v further_o manifest_v and_o handle_v about_o his_o and_o their_o doctrine_n of_o impute_v righteousness_n and_o his_o argument_n for_o sin_n and_o imperfection_n in_o all_o term_n of_o life_n yet_o a_o little_a to_o some_o particular_n i_o may_v observe_v by_o the_o way_n of_o this_o point_n after_o he_o say_v he_o shall_v give_v we_o his_o sense_n confess_v that_o satisfaction_n be_v not_o a_o scripture_n phrase_n pag._n 19_o however_o we_o will_v choose_v scripture_n phrase_n rather_o then_o t._n d_n weak_a judgement_n and_o conception_n therein_o have_v

the_o word_n and_o the_o apostle_n call_v it_o the_o word_n of_o faith_n which_o be_v nigh_o they_o in_o their_o mouth_n and_o in_o their_o heart_n but_o say_v t._n d._n it_o be_v not_o the_o light_n within_o but_o the_o scripture_n as_o if_o he_o shall_v say_v the_o scripture_n of_o the_o old_a and_o new_a testament_n be_v in_o their_o mouth_n and_o heart_n but_o this_o word_n of_o which_o they_o give_v testimony_n be_v in_o the_o heart_n of_o all_o the_o holy_a man_n of_o god_n that_o give_v forth_o the_o scripture_n before_o they_o write_v they_o and_o it_o be_v a_o lamp_n to_o david_n foot_n and_o a_o light_n to_o his_o path_n and_o he_o hide_v it_o in_o his_o heart_n that_o he_o may_v not_o sin_v etc._n etc._n psal._n 119.11_o &_o verse_n 115._o and_o the_o word_n be_v for_o ever_o settle_v in_o heaven_n verse_n 89._o this_o be_v that_o which_o quicken_v sanctify_v and_o save_v the_o righteous_a in_o and_o through_o all_o generation_n and_o of_o this_o the_o scripture_n or_o 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