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duty_n so_o to_o do_v law_n make_v by_o the_o church_n of_o thing_n indifferent_a as_o mr._n beza_n tell_v you_o a_o little_a before_o do_v so_o far_o bind_v the_o conscience_n 9_o beza_n epist_n 24._o ad_fw-la 5._o 6._o 7._o &_o 8._o num._n 9_o that_o no_o man_n witting_o and_o willing_o and_o with_o a_o purpose_n of_o resist_v take_v heed_n mr._n treatiser_n this_o clause_n conclude_v not_o many_o of_o your_o brotherhood_n may_v without_o sin_n either_o do_v those_o thing_n which_o be_v so_o forbid_v or_o omit_v those_o thing_n which_o be_v so_o command_v 31_o calv._n jnsi_fw-fr lib._n â_o c._n 10_o par_fw-fr 6._o 31_o christiani_n populi_fw-la of_o ficium_fw-la est_fw-la say_v mr._n calvin_n quae_fw-la secundum_fw-la hunc_fw-la canonem_fw-la in_fw-la quo_fw-la charitas_fw-la moderatrix_fw-la est_fw-la fuerint_fw-la instituta_fw-la etc._n etc._n it_o be_v the_o duty_n of_o christian_a people_n to_o observe_v and_o keep_v those_o law_n that_o shall_v be_v make_v according_a to_o this_o rule_n mean_v where_o charity_n be_v the_o moderatrix_n as_o he_o say_v before_o with_o a_o free_a conscience_n indeed_o and_o no_o superstition_n but_o with_o a_o godly_a and_o ready_a propension_n to_o obedience_n neither_o must_v they_o have_v they_o in_o contempt_n not_o by_o careless_a negligence_n omit_v they_o much_o less_o through_o pride_n and_o stubbornness_n open_o violate_v and_o resist_v they_o where_o by_o the_o way_n let_v it_o trouble_v no_o man_n that_o mr._n beza_n say_v conscientias_fw-la ligant_fw-la mr._n calvin_n say_v libera_fw-la quidem_fw-la conscientia_fw-la for_o mr._n beza_n in_o his_o bind_n of_o the_o conscience_n have_v respect_n unto_o the_o obedience_n that_o be_v due_a unto_o the_o authority_n mr_n caluin_n in_o his_o freedom_n of_o the_o conscience_n have_v reference_n to_o that_o estimation_n we_o shall_v have_v of_o the_o thing_n not_o to_o think_v otherwise_o of_o they_o then_o of_o thing_n indifferent_a though_o command_v by_o authority_n to_o which_o purpose_n mr._n bucer_n also_o speak_v 454._o bucer_n in_o script_n angl._n pag._n 454._o have_v etsi_fw-la seruare_fw-la &_o omittere_fw-la etiam_fw-la extra_fw-la scandalum_fw-la licet_fw-la tamen_fw-la si_fw-la ex_fw-la proternia_n aut_fw-la petulantia_fw-la quis_fw-la ordinem_fw-la publica_fw-la autoritate_fw-la constitutum_fw-la contemnat_fw-la &_o turbet_fw-la non_fw-la leviter_fw-la peccat_fw-la these_o ceremony_n though_o it_o be_v lawful_a to_o observe_v or_o omit_v where_o no_o scandal_n be_v offer_v yet_o if_o any_o man_n upon_o forwardness_n or_o wantonness_n shall_v contemn_v or_o disquiet_v the_o order_n that_o be_v establish_v by_o public_a authority_n he_o sin_v greivous_o and_o let_v this_o suffice_v for_o answer_v to_o your_o example_n of_o the_o brazen_a serpent_n and_o second_o point_n of_o difference_n your_o three_o point_n of_o difference_n i_o take_v to_o be_v the_o bread_n in_o the_o supper_n be_v warrant_v in_o the_o scripture_n the_o cross_n in_o 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